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>> WE'RE GOOD? TIME IS 05:30 AND I'M GOING TO CALL

[I. CALL TO ORDER]

THE WORKSHOP OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT INTO SESSION.

FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS ESTABLISH A QUORUM TOMORROW.

RIGHT. WE HAVE TRUSTEE LEE WALKER, TRUSTEE ANTHONY HILL, TRUSTEE BENTLEY TRUSTEE, MINI TRUSTEE, RONA RIVAL, AND MYSELF, DAVID AVIANIS, SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

WE DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY SHOW UP OR SIGN UP FOR OPEN FORUM TONIGHT, SO THAT WILL TAKE US RIGHT INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO

[IV. CLOSED SESSION]

TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551 SPOT 071, PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH WORD ATTORNEYS TIME IS 5:30.

TIME IS 6:26 AND I WILL CALL US BACK INTO OPEN SESSION.

[V. RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION]

THERE WAS NO ACTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE FROM THOSE DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT, AND SO THAT WILL LEAD US RIGHT INTO OUR ACTION ITEMS WHICH IS

[VII.A. Discuss and consider approval of Reeder Concrete, Inc. for the civil work and concrete pads for ten elementary playgrounds]

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF READER CONCRETE READING MR. GRANT.

>> YES, I KNOW THAT THE BOARD TYPICALLY DOESN'T LIKE TO TAKE ACTION AT WORKSHOPS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE TIME SENSITIVITY RELATED TO THESE BOND PROJECTS, WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MEETINGS WHEN WE HAD THEM.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, MR. GRANT HAS BEEN HELPING US WITH OUR BOND WORK.

HE HAS A POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM FOR YOU TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, MR. GRANT.

>> THANK YOU, DR. ALLAN. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT CAVIANIS BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

TONIGHT ON JANUARY 22, WE BROUGHT TO YOU THE ACTUAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND APPROVE THAT YOU APPROVED.

THAT IS IN THE WORKS. AS I MENTIONED, THERE WAS A SECOND COMPONENT TO THIS, IT'S ACTUALLY THE CIVIL WORK.

OUR EXISTING PLAYGROUNDS WILL REQUIRE REMOVAL, THE GRADING OF THE EXISTING SITES, AND IF THE SITE CHANGES, THEN THAT WILL REQUIRE GRADING AS WELL.

THEN THESE PLAYGROUNDS, AS OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE HAVE, WILL SIT ON CONCRETE PADS WITH THAT RUBBERIZED MATERIAL THAT I SHOWED YOU.

WE HAD BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH CORRIGAN AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, GLENN ENGINEERING, TO DESIGN THESE PLAYGROUNDS, AND WE WORKED WITH THE COMPANIES GROUND COMPANY LEAD PARK AND PLAY AND READER CONCRETE, AND COMING UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION AS WELL AS THE BEST PRICE WE POSSIBLY COULD FOR THIS SOLUTION.

WITH THAT CONCRETE HAS AGREED TO DO, IT WILL INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING PLAYGROUNDS.

NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT ORDER.

IN SOME CASES, WE WILL BUILD THE NEW PLAYGROUND, LEAVE THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND FOR THE CAMPUS TO UTILIZE UNTIL THE NEW ONE IS COMPLETE AND THEN DEMO APP.

IT WILL INCLUDE THE GRADING, THE POURING OF THE CONCRETE PADS.

THE ADA SIDEWALKS THAT LEAD TO THE PLAYGROUNDS.

THEN FINALLY THIS CIVIL BID WILL INCLUDE RESIDING AROUND THE NEW PLAYGROUNDS AS WELL AS SIDING OVER THE SITES OF THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT WERE REMOVED.

THE HOPE IS IS TO START THIS IN MARCH.

IF EVERYTHING WORKS AS WE PLAN AND HOPE AND THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT COMES IN AND WEATHER COOPERATES, WE COULD BE ABLE TO START BY MID TO LATE MARCH, ACTUALLY INSTALLING THE ACTUAL PLAYGROUND AT THE FIRST COUPLE OF SITES.

THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO TRY AND HAVE ALL BUT VALLEY RANCH COMPLETED BY THIS COMING FALL OF 2024.

WITH VALLEY RANCH BEING COMPLETED THE SUMMER OF 2025, ONCE THEIR CONSTRUCTION IS NEARING AN END.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE MORNING COMMUNITY, IT IS 10 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

THE ONLY ONE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS CANYON RANCH BECAUSE IT IS SO NEW.

>> CORRECT. THIS DOES INCLUDE LEE AS WELL WHICH IS COMING UP ON 10 YEARS OLD.

WITH THAT, THE FULL BID, INCLUDING EVERYTHING THAT DOES INCLUDE THE PAYMENT AND PERFORMANCE BOND AS WELL, IS 1,535,269 THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER FOR

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APPROVAL TONIGHT WITH READ CONCRETE TO DO THE CIVIL AND CONCRETE WORK FOR OUR PLAYGROUNDS.

>> MR. GRANT, WHAT WAS THE BID SUBMISSION PROCESS LIKE TO GET THIS BID FROM READER IRVING?

>> ACTUALLY IRVING AND ARLINGTON ISD.

REPLACED MOST OF THEIR ELEMENTARY PLAYGROUNDS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE IRVING ISD'S BID AND PRICING FOR US.

ESSENTIALLY, WE ARE GETTING THE SAME PRICE NOW.

CONCRETE VARIES, OBVIOUSLY.

IT WILL GO UP, IT WILL GO DOWN.

BUT WE WERE ABLE TO ENJOY THE SAME PRICE STRUCTURE THROUGH ONE OF OUR LOCAL COOPERATIVES CALLED THE EDUCATIONAL PURCHASING COOPERATIVE OF NORTH TEXAS.

WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE ACTUALLY UTILIZING THE THE CONTRACT BETWEEN READER CONCRETE AND IRVING ISD TO IN ORDER TO SATISFY THE PURCHASING LAW OR TEXT EDUCATION CODE 44.031.

>> THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.

>> CORRECT.

>> JUST TO CLARIFICATION WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU, THE GOAL IS WHERE POSSIBLE.

I KNOW NOT EVERY CAMPUS HAS THE SPACE, BUT LEAVE THE EXISTING IN PLACE SO THEY CAN BE UTILIZED WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY DOING THIS WORK.

>> CORRECT FOR THE ONES THAT THEY COMPLETE BEFORE THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

SINCE MOST OF THE CAMPUSES HAVE TWO SEPARATE PLAYGROUNDS, IT MAY BE REMOVING ONE FOR THE NEW PLAYGROUND WILL GO, BUT LEAVING THE OTHER ONE FOR THE STUDENTS TO UTILIZE UNTIL THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETE.

THEN AT THAT TIME, READER CONCRETE WOULD DEMO OUT THE SECOND PLAYGROUND.

ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GRANT? I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION. GOT IT.

>> I BELIEVE THAT THE COPPELL BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED THE PROPOSAL FOR READER CONCRETE FOR THE CIVIL AND CONCRETE WORK FOR THE 10 NEW PLAYGROUNDS AT A TOTAL COST OF $1,535,269.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE ANTHONY HILL, SECONDED BY TRUSTEE MINI SETH TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL FROM READER CONCRETING FOR THE CIVIL AND CONCRETE WORK FOR 10 NEW PLAYGROUNDS AT PLAYGROUNDS AT A TOTAL COST OF, $535,269 SORRY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT MOTION PASSES. 7, 0.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. GRANT.

>> THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR ACTION ITEMS FOR TONIGHT, SO WE'LL JUST MOVE BACK DOWN TO OUR SPOT ON THE FLOOR FOR THE REMAINDER.

>> WE HAVE TWO BIG ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

THE CONTINUING WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING ALREADY WITH OUR 24-25, 25-26 BUDGET PLANNING.

WE HAVE OUR CFO HERE TO HELP LEAD THAT.

BUT ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM ARE HERE AS WELL TO HELP SUPPORT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BUDGET CHALLENGES THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH AS A TEAM.

WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING THAT OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

IN FACT, I KNOW OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS WORKING ON A SPECIFIC COMMUNICATION PLAN SO THAT AGAIN, OUR COMMUNITY IS INFORMED AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO PROVIDE INPUT.

THEN WE HAVE ONE OF OUR GOALS UPDATES, WHICH DEALS WITH STUDENT OUTCOMES AND HOW OUR STUDENTS ARE DOING RELATED TO OUR CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION.

THAT'S WITH DR. ANGIE BROOKS.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. [INAUDIBLE] FOR OUR FIRST ITEM.

[VIII.A. 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 Budget Planning - Diana Sircar (Chief Financial Officer) (SPPG4) (FOS)]

>> THANK YOU. THIS DISCUSSION ALIGNS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS PRIORITY GOAL FOR AND THE BEST PILLAR OF FISCAL AND OPERATIONAL SYSTEMS. THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS REALLY TO REVIEW THE SITUATION THAT THE DISTRICT IS FACING REGARDING STATE FUNDING, ENROLLMENT, THE BUDGET, STAFFING, AND FACILITIES.

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WHILE WE HAVE PRESENTED A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE PAST, THIS WILL GIVE THE BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS AND THE GOAL IS TO GET THE BOARD'S DIRECTION AND THOUGHTS ON THEM.

WHAT ARE THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES MOVING FORWARD? WHAT ARE THE DISTRICT STRATEGIES THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO HOLD TIGHT TO? WHAT'S THE BOARD'S COMFORT LEVEL WITH A POTENTIAL DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE? JUST TO RECAP THE RESULTS OF THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THERE WAS VERY LITTLE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO RESPOND TO THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN INFLATION, TEACHER AND STAFFING CHALLENGES, AND THE INCREASING COSTS OF EDUCATION.

BACK IN 2019, THE DISTRICT LOST THE LAG FUNDING BY SWITCHING TO FUNDING BASED ON CURRENT VALUES VERSUS PRIOR YEAR VALUES.

THE LAST INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT WAS THEN IN 2019.

THE BASIC ALLOTMENT WENT FROM 5,140-6,160 AT THAT TIME, SO IT WAS AN INCREASE OF 1,020.

INFLATION SINCE 2019 WOULD REQUIRE ANYWHERE $1,000-1,200 INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT TO OFFSET THE IMPACT OF INFLATION.

THE LEGISLATURE ALSO MANDATED SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS, SPECIFICALLY SPENDING FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY.

WHILE THEY PROVIDED SOME FUNDING, THE FUNDING WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE COSTS OF THOSE MANDATES.

THERE IS ALSO REQUIRED SPENDING FOR SPECIAL PROGRAMS THAT HAS RISEN SIGNIFICANTLY.

THE LEGISLATURE THAT TEA HAD A SPECIFIC COMMISSION ON SPECIAL EDUCATION FUNDING AND A SPECIFIC COMMITTEE ON TEACHER VACANCIES.

BOTH GROUPS CAME OUT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INCREASED FUNDING AND NONE OF THAT CAME OUT OF THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE DISTRICT IS FACING PROJECTED DECLINING ENROLLMENT.

REALLY, THE LEGISLATURE FOCUSED ON CUTTING PROPERTY TAXES.

THAT HAPPENED, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, BUT IT DOES NOT INCREASE SCHOOL FUNDING.

WHILE WE HEAR IN THE NEWS THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO SCHOOLS, THE CUTTING OF PROPERTY TAXES IS INCREASING THE STATE'S PORTION OF THE FUNDING OF SCHOOLS, BUT IT'S NOT GIVING SCHOOL DISTRICTS ANY MORE FUNDING TO SPEND.

SCHOOL SAFETY WAS ACCOMPLISHED AND INCREASING FUNDING FORM CISD BY ABOUT 243,000.

BUT THE MANDATED SPENDING FOR ANY SAFETY MEASURES, SPECIFICALLY SRO'S OR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS OR SCHOOL GUARDIANS, 243,000 WILL NOT COVER THE COST OF THAT.

THEN SCHOOL FUNDING WAS TIED TO SCHOOL CHOICE, AND NEITHER OF THOSE PASSED.

NO INCREASE TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, NO INCREASE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION FUNDING, NO INCREASE IN COMPENSATION FOR TEACHERS, DESPITE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THOSE COMMITTEES.

THERE WAS $4 BILLION PUT IN THE STATE BUDGET FOR SCHOOLS, BUT THERE WAS NO ENABLING LEGISLATION TO ALLOW US TO SPEND THAT.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES.

>> OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY, THE 243,000 THAT WE GOT, ABOUT WHAT PERCENT OF OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY COSTS OR THE NEW MANDATES, WHAT PERCENT DO WE THINK THAT WOULD EVEN COVER OF COURSE TO SOME CONTEXT?

>> I BELIEVE THAT WILL COVER ABOUT 10%.

>> OKAY. THANKS.

>> WHEN YOU SAY JUST CLARIFICATION OF BY REDUCING THE PROPERTY TAX, IT INCREASES THE STATE'S CONTRIBUTION.

THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE MORE, IT'S JUST THE NEW NUMBER PERCENTAGE THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING THAT COMES OUT AS MORE.

BUT THERE IS REALLY NO NEW FUNDING.

>> SCHOOL FUNDING IS THE SAME, IT'S JUST THAT LOCAL TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING LESS AND THE STATE IS PAYING MORE OF THAT SAME SCHOOL FUNDING NUMBER.

>> IN THE OVERALL PICTURE LOOKS LIKE THEIR PERCENTAGE CONTRIBUTION IS MORE THAN BEFORE, BUT THERE'S NO NEW FUNDING COMING TO US.

>> RIGHT.

>> THEN BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, KIND OF TIES INTO THIS, IN YOUR PREVIOUS SLIDE, OUR BASIC ALLOTMENT IS THE 6,000 AND SOME ODD AND I KNOW TA JUST CAME OUT WITH THEIR LITTLE REPORT SHOWING THEY'RE FUNDING SCHOOLS AT 14,000 AND SOME CHANGE PER STUDENT.

CAN YOU JUST SPEAK ON THAT DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WHAT WE ACTUALLY GIVE OUR GENERAL COST IS A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF OF THAT.

>> THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS 6,160 PER ADA.

AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE IS NOT AN ENROLLMENT BASED NUMBER.

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IT IS ENROLLMENT TIMES HOW OFTEN STUDENTS COME TO SCHOOL.

IF IT'S 96% OF THAT NUMBER, THAT'S THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.

THEN THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THINGS SUCH AS SPECIAL EDUCATION, CAREER IN TECH, BILINGUAL SERVICES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND THAT'S BASED UPON CHARACTERISTICS OF STUDENTS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THOSE PROGRAMS OR HAVE THAT NEED.

THE DISTRICT RECEIVES A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA FUNDING FOR THAT.

WE ARE RECEIVING MORE THAN 6,160 PER STUDENT WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT IN TOTAL.

THE DISTRICT RECEIVES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ABOUT 88 AND $109,000 PER STUDENT.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS STUDENT FUNDING.

BASED ON THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE HAVE TODAY IN OUR DISTRICT.

THE 14,000 PERHAPS ALSO INCLUDES THINGS THAT COPPELL ISD DOESN'T PARTICIPATE IN.

FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY NEW INSTRUCTIONAL FACILITIES ALLOTMENT IS SOMETHING THAT HELPS DISTRICTS THAT BUILD A BRAND NEW SCHOOL, HELPS THEM TRANSITION BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS.

I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN THAT NUMBER 2.

>> THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION. I KNOW IT'S AN AVERAGE, BUT WHEN IT'S PUSHED OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, PEOPLE THINK, WELL, YOU'RE GETTING THIS MUCH AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. THANK YOU.

>> THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE FUNDING THAT THOSE WHITE DIAMONDS THAT I HAVE THAT ARROW POINTING TO, THAT JUST BASICALLY SHOWS WHAT FUNDING LOOKS LIKE IN CONSTANT DOLLARS.

WHEN YOU TAKE INFLATION AND LAY IT ON TOP OF THE FUNDING THAT IS COMING TO SCHOOLS, YOU CAN SEE THAT FUNDING HAS DECREASED SINCE 2020 AFTER THE LAST INCREASE TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT AND DUE TO SIGNIFICANT INFLATION.

IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 1,000-$1,200 TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

AT THE IMPACT TO COPPELL ISD FUNDING IS THE DISTRICT DID RECEIVE AN INCREASE IN THE GOLDEN PENNY YIELD, ALL DISTRICTS.

THAT WAS IN EXISTING LAW.

THAT WAS NOT IN THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT WAS IN EXISTING LAW, AND SO WE WILL ENJOY SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, ABOUT 3.6 MILLION DOLLAR IN REVENUE.

THAT IS IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET, IN OUR '23/'24 BUDGET.

THE SAFETY ALLOTMENT, THE DISTRICT DID GET ABOUT 243,000 IN ADDITIONAL SAFETY FUNDS.

BUT AGAIN, PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION HAS HELPED OUR PUBLIC, BUT IT HASN'T HELPED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEN WHAT ALSO HAS BEEN RESTORED TO CISD IS THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS AND TECHNOLOGY ALLOTMENT FOR ABOUT $1.2 MILLION PER YEAR.

THE DISTRICT HAD ALWAYS RECEIVED THAT, BUT WHEN ESSER FUNDS BECAME AVAILABLE, THE STATE CHOSE TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT AND TAKE THE MAJORITY OF THAT AWAY.

SO THAT HAS BEEN RESTORED THROUGH THE 88TH LEGISLATURE.

>> YOU'LL SOMETIMES SEE THOSE FIGURES DISPLAYED, MAYBE TO WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS TO, ABOUT HOW THE MONEY WAS AWARDED TO PUBLIC EDUCATION.

BUT IT REALLY, AS DIANA SAID, THAT WAS MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY EARMARKED FOR EDUCATION PREVIOUSLY.

>> ALSO, SOME THINGS THAT HELPED, LET'S SAY, RETIRED TEACHERS WITH HEALTHCARE COSTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND SO THAT IS CONSIDERED SCHOOL MONEY, BUT IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE ACTUAL SCHOOL ITSELF.

THESE ARE THE BOARD BUDGET PRIORITIES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED LAST YEAR.

REMAINING A LEADER IN SALARY AND BENEFITS, SUPPORTING EDUCATORS, EVALUATING PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS, OPEN ENROLLMENT EXPANSION, AND USING FUND BALANCE.

>> I JUST WANTED TO PAUSE ON THAT FIRST SECOND TO AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE STILL THE PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD.

>> WE DID A GREAT JOB. [LAUGHTER]

>> AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE ARE GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF BUDGET QUESTIONS THAT ARE POSED THAT THE DISTRICT IS WORKING ON ANSWERING AT THIS TIME.

LET'S LOOK FIRST AT ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS.

I KNOW YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER.

ENROLLMENT IS PROJECTED TO BE 13,000-13,300 STUDENTS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

PRETTY STABLE WITH WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE'RE AT ABOUT 13 FOR TODAY.

>> I KNOW THE BOARD LIKES FOR THE DEMOGRAPHER TO COME BACK LATER IN THE SPRING, AND WE HAVE SECURED A DATE OF APRIL THE 8TH AT THAT WORKSHOP.

WE'LL HAVE BOB TEMPLETON FROM ZONDA JOIN US THAT NIGHT TOO.

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>> ON THAT ONE, JUST A LITTLE CLARIFYING THINGS BECAUSE DURING THIS 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT FUNDING GOING TO ENROLLMENT NUMBERS VERSUS AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.

BUT IN OUR ASSESSMENT, THAT IS NOT BENEFICIAL TO COPPELL ISD IF THAT LEGISLATION WOULD MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

>> NOT REALLY. IT WOULD BENEFIT THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHO HAD MUCH LOWER ATTENDANCE PERCENTAGE THAN COPPELL.

COPPELL TRADITIONALLY HAD, HAD VERY HIGH ATTENDANCE RATES AROUND 96-97%.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

OUR ATTENDANCE PERCENTAGE HAS GONE UP THIS YEAR, WHICH IS GREAT.

WE'VE HAD A BIG MARKETING CAMPAIGN ABOUT THAT.

>> PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAD WONDERED WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT THEM SUPPORTING THAT, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL TO US. THANK YOU.

>> BUT TO DIANA'S POINT THAT ANGELA AND HER TEAM HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND PTO PRESIDENTS AND OTHER GROUPS TO HELP MESSAGE OUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ATTENDANCE.

KIDS IN SCHOOL, THAT'S HOW YOU LEARN BEST.

THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE FUNDING COMPONENT HAS BEEN A BIG PUSH THIS YEAR.

>> IF THE LEGISLATURE CHOSE TO FUND US AT THE SAME BASIC ALLOTMENT AND ON AN ENROLLMENT BASIS, YES, THE DISTRICT WOULD RECEIVE THAT SMALL PERCENT, BUT THERE WOULD BE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WOULD RECEIVE A MUCH LARGER PERCENT OF FUNDING.

>> SO IT WOULDN'T HURT US.

IT WOULD HELP US.

>> THIS WOULDN'T HELP A WHOLE TIME.

>> IT JUST WOULDN'T HELP A WHOLE LOT.

YEAH. THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST BY CAMPUS, AND ELEMENTARY ENROLLMENT IS PROJECTED TO DECREASE BY 484 STUDENTS BY SCHOOL YEAR '29.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR ELEMENTARY.

MIDDLE SCHOOL IS PROJECTED TO DECREASE BY 239 STUDENTS BY THE SAME YEAR.

THE LARGEST DECLINE OBVIOUSLY COMING IN SCHOOL YEAR '29.

THAT'S WHEN THOSE LOWER ELEMENTARY NUMBERS WILL START HITTING THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THEN OVERALL PROJECTED DISTRICT ENROLLMENT IS PROJECTED TO DECLINE FOR EACH YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, GETTING DOWN TO RIGHT AROUND THAT 13,000 STUDENTS.

WHAT THAT MEANS IN DOLLARS IS, IF ELEMENTARY ENROLLMENT IS DECLINING BY 100 TO 150 STUDENTS FOR THREE YEARS, REACHING 484 STUDENTS IN FIVE YEARS, THAT'S ABOUT $3.4 MILLION REDUCTION IN STATE FUNDING.

MIDDLE SCHOOL ENROLLMENT LOSING 239 STUDENTS IS ABOUT 1.7 MILLION REDUCTION IN STATE FUNDING.

THE HIGH SCHOOL IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT, WHICH WOULD GIVE US 2.3 MILLION.

IT'S A NET LOSS OF 2.8 MILLION BY THE FIFTH YEAR.

>> JUST AGAIN, A REMINDER TO THE BOARDING COMMUNITY, COMMUNICATIONS HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS ON VARIOUS MARKETING CAMPAIGNS TO HELP BRING IN FAMILIES, FAMILIES AS THEY'RE MAKING CHOICES, WE WANT THEM TO CHOOSE COPPELL ISD.

REALLY WORKING HARD TO SHOWCASE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADDED THAT?

>> WE HAVE A SLIDE. I'M COMING UP AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ALL ABOUT IT.

WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET PROJECTION.

JUST AS A COPY HERE, THESE ARE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET ESTIMATES TEA HAS NOT COMPLETED IMPLEMENTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND SOME OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH PROPERTY TAX REDUCTIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS AND THE TAX OFFICE WERE ASKED TO DO WAS TO CALCULATE ALL OF THESE TAXES BASED UPON $100,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WHEN THAT HADN'T EVEN GONE TO THE VOTERS YET.

THAT WENT TO THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER.

THERE HAS ALSO BEEN ADDITIONAL COMPRESSION OF TAXES FOR THOSE TAXPAYERS THAT HAD THEIR TAXES FROZEN, BUT HAVEN'T ENJOYED THE SAME REDUCTION IN TAXES THAT THE REST OF US HAVE SINCE 2019.

THERE'S BEEN A DELAY IN THE CALCULATION OF OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

THEY WERE JUST RELEASED BY THE COMPTROLLER, BUT THOSE PROPERTY VALUES THAT WERE RELEASED BY THE COMPTROLLER ARE MISSING SOME SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS.

SO WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH THE TAX OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE DONE AND DALLAS CARD HAS TOLD US THAT THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S GETTING DONE.

HOWEVER, IT DOES CAUSE AN ISSUE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS INTO OUR TEMPLATE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR FUNDING IS GOING TO BE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE USED THE FUNDING TEMPLATE THAT WE HAD PRIOR TO THAT.

BUT REMEMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ENROLLMENT BASED UPON WHAT IT IS, AROUND 13,300.

WHEN WE SEE ZONDA IN APRIL,

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THOSE MAY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, WHICH WOULD CHANGE OUR FUNDING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ATTENDANCE RATE OF 96% FOR THESE PROJECTIONS.

LOOKING AT AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 2.5% IN CONTRACTED SERVICES.

THAT'S ABOUT AVERAGE, SOMETIMES IT'S EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT THE PROPERTY VALUES WHICH THEN LEAD TO THIS HOLD HARMLESS THAT IS BEING CALCULATED FOR NOT ONLY THE PROPERTY TAX COMPRESSION, BUT ALSO SOME FOR RECAPTURE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL TAX COMPRESSION.

WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THOSE CALCULATIONS TO COME IN.

THESE BUDGETS ARE PRELIMINARY.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE FUNDING ENTITLEMENT FOR A DISTRICT LIKE COPPELL ISD WITH AN ENROLLMENT ABOUT 13,000 IN ATTENDANCE RATE OF 96% WHAT I'VE DONE IS TRIED TO BREAK THIS DOWN AND REMOVE RECAPTURE OUT OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT MAKES THE NUMBERS LOOK A LITTLE SKEWED.

WE GET FUNDING FROM THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

LOCAL FUNDING FROM OUR TAX COLLECTIONS, INTEREST EARNINGS, THINGS LIKE FACILITY RENTALS, ATHLETIC TICKETS, AND MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES.

STATE FUNDING COMES FROM THE STATE, SCHOOL FUNDING FORMULA, AND TRS ON BEHALF.

THEN FEDERAL FUNDING WE GET SHARS REVENUE, AND THAT REVENUE GOES INTO OUR GENERAL OPERATING FUND.

WE DO GET OTHER FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS EQUATION.

LOCAL TAX COLLECTIONS VARY EACH YEAR AND IT DEPENDS HOW MUCH WE GET TO KEEP.

THIS IS WHERE RECAPTURE COMES IN.

THE FUNDING FORMULA DETERMINES HOW MUCH OF THOSE LOCAL TAX COLLECTIONS WE GET TO KEEP.

INTEREST EARNINGS VARY WITH THE RATE.

THE LAST SIX YEARS THE AVERAGE HAS BEEN ABOUT 1.4 MILLION.

AS YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE MADE OVER SIX MILLION IN INTEREST EARNINGS.

THAT WAS A GREAT BOON TO OUR BUDGET FOR LAST YEAR.

FACILITY RENTALS ARE AROUND 250.

YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER.

OTHER LOCAL TOTAL IS ABOUT $2.6 MILLION THAT WE EARN.

THE STATE, THAT SCHOOL FUNDING VARIES EVERY YEAR BASED ON THE FUNDING FORMULA.

THAT WE HAVE TO ESTIMATE WHEN WE HAVE ALL OF OUR DATA TOGETHER.

THEN TRS ON BEHALF, REVENUE IS OFFSET WITH AN EXPENSE NUMBER, AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO IGNORE TRS ON BEHALF IN THIS EXERCISE.

THEN OUR SHARS REVENUE IS TYPICALLY AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS.

AS YOU KNOW THE SHARS REVENUE IS A LITTLE BIT UP IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT AT A MILLION RIGHT NOW BUT IT COULD POTENTIALLY GO DOWN TO ABOUT $500,000.

>> MS. [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES.

>> AT THIS POINT, CAN YOU BREAK DOWN THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT ARE USED IN THE DISTRICT FROM LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL SOURCES? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL FUNDING IS LOCAL AS COMPARED TO STATE AND FEDERAL?

>> THE STATE FUNDING, AND ACTUALLY, I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE WILL HELP ILLUSTRATE THAT.

LAST YEAR, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN '22, '23, TAX COLLECTIONS WERE ABOUT $152.8 MILLION.

SCHOOL FUNDING FROM THE STATE WAS ABOUT EIGHT MILLION.

THAT'S DRIVEN BY THE FUNDING FORMULA FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $160.8 MILLION.

THEN WE SENT 49 MILLION OF THAT BACK TO THE STATE AND RECAPTURE.

THE DISTRICT HAD A NET OF ABOUT $111, $112 MILLION.

WHEN WE ADD TO THAT, THE ADDITIONAL YIELD ON THE GOLDEN PENNIES THAT CAME INTO LAW THIS YEAR AND THAT 1% HIGHER ATTENDANCE THAT WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE ADDING ABOUT ANOTHER FOUR-AND-A-QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO GET TO A TOTAL FUNDING ENTITLEMENT OF AROUND $116 MILLION.

IT'S HARD TO SAY MILLIONS ALL THE TIME.

BUT YEAH, $116 MILLION.

THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S ACTUALS PLUS THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE ARE EXPECTING THIS YEAR FROM GOLDEN PENNIES IN THE HIGHER ATTENDANCE RATE.

THAT'S, A DISTRICT WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS LIKE COPPELL ISD AND ENROLLMENT OF AROUND 133 SHOULD BUDGET FOR STATE OR LOCAL FUNDING OF ABOUT 116 MILLION.

THAT'S UNDER CURRENT LAW.

>> NOT WITH THE NEW HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION?

>> NO, THAT INCLUDES THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES WITH THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S ABOUT WHAT OUR STATE FUNDING IS.

THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL HOLD HARMLESS THAT IS ADDED BASED UPON THE CALCULATIONS WE'RE WAITING FOR FROM THE STATE.

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>> DOES THIS INCLUDE THE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS INTEREST AND THE FACILITY RENTALS?

>> THAT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE. HERE WE GO.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

[LAUGHTER] IF WE TAKE THE OTHER LOCAL FUNDING, ANYWHERE FROM 2.6 TO LET'S SAY 6.6, IF WE HAVE HIGH INTEREST RATES, WE ADD IT TO THAT STATE FUNDING ENTITLEMENT OF 116 MILLION AND WE TAKE THE SHARS REVENUE OF A MILLION, WE COME UP TO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ABOUT 119 AND $123 MILLION IN REVENUE.

WE JUST WANT TO REMEMBER THAT $123 MILLION THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPARING HERE.

THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE EXPENDITURES FOR CISD, A DISTRICT WITH ABOUT 133 AND 96%? WELL, THIS IS WHAT OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET LOOKS LIKE.

WE'VE GOT OUR 2022, '23 ACTUALS THERE AND OUR '23, '24 BUDGETED NUMBERS.

OUR PROJECTED NUMBER BASED UPON WHERE WE WERE AT THE END OF DECEMBER, AND THEN SOME PROJECTIONS OUT WITH A 3% COST OF LIVING INCREASED AND 2.5 % INCREASE IN CONTRACTED SERVICES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WHEN WE PUT THAT $123 MILLION OF REVENUE IN THERE, A LOT OF THOSE NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM ARE A LOT BIGGER THAN 123 MILLION.

THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE FACING IS THAT OUR EXPENDITURES ARE HIGHER THAN THE EXPECTED REVENUE.

WE KNEW THAT WHEN THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED.

WHEN WE LOOK AT FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT $20 MILLION AVAILABLE IN FUND BALANCE AND WE HAVE COMMITTED THE 13.5 THAT IS OUR BUDGET DEFICIT.

WE'VE GOT A TOTAL OF ABOUT $34 MILLION PRIOR TO REACHING A POINT WHERE WE WOULD BE REDUCING THAT FUND BALANCE TO ABOUT 45 MILLION.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE ONLY HAVE 90 DAYS WORTH OF CASH.

AS YOU REMEMBER, WE NEED THE CASH FLOW BECAUSE THE DISTRICT IT HAS TO WAIT FOR TAX REVENUE TO START COMING IN IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY.

FOR US TO SURVIVE FROM SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE CASH TO MEET OUR PAYROLL TO PAY ALL OF OUR EXPENSES.

ALSO, IF THE FUND BALANCE GETS THAT LOW, CASH FLOW IS GOING TO BE VERY TIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO CAUSE US TO HAVE A LOT LESS FLEXIBILITY WITH THE THINGS WE CAN DO.

WHEN I SAY THAT, IT IS THAT WITH OUR FEDERAL FUNDS, OTHER GRANTS THAT WE GET, THE DISTRICT PAYS FOR THE EXPENSES FIRST AND ASKS FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

THAT'S HOW THOSE GRANTS WORK.

WE MAY BE EXPENDING DOLLARS AND WAITING FOR A REIMBURSEMENT, AND IT MAY TAKE 45 OR 60 DAYS TO GET THAT REIMBURSEMENT.

IT PUTS US IN THAT SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE LESS FLEXIBILITY WITH THOSE THINGS.

ALSO, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE CREDIT RATING AND THE IMPACT ON THE COSTS OF THE BONDS THAT WE WERE TO SELL IN THE FUTURE.

THE MARKET WOULD NOT LOOK KINDLY ON A HUGE REDUCTION IN OUR FUND BALANCE UNLESS WE HAD A PLAN.

>> IS THERE A NUMBER OF DAYS AVAILABLE THAT IS A TIPPING POINT WITH OUR BOND RATINGS OR OUR CREDIT RATINGS? LIKE, WHAT IS THE FACTOR? WHAT'S THE LITTLE MAGIC THERE?

>> OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR HAS TOLD US THAT 90 DAYS IS ABOUT THE MINIMUM.

THAT'S WHERE IT TURNS YELLOW.

IS ABOUT 90 DAYS.

NOW, A REDUCTION IN THE FUND BALANCE COULD IMPACT OUR CREDIT RATING BEFORE THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN.

IF ALL THAT THE MARKET COULD SEE WAS THAT IT WAS FALLING, THAT COULD IMPACT OUR CREDIT RATING PRIOR TO EVEN GETTING TO 90 DAYS.

I PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS JUST TO ILLUSTRATE HOW THE BUDGET WOULD WORK.

THIS IS THAT INITIAL SCENARIO THAT I SHOWED YOU A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAT SAYS, OKAY,

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IF WE ADD A 3% COST OF LIVING INCREASE ON TOP OF OUR CURRENT EXPENDITURES, AND 2.5% IN CONTRACTED SERVICES, NO INCREASE IN ANY OTHER EXPENSES, THEN OUR FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR WOULD BE ABOUT $13 MILLION THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR OR 11 MILLION, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THEN WE WOULD EXPECT THAT IT WOULD THEN CONTINUE TO GO DOWN BECAUSE ALL WE'RE REALLY DOING IS ADDING EXPENSES AT THIS POINT IN TIME MEANS THAT BY '24, '25 WE'RE DOWN TO 50 MILLION AND BY '25, '26 WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE 90 DAYS.

>> THE CONTRACTING SERVICES REMIND ME OF THAT ONE.

AGAIN, DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE UTILITIES? [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT INCLUDES OUR BUS TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDES OUR CUSTODIAL SERVICES.

IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE PROFESSIONAL LEARNING THAT WE DO.

IT INCLUDES A LOT OF THINGS YES, AS FAR AS UTILITIES ARE GOING, THINGS THAT WE HAVE LITTLE CONTROL OVER THE PRICE OF NECESSARILY.

NOW WE CAN RENEGOTIATE CONTRACTS.

WE HAVE WRITTEN IN THOSE CONTRACTS CERTAIN COST OF LIVING INCREASES FOR THOSE CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.

IF WE LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

IN SCENARIO A, WE MAKE NO CHANGES TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

BUT WE DON'T PASS ON THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE.

WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THE 2.5% IN CONTRACTED SERVICES.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FUND BALANCE IS GOING DOWN, NOT BY QUITE AS MUCH, BUT IT'S STILL GOING DOWN.

IN '25, '26, WE ARE BELOW THAT $45 MILLION.

WE ARE IN THE RED THERE.

SCENARIO B LOOKS AT IF WE ARE ABLE TO REDUCE OUR PAYROLL BY ABOUT 3.5 MILLION FOR TWO YEARS.

I STARTED FISCAL YEAR 26 BECAUSE THE BOARD WAS CLEAR THAT WE SHOULDN'T MAKE ANY LARGE CHANGES IN '24, '25.

BUT THAT IN '25, '26 IF WE WERE TO REDUCE PAYROLL BY 3.5 MILLION FOR TWO YEARS AND REDUCE EXPENDITURES BY 875,000 FOR THREE YEARS PASS ALONG A COST OF LIVING INCREASE, THE CONTRACTED SERVICES INCREASE.

IT'S STILL THE SAME SCENARIO.

REMEMBERING HERE, THIS RATIO BETWEEN 3.5 MILLION IN PAYROLL AND 875,000 IN EXPENSES, THAT'S ABOUT THE 80 20, IT'S ABOUT 80 20 SPLIT WHICH IS WHERE WE TYPICALLY ARE WITH OUR BUDGET, 80% OR MORE IS PAYROLL AND 20% IS SPENT ON OTHER ITEMS. THAT'S HOW I MODELED THAT ONE.

BUT WITH A 3% INCREASE COST OF LIVING INCREASE, WE'RE ADDING ABOUT THREE MILLION DOLLARS TO THE BUDGET.

IF WE'RE ONLY TAKING OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN FOUR, WE'RE NOT MAKING VERY MUCH PROGRESS.

SCENARIO C LOOKS AT A REDUCTION OF PAYROLL FOR EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS FOR TWO YEARS STARTING IN FISCAL YEAR 26.

REDUCTION OF EXPENSES OF TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR THREE YEARS.

THAT 3% COST OF LIVING IS IN THERE, 2.5% CONTRACTED SERVICES.

YOU CAN SEE HOW FUND BALANCE GOES DOWN.

BUT IT STARTS TO STABILIZE BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO COME TO A BALANCED BUDGET IN '26, '27.

>> DID YOU SAY BALANCED BUDGET, DOES THAT MEAN A NET ZERO BUDGET?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> ACTUALLY, WE WOULD ADD A LITTLE BIT TO FUND BALANCE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SCENARIO B.

NOW, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS FOR TWO YEARS, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PAYROLL TO CUT.

IN SCENARIO D I LOOKED AT WHAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO START SOME OF THAT WORK EARLIER AND START IN FISCAL YEAR 24, 25? LOOK AT A REDUCTION OF PAYROLL OF FIVE MILLION FOR THREE YEARS AND A REDUCTION OF EXPENSES OF TWO MILLION FOR THREE YEARS.

STILL BEING ABLE TO PASS ON THAT 3% COST OF LIVING INCREASE, THEIR FUND BALANCE STAYS ABOVE 45 MILLION.

WE'RE ABLE TO PASS ALONG THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE.

HERE

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I'M GOING TO PAUSE HERE JUST TO ASK FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS OR LEAVE THE FLOOR OPEN TO YOU TO DISCUSS THE INFORMATION. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE WANT TO RECOLLECT MAYBE WHAT WE HAD DECIDED BEFORE FOR THE TWO YEARS.

WE WANT TO ANYTHING THAT WAS LAST YEAR?

>> WE WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGE FOR LAST YEAR, WE WANT FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR.

WE WERE AS ORIGINAL DISCUSSION START TO MAKE SOME CHANGES FOR '24, '25 WHICH IS THE SCENARIO D.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> YEAH. I THINK PART OF THAT DISCUSSION TOO, IF I REMEMBER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME BIG, MAJOR, MAJOR CHANGES BECAUSE WOULD LEAD IN WITH PLENTY OF TIME FOR PLANNING AND THE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT PIECE OF IT TOO.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE PROGRAMMATIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> BUT NOW IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES FOR '24, '25, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME.

WE HAVE SPENT YEAR AND A HALF OF THAT TIME.

SIX MONTHS TO DISCUSS AND COME UP WITH THE PLAN.

>> DANA, CAN YOU TELL ME IF MY MATH IS RIGHT BUT I'M JUST GOING BACK ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES.

BUT IN SCENARIO D WITH THAT PERCENT OF STAFFING DOLLAR AMOUNT, IS THAT ABOUT 4.5%?

>> THE FIVE MILLION FOR THREE YEARS?

>> YEAH.

>> THAT'S ABOUT 15 MILLION.

>> RIGHT. BUT WHAT PERCENT OF THAT OF OUR STAFFING COST?

>> WHEN I LOOKED AT ONE YEAR GOING BACK INTO SLIDES, IT WAS LIKE FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TO 11 MILLION ROUGHLY, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUSHING THESE HARD DECISIONS, IT WAS BASED ON LET'S SEE WHAT LEGISLATURE DOES.

WE STARTED AT THE MEETING THAT THEY DID NOTHING OTHER THAN PASS MORE UNDERFUNDED OR NON FUNDED MANDATES.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY BIG HOPES FOR ANY SPECIAL SESSION.

LEGISLATURE IS NOT GOING TO BE MEETING NEXT YEAR SO BY THE TIME OUR LAWMAKERS MEET AGAIN, WE WILL ALREADY BE IN DEFICIT.

>> THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> INTERPRETATION OF THE 89 LEGISLATIVE SESSION UNTIL [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH, AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR.

IF WE GET TAKE THEM AT LEAST A YEAR, SOME MORE THAN THAT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IF WE'RE TALKING 89 WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY MAYBE GETTING MONEY, THEN IT COULD BE AUGUST AFTER THE 89TH, BEFORE THAT'S EVEN INTERPRETED.

>> OR OF 2019 IT WAS MORE THAN A YEAR BY THE TIME WE FIGURED EVERYTHING OUT.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THAT DOES EXPEDITE SOME OF OUR INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A TEAM.

WE DON'T WANT OUR COMMUNITY, AND I'M ALSO INCLUDING OUR STAFF MEMBERS TO BE SURPRISED BY SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE THE ADEQUATE FUNDING FROM THE STATE DIDN'T OCCUR.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE WAITING FOR BANKING ON, PSEUDO PROMISED AND SINCE IT DIDN'T OCCUR, WE'RE HAVING TO MAYBE SPEED IT UP A BIT AS FAR AS OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE CONCERNED.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING I WAS SAYING TO NICHE IS IF WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, IF THERE'S NO SPECIAL SESSION AND WE DON'T GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING, THAT 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS IN 2026.

IF THEY ACTED QUICKLY AND IF TA ACTED QUICKLY, THE BEST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE FOR THE '26, '27 SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY GETTING.

[OVERLAPPING] I DIDN'T ARTICULATE ALL OF THAT CLEARLY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> UNDER EVERY SECTION EXCEPT TWO.

>> TO YOUR POINT, THE LAST TIME WE GOT ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WITH HOUSE BILL 3 OR 233, IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AFTERWARDS BEFORE WE EVEN FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT MEANT FOR US.

>> WE'RE ESSENTIALLY BACK, IF YOU, ON DANA'S EARLY SLIDE WITH THE WHITE DIAMONDS, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY BACK AT A 2014 FUNDING LEVEL.

ROUGHLY, JUST EYEBALLING IT, REALLY WHERE WE SIT TODAY.

>> OUR HOPE WAS THAT OUR LAWMAKERS WOULDN'T TAKE THE STANCE THEY'VE TAKEN AND WOULD HELP OUR TEACHERS, PUBLIC STAFF BUT THEY HAVE NOT.

>> HOW MUCH HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED? BUT NO BILLS HAVE BEEN [OVERLAPPING]

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>> NOT ADEQUATE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BUT AT LEAST SOME MILLION IS SITTING THERE WAITING TO BE ALLOCATED BUT NO ACTIONS BEING TAKEN.

>> I WANT TO HEAR TRUST WATTS' THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO DELAY EVEN FURTHER LAST TIME WE SPOKE.

BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS NOW?

>> TAKING IN AND LISTENING.

MY BROAD STROKE HAS ALWAYS BEEN I WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE A LONG RAMP UP AS LONG AS WE CAN DO AND BE WALKING ALONGSIDE US IN THESE DISCUSSIONS AND HARD CONVERSATIONS AND DECISIONS.

THAT'S MY THING. FIRST, NO BIG SURPRISES, NO RAPID SURPRISES, NOTHING LIKE THAT.

HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, SO LET'S JUST BE INCREDIBLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THE RAMP UP WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS AS HAVE WAITED TWO YEARS AND THEN STILL BE IN A VERY SPEEDY PROCESS AND NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING IN THOSE PAST TWO YEARS, THAT WOULD BE A VERY FRUSTRATING SCENARIO.

>> TALKING ABOUT THE RAMP UP, I DON'T WANT THE IDEA COME ACROSS IN THIS MEETING THAT WE ARE YET TO START THE RAMP UP.

WE HAVE BEEN RAMPING UP.

WE HAVE BEEN RAMPING UP FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS.

WE HAVE BEEN DELAYING HARD DECISIONS FOR SOME POSSIBLE GOOD NEWS, BUT WE HAVE DISCUSSED MANY DIFFERENT WAYS BUDGET CAN BE REDUCED.

NONE OF THEM IS CONDUCIVE TO US OR THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY ARE THE HARD DECISIONS WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE AT SOME POINT.

RAMP UP PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR TWO PLUS YEARS.

IT'S MORE ABOUT OKAY, RAMP UP PROCESS HAS CONTINUED NOW IT'S TIME TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.

WE KNOW HOW THE COOKIE HAS CRUMBLED, NOT IN OUR FAVOR, AND THERE'S SOME HARD DECISIONS TO BE MADE.

>> I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE STRATEGIC DESIGN PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.

YES, I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY THERE HASN'T BEEN ENGAGEMENT.

WE'VE BEEN ALL ABOUT ENGAGEMENT FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

BUT I'VE SAID THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE A SCHOOL OR ELIMINATE A PROGRAM, YOU DON'T JUST SAY THAT THE NEXT WEEK, THERE HAS TO BE A VERY INTENTIONAL LEAD UP TO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE MY RESPONSE.

YES, I SEE THE NUMBERS AS WE ALL DO.

THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

BUT AGAIN, AS IS OUR CORE MISSION IS TO WALK ALONGSIDE THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> IT WASN'T A QUESTION. [LAUGHTER] FOR YOUR STATEMENT, I DIDN'T ASK YOU A QUESTION.

I WANTED TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> WELL, MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT I AM HIGHLY ANNOYED [OVERLAPPING], IT MAKES ME WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] WHICH ISN'T APPROPRIATE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S THE FACT OF THE MATTER. LET'S DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE FORWARD.

I AM CURIOUS AND THIS MAY NOT BE A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ANSWER, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW MANY PEOPLE, STAFF, DO WE AUTOMATICALLY ATTRITION, I GUESS EVERY YEAR IF YOU WERE TO DO NO NEW HIRES FOR INSTANCE, IS THERE A TRENDING NUMBER THAT WE KNOW OR A KIND OF LOOK AT [LAUGHTER] TO YOUR POINT OF LIKE TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE WHO STAY HERE, NO NEW HIRES, JUST SHIFT PEOPLE AROUND? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> OUR RESIGNATION RATE, ON AVERAGE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, HAS BEEN 12-13%.

WHAT'S HARD IS THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CERTIFIED AND COULD BE MOVED INTO DIFFERENT AREAS, DIFFERENT GRADE LEVELS.

THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS THAT AREN'T IN THAT SAME FASHION AND WOULD BE HARDER TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND, WHETHER IT'S IN SOME OF THE SUPPORT AREAS OR SPECIALIZED SKILLS IN SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

I'M EVEN HESITANT TO SAY ANY NAMES OR DEPARTMENTS OUTLET, BUT TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION 12-13%.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WELCOME.

>> OPENING YOU BACK. I THINK THAT DISCUSSION, BUT TO YOUR POINT H, I THINK WE CAN GO BACK TO 1920 ISH TIME FRAME WHERE WE STARTED THIS.

AS A GROUP, AS A BOARD AND DOCTORS, ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN VERY DILIGENT TO NOT COMMIT WITH HACKSAW.

WE'VE USED SCALPELS AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY DILIGENT TO NOT MAKE ANY WHIPSAW CHANGES.

WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THE LEGISLATURE AND THAT'S NOT COMING.

I THINK TO THE SLIDES YOU WERE SHOWING, TO ME, SCENARIO B PUTS US IN THAT PATH THAT WE'VE BEEN IN IN TERMS OF,

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LET'S BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, KNOWING WE'VE GOT TO RAMP UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE NOT MAKING HUGE CHANGES IN TERMS OF OUR PROGRAMS, CAMPUSES, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE OFFERING AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO NOT DO THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING FROM SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS.

BUT I KNOW WE DO GOT TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS GOING FORWARD.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF HOW YOU PRESENTED THE DATA.

IT COULDN'T BE PRESENTED IN A MORE SIMPLER MANNER TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO US.

THANK YOU FOR THE WAY YOU PRESENT SUCH COMPLEX PROBLEMS IN A WAY SIMPLE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> I THINK ONE OTHER THING THAT COMPLIMENTS THIS IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS THAT HAVE SAVED US OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HOLD HARMLESS FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED DURING COVID, WHEN WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE YEARS WHEN THERE WAS A YEAR WHEN WE HAD TWO YEARS OF SCHARS FUNDING, AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS THAT HAVE HELPED TO SAVE THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR, EVEN LAST YEAR, ALL THE INTEREST EARNINGS THAT WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S SIX MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS NOT BUDGETED.

OTHERWISE, THAT WOULD HAVE HIT US AND WE WOULD HAVE REDUCED OUR FUND BALANCE BY A GOOD FIVE MILLION DOLLARS HAD WE NOT HAD THAT.

THE DIFFERENCE IS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE HORIZON THAT'S GOING TO SAVE US HERE UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL SESSION THAT COMES BACK AND SAYS, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT MONEY.

BUT I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE CARDS RIGHT NOW.

>> THEY SEEM OCCUPIED WITH OTHER.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> NOW IN TERMS OF THAT POINT TOO, WITH SPECIAL SESSIONS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM JUST BEING REAL ABOUT THE SITUATION, AGAIN, THINGS ARE GOING TO HINGE ON SUPER TUESDAY AND PRIMARIES, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

BUT IF THAT OUTCOME CHANGES AND YOU FLIP WHO ARE REPRESENTATIVES, THEY DON'T GET SWORN IN UNTIL YEAR AFTER NEXT.

THERE'S NO NEED FOR A SPECIAL SESSION.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE THOSE VOTES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.

>> IT'S COSTING TAXPAYERS MONEY, THERE'S NOTHING PRODUCTIVE HAPPENING AND IT'S COSTING US MONEY WHICH IS HARD TO SUPPORT.

>> PUTTING IT IN OTHER WORDS, BESIDES SPECIAL SESSION TALKING ABOUT REGULAR LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, FROM THIS POINT ONWARD, EVERYTHING GOES IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC EDUCATION CAN GET SELECTED.

LEGISLATURE COMES IN.

IT STILL WILL PUT US IN RED UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL SESSION WHICH AS YOU SAID, THERE IS NO ANNOUNCEMENT OR INFORMATION OUT THERE FOR MEANS THERE IS NOTHING IN HORIZON WHICH PREVENTS US CURRENTLY FROM GOING IN RED.

>> NO WAY, YOU JUST CAN'T WAIT ON THAT.

>> YEAH.

>> UNDER NO LEGISLATIVE TIMELINE WILL WE GET THE ADEQUATE FUNDING TO NOT MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE 12-13% SOUNDS GREAT, BUT THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHERE THAT ATTRITION HAPPENS FROM.

IF IT'S TOO CONCENTRATED, THEN WE LOSE LACK OF DELIVERING THE QUALITY EDUCATION THAT WE PROVIDE.

I WAS LIKE, THAT WAS AWESOME WHEN I HEARD THE NUMBER. [LAUGHTER]

>> I WAS LIKE IT WAS RESTRAINED.

>> YEAH. YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO SHAPE IT THE WAY YOU NEED.

>> [INAUDIBLE] WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR COMMENTS PRIOR TO 2019, WHAT YEAR DID WE RECEIVE FUNDING AND YOU TALKED ABOUT ABOUT 1,000 PLUS DOLLARS WERE ADDED AT THE TIME, HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT?

>> IT WAS IN 2019, '20 THAT THE BASIC ALLOTMENT WENT UP.

>> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> PRIOR TO THAT BETWEEN 2015 AND 2016 THE DISTRICTS GOT AN ADDITIONAL $100 FOR ADA, AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT THEY GOT 190.

YEARS BEFORE THAT GOT 185 SO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2009, 2010, THE BASIC ALLOTMENT WAS $4,765 SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE ABOUT $1,500 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2010 AND 2024.

>> THAT'S STILL UNDERSHOT INFLATION BY $200.

>> BUT THAT'S A 50% INCREASE WHILE THE INFLATION HAS GONE MORE THAN 3.5 TIMES THREE TIMES IN MOST OF THE COSTS.

>> I THINK THAT RECORD AGAIN, SUPPORTS US NOT WAITING TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S NOT MOST LIKELY.

>> EVEN HISTORICAL DATA IS SHOWING US THAT IT'S NO ONE IS GOING IT COULD,

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BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO WAS A TRE WAS A LOCAL THING AS WELL TO MITIGATE TO CREATE DEBRIDGE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THAT DID NOT OCCUR.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

>> THAT'S WHAT SAVED THE DAY.

>> THE TRE?

>> YEAH, THE TEXT RATIFICATION ELECTION IN 2010, WE TOOK IT TO A MAXIMUM [INAUDIBLE]

>> I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW UP TO THIS POINT, EVERYBODY'S FOCUS HERE AROUND THIS TABLE AS I FEEL ABOUT IT, IT'S BEEN MORE REVENUE GENERATING.

HOW CAN WE INCREASE THAT REVENUE? OPEN ENROLLMENT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE THERE.

WE'RE AT THAT INFLECTION POINT OF THERE'S REALLY, WHAT I'M HEARING, NOT MUCH MORE REVENUE THAT WE CAN SQUEEZE OUT OF THINGS.

WE'VE GOT TO REALLY LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF THE EQUATION.

>> WELL, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE LOOKED, AND INTERNALLY WE HAVE CUT COSTS.

WE RENEGOTIATED THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT.

THAT SAVES ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS WITH TRANSPORTATION THAT WE'VE DONE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THAT. WE HAVE DONE THAT.

I KNOW WE DID A 10% THAT'S THE BOARD BUDGET CUT TOO.

>> YEAH.

>> WE INCREASED OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT, WHICH I DID ABOUT A FEW HUNDRED MORE STUDENTS.

BUT IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE OF SCENARIO B, WHICH SEEMS MOST HEALTHY.

OPEN QUESTION FOR THE BOARD IS, HOW WOULD WE LIKE TO TACKLE THOSE THINGS BETWEEN SCENARIO C, SCENARIO D? SHOULD WE SET UP A WORKSHOP FOR IT TO JUST DISCUSS THESE TOPICS? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS? I THINK WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE USING YOUR WORDS, DAVID, WE ARE AT THE INFLECTION POINT BUT WHAT ARE THE ACTION ITEMS WE NEED TO TAKE FROM HERE?

>> BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THAT ON YOUR OPEN ENROLLMENT NOTE, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THERE'S ALSO AN INFLECTION POINT WHEN IT CAME TO OPEN ENROLLMENT.

AS IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN'T JUST OPEN THE DOOR TO EVERYBODY.

[OVERLAPPING] THERE'S A POINT WHERE YOU BRING IN ENOUGH STUFF, BECOMING MORE COSTLY, TEACHERS AND COST.

>> DIMINISHING RETIRES IN THAT ASPECT.

>> WE'RE SITTING PRETTY CLOSE AT THIS POINT.

>> GOOD POINT HERE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SPECIFIC WORKSHOP OR SERIES OF WORKSHOP BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO GO WITH SCENARIO D, WE HAVE JUST A FEW MONTHS REMAINING.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME LEFT BEFORE WE HAVE TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO THE STAFF.

>> CORRECT.

>> SCENARIO C GIVES US ANOTHER YEAR.

BUT THAT'S MORE WE DELAYED MORE DRASTIC.

MEJOR WILL HAVE TO DO AND THAT'S THE BOARD HAS BEEN TRYING TO AVOID THE ENTIRE TIME.

>> WE GOT TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH IT.

>> I THINK GOING BACK TO MR. CAR'S ORIGINAL COMMENTS TO TALK ABOUT VALUES, WHAT DO WE VALUE? BECAUSE THAT'S A KEY DRIVER IN THIS CONVERSATION.

IT'S NOT JUST THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES IS WHAT DO YOU VALUE AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE YOU CAN GO, I MEAN, WE COULD DO THE NUMBERS.

THE NUMBERS SHE'S ALREADY DONE.

YEAH, WE CAN SEE THAT.

BUT THE POINT IS, WHAT DO WE VALUE? BECAUSE NOW WHAT WE VALUE HAVING A STRATEGIC DESIGN EXERCISES GOING ON.

DO THOSE THINGS INTERCONNECT, BECAUSE THEY CAN DISCONNECT REAL QUICK.

WE CAN UNDERMINE THE STRATEGIC DESIGN THAT'S GOING ON.

>> TO ADD ON TO THAT, I THINK IT'S WHAT WE VALUE AND ALSO WHO DO WE WANT TO BE? IF WE CAN ANSWER WHO WE WANT TO BE THROUGH THE STRATEGIC DESIGN PROCESS, THROUGH A CONVERSATION, SOME THINGS MIGHT ORGANICALLY FALL AWAY, AND I'M NOT SAYING PAINLESSLY, BUT SOME THINGS MAY EMERGE AND BECOME MORE APPARENT THAT WE SHOULD BE PURSUING WHICH FREES US UP TO RELEASE SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE AREN'T WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT, BUT THERE'S AN IN CREEP POTENTIALLY.

>> I'M NOT PART OF STRATEGIC DESIGN COMMITTEE, SO HAVE THESE SLIDES AND THESE SCENARIOS BEEN SHOWN AND ADDRESSED TO THE COMMITTEE?

>> NO [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT DISCONNECT IS ALREADY HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY MAY BE THINKING IN A WAY TO OLD COPPELL'S WAYS WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WHICH IS NOT THE REALITY THAT'S IN MY MIND.

I'M TRYING TO SHORT CIRCUIT THE TWO PROCESSES SO THEY COME ALIGNED BECAUSE I'M FEARFUL THAT THEY'RE ALREADY MISALIGNED.

THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THESE SHORTCOMINGS.

THEY MAY COME UP WITH A LAUNDRY LIST OF ALL THE THINGS WE WANT,

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AND WE'RE AT A SITUATION THAT WE CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO KEEP UP THE THINGS WE ALREADY HAVE, THE FACILITIES, THE PROGRAMS.

>> YOU WERE THERE THURSDAY WHEN THE PRESENTED.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S A MISALIGNMENT OR DO YOU THINK SOME THINGS MIGHT FALL INTO PLACE?

>> FOR SURE THOUGH THIS DATA HAS NOT BEEN SHARED WITH THE [OVERLAPPING] STRATEGIC PLANNING YET.

>> SOME OF THE ACTION TEAM MEMBERS ARE AWARE BUT NOT EVERYBODY TO THIS LEVEL.

>> YES.

>> I GUESS, LET ME POSE A QUESTION BACK TO YOU GUYS.

UNDER SCENARIO D, I ASSUME THERE'S ALREADY AT LEAST VERY HIGH LEVEL MACRO 30,0 FOOT, 75,000 FOOT LEVEL, WHERE WE COULD START WITH SOME OF THOSE CUTS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING IMPACTING THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE THEN? BECAUSE I AGREE WITH HUMAN EACH TOO.

WE'VE STILL GOT THE STRATEGIC DESIGN WORKING ON AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE DIRECTION WE GO ON SOME MAJOR CHANGES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON ON THAT PIECE BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE US SOME OF THAT COMMUNITY INPUT TO AT THE BEGINNING OF IT. NOT ALL OF IT.

>> IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

>> BUT IT GIVES US A STARTING POINT WHERE WE CAN START NARROWING IT DOWN AND THEN GIVE, GOING BACK FOR MORE.

>> WELL, LET'S GO TO PIN IN THAT FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW MORE SLIDES THAT MIGHT PROVIDE SOME CLARITY, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO SLIDE 33, WHICH IS THE C AND D OPTION.

THEN I KNOW AT THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING IS WHEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WILL BE PRESENTED AND ANGELA CAN ALSO SPEAK TO THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT JUMPED OUT.

>> YEAH. WE SPECIFICALLY DID COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS ON PURPOSE, KNOWING KIND OF SOME OF THAT.

THEN WE HAD A CABINET LIAISON IN EVERY ACTION TEAM THAT REALLY WAS ABLE TO KIND OF MONITOR WHAT WAS GOING ON, SO THAT WE COULD JUST UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE HAD A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF ALL OF THIS.

SO I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE PUT SOME THINGS IN PLACE SO THAT WE'RE STILL BEING INNOVATIVE, BUT WE'RE ALSO BEING MINDFUL OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN.

THAT IS WHERE WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LUXURY OF TIME BECAUSE WE CAN DICTATE THE ROLLOUT OF THAT PLAN.

IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A FIVE YEAR PLAN IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE FEEL LIKE MIGHT BE A SIGNIFICANT COST THAT MIGHT BE PUSHED LATER TO THE PLAN, AND SO SO THERE IS SOME ADJUSTMENT THERE THAT WE HAVE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, DIANA'S GOT SEVERAL OTHER SLIDES THAT AGAIN, MIGHT PROVIDE SOME CLARITY AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS ONE.

>> THEN JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED.

YOU'LL REMEMBER THE DISTRICT WAS GROWING AND EVERY YEAR WE WERE GROWING, AND THAT WAS THINGS THAT SAVED THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR WAS THAT WE WE'RE ADDING MORE STUDENTS THAN WE WERE BUDGETING FOR.

THAT WAS A GOOD THING. IN 17 18, COPPELL HIGH IMPLEMENTED THE AB BLOCK SCHEDULE AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS A SEVEN PERIOD DAY.

THEN IN 1819 IT WENT TO AN EIGHT PERIOD DAY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT STUDENTS WERE NOW ABLE TO TAKE EIGHT CLASSES INSTEAD OF SEVEN.

AND THAT CLASS PERIOD NEEDS TO BE STAFFED.

THE NINTH GRADE CENTER WAS OPENED.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT, WELL, YES, WE BECAME A LITTLE BIT LESS EFFICIENT BECAUSE WE MOVED A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE, AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PRINCIPAL, ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE SAME SYNERGIES AS WE WOULD WHEN WE HAD ALL THOSE STUDENTS IN ONE BUILDING.

CANYON RANCH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS OPEN TO ADDRESS THE TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN THE SOUTH, BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT WE HAVE THAT MUCH MORE AVAILABLE CAPACITY FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THEN IN 1921, MANDATED THAT PRE KINDERGARTEN BECOME FULL DAY.

AS YOU KNOW, PRE KINDERGARTEN HAS A TEACHER AND AN AIDE IN EVERY CLASSROOM.

THAT'S TWO STAFF MEMBERS IN EVERY CLASSROOM.

AND WE ARE ONLY COMPENSATED BY THE STATE FOR 50% OF THAT.

WE DOUBLED AND CONTINUED TO GROW THAT PROGRAM BASED ON THOSE STUDENTS THAT QUALIFIED.

THE COSTS OF THAT HAVE BEEN INCREASING.

WHEN WE LOOK AT STAFFING PAYROLL, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, IT IS ABOUT 80% OF THE DISTRICT'S BUDGET.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE APPROPRIATE STAFFING LEVELS FOR A DISTRICT THAT IN FIVE YEARS IS GOING TO BE DOWN TO 13,000 PERHAPS, OR SOMEWHERE BETWEEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND 13,000 HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT

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THE DISTRICT'S RESOURCES ARE USED WHERE THEY'RE MAKING THE BIGGEST IMPACT? SCHOOL DISTRICTS USE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

THEY'RE LISTED HERE AS TO HOW THEY MEASURE AND MONITOR STAFFING LEVELS.

THIS IS A LOOK AT STAFFING FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS FROM 2017, 18 UNTIL 2023.

24, YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH.

IN ENROLLMENT HAS CHANGED ABOUT 6% SINCE THEN.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND LINE, ITS TOTAL TEACHING STAFF, AND THEN IT SAYS TEACHERS PER 1,000 STUDENTS.

YOU CAN COMPARE STAFF LEVELS PER 1,000 STUDENTS, THAT ALLOWS THAT GROWTH BASED UPON STUDENT ENROLLMENT.

WHAT IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR IS THE NEED OF SOME OF THE STUDENTS THAT SOME OF THE STUDENT POPULATIONS THAT HAVE GROWN WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

BUT YOU'LL SEE HOW CERTAIN STAFFING LEVELS HAVE INCREASED SINCE THAT.

ONE IS SUPPORT STAFF AND ONE IS EDUCATIONAL AIDS.

YOU'LL SEE EDUCATIONAL AIDS HAS NEARLY DOUBLED SINCE 2017, '17, '18.

>> YOU'LL NOTE WE HAVE HAD SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EDUCATIONAL NEEDS AS OUR STUDENTS HAD RETURNED TO US, MANY BEING AT HOME FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND NOT ONLY EDUCATIONAL ACADEMIC NEEDS BUT BEHAVIORAL NEEDS.

WE'RE SEEING MUCH MORE INVOLVED BEHAVIORAL NEEDS THAN WE'VE SEEN BEFORE, AND THAT JUST REQUIRES ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.

>> GROWTH IN SPECIAL EDUCATION HAS GROWN.

MS. FLORES WAS HERE AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING AND I BELIEVE AND TALKED ABOUT THE GROWTH OF SPECIAL EDUCATION.

IT'S MORE THAN DOUBLED SINCE 2016, '17.

AND THE STAFF THAT SERVES THOSE SPECIAL STUDENTS ARE MOSTLY CONTAINED IN THAT SUPPORT ROLE.

DIAGNOSTICIANS, OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS, SPEECH THERAPISTS, ETC.

THIS IS A FEDERALLY REQUIRED PROGRAM.

HERE, THE SUPPORT STAFF, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE HAVE BEEN AN INCREASE IN ABOUT 60 SUPPORT STAFF.

AND IT'S REALLY BEEN DRIVEN BY THE INCREASE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION POSITIONS.

WE'VE JUST LISTED THE CHANGE HERE.

THESE ARE THE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE THAT TIME.

IN ADDITION, THERE'S OTHER SUPPORT POSITIONS.

A SAFETY AND SECURITY PERSON, LICENSED COUNSELORS, NURSES, AND SOME OTHER CAMPUS BASED POSITIONS AS WELL THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED.

THESE ARE ALL WITHIN THAT SUPPORT STAFF GROUPING.

INCREASE IN EDUCATIONAL AIDS HAS REALLY BEEN DRIVEN BY THE MANDATORY IMPLEMENTATION OF FULL DAY PRE-K AND BY THE INCREASE IN AIDS FOR HIGH NEEDS STUDENTS.

THEN WE TALK ABOUT FACILITIES AND THINK ABOUT WHAT STANDARDS SHOULD COPPELL'S USE ITS FACILITY RESOURCES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT.

THE NEEDS CAN INCLUDE THINGS SUCH AS SPACE FOR, LET'S SAY, SPECIALISTS TO WORK WITH STUDENTS.

IT MIGHT NOT BE A TEACHER WITH 22 CHILDREN IN THEIR CLASSROOM.

IT MAY BE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING IN TO DO SPEECH THERAPY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH A FEW STUDENTS AT A TIME.

UNDERSTANDING THAT TOO.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS HAPPENED TO BE THE DECEMBER SNAPSHOT OF ELEMENTARY.

WE HAVE FEWER ELEMENTARY STUDENTS AND THEY'RE SPREAD OVER 11 SCHOOLS.

WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS WITH LOWER ENROLLMENT THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.

UM, THE BOARD KNOWS WE'VE ONLY GOT TWO OR THREE WAIVERS, I BELIEVE, WITH MORE THAN 22 IN A CLASSROOM, BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT 31 CLASSROOMS WITH 16 OR LESS LEARNERS IN IT.

THE DISTRICT IS FACING DECLINING ENROLLMENT.

TRYING TO RESPOND TO INFLATION, THOSE STAFFING CHALLENGES OF STAFF WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT FOR, ESPECIALLY THOSE HARD TO FILL POSITIONS, INCREASING MANDATED COSTS, AND LACK OF SUFFICIENT STATE FUNDING INCREASES.

THOSE ARE WHAT WE'RE FACING FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AS WE LOOK AT THIS BUDGET PLANNING.

THE QUESTIONS REALLY ARE, HOW SHOULD COPPELL ISD RESPOND TO THESE? HOW SHOULD THE DISTRICT USE ITS RESOURCES TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS THE GREATEST NEEDS THAT WE'VE GOT?

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HOW CAN WE MOVE TOWARDS THIS WHILE HOLDING ONTO OUR CORE VALUES, AND WHAT WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR? OUR CABINET'S BEEN MEETING TO LOOK AT [NOISE] WAYS TO INCREASE REVENUE AND DECREASE EXPENDITURES.

LOOKING AT BRINGING ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS IN AS WE NEED SPECIFIC THINGS RESEARCHED.

LOOKING AT AUDITING OUR CURRENT PRACTICES.

WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? WHEN I THINK OF SOMETHING IN MY AREA, LET'S SAY ATTENDANCE OR LET'S SAY CODING OF STUDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THAT CODING IS DONE ABSOLUTELY CORRECTLY.

WE'RE GETTING EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE ARE DUE, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE PRACTICES.

MONITORING ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THEN EVENTUALLY DEVELOPING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTION.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ARE ELEMENTARY MARKETING PLANS.

OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WE HAVE DONE MARKETING AS A WHOLE DISTRICT.

WE'RE TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TACTIC THIS YEAR.

INSTEAD, WE'VE MET A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WITH EACH ELEMENTARY PRINCIPAL, WE DID A SWOT ANALYSIS OF THEIR CAMPUS AND THEIR CAMPUS MARKETING NEEDS.

THEN WE TOOK THAT INFORMATION AND WE DEVELOPED INDIVIDUALIZED PLANS FOR EACH CAMPUS, BECAUSE EACH CAMPUS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND THERE ARE ENOUGH DIFFERENCES THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP THOSE PLANS WITH THOSE PRINCIPALS.

WE THEN HAVE MET AGAIN WITH THOSE PRINCIPALS AND GIVEN THEM THEIR PLANS.

WE HAVE A MEETING LATER THIS WEEK WHERE WE'RE GOING TO MEET ALL TOGETHER WITH THE ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS AND TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE ELEMENTARY MARKETING PLANS TO KNOW THAT EACH CAMPUS HAS A SPECIFIC ONE.

THEY'RE EACH A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT BASED OFF THE NEEDS OF THAT CAMPUS.

REALLY, THE GOAL OF THIS IS THAT, WE ATTRACT AND RETAIN FAMILIES WITH SPECIFICALLY ELEMENTARY OR YOUNG CHILDREN.

AT A MINIMUM, WE WANT TO AT LEAST TRY AND KEEP OUR KINDERGARTEN ENROLLMENT OF 713 FOR THE '24, '25 SCHOOL YEAR.

THERE ARE FOUR BIG LEVERS WE'RE USING AT EACH.

THESE ARE THE COMMONALITIES YOU'LL SEE IN EACH OF THE MARKETING PLANS FOR EACH OF THE CAMPUSES.

THEY HAVE SOME OTHER PIECES IN THERE BASED ON THAT CAMPUS, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CONSISTENT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS DEVELOPING A MARKETING MINDSET.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFT FOR COPPELL ISD, SO GETTING EVERY DISTRICT EMPLOYEE ON UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE MARKETING, THAT WE'RE RECRUITING FAMILIES, AND REALLY BEING ON THAT MARKETING MINDSET.

A LOT OF THAT GOES BACK TO STORYTELLING, EACH CAMPUS IS TELLING THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING INSIDE OF THEIR WALLS AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S A KEY PIECE TO THIS.

FOR SEVERAL YEARS WE'VE DONE THE I HEART CISD, AND IT'S GONE REALLY WELL FOR US.

BUT IT'S TIME FOR A BIT OF A REBRAND, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THE PHRASE, MY HOME IS COPPELL ISD, MY HOME IS RICHARD J. LEE, MY HOME IS AUSTIN ELEMENTARY FOR RECRUITING, NOT JUST FAMILIES BUT ALSO STAFF.

SO TALKING ABOUT WHY ARE FAMILIES CHOOSING TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO COPPELL ISD.

WHY ARE THEY CHOOSING AUSTIN ELEMENTARY? WHY ARE THEY CHOOSING WILSON? WHY ARE THEY CHOOSING THAT AND REALLY GETTING DOWN TO THAT SPECIFIC PIECE AND TALKING TESTIMONIALS.

WE MET WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND WE TALKED THROUGH WHO ARE WE GOING TO TALK TO, WHAT FAMILIES? REALLY CAPTURING THOSE TESTIMONIALS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PUSH FOR US, AND YOU WILL BEGIN TO SEE MY HOME IS AS OUR CLIENT, SO MY HOME IS, WHETHER IT'S COPPELL ISD OR RICHARD J. LEE OR CANYON RANCH OR WHATEVER IT IS.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE AND DEVELOP OUR TOUR PROCESS.

THAT REALLY TIES IN WITH THAT MARKETING MINDSET.

THIS PAST SCHOOL YEAR, WE RELAUNCHED THE TOUR PROCESS AND HELPED TO CENTRALIZE TOURS ON CAMPUSES AND THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT DID A GREAT JOB.

MY TEAM MEMBERS DID A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THE CAMPUS PRINCIPALS, BUT WE LEARNED SOME THINGS ALONG THE WAY AND WE'RE REFINING THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING A TOUR VIDEO FOR EACH CAMPUS, AND SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE A COUPLE OF THOSE.

CANYON RANCH, WHEN THEY WERE GOING OUT FOR ONE OF THE AWARDS THAT THEY WON THIS PAST YEAR, THEY DID A PHENOMENAL VIDEO.

I WAS IN A PRESENTATION AND I SAW IT AND IT JUST HIT ME ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FOR EACH CAMPUS BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE CULTURE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE AMAZING THINGS HAPPENING ON THAT CAMPUS, AND EACH CAMPUS HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE PERSONALITY AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE CRAFTING THESE VIDEOS FOR EACH CAMPUS AND MAYBE THAT WILL HELP US ALLEVIATE ALL OF THE NEEDS FOR A TON OF THE TOURS AND THEN WE CAN CENTRALIZE SOME OF THAT TOURS SO WE'RE NOT CAUSING AS MUCH DISRUPTION.

WE'LL BE CREATING THOSE VIDEOS FOR EACH OF OUR CAMPUSES.

I'VE ALREADY DONE A COUPLE OF THEM AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ROLL THOSE OUT.

THEN REALLY, THE FOURTH ONE IS ABOUT FOCUSING ON KINDER ENROLLMENT.

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HOW DO WE ATTRACT FAMILIES, AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR PRE-K KIDDOS WHO AREN'T ATTENDING THEIR HOME CAMPUS FEEL THAT CONNECTION TO THEIR HOME CAMPUS.

JUST REALLY BEING VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT CONNECTING THE PRE-K KIDDOS THAT ARE AT ONE OF THE FOUR SCHOOLS, BUT THEIR HOME CAMPUS IS A DIFFERENT CAMPUS.

WHAT DO WE DO TO BUILD THAT CONNECTION? THEN HOW DO WE ATTRACT ALL OF THE OTHER FAMILIES THAT THEIR KIDDOS DIDN'T ATTEND PRE-K, BUT WE WANT THEM TO CHOOSE COPPELL ISD AND NOT CHOOSE ONE OF THE OTHER CHOICES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S REALLY THE BIG FOCUS, THE BIG LOVERS THAT ARE IN OUR MARKETING PLAN AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO ROLL THOSE OUT.

AGAIN, WE'VE MET WITH ALL OF THE PRINCIPALS, THEY KNOW THE PLAN, AND WORKING THROUGH IT.

WE HAVE A MEETING THIS WEEK TO MAKE SOME BIG DECISIONS ABOUT SOME PRE-K PIECES AND SOME KINDERGARTEN PIECES.

THEN YOU'LL START TO SEE A LOT OF MY HOME IS.

>> MISS BROWN, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

I KNOW YOU DO A LOT OF ANALYTICS.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT ENTRY POINTS? WHERE ARE YOU SEEING FAMILIES COMING INTO THE DISTRICT NOW? IF YOU TOOK '23, '24, ARE THEY COMING IN AT THE ELEMENTARY? ARE THEY COMING IN AT MIDDLE SCHOOL? ARE THEY COMING IN AT HIGH SCHOOL? WHERE ARE THEY COMING IN AT THESE DAYS INTO THE DISTRICT?

>> WE STILL HAVE A LARGE GROUP THAT ARE COMING IN AT KINDERGARTEN.

IF THEY DON'T COME IN AT PRE-K, BECAUSE THEY QUALIFY.

WE DO HAVE A LARGE GROUP THAT'S COMING IN KINDERGARTEN.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVEN'T TURNED OVER THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD REGENERATION THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE DWINDLING, SO WE DO SEE A LARGE GROUP.

THEN WE DO SEE A GROUP THAT COMES IN AT MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THERE ARE SOME THAT WHETHER THEY COME IN IN THAT SIXTH, SEVENTH GRADE, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE HIGH SCHOOL.

WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS THIS TRANSITION IN SIXTH AND SEVENTH GRADE.

THEY MAY HAVE CHOSEN A PRIVATE SCHOOL, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN HOME SCHOOLED, OR THEY CHOSE ONE OF OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT DOESN'T CONTINUE ON INTO MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEY MAKE THAT TRANSITION OVER.

THEN WE SEE OUR NUMBERS INCREASE AT HIGH SCHOOL.

WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR SISTER FAMILIES THAT GO TO CHARTER SCHOOLS, THEY DO COME TO US FOR HIGH SCHOOL.

THE DATA IS THERE FOR THAT.

THEY DEFINITELY CHOOSE US FOR HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE VERY SMALL GRADUATING CLASSES.

THERE'S A REASON, THEY COME TO US.

WE STILL SEE THOSE ARE MAJOR ENTER POINTS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HOW ARE WE DOING IN OUR PRE-K PROGRAM? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE NEED OF THAT PROGRAM? I KNOW IT'S BASED ON ELIGIBILITY BUT STILL, DO YOU THINK WE GET SO MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED, APPLY FOR THAT PROGRAM?

>> DEFINITELY. I THINK WE WOULD SAY, AND DR. BROOKS MAY HAVE OTHER INFORMATION, BUT OUR CLASSES THEY FILL.

>> WE'RE DEFINITELY ATTRACTING.

I THINK THE BIG PIECE IS, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE ATTRACTING THOSE THAT WOULD MEET THE ELIGIBILITY.

>> YES.

>> NOW, THE MAJORITY OF OUR LEARNERS ARE MEETING THE ELIGIBILITY OF EMERGENT BILINGUAL. THAT'S GREAT.

THERE MAY BE A PERCENTAGE OF FAMILIES THAT ARE STILL CHOOSING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THEIR CHILD, EVEN IF THEY MEET OR NOT.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU THE MAJORITY THAT ARE MEETING THE ELIGIBILITY ARE COMING TO US, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S EARLY ENTRY.

THEN YOU'RE SAYING, GREAT, YOU COME TO COPPELL ISD, STAY WITH COPPELL ISD.

I THINK THAT'S THE BIG PIECE RIGHT THERE, BUT WE ARE LIMITED ONCE AGAIN, [OVERLAPPING] WHEN YOU LOOK AT SURROUNDING DAYCARES, MONTESSORI SCHOOLS, THINGS WHERE OTHER PARENTS MAY CHOOSE TO GO TO BECAUSE THEIR CHILD IS NOT MEETING THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA BASED ON THE STATE.

WE HAVEN'T OPENED OUR ARMS TO ALL.

ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE PAID HALF THE PRICE RIGHT NOW TOO PER STUDENT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR THE STATE.

THERE'S, ONCE AGAIN, COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF LOOKING AT THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS AND WEIGHING THOSE OPTIONS.

>> I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT DECREASING ENROLLMENT, OUR PROJECTIONS, AND STILL THE NEED OF PRE-K IN OUR COMMUNITY.

A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT, THAT CAN ALL COME TOGETHER.

MAYBE NOT IN PRE-K, BUT FIRST GRADE, I MEAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL YEARS.

>> THAT'S THE GOAL OF OUR MARKETING CAMPAIGN, IS THAT, IF THEY DIDN'T COME TO US IN PRE-K, WE WANT TO CAPTURE THEM BACK.

[OVERLAPPING] NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE, WE WANT THEM TO COME TO US FOR KINDERGARTEN OR FIRST GRADE.

WE WANT THEM BACK IN OUR CAMPUS.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TARGETING.

>> IS THE DECLINE IN KINDERGARTEN ENROLLMENT, IS THE DECLINE ENROLLMENT MADE UP FOR BY UPSWINGS? ANYTIME WE REDUCE, THEN WE ADD BACK IN SIXTH AND SEVENTH GRADE, OR ADD BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL.

DOES IT END UP EVENING OUT?

>> IT'S NOT COMPLETELY [OVERLAPPING]

>> NOT NECESSARILY. NO. LIKE BOB SHOWED US AT ONE OF THOSE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS,

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YOU ALWAYS LOOK AT YOUR SENIOR GRADUATING CLASS AND YOUR INCOMING KINDER AND WHEN THERE'S A BIG IMBALANCE, THEN YOU KNOW THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A FOCUS AREA.

WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE CONTINUING TO SHOWCASE THE GREAT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN CISD LIKE DR. BROOKS SAID, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE STILL MOVING HERE FOR OUR PROGRAMS, OR HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION, ALL OF THAT BUT PARENTS HAVE LOTS OF CHOICES, THEY HAVE A LOT OF CHOICES, ESPECIALLY IN OUR AREA.

WE JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW AND MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILY I BELIEVE THAT'S COPPELL ISD, AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IF YOU'VE NEVER STARTED HERE WHERE WE USUALLY HAVE A GOOD RETURN IS PARENTS THAT MIGHT START WITH US, GO SOMEPLACE ELSE BUT COME BACK TO US.

IF THEY DON'T EVER START WITH US, IT'S A HARDER WAY TO GET THEM BACK.

IT HAPPENS SOMETIMES, BUT IT IS MORE CHALLENGING.

>> MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE], AND THIS WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN WE HAVE BOB COME BACK.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A LITTLE HIDDEN CACHE OF KINDERGARTNERS THAT ARE SOMEWHERE.

THERE ARE SOME, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE NEED TO, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT HERE FOR ALL THOSE REASONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

I SIT ON THE STRINGFELLOW PRESCHOOL BOARD, AND WE'RE SEEING THE SAME EXACT THINGS.

I MEAN, THERE USED TO BE WAITING LISTS.

UPON WAITING LISTS, WELL, NOW THEIR CLASSES ARE FULL, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT THE LITTLE ONES HERE IN THE SAME WAY.

I APPLAUD THIS SO MUCH.

WE WANT, IF YOU MOVE HERE, I WANT YOU TO GO HERE, PERIOD.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE REALITY IS THERE ARE JUST FEWER LITTLE ONES.

THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

I THINK I'VE LEARNED FROM MY TIME ON THE BOARD, THERE IS NO MAGIC MEETING, THERE'S NO MAGIC BULLET, THERE IS NO MAGIC PILL.

I THINK I THOUGHT THAT WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME MEETING.

WE WERE GOING TO HASH IT ALL OUT.

WE WERE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

IT'S A PROCESS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID IS THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS.

THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SOME PRETTY OBVIOUS PAIN POINTS THAT WE KEEP COMING BACK TO.

I THINK ONE OF THOSE BIG ONES IS THAT WE HAVE MORE SPACE IN OUR NORTHERN ELEMENTARIES THAN WE HAVE KIDS FOR THAT PROBLEM, THAT PAIN POINT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

I THINK WHEN I TALK ABOUT A RAMP UP, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE AS A BOARD SHOULD MAYBE CREATE A TASK GROUP OR SOME MEMBER ON THESE ESSENTIAL QUESTIONS.

MR. CAR I LOVE THAT SLIDE 47, I THINK IT WAS.

OF THOSE THREE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, I WOULD LOVE FOR US, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, TO BRING IN A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS, OF PARENTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE NORTHERN ELEMENTARY LEVEL, TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS WITH US.

WHEN I TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND A SLOW RAMP UP, YES, THIS INFORMATION IS OUT THERE.

LET'S BRING ALONG THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT ALONGSIDE.

THE BIGGEST PAIN POINT I SEE IS THAT WE HAVE TOO MUCH ROOM IN OUR ELEMENTARY, THAT THOSE FACILITIES ARE NOT BEING USED EFFICIENTLY.

YOU GUYS CAN DISAGREE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I KEEP HEARING AND I DON'T WANT TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH WITH THAT.

I MEAN, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO BE INVOLVING OUR COMMUNITY IN.

I WOULD THROW THAT OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT Y'ALL THOUGHT.

>> I THINK IT'S A LINKING NEON SIGN.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE CONTINUING ON WITH THE MARKETING PIECE AND TAKING THAT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

BUT I 100% AGREE WITH YOU THAT WHEN WE START LOOKING AT OPERATING COST.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS JUST PAINFULLY, I'LL EMPHASIZE THE WORD PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME FRANK DISCUSSIONS ON, SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS?

>> I THINK IT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.

I THINK IT ALSO WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW IF THE MARKETING PLANS THAT YOU'RE ROLLING OUT WITH THE PRE CARE IS SUCCESSFUL, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT NUMBERS AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL LOOKED LIKE THIS YEAR WHERE WE EXPANDED OPEN ENROLLMENT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MAKE UP ALL THE SEATS.

I THINK WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE.

BUT WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE IF THESE THINGS ARE SUCCESSFUL SO THAT WE HAVE A RANGE FOR THE CONVERSATION AND NOT A SINGULAR BULLETED TARGETED NUMBER.

BECAUSE I DO THINK THE BUDGET IS BLACK AND WHITE AND A SINGULAR NUMBER.

BUT MOST OF THE REST OF THESE THINGS, STAFF, STUDENT RATIOS, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, THERE'S A BANDWIDTH THAT WE SHOULD BE OPERATING IN OPTIMALLY IN A LOT OF THESE SCENARIOS,

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AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT BAND IS AND NOT THINK THAT THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE A SINGULAR NUMBER, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ANSWER.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD HELP THAT THEY ARE BEING SUCCESSFUL, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL, MAYBE OPEN ENROLLMENT WAS MOSTLY SECONDARY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD HELP INFORM THE CONVERSATION.

I DO THINK WE NEED TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY, THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT.

CANDIDLY AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT, NOT A POPULAR VOTE HERE AND THERE WITH THE NUMBER, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITH THE BUDGET, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A SINGULAR ACTION.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN IN THIS COMMUNITY WOULD CHOOSE IF THEY WERE THE ONES MAKING THE DECISION.

I THINK THINKING WE'RE GOING TO FIND A MAGIC ANSWER THAT EVERYBODY SIGNS UP FOR AND IS HAPPY ABOUT IS PROBABLY NOT LIKELY GIVEN WHAT WE'RE FACING.

THAT'S JUST AN UNFORTUNATE REALITY.

>> I DO WONDER WHAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHO WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE, EVERY DECISION ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I WONDER WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IS THROUGH TASK FORCE OR THROUGH SERVICE.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT DIFFICULT DECISION.

WE KNOW THE KIND OF E MAILS, THE UNKIND WORDS AND OTHER THINGS THAT COMES, AND OUR BOND COMMITTEE SAW SOME OF THAT.

I DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF STUFF GOING TO CERTAIN PEOPLE.

ALSO COMES TO A QUESTION.

SUCH A BIG DECISION SHOULDN'T BE REPRESENTED BY JUST FEW HANDPICKED COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

IT NEEDS TO BE AT LARGE, IT COULD BE A MIX OF BOTH.

I'M NOT AT A POINT WHERE I HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER AND THIS IS WHERE I WOULD BE LOOKING FROM THE STAFF.

A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION OF HOW THEY WOULD WANT TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE GET A BROAD SPECTRUM INPUT RATHER THAN VOICE OF DOZEN PEOPLE.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT BOND STEERING COMMITTEE.

THOSE INDIVIDUALS DIDN'T SIGN UP TO GET THE BARRAGE OF HATEFUL THREATENING EMAILS THAT MADE SOME OF THEM AFRAID TO EVEN COME TO A MEETING.

THAT IS SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO REPLICATE.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE PASSION AND TENACITY THAT THESE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS BRING OUT IN PEOPLE.

I KNOW THAT ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, AND ANGELA ALLUDED TO WAS ARE LOOKING AT OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN AND KIND OF THINGS LIKE WE DID FOR THE BOND PRESENTATIONS LAST YEAR.

HAVING A SPACE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT IS KIND OF THE HUB OF ALL THINGS RELATED TO OUR BUDGETARY CHALLENGES AND OUR PLAN.

IN THE INTERIM, YOU CAN ALWAYS USE INPUT, A COPPELL ISD TO PROVIDE INPUT.

I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING INPUT ON YET, SO WE GOT TO GIVE THEM SOME AREAS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK.

BUT WE PLAN ON SENDING SOMETHING OUT AFTER THIS MEETING TO DRIVE EVERYBODY TO THIS RECORDING SO THAT PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WATCH OR HAVEN'T PLUGGED IN ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT YOU HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO ON THAT LIST.

I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> WE'RE GOING TO DO A VIDEO ALSO, THIS VIDEO THIS WEEK, TO SHARE IT OUT, AND I THINK AFTER EACH OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, IT'LL BE IMPORTANT THAT WE QUICKLY GET OUT WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION OF THE MEETING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN READ IT, UNDERSTAND IT, AND GO BACK AND WATCH.

THEN WE'LL DO A SHORT VIDEO TO CAPTURE AGAIN, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.

WE WILL GET THAT OUT THIS WEEK AS WELL AND THEN CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO INVOLVE OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS CONVERSATION.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MULTIPLE LAYERS OF THINGS, OF INFORMATION THAT'S COMING IN OR TO BE COMING IN.

WE'VE GOT THE STRATEGIC DESIGN COMMITTEE, WE GOT THIS INFORMATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US NOW ABOUT THE SCENARIOS AND WHICH ONE WE'RE ALL SEEM.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, BUT IT REQUIRES ACTION QUICKLY.

THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE INTERPLAYING, BUT WE HAVE A VERY TRUNCATED TIME TO IMPLEMENT THEM, TO GET THE KIND OF TRANSPARENCY THAT WE WANT AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THAT WE WANT WITH FOLKS.

THE ONE THING I WAS LOOKING AT, THESE BOARD BUDGET PRIORITIES, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT THOSE BEFORE WE SAW THE SCENARIOS, AND ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK IS IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN AND SEE, GIVEN D, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE OR ADD TO THAT AS A BOARD OR MODIFY IN ANY WAY AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD.

>> WHEN WE MADE THOSE PRIORITIES, IN MY MEMORY, WE DID KEEP THE SCENARIO AS A POSSIBILITY.

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>> A MEETING TO CUT COST?

>> YES.

>> WAS PART OF THE CONTEXT.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THE CONTEXT OF MAKING THOSE PRIORITIES WERE WHAT IF WE COME IN A SCENARIO WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THOSE PRIORITIES WERE MADE FOR A SITUATION LIKE WE ARE IN.

BUT AGAIN, IF THE BOARD AGREES OR WANTS TO REVISIT THEN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO RECOLLECT THAT WE WENT INTO MAKING A NEW PRIORITY PROCESS CONSIDERING THE SCENARIO WE ARE IN.

>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ON EXCESS CAPACITY BECAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME.

I CAME IN AT THE BACK END OF THAT, I WAS A LITTLE FRONT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

THOSE CONVERSATIONS, TO YOUR POINT, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EMAILS YET.

IT GETS SOME THINGS YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT'S A WHOLE.

AND I DON'T MEAN THAT TO BE FUNNY.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IT IS AN EMOTIONAL THING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TOPIC.

EXCESS CAPACITY, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL AND COMPREHENSIVE OF HOW THAT IS LAID OUT.

IT IS NOT A THING YOU LAY OUT.

SAY HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? THAT'S A FREE FOR ALL. IT HAS TO BE VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND COMPREHENSIVE AND CONCLUSIVE WITH A CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHY YOU WOULD BE TAKING THIS PARTICULAR SET OF ACTIONS.

SECOND PART OF THAT IS I THINK WE TALK ABOUT RANGE.

AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU AND TRUSTEE LEE, BECAUSE JUST TO SAY D, IS IT I THINK IT'S MORE OF A C, D CONVERSATION, NOT A D CONVERSATION.

BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS.

IT IS NOT A SINGLE ACTIONS PROCESS.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF IN CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS.

IT'S MULTI-STEP WITH INTENTIONAL ACTIONS THAT GET YOU TO AN OUTCOME THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH.

I THINK THAT IS THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND MINDFUL IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO RIP THE BAND-AID OFF AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SINGLE SOLUTION. THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET THERE.

THE LAST PART OF MY COMMENT ON THIS ONE IS, THESE THINGS WILL GET YOU PART OF THE WAY.

EVENTUALLY THE STATE HAS TO PROVIDE FUNDING IN ORDER FOR THE DISTRICT TO SURVIVE.

I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS LIKE, HEY, WE CAN DO THESE THINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY.

NO, IT IS GETTING US TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN SURVIVE AND PROVIDE THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT THAT WE NEED THAT A COMMUNITY WANTS.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE STATE HAS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, NOT ONLY COMPEL ISD, BUT ALL PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> ABSOLUTELY. AND NOW I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT POINT, MISS EVENTUALLY I LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT OUR STATE LEGISLATORS WILL GIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION ITS DUE FUNDING.

BUT WE KNOW NOW THAT WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT SITUATIONS BEFORE THAT FUNDING COMES.

THAT ALSO BRINGS UP THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THE CUTS, WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF WHAT WE HAVE BUILT OVER DECADES, WHAT WE'VE BUILT OVER YEARS, THAT WE DON'T CUT ANYTHING.

THAT AFTER TWO YEARS, WHEN THE FUNDING COMES, WE ARE HAVING TO REBUILD FROM SCRATCH.

IT'S A MULTI-STEP PROCESS, AS YOU SAID, IT WILL NEED A LOT OF CONSIDERATION AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHAT COMMITTEE HAS SET US UP FOR.

WE'LL KEEP ON TAKING COMMUNITY INPUT, BUT THESE ARE SOME REALLY TOUGH DECISIONS.

AGAIN, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR THOSE IDEAS OF HOW TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT IF THERE IS ANY EMOTIONAL HURT THAT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ACTED TOWARDS US AND NOT TO THE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

>> YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE TASK FORCE, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT SURVEYS AS YOU MENTIONED.

WE HAVE INPUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THOSE.

BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN IF WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY MONEY FROM THE STATE, I DON'T.

THIS TO ME IS ALL A PART OF THE PLAN TO BREAK DOWN PUBLIC EDUCATION.

AND IT'S HAPPENING, AND IT'S NOT JUST HERE, IT'S HAPPENING IN ALL THE DISTRICTS AROUND US.

AND WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC, I'M NOT A PESSIMIST, BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.

WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT AND FEARS ABOUT IT, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO DESTROY WHAT WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO BUILD.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC TOO.

THE SKY ISN'T FALLING, BUT IT'S NOT BRIGHT AND SUNNY EITHER.

SO WE HAVE TO REALLY BE THOUGHTFUL AND STRATEGIC.

WE CAN DO SOME THINGS THIS YEAR AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

YOU HAD MENTIONED 10% OF BUDGETS. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ATTRITION FOR STAFF.

IF YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO A RIP, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING.

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BUT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN, WHERE WE CAN TIGHTEN OUR BELT A BIT, WE CAN LOOK AGAIN AT OPERATING COST AND OTHER KINDS OF WAYS TO SAVE SOME MONEY.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMETHING MORE TO REALLY GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

>> I THINK I'M CURIOUS TOO, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT 7-8 JUMP AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT LOOKS LIKE IN THAT SPACE TOO.

AND THEN I DON'T WANT TO SAY THIS LIKE A WORD, BUT HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT DOING ANOTHER TRE? IS THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE I KNOW Y'ALL ARE TAKING DEEP BREATHS. [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S VERY APPROPRIATE TO BRING UP BECAUSE IT CAN BENEFIT US, BUT ALSO DOESN'T REALLY TAKE CARE OF A LONG TERM.

BUT I KNOW DIANA DID SOME SCENARIOS ON THAT.

AND WHILE SHE'S LOOKING FOR THAT, I JUST ALSO WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR TO THE COMMUNITY, THOSE A, B,C, D WERE JUST TENTATIVE IDEAS TOSSED AROUND.

I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL LATCH ONTO ONE THING AND THEN DECIDE THAT THE BOARD HAS MADE A DECISION.

THE ONLY ACTION YOU TOOK TONIGHT WAS ON THE BOND FOR THE CONCRETE THAT IS ALL.

WE'RE JUST GAINING INPUT RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR ON THAT.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE LAST THING, MY HEAD SPACE, BUT I'M TRYING NOT TO HAVE RIGID THINKING.

MY HEAD SPACE THIS MORNING IS LIKE SO RELATED TO THIS.

WHICH IT WAS PEOPLE WITH MUCH UNCERTAINTY IS TERRIFYING TO US AS HUMANS, PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE A NEGATIVE SITUATION, A NEGATIVE OUTCOME THAT THEY KNOW 100% THAN HAVE IT BE UNCERTAIN.

AND SO JUST AS WE OPERATE IN THAT KIND OF PSYCHOLOGICAL SPACE, I THINK WE'RE IN THAT SPACE OF LIKE, HOW IS THIS MONEY HAPPENING AND ET CETERA.

BUT I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT ALL OUR KIND OF GRAY AREA, IT IS A DIFFICULT PLACE FOR US AS HUMANS, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR KIDS AND CHILDREN TO BE AND JUST TO SURFACE THAT AND SAY THAT OUT LOUD BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THESE ARE VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

I REMEMBER WITH THE KINDERGARTNER BEING IN HERE WITH THE PINKERTON LEE CONVERSATION.

I MEAN, I REMEMBER THINKING ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

I KNOW THAT THESE AREN'T EASY, BUT IT'S ONE THING TO SAY WE HAVE HARD DECISIONS COMING.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY PUT INTO ACTION IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS STUFF.

I DON'T WANT TO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, HIM AND HER, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NOT A BAD DECISION.

YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE TAKEN THESE TWO YEARS, TO YOUR POINT TO THEN END UP IN A PLACE WITHOUT HAVE DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE PROCESS, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> JUSSIE WALKER, I WANTED TO LEAN ON THAT BECAUSE I WAS A PART OF A TRE, IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

IT WAS STEPPING OUT ON FAITH AND DOING THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AND OTHER DISTRICTS DIDN'T DO THAT.

AND THEN THEY CAME BACK LATER AND SAID, I WISH WE HAD DONE THAT SOONER.

AND SO DOING EVADER IS A VIABLE OPTION IN RELATIONSHIP TO ALL OTHER THINGS BEING DISCUSSED AROUND THE TABLE.

AND OTHER DISTRICTS AROUND THE NORTH TEXAS AREA HAVE DONE THOSE AND AROUND THE STATE HAVE DONE THOSE AS WELL.

SOME ARE SUCCESS BUT NOT SUCCESSFUL.

BUT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE IT WEIGHS ALL OPTIONS, NOT JUST THE THINGS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT.

EXPENSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CUT YOUR WAY TO SUCCESS.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO DO A VARIETY OF THINGS IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT SWEET SPOT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL YOU GET RELIEF.

GOING BACK TO MY COMMENT ABOUT THE STATE THEY WILL HAVE TO FUND AT SOME POINT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THINK ABOUT THE MANDATES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS HAVE GONE UP DRIVING UP THE NEED TO BE COMPLIANT.

YOU CAN'T BE COMPLIANT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US THE MONEY IN ORDER TO BE COMPLIANT.

THINK ABOUT PRE K, WE TALKED ABOUT PRE K. WELL, YOU CAN'T INCREASE PRE K WITHOUT THE RISK OF DRIVING UP MORE EXPENSE.

BECAUSE YOU ONLY GET 50% ON ONE.

SO AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO DO A COMBINATION OF THINGS TO GET THERE AND STILL COME OUT ON TOP AND BE A PLACE OF CHOICE.

>> SO WE ALREADY HAVE OUR GOLDEN PENNIES.

THIS WOULD BE THE BRONZE.

>> ALL THE GOLDEN PENNIES.

AND WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE COPPER PENNIES.

WE HAVE 3.17 COPPER PENNIES REMAINING, WHICH WOULD GENERATE A LITTLE BIT OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE.

COPPER PENNIES DO GET COMPRESSED WITH AN INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.

THAT'S WHAT'S WRITTEN INTO THE LAW RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THIS GOOFY LITTLE RATIO HERE.

BUT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF DISTRICTS IN OUR AREA HAVE GONE OUT TO GET ALL OF THEIR PENNIES.

PRIOR TO THIS, WE HAD A FORMULA TRANSITION GRANT BASED ON HOUSE BILL 3 FROM 2019.

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AND SO HAD WE GONE OUT FOR A TRE PRIOR TO THIS, WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN LESS IN THE FORMULA TRANSITION GRANT.

THIS WOULD BE TRUE REVENUE TO THE DISTRICT.

>> I AGREE, BRAD, THAT THE SKY IS NOT FALLING BUT WE ARE SITTING HERE IN FRONT OF A BOWL OF GARMENTS.

>> IT'S CLOUDY. I MEAN, THAT IS VERY, VERY CLOUDY.

>> HERE WITH THE BOWL OF GARMENTS AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE LEMONADE OUT OF IT.

BUT I DO THINK TWO THINGS THAT WE COULD GAIN OUT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

THEIR INPUT, THEIR THOUGHTS, THEIR IDEAS.

IT WOULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHY WOULD WE CONSIDER DOING A TRE? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY? I THINK THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT IT CREATES IS ENGAGEMENT IN A POSITIVE WAY.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS, HERE'S WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

THE ANSWER IS ENGAGED WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

THE ANSWER IS, RAISE YOUR HAND, MAKE A PHONE CALL, REACH OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A COP HEAL THING, THIS PUBLIC ED THING STATEWIDE.

AND I THINK THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IF BOARD MEMBERS ARE THERE, TO LEAN INTO SPACES THAT STAFF CANNOT APPROPRIATELY OR LEGALLY.

IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE ANOTHER ANSWER IS LIKE TO GET BUSY.

AND I MEAN, FRANKLY, JUST RAISE SOME HELL UNTIL THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND BE READY AS A COMMUNITY TO TAKE ACTION AND PROTECT THE REASONS WHY WE MOVED HERE.

AND PROTECT THE THINGS THAT WE VALUE AND THE THINGS THAT WE CARE ABOUT.

AND THAT IS AN AREA, FRANKLY, WHERE WE HAVE STRUGGLED TO BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THINGS HAVE FELT LIKE WE WERE A LITTLE INSULATED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND HERE'S THE REALITY.

IT TOOK A WHILE TO HIT US.

ALL OF US AROUND THIS TABLE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO.

BUT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IF WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN PERSON IN MEANINGFUL WAYS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHY TRE MIGHT MAKE SENSE AND WHY WE DIDN'T DO ONE BEFORE SINCE THE LAST ONE, AND WHAT CAN YOU DO IN THE MEANTIME? MAKE SOME NOISE SO THAT WE GET THE FUNDING.

THAT AT LEAST THE MANDATES ARE BEING FUNDED AND NOT COMING OUT OF DOLLARS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING INTO THE CLASSROOM FOR DECADES.

I THINK THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE COULD BE SEEKING INFORMATION, BUT ALSO A GREAT WAY FOR US TO ENLIST AND ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT WE JUST PREVIOUSLY HAVEN'T HAD TO.

>> IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BECAUSE I WANT TO REVISIT WHAT JOB HAD SAID NOW THAT YOU'VE SEEN ALL THIS AND I THINK HE SHOULD RESPONDED TO IT TOO.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD OR CHANGE TO YOUR PRIORITIES AND I BELIEVE YOU WERE NOT ON THE BOARD YET WHEN THIS WAS ESTABLISHED, SO I WANT TO BE FAIR TO YOU TOO.

BUT AGAIN, KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, ANY CHANGES OR UPDATES TO YOUR PRIORITIES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED PREVIOUSLY.

>> AS CONVERSATION HAS GONE ON.

ANTHONY, TO YOUR POINT, SHOULD BE MORE FORMAL, TRUSTY HILL AS YOUR ASS THROW UP FIRST NAMES ALL OVER THE PLACE TO YOUR POINT ON RANGES.

WE HAVE THE OPTIONS ABC AND D AREN'T LIKE THE OPTIONS.

THERE'S JUST THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

STAYING TRUE TO THE RANGE IS STAYING TRUE TO THE PRIORITIES THAT WE KIND OF LAID OUT NOW.

WHICH IS, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THESE BULLET POINTS HELP US BE WHO WE ARE.

BY INVESTING IN OUR EDUCATORS AND STAYING TRUE TO OUR CORE VALUES OF WHO WE ARE WITH OUR CURRENT SITUATION.

HELP US GET THERE, BUT ALSO HELP US EVALUATE WHAT WE NEED TO DO FACING THE REALITIES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US.

MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT JUST BECAUSE YEAH.

MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT I THINK, ANGEL, YOU WERE SAYING BEFORE ABOUT THE HOME IDEA OF IT AS WITH KIDS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT IS HOME TO THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.

WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TOO, ABOUT TOUCHING ON ANYTIME YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING A SCHOOL, CHANGING A PROGRAM, SOMETHING THAT YOUR KIDS FOUND THEIR IDENTITY IN.

I UNDERSTAND, I GET IT 100% I THINK EVERYBODY AROUND THIS TABLE, EVERYBODY'S SITTING HERE GETS IT.

THESE ARE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE.

FOR A LARGE PORTION, IT'S BEEN THRUST UPON US, OUR LEGISLATURE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR US.

I JUST WANT THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS TABLE TO KNOW THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND LIKE THE GRAVITY AND THE WEIGHT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE INVOLVED AND UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

IT'S LIKE HAVING TO MOVE FROM YOUR CHILDHOOD HOME.

THIS IS WHERE YOU MARKED THE WALL WHEN YOU GOT TALL AND THIS IS WHERE THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU.

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BUT YET SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO MAKE A DECISION.

DO I ADD A ROOM OR DO I GO OUT AND FIND ANOTHER PLACE.

BUT THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE ALL HAD TO HAVE IN OUR LIVES AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE SMART CONVERSATIONS AND TRY TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO STAY TRUE TO OUR VALUES.

>> I WOULD JUST NAME AND SURFACE THAT I THINK WE'RE IN THE STATE OF THE DISTRICT IS SO INCREDIBLY STRONG WITH TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY AND BUY IN TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABOUT FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS AND OUR BOND PASSING WITH SUCH SUCCESS AND THE BUY IN THAT WE HAVE.

I WOULD JUST URGE, I THINK AS WE ALL, LIKE YOU SAID SO WELL, THAT WE CONTINUE TO WALK HAND IN HAND ON THE PATH THAT WE'RE ALREADY ON.

WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH.

OUR COMMUNITY TRUST US AND BELIEVES IN US, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE'RE THE ONES WHO ARE ELECTED.

WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO VOTE AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOWEVER IT TURNS OUT, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO SAY OUT LOUD THAT GIVE US 100% ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS IT IS.

I WOULD JUST STAY THE COURSE WITH THAT.

TO YOUR POINT, SO APPRECIATIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR FUNDING US WITH OUR BONDS AND I MEAN, ALL THE STUFF THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO, I THINK WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS VERY MUCH SO.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO COME ACROSS IN ANY WAY DIFFERENTLY.

I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE AS WE COME INTO A BUMPY WAVY PART TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT FRONT OF MINE.

>> OUR NEXT MEETING IS OUR WORKSHOP IS THE EIGHTH.

>> JUST SO I'M CLEAR.

>> YEAH.

>> PRIORITIES ARE STILL GOOD? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. NO, I THINK, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE, SO YES.

>> THANK YOU, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> DIANA, HAVE YOU GATHERED WHAT YOU NEED TO START FORMULATING A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, OR DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US?

>> I THINK REALLY, SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS COME TO THE BOARD WITH IS WHAT TYPE OF COST OF LIVING INCREASE THE BOARD WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

NOW, IF YOU'D LIKE US TO BRING SCENARIOS TO YOU, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

>> COULD YOU TELL US WHAT'S THE SCUTTLE BUT OF THE ISD'S AROUND US? WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES IN THIS SITUATION.

>> YEAH. IT'S A LITTLE BIT REALLY.

>> VOTED.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT ARE WE HEARING RUMORS? RANGES?

>> YEAH. IT'S A LITTLE EARLY.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED TO SOME OF OUR COMPADRES AND OUR COMPANION, WHATEVER THE TERM IS, [LAUGHTER] COWORKERS, FRIENDS, AND OTHER DISTRICTS AND IT'S ANYWHERE FROM NOTHING TO THREE.

I MEAN, LAST YEAR WAS THE BIG YEAR FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING OVER THREE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, KRISTEN, IT'S EARLY, BUT ALSO THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT CONSIDERING IT AT ALL BECAUSE THEY'RE IN NOT MUCH DIFFERENT.

BUT THERE JUST SITUATION MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM OURS.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT MORE TONIGHT OR BRING BACK TO YOU, WOULD WE KNOW MORE?

>> I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU WERE HEARING.

PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T GO BIG LAST YEAR, WE WERE GENEROUS, BUT WE WERE ON PURPOSE, NOT BIG BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS USED OR MONEY THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE FUNDED AGAIN AND IT WASN'T A SUSTAINABLE DECISION.

I FEEL LIKE WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT DOING SOMETHING AS SUSTAINABLE AS POSSIBLE.

I'M JUST HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT THIS.

>> FOR ME PERSONALLY, I REALLY LIKE WHEN YOU BRING CHOICES TO US LIKE TODAY, YOU BROUGHT DIFFERENT CHOICES FOR US TO THIS OPENS UP CONVERSATION AND WE CAN COME UP WITH MORE HOLISTIC.

>> WE ALREADY DID THREE ON THE SCENARIOS, DIDN'T WE?

>> I DID I PUT THAT.

>> YEAH.

>> BECAUSE THAT IS [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I THINK WE LOOK AT THOSE SCENARIOS YOU PRESENTED, THOSE WERE BUILT ON THREE.

I LIKE TO YOUR POINT, I'D LIKE TO SEE A VARIANCE FROM THAT.

BUT I MEAN, I GOT FROM WHAT WE WERE SAYING, WHAT YOU GUYS WERE SAYING.

C AND D TENDS TO BE PROBABLY RISING TO THE CREAM OF THE CROP IN RISING TO THE TOP IN TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT'S PALATABLE FOR US TO WORK TOWARDS IT.

>> IT'S NOT EITHER. A TRUST HILLSIDE WILL COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN BETWEEN INVOLVING A LITTLE BIT OF IT'S A STARTING POINT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] NARROWLY DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO THINK THAT WE'VE LANDED ON ONE SCENARIO SO VERY FLUID.

>> THE ONLY THING WE'RE LANDING ON IS WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DEEPER DISCUSSION.

>> THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE PIECE OF INFORMATION. I THINK WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WHICH IS THAT PROGRAMS WHAT WE HAVE, HOW MUCH THEY COST, THE ENROLLMENT UTILIZATION.

>> BE SURE.

>> THAT STUFF. [INAUDIBLE]

>> YEAH.

>> IF YOU HAVE THAT LAYER, THEN YOU HAVE

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THE TREATY DESIGN COMMITTEE AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

THEN EVERYTHING'S PIECING TOGETHER, THEN WE CAN HAVE A FULL PICTURE ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO. YES.

>> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH JOB I THINK FOR ME LIKE THE UTILIZATION ON A PROGRAM FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF THAT PROGRAM WENT AWAY.

WHERE ARE OTHER PLACES THAT KIDS COULD PLUG IN IF THAT PROGRAM WENT AWAY? BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIG THING IN THE ROOM.

WE WANT EVERY KID TO HAVE A PLACE TO PLUG IN.

WHAT WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD SUGGEST TO THOSE FAMILIES IF SOMETHING DID GO AWAY THAT WE WOULD KEEP.

IF X WENT AWAY, WE KNEW WE WOULD KEEP Y AND THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD DIRECT FAMILIES FOR INSTANCE.

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE PIECE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED.

>> I'D LIKE TO ALSO INCLUDE IN THE CONVERSATION.

REQUIRED THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO BY LAW.

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> VERSUS DISCRETIONARY THINGS THAT WE DO BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

BECAUSE IF WE START CUTTING INTO THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO BY LAW, THAT'S NOT GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

>> YEAH.

>> WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW DO YOU DELIVER THOSE SERVICES IN A PALATABLE WAY, EVEN WITH THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK IT'S JUST ANOTHER LAYER IN THIS CONVERSATION.

>> JUST BEING TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY OF IF SOME THINGS HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED, SOME PROGRAMS HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED.

WHY OTHER PROGRAMS CANNOT BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRED BY THE LAW.

>> KRISTEN, HAVE A COMMENT?

>> I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT STAFF AND POTENTIAL CUTS.

THE END OF APRIL IS WHEN WE BRING CONTRACTS TO YOU.

WELL, WE START ACTUALLY IN MARCH WITH ADMINISTRATOR CONTRACTS AND THEN APRIL.

ONCE WE BRING THOSE, WE'RE LOCKED INTO CERTAIN MOVEMENTS THAT CAN OR CAN'T BE MADE AND CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS INDIVIDUALS ARE WORKING.

PART OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY AND IT WASN'T A DECISION, HAD SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT STAFFING CUTS.

SOMETHING LIKE A $5 MILLION STAFFING CUT FOR A YEAR WOULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE SOME CONTRACTS AND LENGTHS OF WORK CALENDARS FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT MAYBE HAVE DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS OR DIFFERENT ABILITIES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT.

WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK THROUGH ATTRITION.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR STAFFING NUMBERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT AS STUDENTS ARE ENROLLING.

MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HOLDING TIGHT TO A MINIMUM NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE IN EACH CLASS PERIOD FOR A CLASS TO MAKE AND THOSE STAFFING PIECES, SOME POSITIONS AS THEY'RE VACATED THAT AREN'T MAYBE DIRECTLY TIED TO A CLASSROOM.

WE'D HAVE AN EASIER WAY TO PUSH PAUSE BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE GETTING READY TO RAMP UP FOR HIRING SPECIFICALLY OF TEACHERS.

WE CONTINUE TO BE IN A VERY COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT.

IF WE THINK WE WANT TO MOVE SOME PEOPLE INTO CLASSROOMS AND NOT DO THAT HIRING, I WOULD REALLY NEED TO KNOW THAT'S A DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED TONIGHT.

BUT VERY MUCH BEFORE APRIL 8, OUR JOB FAIR IS APRIL 6.

THAT'S TWO DAYS BEFORE OUR NEXT BOT WORKSHOPS.

FOR ME, I THINK THIS IS WHERE I HAVE TO LEAN ON YOUR EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE ON SOME OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S DATA THAT WE DON'T HAVE PERIOD, AND AND YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE THOSE MOVING PIECES ARE AND WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE IN TERMS OF DELIVERING OUR SERVICES AND MAINTAINING OUR QUALITY OF SERVICE, NOT DIMINISHING OUR PRODUCT THAT WE'RE KNOWN FOR.

I THINK WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE FURTHERING THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH, AND SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK, FOR ME, I'VE GOT TO HAVE THE FAITH THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO, ALONG THOSE LINES, THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT CONTINUE MAKING THOSE OPERATIONAL CUTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO BRING THINGS IN ALIGNMENT.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY [OVERLAPPING].

I WILL PIGGYBACK ON YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THE STATE WORKING ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE CABINET.

BUT TO THAT POINT IS, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO START MAKING SOME OTHER THINGS HAPPEN IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL SIMULTANEOUSLY.

SO IT'S NOT TRYING TO CUT IT OFF AT THE KNEES, BUT JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT, YEAH, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO STRATEGICALLY THAT'S ALIGNED WITH ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING COLLECTIVELY SO IT DOESN'T BREAK IT.

I THINK THAT'S THE THING. WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE BREAKAGE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CREATE A NEW PARADIGM SHIFT OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AS WELL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE STUDENT OUTCOMES PIECE?

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BEFORE WE DO, I JUST WANT TO, WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, SEVERAL TIMES BUT REEMPHASIZE TO THE COMMUNITY, THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS AND THEY'RE STARTING TO GET ONTO SOME UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT THEY'RE NOT DIRECTIONS AND WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME.

AS YOU TAKE SNIPPETS FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS, JUST BE MINDFUL THAT THEY'RE IDEAS AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE TRANSPARENT CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE I THINK PUBLICLY AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION IS.

BUT TO Y'ALL'S POINT, THE HOUSE ISN'T BURNING DOWN AND THERE'S NO BIG THUNDERSTORMS OUTSIDE YET.

BUT THE CLOUDS ARE ROLLING IN AND WE'VE GOT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

JUST REMEMBER COMMUNITY-WISE, WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS HERE, BUT WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO OR THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TOWARDS, AND ELIMINATE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO.

THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS DISCUSSION.

DR. BROOKS.

[VIII.B. Goals/Data Updates - Dr. Angie Brooks (Assistant Superintendent for Curriculum and Instruction) (SPPG1) (SLP) (SR)]

ALL RIGHT, GUYS. WE'RE GOING TO GO KIND OF SPEEDY THROUGH MY SLIDES. SO THERE WE ARE.

BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME, I'M LIKE, YEAH, WE GOT THIS BY 8:30.

I'M FEELING GOOD ABOUT THAT. [LAUGHTER].

WE HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN YOU TOO.

THAT'S RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] THESE SPECIFIC SLIDES HERE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON OUR SUPERINTENDENT PRIORITY GOAL NUMBER 1 AND THEN ALSO TO OUR SEA BASS COLORS FOR STUDENT READINESS AND STUDENT LEARNING AND PROGRESS.

AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PIECES HERE, I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH TRUSTEE BENTLEY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, NICOLE.

GETTING TO SIT DOWN. BLESS YOU, DEAR.

JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE ARE WE WITH OUR HOUSE BILL 3 GOALS, WHERE WERE WE IN THE PAST? FOR SOME OF YOU THAT WEREN'T ON THE BOARD YET, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BACK IN TIME PIECE FOR YOU TO SEE WHEN HOUSE BILL 3 WAS ACTUALLY REQUIRED FOR US SETTING SOME SPECIFIC SCHOOL BOARD GOALS THAT WERE TIED TO, ONCE AGAIN, LOOKING AT STUDENT OUTCOMES, AND IT HAD A BIG FOCUS ON, ONCE AGAIN, THE EARLY FOCUS AS FAR AS EARLY INTERVENTION, AND THEY WERE ONCE AGAIN UTILIZING THEIR STANDARDIZED TESTING MEASURES OF STAAR TESTING, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY YOUR READING AND YOUR MATH GOALS, LOOKING AT THIRD GRADE FOR THAT.

ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT HAD TO TIE WITH CCMR WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT YOUR CAREER COLLEGE AND MILITARY READINESS, AND A GOAL SPECIFICALLY TIED TO SOMETHING WITHIN THAT REALM.

CERTIFICATIONS IS A BIG THING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE CHOSE WITHIN THAT.

THAT STARTED FIVE YEARS AGO, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A VERY LONG TIME NOW WITHIN THAT.

BUT AS YOU WILL RECALL, THE PANDEMIC OF SPRING 2020 THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH.

BUT FOR THE '19-'20 SCHOOL YEAR, THERE WAS NO STAAR ASSESSMENT THAT HAPPENED, SO WE WERE NOT NECESSARILY RATED THAT YEAR.

IN 2021, THAT WAS OUR LOVELY YEAR.

ONCE AGAIN, LITTLE PTSD HERE, A VIRTUAL AND FACE TO FACE INSTRUCTION.

WE DID HAVE A STAAR ASSESSMENT THAT YEAR, BUT YOU'LL ALSO RECALL THAT SOME OF OUR FAMILIES CHOSE MAYBE NOT FOR THEIR LEARNERS TO COME IN AND TAKE THAT PARTICULAR STAAR ASSESSMENT, SO WE WERE NOT RATED AGAIN ON THAT YEAR.

'21-'22, FOR THE FIRST NINE WEEKS, I JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THAT VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION WAS ALSO OFFERED FOR PRE K THROUGH SIXTH GRADE IN COPPELL ISD, NOT NECESSARILY IN EVERY DISTRICT ACROSS THE STATE.

THERE WAS A STAAR ASSESSMENT AND WE WERE RATED.

THEN THE '22-'23, THERE WAS A NEW STAAR ASSESSMENT BECAUSE THE STATE DECIDED THAT, HEY, WHY NOT, LET'S THROW A COUPLE OTHER THINGS OUT THERE AT YOU.

SO THEY CREATED AND REVAMPED THE WAY THAT THE STAAR ASSESSMENT WAS ACTUALLY COMING FOR OUR KIDS.

WE ARE STILL WAITING RIGHT NOW, AS YOU ARE VERY WELL AWARE, ON THE FULL ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE FROM THE STATE.

WE DID, OF COURSE, RECEIVE OUR PASS AND FAILURES AS FAR AS FOR OUR KIDDOS, BUT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT.

FOR '23-'24, WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE PREPARING FOR HOUSE BILL 3 SCHOOL BOARD GOALS FROM THE STATE, TALKING ABOUT WHERE HAVE WE BEEN ONCE AGAIN, AND THEN WHERE ARE WE GOING, WHAT ARE OUR PAST, AND WHAT ARE OUR PRESENT NEEDS FOR LEARNERS.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD AND COMMUNITY THAT WHEN MARY KENNINGTON AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING GIVES OUR TAPER REPORT OR THE STAAR AND OTHER COMPONENTS OF STAAR, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO REALLY SHARE THOSE PIECES BECAUSE LIKE ANGIE JUST SAID, WE NEVER REALLY GOT THAT FROM THE STATE.

SO WE'LL HAVE COMPONENTS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE'LL BE PIECES THERE THAT ARE MISSING.

EVEN ON THIS RIGHT NOW FOR HOUSE BILL 3, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME OF THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO, WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO AS A SCHOOL BOARD FOR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SET SPECIFIC GOALS AROUND THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S GOING TO MIRROR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE LOOKING AT THAT EARLY INTERVENTION AND, OF COURSE, THE CCMR. BUT IT IS NOT SET IN STONE YET NOR PUBLISHED OUT THERE, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN CHECKING DAILY.

THERE'S A LINK JUST WITHIN THERE JUST A REMINDER OF

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OUR CURRENT GOALS THAT WE HAD FROM 2019-2020.

ONCE AGAIN, TRUSTEE BENTLEY HAS ALSO RECEIVED SOME SPECIFIC TRAINING. TELL ME AGAIN.

THE TRAINING WE'RE ALL REQUIRED TO HAVE.

I'M CERTIFIED WITH TEA, AND I'M ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK HAVE A TRAINING TO GET THE UPDATE. IT GOT DELAYED.

AWESOME.

SO SUPPOSEDLY, WE'LL HAVE AN INSIDE VIEW ON WHAT THE NEW ISO REQUIREMENTS ARE, WHICH TIED TO SCHOOL WORK GOALS.

PERFECT. VERY GOOD. SO WE APPRECIATE JUST THAT INSIGHT AND THAT WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF US AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

WE ARE GOING TO BE SETTING UP SOME INDIVIDUAL AND SMALL GROUP DATA REVIEWS WITH EACH OF YOU AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH MARCH AND THROUGH APRIL.

SOMETIMES WITHIN SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DATA PIECES, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT WE DO COLLECT AS A DISTRICT, BUT WE THOUGHT SOME INDIVIDUALIZED DISCUSSION, BUT MORE SO OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO REALLY DIG IN AND ASK SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.

AS WELL AS OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR SCHOOL BOARD REPORTS WHERE DATA IS ALSO SHARED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THEN WE WILL BE DISCUSSING AND APPROVING, HOPEFULLY, ONCE AGAIN, EVERYTHING PENDING THE STATE HERE, OUR HOUSE BILL 3 GOALS FOR '24-'25 BY AUGUST OF 2024.

IT MIGHT BE BEFORE THEN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT AS OUR TIMELINE RIGHT NOW JUST SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE FOR THAT.

>> DR. WESS.

>> YES. IF WE CAN JUST REMIND EVERYBODY WHEN THOSE GOALS GOT SUBMITTED IN 2019, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE THEM. THEY GET APPROVED.

>> THEY GET APPROVED AND THEN YOU'RE IN THERE AND YOU'RE IN LIMBO A LITTLE BIT WITHIN SOME OF THE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WHAT HAPPENED IN THE WORLD, AND THEN ALSO TO WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW ASSESSMENT THAT IS ALSO, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY APPLES TO APPLES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THINGS, JUST AS A COUPLE OF OTHER DATA PIECES FOR ALL THINGS THAT WE WILL BE GOING INTO.

AS A DISTRICT, WE ONCE AGAIN, HASHTAG CAN'T TEST THAT BASS, BUT WE DON'T JUST RELY ON ONE TEST.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ASSESSMENTS THAT OUR KIDDOS ARE GOING THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO BE ABLE TO GET ONCE AGAIN THAT FORMATIVE DATA SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHAT IS DRIVING THE INSTRUCTION DAY-TO-DAY AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, AND END OF THE YEAR.

BESIDES JUST YOUR STAR AND YOUR EOC DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

HERE'S A SCREENSHOT THAT WE CAPTURED FOR ONE OF OUR DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT JUST HAS SPECIFIC GRADE LEVELS AND WHAT SPECIFIC ASSESSMENTS WE DO UTILIZE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT NWEA MAP IS A BIG ONE FOR US, THAT WE UTILIZE KINDERGARTEN ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY THROUGH NINTH GRADE.

SOME OF OUR TENTH 12TH GRADERS TAKE THAT IF WE HAVE SOME STRUGGLING LEARNERS TO THAT.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO IDENTIFY SOME STANDARDS ON.

MCLASS IS A REQUIRED ASSESSMENT.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF ASSESSMENTS PER THE DISTRICT FOR EARLY LITERACY SCREENERS.

ALSO HAS A DYSLEXIA SCREENER THAT ARE REQUIRED.

CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THE MCLASS PIECE.

THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE STATE.

THAT'S A PLUS THAT MAY GO AWAY.

WE JUST SMILE AND SAY, OKAY, REQUIRED THINGS.

WE TALKED ABOUT BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS EARLIER WITHIN DISCUSSION.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE UTILIZING AND NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY UTILIZING IT.

ANITA LA IS A DOCTOR OF UTILIZER, ACTUALLY TURNED IN A GRANT TO OUR THIRD THROUGH FIFTH GRADE EDUCATORS ARE UTILIZING MCLASS TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE SOME SUPPORTS WITH INTERVENTION AS WELL THROUGH THAT ASSESSMENT.

IT'S A GREAT ASSESSMENT.

PRE-K IS YOUR CLI ENGAGED.

THERE'S ALSO LIVE LINKS TO THAT THAT YOU CAN CLICK ON TO TO DIG INTO ANY OF THOSE PLATFORMS. HERE'S A SCREENSHOT JUST LOOKING AT YOUR SECONDARY.

ONCE AGAIN MWEA MAP.

WE HAVE SOME CREATED PIECES THAT ARE PROGRESS MONITORING TOOLS.

NOT ONLY THAT WE UTILIZE AT ELEMENTARY, BUT ALSO AT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, AND THEN ALSO IN THE CORNER UP THERE, YOU'LL NOTICE CTE CERTIFICATIONS AND JUST GRADUATION COMPONENTS AS A WHOLE ARE A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT OUR SECONDARY LEARNERS.

HERE'S A LIST STRICT HERE OF JUST SOME HOLISTIC DATA POINTS.

WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PIECES OF DATA IN CISD.

SOME OF THOSE FALL UNDER YOUR TYPICAL, HERE'S YOUR STATE ASSESSMENTS.

SOME OF THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE CBE, WHICH IS YOUR CREDIT BY EXAM.

WE HAVE THE AVANT LANGUAGE TESTING, WHERE LEARNERS CAN COME IN AND ACTUALLY TAKE THAT IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE TO NECESSARILY TAKE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE COURSES.

WE HAD ADDED THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

THANK YOU DR. DAWSON FOR HELPING US WITH THAT.

WE USE OUR ATTENDANCE DATA, ATTENDANCE PLANS, TRUANCY PLANS, DISCIPLINE DATA.

DISCIPLINE DATA, AND BEHAVIOR DATA ARE ALSO TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

I ALWAYS LIKE TO MAKE SURE AND CARVE THOSE OUT SEPARATELY BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC BEHAVIOR THAT YOU MAY BE TARGETING ON AND WORKING ON WITH A LEARNER DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S A DISCIPLINE INCIDENT THAT'S HAPPENING.

OF COURSE, OUR OBSERVATIONS, YOUR GRADES, ALL THE SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT WE MAY HAVE.

IF YOU HAVE A LEARNER WHO HAS AN IP, IF I WILL, FOR ACCOMMODATION AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES WITHIN THAT, AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM TO THE THREAT ASSESSMENT DATA, THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT WE UTILIZE TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR LEARNERS, AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE, THIS IS HUGE, BUT PROGRESS MONITORING DATA, TIER 1, TIER 2 AND TIER 3, LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT LEARNER HOLISTIC GROWTH.

THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF SCREENSHOTS RIGHT HERE WHEN

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YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT PLATFORM WE UTILIZE IN ORDER TO HOLD OUR PROGRESS MONITORING AS WELL AS THOSE INTERVENTION PIECES.

OUR ENRICHMENTS PANORAMA STUDENT SUCCESS PLATFORM, AND THESE ARE NOT ACTUALLY LIVE DATA FOR OUR LEARNERS, THESE ARE JUST BASIC SCREENSHOTS.

I ALWAYS JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DATA WITHIN THERE.

BUT AS A PART OF OUR PLC PROCESS AND THINKING ABOUT MTSS AS A WHOLE, MULTI-TIER SYSTEMS OF SUPPORT, I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY, PROFESSIONAL LEARNING COMMUNITIES THAT IS TAKING THE TIME TO REALLY DIG IN, TALK ABOUT WHAT IS OUR DATA SHOWING US, HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY INTERVENING OR ENRICHING FOR LEARNERS, AND THEN HOW ARE WE PROGRESS MONITORING.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR TOOL ALLOWS, YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR LEFT HAND SIDE, RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S AN OVERARCHING LOOK AT ONE PARTICULAR CAMPUS THAT YOU WOULD SEE WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR DATA THAT IS BEING INPUTTED AND YOU HAVE TEACHERS THAT ARE INPUTTING DAILY ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT CHILDREN AND WHAT YOU'RE TRACKING ON THE SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE.

YOU CAN HOLISTICALLY BE ABLE TO PULL THAT UP IN A QUICK SCREENSHOT RIGHT THERE FROM THAT DISTRICT OR FROM THE CAMPUS BASED PERSPECTIVE.

THEN ALSO IN THE MIDDLE PART RIGHT THERE, THAT'S A STUDENT PROFILE.

LOOKING ONCE AGAIN IN OUR DISTRICT, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT OUR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL NEEDS, OUR BEHAVIORAL NEEDS, OUR ATTENDANCE NEEDS, ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GO INTO THE WHOLE PICTURE, AND PIA IMA ACTUALLY HAS A REALLY COOL PIECE RIGHT HERE, AND MARY KENNINGTON AND I PRESENTED ACTUALLY DOWN AT TESSA MIDWINTER THIS LAST WEEK, GREAT PRESENTATION ON MTSS, HAS A FULL CREW HERE.

>> IT WAS BRILLIANT.

>> IT WAS A REALLY, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.

>>THAT TELLS AS SO MANY PEOPLE CAME UP AFTERWARDS, TELLING ME, YOU KNOW, HOW EXCITING IT WAS FOR THEM TO GET THAT INFORMATION. YOU AND MARY, GREAT.

>> IT WAS GREAT AND WE ENJOYED THAT, AND IT'S ALSO NICE TO WHEN YOU'RE TELLING YOUR STORY AND YOU'RE PRESENTING AND YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING AND SAYING, OH MY GOSH, HOW DID Y'ALL DO THAT? HOW DID YOU GET THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE? THAT'S A GOOD FEELING.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GO.

YES, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT WHEN OTHER DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE ARE SAYING, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HOW DID YOU DO THAT, AND HOW ARE YOU MAKING THAT WORK FOR YOUR KIDS? BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW PIECE OVER HERE, AND I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING OLD, SO THEREFORE, I GOT TO PULL IT UP HERE WITHIN THERE.

BUT WITHIN THE PANORAMA PLATFORM, THE SS STANDARDS, WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SPECIFIC LEVELS AND YOUR LEVEL 1, 2 AND 3 I KNOW MARY KENNINGTON KIND OF WENT INTO SOME DETAILS, DO SOME MORE SO DON'T WORRY.

BUT THERE ARE SOME NEW COMPARISONS WITHIN THE PLATFORM THAT ARE ACTUALLY HELPING US TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT AND LOOK AT THAT HOLISTIC GROWTH TIED TO PROGRESS MONITORING AND LOOKING AT YOUR SCORES THAT YOU HAVE.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

BUT THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE THIS EVENING, JUST SO THAT WAY Y'ALL COULD HAVE A QUICK LITTLE REMINDER OF WHY WE DO.

WHAT WE DO IS ABOUT OUR KIDS AND IT'S ABOUT GROWTH.

THE WORD DATA SOMETIMES MAKES PEOPLE GO.

DATA IS WHAT DRIVES AND WHAT SHOULD DRIVE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR KIDS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING SUCCESSFUL HOLISTICALLY.

>> HOW DO I DO?

>>33. NOT TOO BAD.

>> VERY GOOD.

>> WHAT QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THEY ALL HAVE OR ANYTHING ON THAT END.

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY GREAT OVERVIEW.

I MEAN, IT'S GREAT FOR EVERYBODY TO BE REMINDED OF WHERE WE STARTED, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND WHY YOU ALL DO WHAT YOU DO IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE NEEDS.

I THINK GOING FORWARD, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT, EVEN I KNOW THERE'S SOME CHANGE IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE, THE STRATEGIES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE UTILIZING AS A TEAM IN ORDER TO BUILD UPON WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW.

IN SPITE OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY FALL OUT, LIKE GETTING STAR SCORES BACK, ET CETERA, THAT KIND OF THING.

>> I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR DATA.

WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT COPPELL ISD, WE ARE A HIGH PERFORMING DISTRICT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR SCORES COMPARISON TO OTHER DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE OR EVEN THE NATION WITHIN THERE.

WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH OUR DATA LENS, YOU'RE TRYING TO TEASE BACK AND PULL OUT WHERE ARE THE LAYERS THAT WE'RE NEEDING TO SEE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT GROWTH? DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC LEARNER GROUP THAT WE'RE TARGETING THAT WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE NOT QUITE MEETING THE MARK RIGHT HERE.

WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THIS? OR ARE OUR LEARNERS PERFORMING HIGH PERFORMING? THEN YOU GO, OKAY, GREAT, WELL, THEY'RE DOING GREAT ON THAT STATE ASSESSMENT OR ARE OTHER ASSESSMENTS LIKE MAP.

BUT HAVE THEY MADE THAT WHOLE YEAR'S GROWTH? BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE A HIGH PERFORMING LEARNER AND THEY COULD ALMOST FLY UNDER THE RADAR OF, YES, I'M HIGH PERFORMING, HERE I AM.

BUT DID THEY ACTUALLY MAKE THAT SIGNIFICANT GROWTH? I THINK THAT CONVERSATIONS WHEN WE'RE BREAKING DOWN OUR MAP SCORES AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE'S OUR STAR DATA.

WHAT SPECIFIC LEARNER GROUPS ARE WE SEEING RIGHT NOW THAT ARE REALLY NEEDING THAT BOOST? ALSO TO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE DISCIPLINE DATA, WHAT ARE OUR TRENDS? WHAT ARE OUR ATTENDANCE TRENDS? GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT, DO WE HAVE SPECIFIC KIDDOS WHO SEEM TO BE STRUGGLING? ARE THEY STRUGGLING BY NOT COMING TO SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MOTIVATED? ARE THERE THINGS GOING ON? ARE THERE SUPPORTS THAT WE COULD PUT IN PLACE? WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN DONE TO BE ABLE TO HELP ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.

BUT ALSO TO CAN YOU TARGET THE ROOT CAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING WITH DATA TO HOW HAVE YOU

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REALLY TEASED IT DOWN TO SAY YES, HERE WE ARE.

WE'RE EXCEPTIONALLY GREAT AND OH MY GOSH, WE'RE DOING THESE WONDERFUL THINGS.

HOWEVER, HOW DID WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS IN THAT MOLD, AND IT ALSO TOO DOESN'T LOOK.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL USE THE WORD VANITY DATA WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, OH YEAH, WHEN YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE PAN, WE'RE ROCKING IT.

BUT YOU START DIGGING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND SAY, GREAT.

BUT HOLD ON, WHAT HAPPENED WITH MAYBE THIS PARTICULAR CHILD? WHERE DID THEY FALL ALONG THE WAY? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET EVERYONE TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

>> ANYBODY ELSE. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

DR. BROOKS, THIS IS REALLY IS YOU ARE PUTTING DATA AND HOLISTIC TOGETHER, SO IT'S NOT JUST DATA. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES. GOOD. THANK YOU, DR. BROOKS.

>> 35.

>> I KNOW. NEVER DOUBT.

WITH THAT WILL CONCLUDE ALL THE TOPICS WE HAD TONIGHT FOR OUR WORKSHOP TIMES.

836, I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE ADJOURN.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO ADJOURN ANY DISCUSSION.

BEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? THE MOTION PASSES. 7-0 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.