Apr 08, 2024 Board Workshop

THREE DAYS. RIGHT.

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[I. CALL TO ORDER]

AND WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM OUR RIGHT TO YOUR LEFT.

WE'VE GOT TRUSTEE LEE WALKER, WE'VE GOT TRUSTEE NICOLE BENTLEY TO MY IMMEDIATE LEFT, AND TRUSTEE SETHI AND TRUSTEE RONALD RAVAL AND THEN MYSELF, ANTHONY HILL.

PRESIDENT CAVINESS WILL BE JOINING US A LITTLE BIT LATER.

AND WE'LL SEE ALSO TRUSTEE JEREMY MATTHEW AS WELL.

AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME THERE IS NO SPEAKER IN OPEN FORUM, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SECTION OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL MATTERS.

[IV. CLOSED SESSION]

ALL RIGHT. AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, IT IS 531.

WE'RE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION.

ALL RIGHT. TIME IS 6:00.

I'M GOING TO CALL US BACK INTO SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION MEETING.

[V. RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT CAVINESS FORD AND DOCTOR HUNT.

IT'S WITH GREAT PRIVILEGE AND PLEASURE THAT I GET TO INTRODUCE THE NEW PRINCIPAL OF NEW TECH HIGH COPPELL, MR. ZANE PORTER.

OF A FEW PIECES OF JUST GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT MR. PORTER. HE'S WORKED HERE IN COPPELL ISD FOR NINE YEARS, INCLUDING FIVE YEARS AS A FACILITATOR AT NEW TECH AT HIGH, NEW TECH HIGH AT COPPELL.

HE SPENT THE LAST FOUR YEARS AS AN ADMINISTRATOR AT COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL, TWO YEARS AS AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL.

IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AS THE ASSOCIATE PRINCIPAL ZANE RECEIVED HIS BACHELOR'S AND HIS MASTER'S OF ARTS DEGREE IN ENGLISH FROM WAYLAND BAPTIST UNIVERSITY.

AND ZANE AND HIS WIFE TARA, WHO'S HERE AND WE'LL RECOGNIZE IN A FEW MOMENTS, HAVE THREE CHILDREN WHO ALSO ATTEND SCHOOL HERE IN COPPELL ISD.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THE LOGISTICAL PIECES.

BUT THE REASON THAT ZANE PORTER HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE NEXT PRINCIPAL IS NUMBER ONE.

HIS PASSION AND LOVE FOR STUDENTS, TEACHERS, FACILITATORS AND FAMILIES, REGARDLESS OF WHERE HIS POSITION IS.

BUT AS THE INTERVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH DID INCLUDE FACILITATORS FROM NEW TECH AS WELL AS DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS MET WITH SEVERAL CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION.

IT BECAME VERY CLEAR, AS ZANE SPOKE FROM THE HEART THAT HE WAS JUST THE RIGHT PERSON.

HE KNOWS NEW TECH, HE KNOWS THE PHILOSOPHY OF NEW TECH.

HE KNOWS THE PROJECT BASED LEARNING.

HE HAS A PASSION FOR NEW TECH AND FOR SUPPORTING STUDENTS AND FACILITATORS THERE.

BUT HE ALSO HAS THE RELATIONSHIPS NOT ONLY AT COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL, BUT THE NINTH GRADE CAMPUS, AS WELL AS THE THREE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE NEW TECH IN THE DIRECTION IT NEEDS TO GO HERE IN COPPELL ISD, THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND THOSE COLLABORATION PIECES ARE SO, SO VERY IMPORTANT.

AND SO AS HE SPOKE AUTHENTICALLY FROM HIS HEART WITH THE COMMITTEE, WITH DOCTOR HUNT, AND EVEN THIS EVENING WITH THE BOARD, IT'S BECOME VERY CLEAR THAT ZANE PORTER IS THE RIGHT PERSON TO BE THE PRINCIPAL.

AND SO I'LL STEP ASIDE AND WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SHARE A FEW WORDS THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, MISS SEIGEL. IF I COULD HAVE MY WIFE TARA AND MY SON BRADEN AND DAUGHTER ASHLYN AND SOME.

BRYSON, IF Y'ALL COULD COME UP HERE WITH ME FOR A SEC.

YOU SAY YOU CAN SEE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE REASON THAT I DO THIS.

YOU KNOW, MY. SORRY.

MY WIFE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME.

THE MOST. AND THE REASON I CAN LOVE THE WAY I DO ALONG WITH MY RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST.

YOU KNOW, SHE IS THE REASON THAT.

THAT I'M ABLE TO LOVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I JUST IN THIS JUST DISTRICT, WE HAVE FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THEY ALL NEED TO BE SEEN IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.

THEY NEED TO BE SEEN AS A THING FOR WHICH THEY WERE BUILT.

AND NEWTECH IS, AS A PLACE IN MY HEART, HAS A PLACE IN MY HEART.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I STARTED THERE AND I CAME THERE FROM ANOTHER PROJECT BASED LEARNING SCHOOL BECAUSE I REALLY LOVE THAT STYLE.

I THINK THAT IT'S A STYLE THAT DOESN'T JUST BREED AN ACADEMIC, BUT BREEDS A CITIZEN OF THE WORLD.

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AND WE WE EXPECT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE KIDS, ALL THE LEARNERS IN THAT PLACE, AS WELL AS THE FACILITATORS AS WELL AS THE PARAPROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS THE CUSTODIAL STAFF AND THE CAFETERIA STAFF.

WE EXPECT THEM TO BE LEADERS.

LIKE IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE.

SO I WANT TO SEE NEW TECH RISE.

RISE FROM THIS IDEA THAT IT COULD BE SHUT DOWN EVERY YEAR.

RIGHT. AND I AND I WON'T HOLD BACK.

RIGHT. IT RISE FROM THIS THING THAT MIGHT BE SHUT DOWN EVERY YEAR.

OR AT LEAST THAT'S THE PERCEPTION AND THE WAY PEOPLE TALK IN THE COMMUNITY TO WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE IN 2030? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE 30 YEARS FROM NOW? IT MIGHT NOT BE NAMED NEW TECH, BUT IT CERTAINLY WILL HAVE ALL THAT LEGACY THAT NEW TECH HAS BUILT.

IT MIGHT BE PUSHED INTO SOMETHING THAT BECOMES MORE MODERN AS NEW TECH IS KIND OF ANTIQUATED NAME, RIGHT? IT MIGHT BECOME SOMETHING MORE MODERN, BUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE IS THE SAME LEGACY THAT'S DRIVEN IT.

AND I THINK THAT THE FACILITATORS WHO STARTED THERE, THE FACILITATORS WHO'VE BEEN HERE, THERE A LONG TIME.

COUPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE A DUTY TO THIS COMMUNITY TO SHARE WHAT THOSE KIDS REALLY CAN DO, AND TO LOVE THOSE KIDS, AND TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR THOSE KIDS TO REALLY PRODUCE A PASSION.

AND WE NEED TO MARKET THAT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS AND WHY NEW TECH IS VITAL IN THIS COMMUNITY, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S AN OPTION THAT ALLOWS KIDS TO FLOURISH.

AND WHY WOULD WE NOT TAKE THAT ON? WHY WOULD WE LEAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE? RIGHT. AND LOVING KIDS.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK BECAUSE SHE'S HERE.

AND I WOULD SAY IT ANYWAY, IF SHE WASN'T.

BUT THE LAST FOUR YEARS LEARNING UNDER LAURA SPRINGER, BEING ABLE TO SEE HOW SHE LOVES HARD AND LONG.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THAT LOVE AND THAT ACCEPTANCE.

AND WE NEED TO SHOW THESE KIDS HOW TO FIND MENTORS LIKE THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR PUSHING ME THROUGH.

NOT ALWAYS A CRYBABY.

LAST COUPLE TIMES. NOTHING BUT THE DESIGN WILL BE THE NEW PRINCIPAL AT NEW TECH HIGH COPPELL.

I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN THIS EXCITED SINCE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT I'M THRILLED ABOUT HAVING HIM IN THIS ROLE.

HE'S GOING TO BE OUTSTANDING.

I KNOW WE GOT A LOT OF THE STAFF MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT AND SOME PARENTS AND STUDENTS TOO.

THEY'RE IN FOR A LOT OF FUN.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO CONGRATULATE HIM AND SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUTSTANDING.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE THAT IS ABLE TO JOIN OUR STAFF IN THE LOBBY FOR A BRIEF RECEPTION.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS TWEETED OUT OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT EXED OUT, BUT.

OUT BECAUSE WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD AND EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEXT STEP IN THE LIFE OF NEW TECH HIGH COPPELL.

SO PLEASE HEAD ON OUT TO THE LOBBY AND YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME BACK HERE AFTERWARDS.

SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO ZAIN.

I KNOW. WELL, AS WE'RE KIND OF REFOCUSING BACK TO THE REST OF OUR MEETING, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO CONTINUE OUR WORK WITH OUR BUDGET PLANNING FOR 24, 25 AND 2526.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH TO AND SO I'M GOING TO HAVE NAVEEN DO THE SLIDES FOR NOW OR WHOEVER IS DRIVING WHEN I GIVE THE HEAD NOD, THAT MEANS WE'RE MOVING THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS WORK, AS YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN SIVAS WITH FISCAL AND RESPONSIBLE AND CERTAINLY IS RELATED TO GOAL NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN STRATEGIC PLANNING AND LONG TERM PLANNING.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR BUDGET WORK.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ZONDA HERE TONIGHT.

[VI.A. Demographer's Spring Update - Rocky Gardiner (Zonda Education) (SPPG4) (FOS)]

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN.

AWESOME. THANK YOU DOCTOR. YES I'M ROCKY GARDNER.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN IN COPPELL FOR A FEW YEARS, BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.

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BOB. BOB'S OUT OF POCKET TONIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY, SO THE FIRST SLIDE HERE IS JUST UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.

YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN A PRETTY STRONG ECONOMY.

THAT LINE THAT SLIDE HAS LOOKED THE SAME FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.

SO WE'RE WELL BELOW 5% WHICH IS CONSIDERED FULL EMPLOYMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE MOTORING ALONG THE WAY.

THEY ARE RIGHT.

DALLAS FORT WORTH ENROLLMENT TRENDS OF TEXAS HAVE SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT SINCE.

SINCE COVID, WE LOST OVER 90,000 STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING COVID OR DURING THE COVID, AND THEN THEY BOUNCE BACK FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS YEAR WE ONLY ADDED 12,700 STUDENTS.

WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND ON THIS SLIDE IS THIS INCLUDES CHARTERS.

CHARTER SCHOOLS GREW 18,000.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS TRADITIONAL ISD'S ACTUALLY LOST 6000 STUDENTS LAST YEAR FOR A NET OF 12,000.

SO NOT EVERYBODY'S GROWING.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CHART IS SHOWING HERE.

AND IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING TREND THAT WE'RE NOT SURE WHEN IT'S GOING TO SLOW DOWN.

IN REGION TEN, COPPELL HAS ADDED 446 STUDENTS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S A 3% GROWTH.

WE'VE SEEN A FIVE YEAR ENROLLMENT INCREASE IN THE REGION ITSELF OF OVER 19,000 STUDENTS.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 2.5% GROWTH.

SO 5000 STUDENTS FROM 22 TO 23 IN THE REGION.

SO WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH LAST YEAR IN REGION TEN AND SOME NET GROWTH.

THIS IS A NEW SLIDE.

THIS IS A POPULATION TREND SLIDE.

SO THIS IS TAKEN FROM AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY.

SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY IT'S A CENSUS BASED SURVEY THAT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SURVEY 3.5 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS.

AND THEY USE THAT DATA THEN TO EXPORT THIS DATA, WHICH MAKES IT GOOD.

AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST 10 MILLION PEOPLE TO, TO FOR THE WHOLE UNITED STATES.

SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A MARGIN OF ERROR.

BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE ON THIS IS YOUR MILLENNIAL 27.4.

THAT'S THAT'S YOUR PARENTS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHEST SEGMENT OF YOUR POPULATION IS STILL PRETTY YOUNG HERE IN COPPELL YOUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME 134 MEDIAN HOUSING VALUE 442.

THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE.

SO THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB THERE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW YOUNG COPPELL IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR YOUR, YOUR GENERATION, THE, THE THE FIRST GENERATION, THEY'RE THE GREATEST GENERATION, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE BABY BOOMERS THERE.

DFW NEW HOME STARTS.

WE STARTED 46,270 43,311.

CLOSED 46,273.

WE'VE SEEN THE DROP.

YOU KNOW, WE SAW STARTS ACCELERATE.

SO MUCH INTEREST RATES STARTED GOING UP.

CLOSINGS SLOWED DOWN.

SO THAT'S WHEN IT GOT FLAT THERE THAT THAT GREEN LINE OR BLUISH LINE.

AND THEN YOU SAW ONCE THEY WORKED OFF INVENTORY THAT THEY STARTED CLOSING MORE HOMES AND THEN CLOSED CLOSINGS EXCEEDED STARTS.

THAT FLIPPED THE AND WE SAW IT CLIMB UP.

AND NOW WE'VE SEEN IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO MEET SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND 45,000.

HOPEFULLY THE STARTS WILL POP UP AGAIN.

THEY DROPPED A LITTLE BIT IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, BUT FOURTH QUARTER CAN SOMETIMES BE SLOW.

ANYWAY, IT'S KIND OF THAT WINTER QUARTER, SO WE'RE NOT TOO CONCERNED.

DALLAS FORT WORTH IS ACTUALLY THE NUMBER ONE HOUSING MARKET IN THE COUNTRY.

SO AND AND WE'RE NUMBER ONE BY A BUNCH I MEAN HOUSTON IS WITHIN I THINK DALLAS IS 44 HOUSTON 30 SOMETHING.

THEN IT DROPS TO 17,000.

SO WE HAVE FOUR PARTS OF TEXAS THAT ARE IN THE TOP TEN IN THE UNITED STATES.

SO WE ARE A FAST GROWING HOUSING MARKET COPPELL NEW HOMES AND EXISTING HOME SALES.

SO THIS IS BASED ON DEED TRANSACTIONS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF A HOME IF A HOME SELLS, IT'S A COMBINATION OF NEW.

AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT WE DROPPED OFF THERE IN 2023, 565 AND 2022, 695.

I DO THINK A LOT OF THIS IS INVENTORY.

PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY LEAVING THE HOME THEY'RE IN NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE SITTING IN A 3% INTEREST RATE, SO THEY CAN'T MOVE ON TO THAT NEXT HOUSE THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO MOVE ON TO, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY DOUBLE THEIR INTEREST RATE TO GET LESS MONEY, LESS HOUSE FOR THEIR MONEY.

BUT THIS ALSO CAN IMPACT NEW HOME BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T MOVING TO NEW HOMES.

SO WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT REGENERATION IN EXISTING HOMES.

SO THAT CAN CAUSE A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOWDOWN, NOT ONLY AT IN A NEW HOME BUILDING, BUT ALSO IT CAN SLOW DOWN THE THE RE REGENERATION THAT WE LIKE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY IN A COMMUNITY LIKE COPPELL THAT'S QUICKLY BUILDING OUT 740,000 IS THE AVERAGE NEW HOME PRICE IN 2023.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT INCREASES ABOUT 20,000 THERE.

EXISTING HOMES ARE SITTING AT 658.

SO THAT CHART BELOW KEEP IN MIND THIS WAS ACTUALLY THESE WERE ACTUALLY SALES.

AND THE CHART THAT WE SAW EARLIER THAT WAS LIKE 400,000.

THAT WAS AVERAGE VALUE.

SO THAT'S YOUR DIFFERENCE THERE.

AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF AIR AND IT CAN BE TAUGHT THERE.

IF WE LOOK AT IT BY BY AREA, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

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I SAY FULLY DEVELOPED.

I DON'T EVER USE BUILD OUT A LOT ANYMORE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PLACE YOU EVER GET BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU THINK YOU'RE THERE, THEY TEAR IT, TEAR SOMETHING DOWN AND BUILD SOMETHING ELSE. BUT BUT WE ARE GETTING FULLY DEVELOPED IN COPPELL FOR SURE.

JUST 70 VDL NOW.

SO WHERE I'M SORRY VACANT DEVELOP LOTS.

THANK YOU. YES. SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE READY TO BE BUILT ON RIGHT NOW.

SO THE DISTRICT HAS FOUR ACTIVELY BUILT BUILDING SUBDIVISIONS WITH 70 LOTS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S ALSO ONE FUTURE SUBDIVISION WITH ABOUT 29 FUTURE LOTS.

SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE IN THE PLANNING STAGES.

THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T STARTED MOVING DIRT YET.

AND YOU HAVE SOME TIME ONCE THEY START MOVING DIRT TO KIND OF PLAN FOR THEM.

THEN A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES THAT WERE PUT IN HERE.

BLACKBERRY FARM, 63 TOTAL VACANT LOTS.

THEY GOT GROUND WORK UNDERWAY.

900 K IS IS A PRICE POINT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BUILD SOMEWHAT SLOW.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'LL THEY'LL OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH THOSE.

THE HOUSING THE THE APARTMENT MARKET HAS SEEN A DROP.

WE'RE DOWN TO 87.7% OCCUPIED.

WE LIKE TO BE WELL OVER 90%.

AND SO THEY'RE NOT ABOVE 90%.

BUT KEEP IN MIND THERE THAT THAT UNIT CHANGE OF 33,000 ABSORBED 9800.

SO THERE'S SO MANY NEW UNITS COMING ONLINE THAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, RATES GET IMPACTED BECAUSE THAT THAT'S NOW BEING SPREAD OUT ON TO MORE AND MORE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

AND YOU CAN SEE RENTS HAVE FOLLOWED TREND AND DROPPED DOWN.

SO I GUESS IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT MOVING TO APARTMENT, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS, BUT THIS IS ALL OF DALLAS-FORT WORTH.

THAT'S ALL OF DALLAS FORT WORTH TREND.

YES, THAT THAT'S THE TREND.

AND WE AND WE ACTUALLY THINK APARTMENT GROWTH IS PROBABLY GOING TO SLOW QUITE A BIT BECAUSE OF THIS.

THEY'RE GOING TO TRY IT'S SIMILAR TO THE HOUSING MARKET.

THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO FILL UP SOME OF THOSE APARTMENTS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE BEFORE, BEFORE THEY GET TOO FAR IN FRONT OF THEMSELVES.

YOU KNOW THIS HASTINGS IN AT CYPRESS WATERS.

IT'S ALMOST READY. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE RELEASING SOME OF IT NOW.

YOUR YIELDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE REAL HIGH OUT THERE LIKELY.

AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A LOT OF NEW APARTMENTS NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING A LOT MORE ONE BEDROOM HOMES THAN WHAT THEY THEY USED TO.

THEY JUST DON'T HAVE AS MANY STUDENTS IN WHAT WE USED TO SEE AS SOME OF YOUR OLDER ONES WILL HAVE MORE.

AND OF COURSE, AUGUST HILLS AT CYPRESS WATERS, THIS IS GOING TO BE JUST GETTING THE GROUND, THE GROUNDWORK GOING ON THAT IN MARCH.

THAT'S A MARCH AERIAL THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE GROUNDWORK. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 2025 BEFORE YOU SEE ANY REAL STUDENT IMPACT.

AND AGAIN I DOUBT IT WILL BE REAL HIGH MULTIFAMILY YIELDS.

SO THIS INCLUDES SO YOUR OVERALL MULTIFAMILY YIELD AND COPPELL IS 0.43 WHICH IS PRETTY HIGH FOR FOR MULTIFAMILY.

NOW THAT DOES ALSO INCLUDE A MOBILE HOME PARK BECAUSE A MOBILE HOME PARK IS IS CONSIDERED AN APARTMENT OR A MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE TRACK OF LAND IS HOW WE DESCRIBE A MULTIFAMILY.

SO IT DOES INCLUDE THAT YOU'VE GOT 3100 STUDENTS IN 7200 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

YOU CAN SEE THE THIS IS A STUDENT YIELD SLIDE.

WE PUT ALL THE DOTS IN THERE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE DENSITY.

BUT YOUR OVERALL HOUSING YIELD OF 0.699, VERY STRONG YIELD AND A 0.4336 APARTMENT YIELD, YOU MAY BEGIN TO SEE SOME YIELD DECLINES GOING FORWARD.

I THINK IF WE DON'T START SEEING SOME OF THIS REGENERATION HAPPEN, BECAUSE THEN THE FOLKS ARE STAYING RIGHT WHERE THEY'RE AT.

WE THIS IS A TRANSFER REPORT FROM TIA.

SO THESE ARE INCOMING TRANSFERS FROM.

SO THESE ARE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT THE TOP THAT YOU GET STUDENTS FROM THAT TRANSFER INTO COPPELL.

THEN THE BOTTOM PART OF THE CHART ARE STUDENTS THAT LIVE OUT OF THAT LIVE IN COPPELL BUT ATTEND CAMPUS OUTSIDE OF COPPELL.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S REMAINED 965 DOWN.

930. IT'S BEEN VERY, I GUESS, HELD IN CHECK, IF YOU WILL, IN COPPELL FOR THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS AND YOUR INCOMING.

HAS HAS BOUNCED AROUND.

SO. BUT RIGHT THERE AT THAT 450 NUMBER THIS IS PRODUCED.

WE DON'T PRODUCE THIS CHART.

THIS IS STRICTLY FROM T.

YES. WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

AND YOU ALL KNOW T IS THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY AND ANYBODY WATCHING FROM HOME.

THIS IS A CHART THAT WE DO GET SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT.

AND SO WANTED TO LET BOARD MEMBERS ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.

I THINK YOU'RE ABOUT TO SHARE SOMETHING, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.

ANGELA BROWN, SPECIFICALLY IN HER TEAM, AS TO WHY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO PUSH OUR ENROLLMENT WORK.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE MADE AT THE GREEN PART.

AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEE THE COMPETITION THAT WE HAVE IN THE PURPLE.

BUT QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SLIDE.

YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION.

AND YOU JUST HIT ON THE BIG PART OF IT THAT THE TO IS THERE A CHART.

BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE THAT WE I KNOW WE GET TRANSFER ENDS FROM CHARTER SCHOOLS AS WELL.

AND SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT REFLECTED ON THAT CHART.

SO TO REALLY GET A TRUE BALANCE OF OF THAT IMPACT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THAT, THAT KIND OF CHART.

YEAH. THIS CHART IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

SO THE TOP CHART REALLY IS BASED ON WHERE THEY LIVE.

SO IT'S BASED ON THEIR ADDRESS.

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SO THIS IS REALLY BASED OFF THEIR ADDRESS WHERE THEY LIVE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRACKING IN NOW.

THE THE BOTTOM CHART IS THEY'RE ZONED TO US.

AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING? SO THIS IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.

THE TOP CHART DOES NOT TALK DOES NOT CONSIDER OR TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CHARTER SCHOOLS.

THESE ARE THE CHARTS THAT TO PUBLISHED THIS THIS IS WHAT THEY PUBLISH.

YES. THE INTERNAL TRACKING.

WHEN WE HAVE KIDS THAT COME IN WE KNOW OBVIOUSLY WHERE THEY COME FROM.

SO WE WE HAVE OUR OWN SYSTEM THAT WE TRACK WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN FROM.

AND IF THEY LEAVE US WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

SO ACTUALLY WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS THIS WEEK ABOUT EVEN REFINING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE HAVE A SYSTEM, WE CAN PULL IT AND WE DO PULL IT REGULARLY AND LOOK AT IT AND AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME ENROLLMENT PIECES AND LASERFICHE WILL BE PULLING SOME PIECES, EVEN EVEN MORE.

SO, YEAH.

WHEN DOING THAT ANALYSIS, WHAT CONCLUSIONS DO YOU DRAW FROM THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THIS CHART WOULD, WOULD GIVE YOU? I MEAN, WE DO HAVE STUDENTS THAT COME IN, WE STUDENTS THAT LEAVE.

WHAT WHAT WE DO SEE IS THAT STUDENTS WHO LEAVE TO US, PARTICULARLY TO SOME OF THOSE CHARTER SCHOOLS ON THERE, TEND TO COME BACK TO US WITHIN THE SAME SCHOOL YEAR.

SO WE DO HAVE A BIT OF MOBILITY, KIND OF MOVING BACK AND FORTH PARTICULARLY WITH A COUPLE OF THOSE CHARTER SCHOOLS.

WE DON'T SEE THAT AS MUCH WITH THE OTHER ISDS, BUT WE DO WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS.

KIND OF THAT IN AND OUT.

THEY'LL TYPICALLY BE BACK WITH US WITHIN 3 TO 4 MONTHS.

IT LOOKS LIKE SO A SEMESTER USUALLY AND IF NOT THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

SO WE, WE DO SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT KIND OF THAT MOVEMENT ON PARTICULARLY A COUPLE OF THOSE.

SO DOES T TRACK EVERY MOVEMENT TRANSACTION THEN.

SO A KID COULD BE ON HERE TWO TIMES ONE TIME IN AND ONE TIME OUT.

OR DO THEY ONLY TRACK IT PER SCHOOL YEAR THAT ON THIS I THINK THEY'RE ONLY TRACKING THE STUDENT THE ONE TIME.

AND THIS IS PULLED ON I BELIEVE THIS IS PULLED ON SNAPSHOT DATE.

YEAH. AND KEEP IN MIND AS WELL THAT LIKE IF, IF A STUDENT WAS A FIRST GRADER AND THEY LEFT IN 2020 THAT 965.

YEAH, THEY COULD STILL BE GONE.

SO THEY'RE STILL BEING SO THOSE AREN'T 935 NEW LEAVING EACH YEAR.

CUMULATIVE. YEAH IT'S CUMULATIVE SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

YES. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE LOSING THOSE THAT MANY EVERY YEAR.

YEAH. THEY'RE THEY ARE PULLING LIKE ON THAT DAY WHERE THESE KIDS WHERE THEIR ADDRESS IS AND THEN WHERE ARE THEY ZONED.

GOTCHA. AND WHERE ARE THEY ATTENDING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. SO SO LET ME AS AN EXAMPLE THEN IF IT'S CUMULATIVE SO DOES THEN LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT GREAT HEART'S 2122 TO 2223, DOES THAT MEAN WE TWO MORE OR LESS CAME BACK TO COPPELL ISD FROM THERE? YES. OKAY.

OR AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT. OR OR AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT AT GREAT FALLS.

THEY'RE NOT A GREAT HEART'S NOT GREAT.

YEAH. IF THEY MOVED OR WHERE THEY WHATEVER THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, THEY COULD BE SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THAT CHART.

BUT THEY'RE NOT AT GREAT HEART'S.

THEY COULD HAVE MOVED OR GONE TO ANOTHER CHARTER.

IT IS HARD, LIKE ANGELA SAID, BECAUSE THE CHARTERS ARE NOT ZONED.

YOU GO TO A CHARTER SCHOOL AND BE ZONED ANYWHERE.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WELL, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE FAVORABLE TO THE CHARTERS.

MAYBE IT IS, YOU KNOW, CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

YOU GUESS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO GUESS ON THAT.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

AND SO THIS IS THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT GET TOO HUNG UP ON THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

THE IMPORTANT THING IS. AND NOTE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR BEST WHENEVER STUDENTS DO EXIT OUR DISTRICT, BUT STILL LIVE WITHIN COPPELL ISD.

TO FIND OUT WHAT ARE THE REASONS WHY THEY ARE LEAVING.

SO IF OUR DATA IS MORE ACCURATE, ROBUST, WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE, COULD WE GET A REPORT FROM STAFF ONCE A YEAR TO GIVE US A SENSE OF LIKE WHAT THE REAL MOBILITY IS IN AND OUT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE THIS KIND OF FEELS LIKE IT'S UNRELIABLE.

THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE THE WAY THEY'VE DONE THE MATH, IT'S ACCURATE, BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S A RELIABLE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THE SOME OF THE MEASURES THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO PLACE RIGHT NOW, THAT IT WILL BE THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. WE'VE WE'VE JUST MADE A COUPLE OF CHANGES RECENTLY THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION IN A REPORT FORM THAT WILL BE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND DIGEST.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH.

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR UNDERSTANDING TRENDS LIKE THE FIVE YEAR CHANGE.

IT DOESN'T REFLECT THAT.

WOULD THAT WOULD MEAN THAT IT'S LIKE OVER FIVE YOU KNOW INCREASED PLUS 70.

BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE JUMP FORWARD TO THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS NEXT YEAR, WE'RE PROJECTING A 59 STUDENT GROWTH IN COPPELL.

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WE LOOK AT THE 12TH GRADE CLASS AND THE KINDERGARTEN CLASSES.

WE'VE SEEN THOSE DECLINES IN KINDERGARTEN, BUT YOU'VE GOT 1000 STUDENTS LEAVING, 700 STUDENTS COMING IN.

SO YOU'RE LOSING 300 STUDENTS RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

SO REALLY, THIS FORECAST, IT SOUNDS FUNNY, IS GROWING THE DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF LOSING 300, WE'RE LOSING 6059.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FORECAST GOING FORWARD.

AND UNLESS YOUR KINDERGARTEN CLASS CAN GET BACK TO WHERE IT WAS PRE-COVID, THIS IS THE TREND WE'RE GOING TO SEE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE WITH THAT IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WE LOOK AT KINDER AND 12TH AND N OUT.

BUT I KNOW WITH OUR HOME PRICES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THAT WE DO GET WHEN PEOPLE MOVE IN, THEY MOVE IN AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL.

AND SO I KNOW THAT AT KINDER IT SEEMS VERY ALARMING.

AND WHAT ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT.

BUT DO WE EVER IS THERE A WAY TO SAY, OKAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START MAKING IT UP IN FIFTH, SIXTH OR SEVENTH? IS THERE ANY TREND ANALYSIS OF WHEN WE DO KIND OF GET A BUMP OF GETTING THEM? YEAH. WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS THAT YOUR SECONDARY COHORT IS PRETTY STRONG.

AND WHAT WE LOOK AT IS LIKE, HOW MANY SIXTH GRADERS BECOME SEVENTH GRADERS? SO YOU LOOK BACK, LIKE IN LAST YEAR, THERE WERE 1069 SEVENTH GRADERS THAT BECAME 1099 EIGHTH GRADERS.

SO YOU ARE CAPTURING YOU ARE GETTING SOME STUDENTS BACK, WHICH MIGHT HOLD YOUR THOSE GRADE LEVELS UP AT THAT.

BUT WE'RE STILL AS LONG AS THAT SMALL KINDERGARTEN CLASS KEEPS COMING IN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A BIG CHANGE IN IN ENROLLMENT.

IT'S GOING TO GET 300 KIDS, FOR INSTANCE, IN SIXTH GRADE.

NO. WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM FROM YOU COULD GET TO YOU MIGHT STAY AT 1000 JUST BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE INFLUX.

BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW AT SOME POINT THAT'S LIKELY TO DROP BELOW A THOUSAND BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SUSTAINED.

IT'S NOT KIND OF A REFLECTING THOSE NUMBERS NOW BETWEEN FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE, LIKE AT LEAST IN THIS YEAR.

RIGHT. IT'S A THOUSAND IN FIFTH GRADE, BUT THEN 1045.

RIGHT. AND SO THAT CAN KEEP HAPPENING.

WE WE MIGHT ADD 50 NEW STUDENTS FROM FIFTH TO SIXTH.

BUT AT SOME POINT THAT THAT KINDERGARTEN CLASS STARTS COMING UP THERE.

AND IF YOU LOOK BACK THERE TO LIKE YOUR 2728, WE'VE GOT 878 FIFTH GRADERS BECOMING 924 SIXTH GRADERS.

SO WE'RE STILL GETTING THAT 50 STUDENT GROWTH.

BUT THE CLASS THAT'S COMING IN IS JUST SMALLER, AND THAT'S GOT TO KIND OF PLAY ITS WAY THROUGH AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL.

YOU CAN SEE HERE YOUR CAMPUSES.

THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE YOUR TREND.

THIS IS WHERE THE MOST OF YOUR NEGATIVE ENROLLMENT COMES FROM.

AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE THESE CLASS SIZES THAT ARE EXITING AT THESE, EACH OF THESE CAMPUSES ARE SMALLER THAN THE ONE THAT'S COMING IN.

SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE TRENDS BEGIN TO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST SEEING THAT NEGATIVE TREND THERE.

HERE'S HERE'S HERE'S YOUR SECONDARY.

SO YOU SEE YOUR SECONDARY SHOWING A LITTLE GROWTH.

YOU CAN SEE YOU KNOW THE HIGH SCHOOL.

YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO 100 STUDENTS.

YOU KNOW A YEAR FROM NOW THAT'S A BIG GRADE COMING IN.

YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT BIG JUMP THERE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE SEEING THAT THAT DROP IN 28, 29 BECAUSE THAT'S THOSE SMALL CLASSES ARE FINALLY STARTING TO IMPACT THERE.

SO THAT REALLY IS KIND OF A CHALLENGE.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ENROLLMENT AS 13 468.

SO YOU HAD AN INCREASE OF 97 STUDENTS JUST FROM FROM SPRING.

SO THAT'S A YOU ARE GROWING.

SO FROM THE FALL SNAPSHOT, WHICH IS WHAT OUR FORECAST IS OCTOBER TO OCTOBER.

SO YOU ARE SEEING SOME GROWTH THERE.

BUT IT'S JUST NOT THOSE 97 STUDENTS ARE ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

THAT BIG CLASS 60.

SO YOUNGER GRADE LEVELS STILL LOWER THAN SECONDARY LEVELS.

TRANSFER PARENTS REMAIN CONSISTENT FROM THE 2223 SCHOOL YEAR.

SO IT'S WE'RE TRENDING TO 12,950.

SO JUST UNDER 13,000 STUDENTS IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

IT'S SEEING.

THAT'S THAT'S MY STORY.

YES. THANK YOU. ROCKY, YOUR THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR ROCKY BEFORE HE HAS TO LEAVE.

DO YOU HAVE A QUICK QUESTION? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME TRENDS NATIONALLY, STATEWIDE AND LOCALLY.

ANY OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE COMING INTO PLAY THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD AFFECT FUTURE PROJECTIONS? WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS UNDERSTANDING THAT BIRTH RATES ARE HAVE HAVE DECLINED.

THEY'RE JUST NOW STABILIZING.

SO THAT OF COURSE IS GOING TO IMPACT YOUR KINDERGARTEN.

WE THINK COMING OUT OF COVID THERE'S JUST BEEN SOME PARENTAL DECISIONS THAT'S IMPACTING SOME OF THOSE GRADES.

AND I THINK NOT ONLY ARE YOU GETTING STUDENTS BACK, YOU'RE SEEING THOSE GROWTH COHORTS AT SECONDARY LEVEL.

THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL COME BACK FROM CHARTER FROM CHARTERS AS WELL.

I THINK THAT TREND, WE'VE SEEN THAT PLAY OUT A LOT.

IF YOU DON'T GET THEM BACK RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT AWAY, THEN YOU'LL PROBABLY GET THEM BACK BY SECONDARY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO.

THEY LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I DON'T SEE A NATIONAL, ANOTHER NATIONAL TREND THAT I CAN THINK OF.

I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT'S GOING TO HELP IS WHEN YOU SEE THOSE D TRANSACTIONS AND THESE HOMES, WE DON'T HAVE AN INVENTORY THERE.

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SO WE JUST GOT TO GET THE MARKET TO TURN THOSE, START TURNING THOSE OVER AGAIN TO.

I HAVE TWO MULTIFAMILY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

ONE IS, ARE YOU GUYS TALKING TO THE BILLINGSLEY GROUP WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS ANALYSIS? BECAUSE THEY HAD DONE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND NOW THEY'VE BACKED OFF OF THAT COMING OUT OF COVID.

SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND OVER THERE.

AND WHILE A LOT OF IT IS STILL ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS, IT'S STILL A LOT OF LAND.

SO THAT'S ONE OF MY MULTIFAMILY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS WHAT TRENDS ARE YOU SEEING WITH COMMERCIAL BEING CONVERTED TO MULTIFAMILY? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE STILL A LARGE SEGMENT OF COMMERCIAL BETWEEN BELTLINE ROAD AND ROYAL SOUTH OF 635 THAT IS CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL. SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS WHAT ARE YOU GUYS SEEING WITH VACANT OFFICE SPACES? WHAT'S HAPPENING NATIONALLY OR IN DFW IF IT'S SUCH A HOT HOUSING MARKET? YEAH. SO FIRST OF ALL, THE RESEARCH GROUP, THE RESEARCH ANALYST THAT DOES THEIR RESEARCH FOR COPPELL, SHE DOES REACH OUT TO THE BUILDINGS AND GROUP OR SHE'S GOT A CONTACT FOR APARTMENTS. I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHO BOB'S MAIN RESEARCHER IS FOR COPPELL, BUT THAT IS PART OF THEIR JOB.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION FROM.

AS FOR THE OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S IT'S YOU HEAR IT A LOT, BUT I DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT HAPPENING.

YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

ESPECIALLY AUSTIN'S GOT A LOT OF VACANT, BUT IT'S I THINK IT'S AN EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR TO GO IN THERE AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE THIS HAPPEN OVER HERE IN COPPELL. HAS THIS HAPPEN A LOT? WE HAVE MORE THAN 1800 HOMES, WHICH WERE COMMERCIAL AND CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PROPOSITION THAN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING FLIPPING TO A RESIDENTIAL LOT.

I MEAN, I THINK MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE CULPRITS HERE, BUT I THINK IT WAS IT WAS A VACANT LOT, BUT ZONED COMMERCIAL.

THEN THEY FIXED IT. THE THE NATURE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOW ARE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE VACANT AND BEEN VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND IS THAT THE TREND THAT YOU'RE SEEING OF THOSE TYPE OF BUILDINGS, PRE-BUILT AND ZONED COMMERCIAL IS FLIPPING TO RESIDENTIAL? I HAVE NOT SEEN IT, BUT I'VE HEARD IT TALKED ABOUT.

I'VE HEARD IT TALKED. I'D BE CURIOUS ON THE NEXT REPORT IN THE FALL, LIKE EANES ISD COMES TO MIND.

SO SOME OF THIS IS HAPPENING TO AUSTIN, AND EANES IS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF AN APPLES TO APPLES WITH COPPELL, WITH IT BEING A DESTINATION SCHOOL DISTRICT.

LIKE, IS ANY OF THIS HAPPENING IN OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS? BECAUSE IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE A GREAT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND A CITY CAN GET MORE TAX REVENUE FROM SOMETHING.

RIGHT? SO I JUST I JUST WONDER WITH THE NATURE OF US BEING A GOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF THAT COULD HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THOSE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

AND ENES IS SAYING SOMETHING, BOB'S ACTUALLY ENES IS LEAD CONSULTANT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S GOOD FOR YOU GUYS. SO HE CAN PROBABLY TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BETTER THAN I.

I DO KNOW THAT ENES IS SEEING SOME SIMILAR TRENDS.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE THEIR BIG 12TH GRADE, AND SO THEY DO HAVE SOME OF THAT SAME STUFF GOING ON, AND IT'S HAPPENING QUITE A BIT.

EVEN IN LARGER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, IT'S EVEN MORE PREVALENT.

BUT YEAH, I'LL TELL HIM THAT ENES WOULD BE A GOOD THEY PROBABLY WOULD BE A GOOD COMPARISON FOR YOU GUYS.

AND BEING RIGHT THERE IN AUSTIN, THEY THEY HAVE SOME SOME SIMILAR.

YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A GOOD MIX OF MULTIFAMILY AS WELL IN ENES.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH COMMERCIAL.

WHAT'S THAT? ENES DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH AS WE DO.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FOR ROCKY? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

YEAH, YEAH.

THANK YOU SIR. WELL, LIKE I SAID IN THE INTRO, WE'RE GOING TO BE SEGUEING RIGHT INTO OUR BUDGET CHALLENGES PORTION OF THE WORKSHOP AND PICKING

[VI.B. 2024-2025 & 2025-2026 Budget Planning Discussion - Diana Sircar, (Chief Financial Officer) (SPPG4) (FOS)]

WE HAD THAT SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED A FEW WEEKS AGO.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL LITTLE SMALL FOCUS GROUPS.

SHE'S GOING TO GO MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THAT.

ONE THING THAT WE DID RECEIVE A FEEDBACK ON, BOTH DURING OUR COMMUNITY DIALOG AND THOSE SMALL FOCUS GROUPS, HAS BEEN, WHAT ABOUT THE SURVEY? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE RESULTS? AND WE WANTED TO SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD FIRST BEFORE WE SHARED IT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANGELA.

THANK YOU.

I'M JUST GOING TO DIG IN AND GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SO FAR IN OUR ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.

JUST TO NOT JUST FOR YOU, BUT FOR OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE.

WE'VE PROVIDED SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR STAFF AND FAMILIES, STUDENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO GET INVOLVED IN OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.

AND SO ONE OF THOSE WAS OUR BUDGET COMMUNITY DIALOG LAST THURSDAY AND OUR ONLINE SURVEY, WE WILL BE HOLDING A FACEBOOK LIVE ON MAY THE 1ST.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN JUST A SECOND.

WE HAVE WE HAVE A ROBUST BUDGET WEBSITE BUILT OUT.

[00:35:03]

THIS ONE VIDEO. WE'RE LAUNCHING A SECOND VIDEO TONIGHT.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO TO DO THOSE AS WE GIVE UPDATES.

OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD BOARD MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS, AND AFTER EVERY ONE OF THOSE, WE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN HOLDING PRESENTATIONS AND FOCUS GROUPS FOR OUR STAFF, PARENTS, STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE DID HAVE ON OUR SURVEY, 244 PEOPLE TOOK THAT SURVEY.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE NINE PRESENTATIONS TO DIFFERENT GROUPS.

AT OUR PRESENTATIONS WE'VE HAD 210 PEOPLE ATTEND.

WE HAD ABOUT 45 PEOPLE AT OUR COMMUNITY DIALOG EVENT, FOR A TOTAL OF 255.

AND SO PEOPLE HAVE ENGAGED SO FAR IS ABOUT 499 ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE PLANNED 43 PRESENTATIONS.

THAT NUMBER MAY GROW, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW IS 43.

SO I THINK WE'RE DOING A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AROUND WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT GROUPS AS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I WANTED TO DIG IN TO KIND OF THE, THE SURVEY RESULTS.

I PUT EVERYTHING IN HERE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK THROUGH ALL OF IT.

I'M REALLY DID IT FOR TRANSPARENCY SO THAT THE VIEWING AUDIENCE CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE DECK AND SEE ALL OF THE PIECES.

SO I JUST AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PIECES ON THE SLIDES BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THAT.

WE ARE GOING TO HOLD ON MAY THE 1ST AT 6:30 P.M., A FACEBOOK LIVE.

AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET SO THAT MORE PEOPLE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE.

IN THE CONVERSATION, MORE INFORMATION WILL BE ABOUT SHARED ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO THAT DATE.

SO WE DID HAVE 244 PEOPLE TAKE OUR ONLINE SURVEY.

YOU CAN SEE HERE 68% OF THOSE WERE PARENTS.

42% OF THOSE WERE STAFF MEMBERS.

AND THEN KIND OF A VARYING AMOUNT OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO TOOK IT.

ALL 18 CAMPUSES WERE REPRESENTED IN SOME WAY.

AND THE ISD ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, THEY JUST ACKNOWLEDGED WHERE THEY HAD AN AFFILIATION WITH, AND THEY COULD PICK MULTIPLE OPTIONS IF THEY HAVE CHILDREN AT DIFFERENT OR IF THEY WORK IT AT A CAMPUS.

SO THE QUESTION, THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE ASKED THEM, WHAT ARE YOUR TOP THREE PROGRAMS, OFFERINGS OR SERVICES THAT YOU VALUE MOST IN COPPELL ISD? AND SO I DID I PUT IT ANALYZED IT BY PRIORITY ONE, TWO AND THREE.

AND THEN I DID IT BY TOTAL.

AND THIS IS SO THE LARGEST NUMBER TO THE LEAST NUMBER.

SO FINE ARTS AS A TOTAL CAME UP AS THE FIRST CHOICE CHOICE PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDED IB, DLI AND NEW TECH.

THEY HAD TO MENTION ONE OR MORE OF THOSE SPECIAL EDUCATION GREAT TEACHING AND QUALITY INSTRUCTION, ATHLETICS, STEAM STEM CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND ENRICHMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

GIFTED AND LIBRARY FOR A VIEWING AUDIENCE.

I'M GOING TO YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ON THE PRESENTATION.

I'M GOING TO MOVE PAST THOSE BECAUSE THERE WAS PAGES AND PAGES OF WHAT THEY VALUED, INCLUDING THE VERY LAST ONE, GRADUATION.

THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WE DID WAS WHAT INNOVATION? WHAT INNOVATIVE APPROACHES OR STRATEGIES DO YOU SUGGEST FOR GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE? WE WANT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BRILLIANT COMMUNITY, AND WE WANTED TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY CREATIVE IDEAS OR ANY THOUGHTS.

AND SO HERE'S HERE ARE THE TOP ANSWERS.

EXPAND OPEN ENROLLMENT EXPAND BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS, FACILITY RENTALS FUNDRAISING, PAY FOR PRE-K, MARKETING AND ADVERTISING, AND THEN FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OR FINANCIAL PLANNING.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE DO MANY OF THESE WE HAVE LOTS OF BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS.

WE DO FACILITY RENTALS CONSTANTLY.

WE DO FUNDRAISING, WE DO MARKETING AND ADVERTISING.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

AGAIN. THERE ARE LOTS OF OPTIONS.

DISCUSSING THE VERY LAST ONE WAS TEACHER INCENTIVE ALLOTMENT AS A WAY TO GENERATE REVENUE.

THE LAST QUESTION WAS IN WHAT WAYS CAN THE DISTRICT EXPLORE POTENTIAL AREAS FOR COST REDUCTION? AND SO 50 OF THE PEOPLE WHO FILLED OUT THE SURVEY OF THE 244 SAID CAMPUS OR BUILDING CONSOLIDATION, 45 OF THOSE TALKED ABOUT CAMPUSES, SPECIFICALLY, FIVE OF THOSE TALKED ABOUT ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS, REDUCE OR ELIMINATE TECHNOLOGY.

THIS WAS MORE ABOUT DEVICES.

SO THIS WAS DEFINITELY DEVICES ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT FOUR DAY SCHOOL WEEK OR ADJUSTING THE SCHOOL CALENDAR.

SO ADJUSTING KIND OF THE CALENDAR WE HAD REDUCING STAFF POSITIONS AND SPENDING LESS ON ATHLETICS.

LET'S ROCK. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST ONE?

[00:40:02]

I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SAID AROUND THE ADMIN BUILDINGS.

SO COMBINING THE THREE ADMIN BUILDINGS OR GETTING US TO TO THREE ADMIN BUILDINGS OR SELLING THE ADMIN BUILDINGS, THERE WERE, THERE WERE OPTIONS AND THOUGHTS.

FIVE PEOPLE JUST HAD COMMENTS ABOUT OUR THREE ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS, I SEE.

OKAY, NOW I UNDERSTAND. SO 45 OF THEM TALKED ABOUT CAMPUS.

THANK YOU OKAY. CONSOLIDATION FIVE TALKED ABOUT ADMIN BUILDINGS.

SO WHAT CAN WE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH OUR ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS.

YOU SAID REDUCE OR ELIMINATE TECHNOLOGY.

WAS THAT LIKE, JUST LIKE DO AWAY WITH DEVICES? YES IT WAS.

IT WAS MAINLY ABOUT DEVICES.

NOT EVERY ONE OF THEM, BUT A LOT ABOUT DEVICES.

THE USE OF DEVICES.

SO AND THEN FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE, IF YOU LIKE TO SEE THE REST OF THEM, WE HAVE THEM ALL LISTED ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU, INCLUDING THE TO THE VERY LAST ONES, AS I'VE DONE IT, ALL THE OTHERS. SOMEONE REQUESTED A VERY SPECIFIC ONE, VERY SPECIFIC PROGRAM ON SPECIAL EDUCATION, AND THEN WE ASKED FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.

AND REALLY, THIS WAS ALL KINDS.

IT WAS ALL KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT THE MAJORITY WAS THANK YOU FOR ASKING AND FOR PROVIDING THE SURVEY.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.

REMEMBER, WE THEN ON OUR APRIL THE 4TH COMMUNITY DIALOG, WE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS.

THIS WAS 45 PEOPLE WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE.

AND WE HAD MOST OF IT WAS IN A LOT OF DIALOG AND DISCUSSION SO THAT THE RESPONSES WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE HAD ROBUST CONVERSATION. BUT SO ON THE QUESTIONS OF WHAT PROGRAMS, OFFERINGS OR SERVICES DO YOU VALUE MOST? CHOICE PROGRAMS IB, DLI, NEW TECH, CAREER, TECHNICAL EDUCATION, FINE ARTS, STEAM, STEM AND THEN CAREER COLLEGE MILITARY READINESS. SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD LEAD TO WORKFORCE READINESS WE KIND OF PUT IN THAT AREA.

NEXT QUESTION. SAME QUESTION THAT WE DID BEFORE.

WHAT INNOVATIVE APPROACHES OR STRATEGIES DO YOU SUGGEST FOR GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE, ATTENDANCE, CAMPAIGN, EXPANDING OPEN ENROLLMENT, BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS, MARKETING, AND THEN ADVOCACY WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATORS? IN WHAT WAYS CAN WE REDUCE OUR COSTS? AND SO CAMPUS BUILDING CONSOLIDATION, EXPLORE JOB SHARING AND VOLUNTEERS.

THERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS THERE.

AND THEN ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.

REALLY, IT WAS ABOUT COMMUNICATING OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND ADVOCACY WITH OUR LEGISLATORS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY DATA THAT WE'VE COLLECTED SO FAR? KEEP IN MIND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE HIGHER NUMBERS, BUT THOSE THAT DID GAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, OPINIONS, THEIR VOICE WAS HEARD.

AND EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A SMALLER GROUP AT THE COMMUNITY DIALOG LAST THURSDAY, THOSE INDIVIDUALS GOT A LOT OF ONE ON ONE ATTENTION.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, EVEN WITH SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, WHICH WAS GREAT, I THINK, TO THE POINT YOU JUST MADE.

I MEAN, GIVEN THE THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION, I GUESS, YOU KNOW THE TOPIC, IT IS DISAPPOINTING WE'RE NOT GETTING GREATER NUMBERS, BUT KUDOS TO YOU GUYS AND YOUR TEAM, ANGELA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF TRYING AND PUSHING INFORMATION OUT.

I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS THREE EMAILS LAST WEEK ABOUT THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT MEETING OR THURSDAY NIGHT I FORGOT WHAT NIGHT IT WAS NOW.

BUT AND IT'S TOUGH.

IT'S A BUSY TIME OF THE YEAR, BUT THESE ARE SERIOUS TOPICS AND IT'S ABOUT TO GET EVEN MORE REAL.

SO WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT.

BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, AS ANGELA SAID, WE ADDED THAT FACEBOOK LIVE ON MAY 1ST BECAUSE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT WAS, I WANT TO BE THERE, BUT THERE WAS THIS EVENT, OR I HAVE TO DO THIS, OR JUST BUSY TIME OF THE YEAR.

IT'S ALSO HARD, I KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO GET AWAY FROM HOME DURING THAT TIME SO THEY'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO PLUG IN ONLINE, BUT THIS IS A TIME THAT PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEIR VOICE IS BEING HEARD, BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS WORK, AND ENGAGEMENT IS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF OUR CORE VALUES.

BUT I KNOW THIS IS ALSO A SPECIFIC EXPECTATION FROM OUR BOARD RELATED TO THIS TOPIC, AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE MORE.

WE WOULD. WE'VE ALREADY POSTED THE PRESENTATION TO THE BUDGET WEBSITE, AND WE ARE COLLECTING ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THROUGH INPUT.

WE HAVE ONLY HAD A COUPLE, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.

AND IF I SEE, I WILL CONTINUE TO KIND OF UPDATE THIS INFORMATION SO I CAN BRING BACK IF WE'VE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT KIND OF STANDS OUT OR IS DIFFERENT.

SO AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE MAY THE 1ST FACEBOOK LIVE.

SO I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THIS.

THIS IS EXTREMELY ROBUST AND ENGAGED.

I LOVE IT. AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE KEEP IT UP RIGHT CONSISTENT BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE ENGAGE AT DIFFERENT PARTS.

[00:45:06]

SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN ALL FRONT LOAD THE ENGAGEMENT AND THEN SAY, OH, OKAY, NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, WHICH IS EXACTLY IT LOOKS LIKE THE PLAN IS HAPPENING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME ONLINE AS IT BECOMES MORE TARGETED OR MORE SPECIFIC, OR YOU AWARE OR AWARE.

SO I WOULD JUST ADD MY VOICE TO THAT, THAT THIS IS AN AN EXCELLENT START AND LET'S JUST KEEP IT UP.

I WANT TO JUST TAG ON TO THAT.

I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CAMPAIGN EVENTS, AND I CAN TELL YOU EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS KNOWN ABOUT THE BUDGET SITUATION, SO IT MAY NOT FEEL LIKE WE'RE REACHING AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE WANT TO, BUT THERE ARE ENGAGED PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLETELY DIALED INTO WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS IT IS WORKING RIGHT ON THAT.

AND LET'S BE REAL, THESE ARE NOT NEW TOPICS FOR US.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

CORRECT. BUT THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT TO.

OKAY, WELL, THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RANNA.

THANK YOU ANGELA, AND GREAT JOB.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING TO ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES.

THIS IS A LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

SOME OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY LISTED ON THE SURVEY, BUT UPDATING OUR FACILITY RENTAL AND TRANSPORTATION FEES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING ANY INCREASED COSTS. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A DEPARTMENT AND CAMPUS OVERALL BUDGET REDUCTION AND LOOKING AT RESTRICTING TRAVEL EXPENSE, ESPECIALLY OUT OF STATE, UTILIZING EMPLOYEE ATTRITION AND STRATEGICALLY REDUCING PAYROLL.

AND THAT INCLUDES ALL AREAS INCLUDING ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS AND SUPPORT POSITIONS.

SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR 2425 AND 2526 INCLUDES SOME ADDITIONAL MAXIMIZATION OF USING STAFF THROUGH MASTER SCHEDULING, AUDITING, SOME OF OUR CURRENT PRACTICES, INCLUDING STUDENT AND STAFF CODING THAT WE HAVE IN TEAMS, THAT DRIVES FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE MAXIMUM FUNDING THAT IS DUE TO US, AND ENSURING WE'RE USING THE APPROPRIATE STAFFING RATIOS.

THAT INCLUDES DISTRICT LEVEL STAFFING AS WELL AS CAMPUS LEVEL STAFFING, AND THEN AGAIN FOCUSING ON ATTENDANCE IMPROVEMENT.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON.

THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT ARE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU REQUESTED FROM OUR LAST WORKSHOP.

AND SO THESE ARE THE TOPICS.

MORE INFORMATION ON THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION, THE OPEN ENROLLMENT PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO SOME DATA THAT YOU REQUESTED ABOUT ADOPTED BUDGETS AND PAYROLL AND PRE-K AND COST OF PER CAMPUS AND CAPACITIES, ETC. AFTER EACH ONE OF THESE SECTIONS, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS OR DISCUSS.

SO WE WILL JUST MOVE AHEAD.

THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION.

AGAIN, WE HAVE 3.17 PENNIES.

THOSE ARE COPPER PENNIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WHICH WOULD BRING APPROXIMATELY $2.4 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR COPPELL ISD.

THE TAX IMPACT OF THAT ON THE AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN COPPELL WOULD BE ABOUT $147.

THERE MAY ALSO BE SOME COMPRESSION OF THE MILL RATE.

IF COPPELL ISD VALUES RISE, THEN THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL COMPRESSION.

WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS UNTIL ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST.

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW HOW MUCH THE VALUES RISE AND HOW MUCH COMPRESSION THAT WILL TAKE.

SO WE WOULD KNOW THAT BEFORE IN PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE THE ELECTION, THOUGH, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THE BOARD CHOSE TO CALL.

SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE, IS TO SELECTING THE AUDITOR FOR THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICKLY SO THAT THAT AUDIT CAN TAKE PLACE AND WE CAN GET THOSE RESULTS BACK.

ADDITIONALLY THERE IS A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAVE USUALLY AT THE END OF AUGUST WHERE WE DISCUSS THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE.

THAT MEETING WOULD NEED TO BE MOVED UP TO MONDAY, AUGUST THE 19TH, BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAST DAY THAT THE BOARD COULD ORDER A VADER ELECTION.

SO THE PROCESS IS PUBLIC MEETING.

DISCUSS. THE BOARD ADOPTS THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE AND THEN ORDERS THE ELECTION.

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SO THE BEST PRACTICE IS TO CONDUCT THAT EFFICIENCY AUDIT THE SUMMER BEFORE CALLING THE ELECTION.

IT'S DESIGNED TO PROVIDE VOTERS INFORMATION AND COMPARES PRIOR YEAR INFORMATION AND PEER DISTRICT INFORMATION.

AS I SAID, THE PUBLIC MEETING AND THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN BY AUGUST THE 19TH.

THE TAX RATE THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED AT THAT AUGUST 19TH BOARD MEETING WOULD BE THE ONE THAT VOTERS WOULD VOTE ON IN NOVEMBER THEN.

SO IT WOULD BE AT THAT HIGHER RATE.

IF VOTERS APPROVE THE RATE IN NOVEMBER, THE TAX RATE IS SET.

IF THE VOTERS DID NOT APPROVE THAT TAX RATE IN NOVEMBER, THEN THE BOARD WOULD NEED TO ADOPT A NEW TAX RATE RELATIVELY QUICKLY, BECAUSE THEN TAX BILLS WOULD ALL HAVE TO GO OUT.

THERE, OF COURSE, IS SOME STICKY VERBIAGE THAT GOES ON THE BALLOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT OF TALKING ABOUT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TELLING THEM AND HOW IT RECONCILES TO THE BALLOT, BECAUSE THE BALLOTS COMPARING PRIOR YEAR, AND WE WOULD BE TELLING THEM THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD BE GETTING $2.4 MILLION, THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER THAT WOULD END UP ON THE BALLOT.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EDUCATE EVERYBODY ON HOW THAT BALLOT LANGUAGE WORKS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

SO. THE BEST PRACTICE IS TO DO THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT THE SUMMER BEFORE.

IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? IT HAS BEEN STRONGLY SUGGESTED.

I'VE ASKED TWO SEPARATE SOURCES, AND THEY BOTH SUGGEST THAT, YES, THE BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE TO DO IT THE SUMMER BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GIVE NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION.

AND GIVEN THAT WE HAD PASSED THE BOND LAST SPRING AND THERE IS WORK THAT'S BEING DONE RELATED TO CAMPUSES AND SUCH, I THINK IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT IT BE AS CURRENT AS POSSIBLE.

WHAT'S THE COST OF AN EFFICIENCY AUDIT? AGAIN, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND $25,000.

THE QUOTES THAT I HAVE HEARD.

I HAVE A QUESTION FROM BEFORE WE MOVED INTO THE BETA, THE CURRENT EFFORTS THAT STAFF IS MAKING AND THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE THINK WE CAN SAVE FROM THE BUDGET OR THE BOTTOM LINE OR THIS GAP WE'RE TRYING TO FILL? SO FAR, WE'VE IDENTIFIED ABOUT $675,000 IN EXPENDITURE SAVINGS, 260,000 IN NEW REVENUE, ABOUT $1 MILLION IN HOW MUCH IN NEW? 262 60 ABOUT A MILLION IN ATTRITION SO FAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT MATTERS. I NEED TO KNOW THAT.

YES. I WONDER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THIS, SO I'LL JUST I'M GOING TO TRY AND ARTICULATE IT.

WE JUST ASKED FOR A BOND.

SO I THINK MY MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY WAY TO BE ABLE TO JUDGE HOW OUR COMMUNITY WOULD FEEL ABOUT THIS IN THE TIMING OF IT? I MEAN, IS THAT AVAILABLE TO US IN ANY WAY? DO PEOPLE DO THAT IN ANY WAY OR DO YOU JUST GO FOR IT? IT WOULD BE A SURVEY.

AGAIN, I'M SORRY, BUT AGAIN, IT DEPENDS UPON THE PARTICIPATION RATE TO GAUGE.

SO I'M SORRY. NO I'M SORRY.

SO LIKE WE DID FOR THE BOND, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, HIRE A SIMILAR FIRM LIKE WE DID WITH BARCLAYS AND HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.

THE BIG IDEAS, LIKE HOW DO WE SET OURSELVES UP FOR SUCCESS? AND WHAT THAT'S MY QUESTION AS A BOARD MEMBER IS WHAT'S THE TIMING THAT WOULD SET US UP FOR SUCCESS? I AGREE WITH YOU. AND I THINK MAYBE BUILDING ON YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS.

LEE LIKE MY WORRY IS THE NICKEL AND DIME EFFECT, RIGHT? WE JUST HAD THAT HUGE OR A HUGE BOND ELECTION.

THAT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED.

I JUST WORRY THAT COMING BACK TO BACK ON ELECTIONS AND TAX RATE INCREASES HURTS OUR CHANCES.

TO YOUR YOUR SENTIMENT.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS BROWN.

SO MOST OF THE OTHER BOND AND OTHER ITEMS GO IN MAY ELECTIONS.

AND THAT'S A VERY TARGETED BECAUSE THEY ARE PLUGGED INTO MUNICIPALITY ACTIVITIES.

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ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN COPPELL DISTRICT AREA.

SO THE STRATEGY PROBABLY HAS TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND IF YOU HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THAT STRATEGY OF COMMUNICATION WOULD BE IF YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT IT, PLEASE.

I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT A LOT IN MY PREVIOUS ROLE IN A PREVIOUS DISTRICT I DID.

I HAD A I HAD A MEASURE ON THAT ELECTION.

AND IT PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY.

AND SO I WOULD USE SOME OF THOSE SAME STRATEGIES.

YOU KNOW, IT IT IS ABOUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INFORMED VOTERS BECAUSE THE I ANTICIPATE THE NUMBERS WILL BE HIGH.

COMING TO THE POLLS ON A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

SO BUT YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR BEST.

YOU TO EDUCATE AND INFORM, AND WE WILL HAVE TO GO BROAD AND WIDE IN OUR IN, IN EDUCATING THE, THE VOTERS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BACK.

WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS INSTEAD OF USUALLY WE GO BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS TO ELECTIONS.

WE WILL GO BACK TO WHO VOTED.

AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THAT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

AND TARGET THOSE PEOPLE FOR INFORMATION.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO A TRUE TARGETED CAMPAIGN, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE TO GET TO JUST TO INFORM THEM.

DO YOU HAVE MORE FOLLOW UP? SO ONE THING I'M SITTING HERE MULLING OVER IS WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT WE SENT OUT.

AND LIKE, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE CHARGED A FEE FOR BUSSES, BUS TRANSPORTATION OR MORE.

THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO BE CHARGED FOR ACTIVITIES.

I MEAN, WHEN MY KIDS WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL, WE WE HIT THE FAMILY.

MAX, ON WHAT YOU WERE CHARGED FOR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.

AND SO I'M SITTING HERE WONDERING, AS A TAXPAYER, WOULD OUR COMMUNITY RATHER PAY A SLIGHTLY HIGHER TAX RATE, OR WOULD THEY RATHER US POTENTIALLY HAVE TO NICKEL AND DIME THEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY WITH, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO YOUR FAMILY? HOWEVER, IT COULD REALLY HIT SOME FAMILIES MORE THAN INCREASING THE TAX RATE.

I MEAN, YOU SAY INCREASE THE TAX RATE.

IT'S A PRETTY NEGLIGIBLE AMOUNT, GENERALLY SPEAKING.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE.

YOU KNOW, FOR EVERYBODY.

BUT WE WERE CHARGING $150 PER KID FOR EXTRACURRICULARS WITH A THREE CHILD MAXIMUM AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

I'M JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WONDERING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD RATHER.

I THINK WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT TOO, BECAUSE WE KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE, SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE, SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.

WHAT IS THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT LOOK AT? IT COMPARES.

IT COMPARES THE DISTRICT'S STATISTICS, THINGS LIKE YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR STUDENT TEACHER RATIO.

IT COMPARES YOUR COST OF YOUR CAMPUSES.

IT'S LOOKING AT A LOT OF COMPARISON DATA TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC CAN SEE HOW THE DISTRICT MATCHES UP TO ITS PEERS. IT'S IT'S LOOKING AT A LOT OF FINANCIAL DATA AND JUST.

THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M WONDERING, WOULD IT HELP US IN ANY RESPECT, IDENTIFY PLACES WHERE WE'RE BEING INEFFICIENT IF WE ARE, AND THEN SOMETHING WE COULD COURSE CORRECT AFTERWARDS. MEANING? SO IF YOU WENT, AT LEAST WE DID THE STEPS TO TAKE IT AND DO THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT.

WE DO THE SURVEY AND SEE WHAT THE SURVEY YOU KNOW, AND PLAN FOR IT.

WE COULD ULTIMATELY DECIDE NOT TO, BUT IF WE IS SPENDING 15 TO 20,000, GOOD, BECAUSE IT MIGHT HELP US IDENTIFY SOMETHING TO WHERE WE ARE BEING EFFICIENT ON IT. WE CAN COURSE CORRECT WITHOUT GOING FOR EVADER IN BIGGER SAVINGS AND SAVINGS, IS WHAT I'M WONDERING, IS THAT USUALLY THE OUTCOME OF THOSE OR.

I THINK IT COULD, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW AND WHAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD FIND ON THAT EFFICIENCY SURVEY.

SO IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY ABOUT LIKE BRINGING A THIRD PARTY IN TO BE LIKE, DON'T JUST LISTEN TO US.

LOOK AT THIS THIRD PARTY PERSON TO SAY WHO'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND YOU SAID LAST TIME, IF WE HAD THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT THIS SUMMER, DIDN'T CALL THE VADER, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER EFFICIENCY AUDIT NEXT YEAR TO CALL A VADER A YEAR LATER, AND IT HAS TO BE ON A NOVEMBER BALLOT.

YES IT DOES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S REMEMBERING THOSE DETAILS.

RIGHT. I THINKING ABOUT ON THAT SAME LINE THAT LET'S SAY THIS YEAR WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE, LIKE THINKING ABOUT WE JUST PASSED THE BOND.

WE DO OUR RESEARCH, OUR HOMEWORK FOR AS IF WE ARE GOING TO GO FOR VADER, BUT WE DON'T THIS YEAR

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WOULD THAT HELP? MEANWHILE, WE WOULD GET COMMUNITY SURVEY.

RIGHT. WE WOULD STILL LIKELY NEED TO DO ANOTHER EFFICIENCY AUDIT, BUT IT WOULD IT WOULD BASICALLY BE AN UPDATE TO THE ONE THAT WE'VE HAD LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE. AND WE ARE ALREADY IN APRIL.

IT'S JUST NOW THE THE LATEST THAT THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT PUBLISHED IS IN OCTOBER.

IT'S OCTOBER THE 6TH.

YEAH. HOWEVER, THE FIRMS I'VE TALKED TO SAY THAT THEY LIKE TO DO THESE IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY HAVE THE TIME TO DO THIS STUFF. OCTOBER THE 6TH WOULD BE VERY RUSHED.

BASICALLY THE AUDITOR WOULD THAT THE LAST DAY THEY CAN PROVIDE THE REPORT IS OCTOBER THE 5TH, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PUBLISH THAT ON OCTOBER THE 6TH.

AND MEANWHILE YOU HAVE ALREADY CALLED THE ELECTION.

SO IT'S A IT'S A LITTLE ODD, SOME OF THE TIMING.

OVER WHITE FERRIES.

WHY THE SUGGESTION COAST THAT IF YOU SOME HAVE AN EFFICIENCY SAYING THE AUDIT DONE THAT THAT BE PEOPLE PRIOR TO CALLING THE ELECTION LAND.

I'M JUST COLLECTING INFORMATION.

THINKING OUT LOUD. THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING IS IF WE DO IT THIS YEAR, WE'LL NEED TO GET THE AUDIT.

WE'LL NEED TO SPEND TIME AND MONEY IN COMMUNICATION BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR, NOT A REGULAR NOVEMBER YEAR OR SO THE PARTICIPATION, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS MORE THAN 80% FOR COPPELL.

IT WAS RIDICULOUS. IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO ONE OF PERFECT WORLD WHERE EVERY CITIZEN SHOULD VOTE.

SO THE TIME AND EFFORTS AND THE RESOURCES, BOTH HUMAN AND FINANCIAL WILL BE REALLY HIGH AND IN A VERY SHORT TIME.

AND IF IT DOES NOT GO IN OUR FAVOR, WE'LL HAVE TO DO ALL THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

SO WHAT WE'RE RISKING IS THE TIME AND EFFORT, ALL THE RESOURCES.

MONEY'S SPENT THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE TO SPEND THAT NEXT YEAR.

BUT WHAT WE GAIN IS OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS PROMISED.

LIKE, WE'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON DOING EVERYTHING WITH COMMUNITY CONSENT AND FLIPPING.

IF WE DO GET A BAD NEWS, IT DOESN'T GO IN OUR FAVOR.

WE CAN FLIP IT TO OUR.

SEE THE SILVER LINING THAT, HEY, IT'S GIVING US ANOTHER YEAR OPPORTUNITY OF OUTREACHING TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S CONSIDERING BOTH PROS AND CONS.

I SEE VALUE IN DOING THE EFFORT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY BIG STEP.

AND COPPELL DISTRICT HASN'T GONE THROUGH.

WAITER. AND MORE THAN TEN YEARS.

ANTHONY. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE TO ANSWER.

A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE COMMUNITIES CHANGE BECAUSE AS THE COMMUNITIES REGENERATE, PEOPLE WHO VOTED LAST TIME, THEY MAY NOT.

MOST OF THEM MAY NOT BE EVEN LIVING IN THAT DISTRICT, COPPELL DISTRICT.

SO WE DO HAVE OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US.

AND IF SOMETHING DOES TAKE TWO YEARS, IT MAY NOT BE A BAD THING.

THAT'S WHERE I'M READING.

ONE OVERARCHING THOUGHT I HAVE IS JUST A WE.

I THINK WE COMMITTED TO EXPLORING EVERY REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD BE BEFORE YOU TAKE ANY, ANY CUTS OR GO INTO THE DEPTH OF THE CUTS. AND THIS IS LIKE THE LAST LEVER THAT WE HAVE TO PULL IN TERMS. SORRY TO CUT YOU, BUT THAT'S A GREAT POINT, RIGHT? IF IF IT GOES IN OUR FAVOR, IT GETS US TWO PLUS MILLION DOLLARS EXTRA, THAT MUCH MORE STUFF WE CAN SUPPORT THAT MUCH LESS CUTS WILL HAVE TO DO.

SO. IT'S A HUGE POSITIVE OF THAT TOO.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE POINT, RIGHT? AND IF IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAD UNLOCKED THE FUNDING LIKE YOU WOULD, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE IN THE POSITION.

BUT THIS IS LIKE THE BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY TYPE OF MEASURE.

RIGHT, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN SALVAGE.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I POSITION AGAINST ANY OTHER CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT WE MAKE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE GENERATE FUNDS AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO SO.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO HAVE LIKE A BAKE SALE, I'LL MAKE A MAKE A PIE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE THAT MANY TO SELL, YOU KNOW, ON A PIE.

PIE FOR SURE. TO BE DELICIOUS.

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THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER, TOO, IS THAT IF THE LEGISLATURE INCREASES THE BASIC ALLOTMENT IN ANY YEAR, THEY DO THAT.

IT FURTHER COMPRESSES THE COPPER PENNIES THAT DISTRICTS HAVE.

SO I BELIEVE YOU'RE YOU SHOULD EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE A CYCLE OF VADER ELECTIONS ALL OVER THE STATE AS PEOPLE'S PENNIES GET COMPRESSED.

THERE HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER BECAUSE WE'RE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THEIR GOLDEN PENNIES OR ANY OF THEIR COPPER PENNIES.

AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT.

LET ME LET ME KNOW AND SEEING THIS INFORMATION, DOES STAFF HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OR A FEELING BECAUSE THE BULK OF THIS WORK WOULD FALL ON YOU GUYS AS WELL.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS, BEING THE EXPERTS, WHAT YOU WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD RECOMMEND SAY WE'RE READY TO TAKE ON WHATEVER CHALLENGE IS DIRECTED TO US FROM THE BOARD. WE JUST HAVE A LOT TO DO.

AND SO IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION YOU ALL WANT TO GO, THE SOONER WE KNOW THAT, THE BETTER.

NOT JUST TO ADHERE TO THOSE TIMELINES, BUT AS YOU SAID, IT DOES PUT A LOT ON STAFF, BUT WE'RE READY TO TAKE THAT.

WE JUST NEED THE DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE FROM THE BOARD.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SAID IT LIKE JOVI VERY CLEARLY.

I MEAN, I HAVE CONCERNS.

CLEARLY IN ONE REGARD.

ON THE OTHER, IT IS PURELY IS IT'S AN IF THEN CONDITIONAL STATEMENT, RIGHT? IF WE DO THIS, THEN WE CAN POTENTIALLY NOT DO SOMETHING ELSE.

POTENTIALLY IT COULD POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE AND OR AND WE HAVE TO DO MORE.

BUT IT, IT AT LEAST GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF FIGHTING CHANCE I THINK MORE THAN WE HAVE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING.

IT'S A TOUGH WORK ALL THE WAY AROUND MY BUT MY NIECE'S WHOLE POINT ON THE EFFICIENCY, SINCE NOTHING BAD CAN COME ABOUT THAT BECAUSE EITHER SAYS HEY AND WHAT THE YOU GUYS FOR INFLATION GOT YOUR STUFF TOGETHER.

SEE YOU'RE DOING IT FORWARD OR IT POKE.

AND YEAH, OUR FINANCES ALSO FROZE US AREAS THAT WE NEED TO WORK DEBATE.

SO SELLING THE WELL AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO THOSE ACTIONS I TWO YEAH IC WHEN INSIDE AGENCY HISTORIC DIANA ALREADY EXIST.

WE'RE SEEK SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE OR ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOLS OF THEIR WITH STAFFERS AND SOME SIRCAR THAT WERE BEING CAN TELL BEING PROVIDED THROUGH WITH SERVICES WE'VE HAD THE GIBSON IS COME BACK TO SO THAT JUST HELPS US THERE ONLY TO WE HAVE OBJECT FROM ITS IS HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT TO GIVE US THEIR BACK AS WELL.

AND SO IF WE LEAVE HERE SAYING NOT COME WE WANT TO THERE IS MOVE FORWARD AND COME TO THE VADER.

THE WAY I'M READING THE TIMELINE.

SO SHE WOULD HAVE IT POTENTIALLY ON THE AUDIT OR THE JOBS REPORT BACK IN YOUR FLY BEFORE WE WERE OF LET'S CALL AN ELECTION, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD GIVE US THAT LIST OF STOCK GOT THINGS FOR DO BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTERS OR WE CAN GO TO THE VOTERS.

YES IT IS.

AND THAT EFFICIENCY IT REPORTS ON THINGS SUCH AS SMARTT ACCOUNTABILITY RATING THE AND WHAT CHARACTERISTICS WOULD FACE ATTENDANCE RATES INDICATE OTHER ONE SUCH AS YOUR DO RATES INDICATORS FOR DISTRICT EXPENDITURE.

ALL OF YOUR FUNDS BUT THEIR GUNS AND THEY MAY BRING THEM TO PEER ALL GOING TO LOOKING AT STAFF I WOULD STUDENT STUDENT TO CONTINUE OUR STUDENT TO TEACHER RATIOS FOR BALANCE.

NOT JUST ALL TYPES OF STATISTICS IS MINE FORWARD THAT DOES THE REQUIRE LIKE TO SELECT AN AUDITOR.

DOES THAT REQUIRE BOARD ACTION.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS.

IS THAT AN ADMINISTRATIVE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO? I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, BUT I CAN I JUST NEED TO GET SOME A BIT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SELECTING A.

YEAH. YEAH. THROUGH THE MOST UTILIZE OUR CAN TELL US IS BUT THAT PART I HAD REQUIRE BOARD APPROVAL.

THAT WOULD BE LIKE FOR DIANA SAID GOING THROUGH BUDGETING LAWS AS WE CALL YOU FOR SOMETHING OF THIS, I, I MEAN, IT'S FOR IT'S NOT LIKE CALLING THE OLD COMMON THAT REQUIRES PLATINUM. YEAH. WE SORRY.

YEAH. SO CONSIDERING I KNOW HOW HARD YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKED, GOING TO GET TO LOOK AT REVENUE, BUT GENERATION AND EXPENSE REDUCTION AND ALL OF EFFORTS HAVE WARRANTED $260,000 OF NEW REVENUE YEAR.

THE BIGGEST POTENTIAL AT RARE.

I WOULD BE IN ALL OF US DOING AN AUDIT TO BE ONLY BECAUSE IT FROM INFORMATION WE DON'T THAT HAVE TO HELP US MAKE A BETTER VIEWING ABOUT EVADER DESPITE.

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I WAS GOING TO BEAT NEXT YEAR'S EFFICIENT YEAR AUDIT WOULD BE MORE OF A THAT DATE.

IT PROBABLY WOULD BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE TAUGHT THE RANGE I HAD, CONSIDERING WHAT WE MIGHT WITH SAVE OR SOME THINGS SUPPLY REALIZE OTHER DAY SEEMS LIKE A SIZE INVESTMENT FOR SIGNIFICANT RAY POTENTIALLY.

AS A PARTNER TO THE TO THE AUDIT.

WOULD YOU LIKE A SURVEY TO SEE HOW OUR COMMUNITY FEELS? I TO ME I WOULD SAY YES, BUT TO ME IT'S A COMPARE AND CONTRAST.

WOULD YOU RATHER THIS OR RATHER THAT LIKE TO ME IT'S NOT AS MUCH A RANKING THING, IS IT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY WELL INFORMED AND KNOW WHAT THESE THINGS MEANT ON THE SURVEY.

AND WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE A FIRST GRADER, AND THEY'VE NEVER COME ACROSS EIGHT OF THE THINGS ON THE LIST, AND THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THOSE THINGS MIGHT BE.

SO TO ME, I WOULD RATHER A, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU RATHER A TAX INCREASE IN THIS DOLLAR RANGE OR WOULD YOU RATHER PAY, YOU KNOW, FOR MORE FOR EXTRACURRICULARS? WOULD YOU RATHER PAY FOR BUS SERVICE AT A HIGHER RATE, OR WOULD YOU RATHER PAY FOR EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES? I MEAN, TO ME, IF WE COULD USE THAT TO HELP US CALIBRATE A LITTLE BIT WHAT PEOPLE'S PREFERENCES MIGHT BE, BECAUSE SOME OF THE SURVEY RESULTS TO AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THEM SINCE WE GOT THEM, AND SOME OF THEM ARE IN DIRECT OPPOSITION OF EACH OTHER ON WHERE THEY WERE RANKED, AND SOME.

AND IT WAS JUST A CHANGING OF THE WORDING, WHICH IS WISE, BECAUSE THAT HELPS US GET TO THE SCIENCE OF WHAT THE REAL ANSWER IS.

BUT THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF, YOU KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MIGHT MEAN.

SO TO ME, I'D BE INTERESTED IN A COMPARING AND CONTRAST.

OR WOULD YOU RATHER TYPE OF SURVEY PROBABLY MORE THAN A RANK ORDER SURVEY.

WELL, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY TO HAVE AS MUCH PARTICIPATION AS POSSIBLE FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL STAKEHOLDERS, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAINLY PLENTY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT DO NOT HAVE KIDS IN CISD EITHER NEVER HAVE OR THEY'VE GRADUATED.

AND SO THEY WOULD BE PARTICIPATING IN THE ELECTION.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE INFORMED AND MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THAT TYPE OF A SURVEY BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE OUT OF THE DISTRICT.

SO THEY MAY HAVE EITHER IF THEY TOOK IT, WHAT MY KIDS DID DO, OR IF THEY DIDN'T.

RIGHT. JUST THIS IS MY OWN THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS FOR THE.

DIFFERENT CHANNELS TO BE USED TO.

FOR THE OUTREACH OF THE COMMUNITY WERE NOT PART OF COPPELL ISD.

RIGHT NOW. DON'T HAVE KIDS.

THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS ENROLLED RIGHT NOW.

I DIDN'T HEAR THE FIRST PART.

I'M SORRY. WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT CHANNELS WE USE? MAINLY SOCIAL MEDIA.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THOSE.

WE HAVE COMMUNITY NEWSPAPER, BUT NOT LIKE WE HAVE HAD HAD, YOU KNOW, IN THE DAY.

IT REALLY IS CONTENT, YOU KNOW, INCUMBENT UPON US TRYING TO BREAK THAT ENGAGEMENT BARRIER BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S IF YOU DON'T SIGN UP FOR INFORMED OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CHILD IN THE DISTRICT, THEN YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT GETTING SOME OF THOSE SAME TYPES OF EMAILS THAT WE SEND OUT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE HAVE THESE BIG COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, EVERY BOARD MEETING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT HAS HELPED US OUT.

IF YOU HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS, IF WE WERE, YES, AND DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, SOMETIMES WE MAIL TO, WE POST CARDS WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE OTHER MEANS. THERE ARE TIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE USE KIND OF EMAIL INSERTS TO A LARGER GROUP, AND WE DO HAVE A LARGE GROUP OF GOLD CARD MEMBERS AND WE SEND INFORMATION OUT TO THEM.

THEY'RE OVER 65, OVER 60.

AND WE SEND OUT TO THEM FOR REMEMBER FOR IF WE USE FOR A SURVEY JUST TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT WE DID DURING THE BOND, IT WOULD BE A RANDOM SAMPLING AND IT WOULD BE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO IT WOULD NOT BE TO OUR PARENTS, IT WOULD BE TO EVERYBODY.

AND IT'S BECAUSE IT IS A STATISTICALLY ACCURATE SURVEY.

SO THEY, THEY DO THEIR OWN RANDOM SAMPLING.

SO YOU WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FULL GAMUT OF PEOPLE.

AND IF WE USE BASELESS.

SO, ANGELA, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR ASK A QUESTION OF YOUR QUESTION TO US, I MEAN, IN YOUR OPINION, TWO THINGS IS IT A GOOD USE OF OUR TIME AND MONEY AND THEN TO THE TIMING OF IT, IS IT BETTER TO HAVE TO START THAT CONCURRENTLY? WHERE THERE THE AUDIT AND THE SURVEY PIECE HAPPENS AT THE SAME TIME, OR DO WE WHAT'S THE THE STEPS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE? I THINK THAT IT WOULD GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED IF WE KIND OF DO IT IN PARALLEL AT THE SAME TIME, THEN WE COULD BRING THAT BACK TO YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION. IF WE GET IT TOO FAR IN ADVANCE OF THE THAT THEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT IF IT'S TOO FAR IN ADVANCE OF THE ELECTION, THAT IT'S NOT AS ACCURATE.

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I THINK REMEMBER, IT GAVE US A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR THE BOND.

I THINK IT WAS VERY VALUABLE.

AND WE WE USE THAT INFORMATION.

WELL, I TRUST THIS COMPANY.

I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

I KNOW MANY DISTRICTS AROUND US THAT HAVE DONE VADER'S RECENTLY USE THEM FOR THIS, AND IT GAVE THE SAME TYPE OF INFORMATION.

SO I DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE THAT WE COULD THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER.

HOW DO WE PAY? YEAH.

I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS CONTEXTUALLY, BECAUSE YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION ABOUT GOING BACK IN TIME AND, AND I THINK GRAPPLING WITH SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU HAVE WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PRESERVE AND WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE UP? AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG QUESTION AT THE END OF THE DAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN LOSE SOMETHING THAT IT'D BE VERY HARD TO GET BACK.

RIGHT. AND WE KNOW THAT THIS DISTRICT IS MADE OF PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE MAKE AN IMPRESSION AND YOU LOSE THE WRONG PEOPLE.

YOU CAN YOU CAN HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPRESSION AND GO THE WRONG WAY.

SO I THINK USING ALL THE MEANS AVAILABLE TO US TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

THE OTHER PART IS WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE TABLE, RIGHT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE.

AND I THINK IT'S SCAFFOLDED AS WELL AS MISS BROWN KNOWS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE PEOPLE DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFORMATION DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THIS EQUATION.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THAT REPETITION IS IMPORTANT AND CONSISTENCY OF INFORMATION AND MESSAGING.

BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN ORDER TO PRESERVE IT.

I THINK LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT'S A LARGE DEFICIT NUMBER, RIGHT.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON OF THE AMOUNT OF THINGS, SAVINGS FROM COST, ADDITIONAL REVENUE, THERE'S STILL A LARGE GAP THERE.

AND HOW DO WE CLOSE THAT WITH MEANING? ALSO, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT GO ACROSS TO OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE ALL THESE NEEDS AND WANTS.

AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEEDS AND WANTS, AND THIS GAP IS HUGE.

AND I DON'T THINK WE CLOSE THAT GAP FOR THOSE NEEDS AND WANTS WITHOUT DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE.

THAT TRUSTEE A LOT OF ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE SAID EXACTLY.

AND I THINK TRUSTEE BENTLEY TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WEIGHING THE OPTIONS, WE MAY HAVE TO DO ALL THE OPTIONS, RIGHT? LIKE, I MEAN, ALL THOSE OPTIONS, I MEAN, BECAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN WE DID REDUCE THOSE FEES AND WE DID, YOU KNOW, THE COPPELL REDUCED HOW MUCH THEY GAVE FOR OUR SROS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE, AND WE DID THAT BECAUSE WE WERE IN A CERTAIN PLACE IN TIME.

WELL, NOW WE'RE AT A DIFFERENT ONE AND WE MAY HAVE TO DO ALL OF THEM.

IT MAY HAVE TO BE A D ALL OF THE ABOVE.

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY COMPELLING AND PERSUASIVE, AND I THINK HEARING MY BEST DECISION RIGHT NOW WOULD BE, YEAH, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RIGHT NOW.

TO MOVE FORWARD FOR A NOVEMBER 2024 IS WHERE I'M STANDING.

DO WE EVER USE LIKE THE OR PRESENT AT THE CITY OF COPPELL MEETINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ABOUT AGENDAS OR LIKE SURVEYS, JUST FOR INFORMATION TO GET TO THEIR NETWORK OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE CONNECTED AS FAR AS OVERLAP COPPELL ISD WORKING WITH THE CITY OF COPPELL AND CITY OF IRVING.

YEAH. AND IRVING DALLAS, BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE MUNICIPALITIES.

BUT GET ON AN AGENDA TOPIC SOMEWHERE.

IT'S LIKE, OH YEAH, THIS IS HAPPENING.

OR WE USE THE NEWSLETTER.

THE CITY OF POP HILLS NEWSLETTER BEFORE TO ANNOUNCE COPPELL ISD STUFF.

YEAH, NO, STUFF LIKE THAT MIGHT MIGHT HELP TO GET THE OVERLAP OF FOLKS WHO ARE NOT.

YEAH. THE REACH.

YEAH. BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING WEEDY AND OH SO GREAT.

AND I LOVE IT. AND I JUST KNOW HOW MUCH CONTENT WE HAVE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WEIGHED IN ON THIS QUESTION.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE ANYBODY ELSE FORWARD OTHER THAN WE WE GOT A LOT OF CONTENT.

SO WHAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ON THIS ONE.

SO THE QUESTION IS DO YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DIRECTION? I FEEL LIKE WE DO. BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE TEAM.

I KNOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. I REALLY, BY THE WAY, I REALLY LIKE THIS FORMAT.

I LIKE HAVING A GROUP AND THEN COMING WITH A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT WE THEN ANSWER AND THEN MOVE ON.

SO SO IN SUMMARY, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE MOVING US AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO OPEN ENROLLMENT.

WE ANSWER THE QUESTION JUST TOOK A WHILE.

YES, IT'S A BIG ONE. IT WAS A REAL QUICK ANSWER THAT THAT'S THE SMALLEST OF ALL THE THINGS.

DO I GET A LITTLE CONCERNED? BUT WE'RE ALL GOOD.

SO AS WE STEP INTO OPEN ENROLLMENT, I'D LIKE TO ASK ANNALISE FORD, OUR DIRECTOR OF STUDENT AND STAFF SERVICES, TO COME TO THE TABLE.

SO SHE CAN HEAR THE DISCUSSION AND ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION AS IT SHE AND MEMBERS OF HER TEAM THAT FEEL THE CALLS THAT ACTUALLY PUT THE PROCESS FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT AND OTHER TRANSFERS INTO PLACE.

TONIGHT, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE STEP INTO THE DISCUSSION IS TAKE A STEP BACK AND TALK ABOUT OPEN ENROLLMENT, AND WE TALK ABOUT IT AS A SEGMENT OF STUDENTS ENTERING OUR DISTRICT.

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IF THEY ARE A CHILD OF A CISD EMPLOYEE OR ONE OF OUR PARTNER GROUPS, DURHAM TRANSPORTATION OR ARAMARK, THEY MAY ATTEND IN OUR DISTRICT.

AS OF THIS YEAR, 2324 IF THEY'RE A CHILD OF A CITY OF COPPELL EMPLOYEE.

AND THEN WHAT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY CONSIDERED OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT OR WHICH TECHNICALLY IS LIMITED OPEN ENROLLMENT, A CHILD OF A RESIDENT IN ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING AREAS SUBDIVISIONS OR APARTMENTS.

AND SO FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, IT WAS JUST THAT FIRST BULLET.

ANY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF COPPELL THAT'S NOT ZONED TO COPPELL ISD SCHOOLS WERE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN ENTER THROUGH OPEN ENROLLMENT FOR THIS YEAR.

AGAIN, 2324 WE EXPANDED SOME NEIGHBORHOODS TO STEP OUT OF THE CITY OF COPPELL THAT INCLUDE HIGHLAND POINTE OR HIGH POINT, OAK ESTATES, HIGHLAND TERRACE, THE PRESERVE, WILLOWBROOK AND VALENTINE APARTMENTS.

SO FOR OUR 2324 SCHOOL YEAR, WE TOOK A SNAPSHOT IN LATE FEBRUARY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT ABOUT STUDENTS ENTERING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

THE NUMBERS ARE VERY SIMILAR.

I THINK THEY WERE OFF BY MAYBE 4 TO 6 STUDENTS.

THAT'S NOT SNAPSHOT TAKING PLACE IN OCTOBER AND OURS TAKING PLACE IN LATE FEBRUARY.

BUT THERE WERE 440 STUDENTS ATTENDING SCHOOLS HERE IN COPPELL WHO DO NOT RESIDE IN THE DISTRICT.

OF THOSE, 440, 199 ARE AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL AND 241 ARE AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL.

SO AGAIN, BREAKING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN FURTHER INTO THE CATEGORIES ON THE PREVIOUS SCREEN CHILDREN OF CISD EMPLOYEES, DURHAM TRANSPORTATION OR ARAMARK. WE HAVE 255 OF OUR STUDENTS THAT ATTEND SCHOOL HERE IN COPPELL.

WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A HUGE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION PIECE WHEN WE TALK TO OUR STAFF, THE ABILITY TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN INTO THE DISTRICT, TO BE ON THE SAME CALENDARS AND ON THE SAME SCHEDULE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MANY OF OUR, OUR STAFF TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

THE BREAKDOWN HERE IS 119 AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, 61 AT MIDDLE SCHOOL AND 75 AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

THIS YEAR, AS WE STEPPED INTO PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF COPPELL.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY FOUR STUDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT, TWO IN ELEMENTARY AND TWO IN MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND THEN CHILDREN WHO RESIDE IN ONE OF THE APPROVED OPEN ENROLLMENT AREAS.

WE HAVE 181 STUDENTS CURRENTLY ATTENDING, 78 ELEMENTARY, 52 MIDDLE, AND 51 HIGH SCHOOL.

SO AGAIN, THAT BREAKDOWN IS A LITTLE MORE HEAVILY IN THE SECONDARY AREA.

AGAIN, 199 ELEMENTARY AND 241 SECONDARY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXPANSION, WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE POTENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS OR FAMILIES THAT WE COULD REACH WITH EXPANDING AND WHAT THE INITIAL EXPANSION LOOKS LIKE.

SO AGAIN, AS WE STEPPED INTO THIS YEAR, WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF COPPELL, HELD SEVERAL INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS, HAD RESOURCES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO THOSE EMPLOYEES, DEVELOPED A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AND THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.

IN THE CITY. THERE ARE 400 PLUS EMPLOYEES IN THE DISTRICT, IN THE CITY, AND AGAIN IN THIS FIRST YEAR, OF THOSE 400, WE HAD, I BELIEVE, AN ANALYST.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS FOUR STUDENTS TOTAL, BUT I THINK THAT WAS TWO FAMILIES, THREE FAMILIES THAT HAVE MADE TAKEN US UP ON THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AGAIN, I THINK IN MOST SITUATIONS WE'VE SEEN US START A LITTLE BIT SMALL AND THEN WORD OF MOUTH GETS OUT AND THEY SEE SUCCESS AND HOW THIS WORKS.

THEY, WE BUILD THAT TRUST IN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY.

WE DO HAVE SOME INCREASED INTEREST, BUT WE WILL SEE WHAT THAT YIELDS FOR THE 2425 SCHOOL YEAR.

AND THEN AS WE EXPANDED OUTSIDE THE CITY OF COPPELL THIS YEAR IN HIGH POINT OAK ESTATES, THERE ARE 86 HOUSES.

HIGHLAND TERRACE 31, THE PRESERVE, 26 TOWNHOMES, WILLOWBROOK 75 HOUSES AND THE BALLANTYNE APARTMENTS HAVE 422 UNITS. BY OPENING UP THOSE OPEN ENROLLMENT AREAS FOR THIS YEAR, WE INCREASED OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT BY 18 STUDENTS TEN AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, SIX AT MIDDLE SCHOOL AND TWO AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

AND THAT'S STILL THE FIRST YEAR.

THAT'S YES, THIS IS THIS YEAR.

SO AGAIN, WE MADE THE DECISION IN EARLY SPRING LAST YEAR, ADDED THAT TO THE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING PARTNERSHIPS, MADE REAL EFFORTS IN THOSE AREAS AND SO HAD SUCCESS WITH 18 STUDENTS ACTUALLY FAMILIES SIGNING UP FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, BEING OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY, AND

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AND THERE AREN'T MANY THAT DON'T ENTER THROUGH OPEN ENROLLMENT ONCE THEY SHOW AN INTEREST OR ACTUALLY APPLY.

BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THERE MAY BE INDIVIDUALS THAT CHANGE THEIR MIND DURING THE PROCESS.

ONE OF THE THINGS BEFORE I GET INTO WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR NEXT YEAR IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH IN THIS ROOM AND IN THE COMMUNITY, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR GOAL HAS BEEN WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT THUS FAR AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.

OUR GOAL FOR THE ENTIRETY OF OPEN ENROLLMENT BEING IN PLACE AND WHAT WE REALLY WORK TO DO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IS TO FILL VACANT SEATS IN CLASSROOMS THAT ALREADY HAVE TEACHERS ATTACHED TO THEM.

SO IN THAT PRE EXCUSE ME, KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FOURTH GRADE, IT'S THAT 22 TO 1 NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAXIMIZING.

GETTING AS CLOSE TO THAT 22 STUDENTS IN A CLASSROOM AS POSSIBLE IN FIFTH AND BEYOND.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SAME STATE LEVEL CONSTRAINTS.

BUT WE LOOK AT 25 OR 26 AND FIFTH GRADE, AND THEN AS YOU HIT THE SECONDARY, IT'S REALLY BASED ON COURSE SELECTION.

AND THOSE CLASSES CAN AND SOMETIMES DO GET A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THAT.

AS WE HAVE BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AT OUR STAFFING AS OUR DEMOGRAPHERS NUMBERS HAVE BECOME MORE ACCURATE AS SOME OF OUR GROWTH HAS STARTED TO SLOW, WE ARE FINDING THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING AS MANY AVAILABLE SEATS IN THOSE CLASSROOMS. WE WITH OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN ATTENDANCE HERE, EITHER THROUGH LIVING IN THE THE CITY OF COPPELL OR THE CISD SCHOOL DISTRICT, OR THROUGH OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT CHANNELS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

WE ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE.

WE HAVE HAD INTEREST FROM OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT AREAS IN SOME OF OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION, SELF-CONTAINED PROGRAMS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN RECENT YEARS.

AND BECAUSE THOSE PROGRAMS ARE AT CAPACITY, THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO SAY NO TO SOME FAMILIES WHO'VE HAD AN INTEREST BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE STELLAR REPUTATION AND SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE THERE.

SO THAT PROVIDES SOME UNIQUE CHALLENGES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SEATS AVAILABLE.

IN ADDITION, WE OFFER STUDENT TRANSFERS OR THE ABILITY TO MOVE CAMPUSES FOR WHATEVER REASON.

A FAMILY HAS THAT CHOICE FIRST TO FAMILIES WHO LIVE IN COPPELL ISD.

SOMETIMES THERE'S SPECIAL PROGRAMS THAT THEY WANT THEIR STUDENTS INVOLVED IN.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE BEEN IN A COHORT IN ELEMENTARY, SAY, AT PINKERTON OR DLI AT AT WILSON OR DENTON CREEK, AND THOSE FAMILIES WANT THEIR STUDENTS TO CONTINUE ON TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDER PATTERN OF THOSE COHORTS.

AND SO WE HAVE ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN THROUGH THE TRANSFER PROCESS.

FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS YEAR, WE'RE IN THAT WINDOW RIGHT NOW.

AND MISS FORD AND I ARE WORKING TO REVIEW THOSE REQUESTS AND MAKE THOSE PLACEMENTS.

AND BECAUSE OF HOW WE'RE STAFFING, WHERE TYPICALLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAY YES TO FAMILIES FIRST CHOICES, EVEN WITH OUR OWN RESIDENTS, WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY THEIR SECOND CHOICE FOR A TRANSFER REQUEST MOVING FORWARD.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PROS AND CONS TO THAT AND SOME POSITIVES THAT OUR STAFFING IS BECOMING EVEN MORE SUFFICIENT.

BUT IT'S NOT THEN ALLOWING SOME OF THOSE OPEN SEATS.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY VERY DISTINCTLY AND OPENLY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T HAVE OPEN CLASSROOMS ON CAMPUSES THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE STAFF ASSIGNED TO, THAT IF WE WERE TO INCREASE ENROLLMENT IN ANY CAPACITY, WE MAY LOOK AT ADDING AND HAVING SOME SYNERGY THERE. WHAT WE'VE SEEN, THOUGH, WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT IS WE DON'T GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE.

FAMILIES COME WITH THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS, YOU KNOW, AT CERTAIN GRADE LEVELS AND CERTAIN AGES.

AND THOSE ARE THE ENTRY POINTS.

AND SO WE HAVE NOT SEEN, EVEN WITH OUR CURRENT OPEN ENROLLMENT PROGRAM, THAT THERE WOULD BE AN INTEREST OR A COHORT OR ENOUGH STUDENTS AT THE SAME GRADE LEVEL WITH THE SAME INTEREST IN BEING ON A CAMPUS, THAT WE WOULD CREATE A NEW CLASSROOM AND GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO ADD A NEW CLASS AND A NEW TEACHER TO MOVE FORWARD.

AS WE'VE RESEARCHED OPEN ENROLLMENT, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THE TWO PIECES THAT ARE MOST SUCCESSFUL FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT PROGRAMS ARE EITHER LOOKING AT BOUNDARIES OR ATTENDANCE AREAS OR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT BORDER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BECAUSE WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT, TRANSPORTATION IS NOT PROVIDED.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONVENIENCE FACTOR.

SO AREAS BORDERING THE DISTRICT AND QUITE HONESTLY, AREAS BORDERING BORDERING THE DISTRICT THAT ARE CLOSE TO CAMPUSES THAT HAVE OPEN SEATS IS ONE WAY DISTRICTS SUCH AS OURS AND OTHERS HAVE SEEN SUCCESS, OR TWO HAVING A VERY SPECIFIC PROGRAM THAT OTHER DISTRICTS DON'T OFFER IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

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SO WHERE WE SIT NOW AND MOVING IN THE VEIN OF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS POINT TO ADD STAFF OR INCREASED COSTS IS WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT EXPANDING OPEN ENROLLMENT IN TWO WAYS.

THE FIRST ONE IS UTILIZING HAVE EVEN OUR NEXT PHASE NOISE MARKETING.

MY HOME ISD TRY TO CONTINUE TO MARKET HIGH TO STAFF AND FOR CURRENT OPEN ENROLLMENT AREAS TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENROLL, TRUCK AND TO INCREASE STATION TURNED AROUND.

WE FEEL LIKE THERE IT'S OTHER AVENUES THAT WE TAP TO NAVIGATE WITH.

OUR STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB AS THEY'RE THIS TIRED ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THAT AS AN OPTION TO BRING THEIR KIDS INSIDE.

THE DISTRICT WILL DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.

THE OTHER POINTS OF MARKETING IT.

YES, WE PUT OUT THE DATES AND SAY, NOW IT'S TIME TO INDICATE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING YOUR CHILD OR NOT.

BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T MARKETED AS I KIND OF DON'T HAVE YOUR CHILD.

WHY DON'T YOU HAVE YOUR NOT NEAR? WHY HAVE YOU NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AS A TENET OF EMPLOYMENT? WE DO NOT SEE THAT AS CALENDARS ARE NOT QUITE AS IN ALIGNMENT.

YOU KNOW BREAKS DIG THAT.

MORE HOLIDAYS AND THINGS NOW FOURTH NEIGHBORING DISTRICT TO BE THERE.

IT HAS UP YEARS PAST.

WE USE THE NUMBER. THIS IS AN AREA WE CAN REALLY TARGET TO INCREASE ROOM REVENUE.

ADDITIONAL OUR OWN STAFF MEMBERS.

AND ALSO AS WE LOOK AT WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO BE, WHAT SCHOOLS ARE WITH THAT HAVE SEATS AVAILABLE AGAIN.

AND WHERE WE'VE HAD OUR LIST, WE'VE HAD WE HAVE INTEREST FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS SOUTH OF BACK COME INTO TO COME TO ISD OPEN.

WE'VE NOT OPENED UP ANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

YENSER BECAUSE OUR, OUR CAMPUS CAN TAKE IN THOSE AREAS IN ANY HOUSE THAT YOU NOT HAD OPEN.

SO AS WE WAIT HONESTLY, FOR AUGUST 24TH, WE DON'T HAVE AS WELL SEATS IN OUR ELEMENTARIES EAST FOR NEXT YEAR.

SHARED WHERE WE DO CAN SEE WHAT SEATS AVAILABLE TO COME.

WILL FIND AN ELEMENTARY.

IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF STAFFING A CAMPUS THAT HAD EVERY GRADE LEVEL.

I HAVE TWO TEACHERS THAT YEARS SERVE THE REALLY EARLY STUDENTS AND SAID TEACHERS THAT TEACH ED.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT IN THAT THAT DANCE ZONE ARE AT ANY GRADE FOR THE TWO THAT THE GENERAL ED, WE SEE A FEW MORE STUDENTS ENROLLED THAN WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN ONE CLASS, EVEN WITH A WAIVER WORK.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING GOING TO BE 22 TO THAT THREE STUDENTS FEEDBACK.

ITS SECOND GRADE THAT TALK.

BUT I KNOW FOR HAVE THIRD EXPECTANCY AT A GRADE LEVEL THAT YOU WANT NECESSITATES TO EVEN TEACHERS THAT APPRECIATE DIVIDE 30 BY TWO.

YOU HAVE 19 STUDENTS IN GOING TO BE CLASS YOU SEVEN SECONDS OR IN EACH CLASS 14 OVERALL AVAILABLE WOULD BE FILLED ORIGINAL ABOUT ADDING STAFF MEMBERS. YOU KNOW WITHOUT WE WERE APPROACHING ADDITIONAL ENROLLMENT TO MINIMIZE THAT STAFF AND MARY WILSON ELEMENTARY AND ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF THEIR PROGRAMS THERE AND ONE UP SITTING ALREADY WE HAVE PLANNING FOR STAFFING RIGHT.

HAS SEATS AVAILABLE.

SO WHILE IT'S NOT OUR SOUTHERN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT IS A FIFTH SOUTHERN THAN CAMPUSES THAT ARE FIFTH UTILIZED AS OPEN AND BEFORE TWO OVER THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS.

EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO GET INTO A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS FROM THE HACKBERRY CONVERSE AREA THAT REACH OUT TO US INTEREST TO HAVE SEATS THAT THEY IT'S THE KIND OF WILLING TO DRIVE THEIR STUDENTS INTO THE DISTRICT AND PARTICIPATE.

YOU'RE COMING. IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT THOSE ARE THE TOOL TO THE AREAS THAT WE BRING THIS TODAY FOR A WE DURATION THAT'LL BE RELATIVE TO IT OUT.

SOME SEE ADS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD WITH THE STATE OR ONLY THAT WE HAVE ON WEAKNESSES, BUT IN BOTH STUDENT AND STAFF SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS AND TO SEE THE ALIGNMENT OK TO THEN OPEN ENROLLMENT, IT FALLS INTO THE LEVEL.

MARCIE. SO FROM A MOMENT AGO, WE START WITH TWO OFFERS AND REVIEWING AND APPROVING TRANSFERS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE DECIDING THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE HEARD WHILE THERE IS AN APPETITE FOR SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY TO GET GOING IN OPEN ENROLLMENT, WE EQUALLY TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK DERMALLY AND ALSO THROUGH INPUT AT COPPELL.

TALK ABOUT RECENTLY, WHAT ARE WE HOPING THAT THEY WOULD USE FOR A SEAT TO TRANSFER MIGHT BE OR BE AVAILABLE? ONE. THEY HAVE AN INTEREST AS MEMBERS THAT LIVE HERE CAMPUS DISTRICT.

AND SO THAT BEEN FIRST.

WE THEN HAVE TIED AT THAT WITH STAFFING PIECE.

AND WE WERE WINDOW OF TIME THAT AT AFTER THAT WHERE WE 20 ACCEPT REVERSE WE PROCESS EMPLOYING A TRANSFERS AND IN OPEN ENROLLMENT HAD GROWN A THIRD PIECE IN THAT DOING ASSESS THAT HAS TO OPEN SPACE REALLY AS WE'RE ANY 31 SCHOOL YEAR AND SPRING IN THE SUMMER.

REALISTICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE IN THE SEATS IS ENROLLING AVAILABLE AND RE ENROLLMENT WHAT WE'RE REGISTRATION ARE TAKING PLACE.

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SO WHAT WE RECOMMEND FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND IF TEN SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO OPEN ENROLLMENT IS TRUE FOR WAY.

A HOW BIG EVEN MIGHT HAVE TO BE? THE REACH WOULD HAVE BEEN IN YOU TO OPEN IT UP.

WE FEEL LIKE TO REALLY INCREASE THE THAT MEMBERS FOR IT TO HIT ME.

MISS OPENING CLUE WITH MS AND ADDING MIRES TEACHERS.

LOOK, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNE THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN BE.

I'M GOING TO.

BUT ALL IN MIND, WE, YOU KNOW INTEREST WANT YOU TO SUBSTANCE BUT ALSO NEIGHBOR QUESTION US TO INPUT FEEDBACK COPPELL OTHER THOUGHTS AND WHAT YOU HAVE REGARDING ANY OF THE ENROLLMENT YET.

BECAUSE SO THAT WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS, WE HAVE INTO CONSIDERATION HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ASSETS WE HAVE AS A PLAN NOT ONLY FOR ALTHOUGH 25 BUT 526 AS MOST.

WELL, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT EMILY AND KRISTEN YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOU COUPLE WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO BE WELL TO IT WITH AN OPEN MIND AND NOT AND SPECIFICALLY AT HACKBERRY WHERE IT THAT'S A NEIGHBOR.

YOU HAD WANTED TO BE IN CAT CITY FOR MANY YEARS TO DL AND WE JUST NEVER AND TO CONSIDER THEM LIKE SHCH GENERAL BECAUSE OF THEIR CLOSE WHAT WE'RE PROXIMITY TO US THAT ATTEND SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH AT ALREADY ARE LEVEL PRETTY THAT ARE PRETTY FULL.

WE HAVE WE DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY'S FAMILY IN SOMEBODY MAY WOULD BE THEY MAY PASS BYPASS OF OUR OUR NEIGHBOR SO SCHOOLS ON THEIR WAY TO WORK.

YOU KNOW AGAIN JUST TRYING TO BE VERY OPEN TO SAY THERE'S BEEN LAID BACK ON THE SURVEYS.

BUT WE ABOUT OPEN ENROLLMENT AND STUDENT SOME OF Y'ALL'S.

SO THAT WAS ONE TO TEED US TO EXPLORE THAT WHEN YOU FURTHER.

SO I STUDENTS THEM BOTH SHARING HAVE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR THINKING EACH HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPANDED STUDENTS OR THAT YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING A WITH SEATS. I CAN REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDING ON THE BOARD AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING OPEN MAXIMUM AND HAVING BOARD AT THE TIME BECAUSE WAS VERY G OF THE SAYING WHERE WE'RE LET'S BRING IN AS WE'RE UP TO A POINT WHERE NEXT YEAR, SOME AVAILABLE SEATS AVAILABLE, LIKE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT MOST, USING YOUR EXAMPLE OF MORE HAVING, YOU KNOW, 15 STUDENTS HAVE BEEN STUDENT TEACHER RATIO AND 18 TO 1 AND GETTING THAT UP EVERY YEAR, 22 TO 1.

IT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS HAD I DON'T WANT WEEDS, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE THAT IS ABOUT TWO SEATS WOULD BE LEFT AS EXPRESSED AND SAY YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE SEVEN.

WE HAVE FIVE, YOU KNOW, ARE AVAILABLE THAT TO KIND OF CONCEPT AND SO PROCESS THE BOARD HAD AT THE TIME.

AND I THINK YOU EVERY BACK FULL CIRCLE TO YOU TO SIMILAR PROCESS CONSIDERING.

YES IT WOULD BE HAVE SEATS.

WE WILL DO THE MATH FIGURE OUT KEEP A BETTER WHAT'S AVAILABLE JUST FOR STAFF.

NOT ALL ARE MOVING IN OR OFFERING AND THEN ACCOMMODATE MRS TO SUGGEST THESE.

AND I THINK YOU AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE CAMPUSES TO KEEP HOW MANY OF WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE DAY IF I DO SOME HIGH AS I SAID, MATH YOU KNOW IT'S CAPACITY STANDPOINT.

WOULD IT BE 40 SEATS IN A CAMPUS.

WOULD IT BE DISTRICT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT FROM A IS AN EQUITY STANDPOINT THAT THAT YOU WOULD BE HAVING ME TO BEAR IN MIND THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO RECEIVE A CAMPUS UP IN FOUR, IF THAT WAS THE TIMETABLE? SO I THINK IT'S QUITE WORRIED.

WE LOOK AT THE STAFF THAT HAVE AT EVERY CAMPUS TO NEXT YEAR EXCEPT FOR WILSON RIGHT NOW THERE WILL IF BE A WASTE OR TWO SEATS OVER IN THE AT A COUPLE OF THE CAMPUSES IN THE NORTH LOOKED AT. BUT IT'S REALLY BENNETT AND WE'RE BEFORE HAVE A WHOPPING IF WE CLOSE THAT LOOKING WE REJECTING YOU KNOW 21 2021 STUDENTS TO GO AHEAD AND ON THE SIDE OF OF ADDING AND THE CLASS BECAUSE HAS BEEN THE PREVIOUS YEARS WE'VE THAT WE'RE NOT TAKEN THAT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTING OF ADDING A SEEING CLASSES WITH 21 AND 22 STUDENTS.

IF ALL THE OF THE STAFF AND PROJECTED ONCE AGAIN TO BE OPEN.

SO ISN'T STAFFING THAT WE HAVE IT AND WILL REALLY WAS SO LOOKING AT ARE WERE KIND OF NUMBERS AT EVERY GRADE LEVEL AT WILL OF FOR THOSE GENERAL IN LOSSES.

SO THIS IS I WOULD SAY WE'D HAVE TO LOOK IN NEW ADDITIONAL SEATS IN A BIG IN KINDERGARTEN TO FIFTH GRADE, MAYBE A FEW MORE IN FIFTH, BECAUSE THE CLASSES OPEN UP WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD THEN ADJUST FOR ANY MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THERE'S COURSE SELECTION.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN ROUTE YOUR DAY AND NUMBER OF KIDDOS THAT YOU CAN FIT INTO A CLASSROOM.

BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL, AS YOU SAW TONIGHT, THAT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS TRANSFERRING IN THERE ARE MORE SECONDARY.

AND AS WE'VE OPENED UP OPEN ENROLLMENT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY OPENED UP, YOU HAD TO ENTER AS AN ELEMENTARY STUDENT AND THEN YOU COULD STAY THROUGH SECONDARY.

WELL, WE SAW A NUMBER OF FAMILIES NOT TAKING US UP ON THAT OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE IF YOUR KIDS SPANNED, YOU KNOW, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, IN MOST CASES

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SO WE'VE SEEN INCREASED INTEREST NOW THAT WE ALLOW STUDENTS TO ENTER AT ANY GRADE LEVEL.

BUT WE'RE SEEING MANY OF THOSE STUDENTS THEN ENTER AT MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL.

WE FEEL LIKE.

THIS IS NOT SCIENTIFIC, BUT THROUGH CONVERSATIONS, IN MANY CASES, FAMILIES ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR IT'S THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO THEY CAN WALK AND THEY CAN RIDE THEIR BIKES.

WHEN THEY GET INTO MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRANSPORTING THEIR KIDS, WHETHER IT'S ACROSS THEIR HOME DISTRICT OR ACROSS DISTRICT LINES, TO COME HERE.

THEY'RE MORE OPEN TO DOING THAT.

AND AGAIN, THEN IT SPEAKS TO SOME OF THE UNIQUE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO OFFER AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL IN OUR DISTRICT AT EARLIER AGES WITH, YOU KNOW, CTE COURSES AND INTRODUCTION COMING DOWN IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, IB NEW TECH AND THE CHOICE OTHER CHOICE PROGRAMS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S WHY WE INFORMALLY AND THROUGH INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN THAT INTEREST.

AND THEN QUITE HONESTLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT BORDER US, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS MOVE TO COPPELL.

BUT FOR ALL THE REASONS OR THE COPPELL ISD, FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, FOR THE AMENITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BORDERING AREAS, FOR US IT MIRRORS COPPELL IN MANY WAYS.

SO THE DRAW, THE APPEAL, THE BACKGROUNDS ARE VERY SIMILAR IN WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THEIR STUDENTS.

BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOWER BIRTH RATES AND COST OF HOMES AND THINGS LIKE WE DID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR DISTRICT, SOME OF THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES IS OUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE PULLING FROM ARE EXPERIENCING THOSE SAME CHALLENGES.

I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS AND LOOKING FOR WAYS FOR REVENUE.

I MEAN, WHAT I RECALL FROM PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE NOT MOVING THE NEEDLE VERY MUCH WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT.

SO IF WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

I STILL GO BACK TO THE QUALITY.

AND THAT'S YOU MENTIONED THE THE FEEDBACK.

AND I GET IT TOO, JUST OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS PATH, WE'RE NOT CREATING ADDITIONAL ISSUES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

AND I KNOW YOU JUST EVEN WITH JESSICA, YOU HAVE ONE UNRULY OR DISCIPLINE ISSUE WITH A CHILD, AND IT CAN RUIN THE WHOLE CLASSROOM IN THE SETTING AND CREATES A WHOLE DOMINO EFFECT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE INSTRUCTIONAL QUALITY AND THE ABILITY TO FOR THE TEACHER TO DO THEIR JOB AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL TIME AND EFFORT STAFF HAVE TO PUT INTO IT.

SO ARE WE SEEING INCREASES IN DISCIPLINARY ISSUES WITH, WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT AND, AND THE EXPANSION OF IT THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO? I'VE SEEN A LOT OF TARDIES AND ABSENCES TO OUR NEWER OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS THAT I'M TRACKING AND SENT OUT PROACTIVELY. IN JANUARY, I SENT A LETTER AND AN EMAIL SAYING, YOU'RE APPROACHING THIS MANY TARDIES AND THIS ATTENDANCE, AND THEN ALSO INCLUDING DISCIPLINE REFERRALS THAT WERE OFFICIAL, MORE SO TO THE OFFICE AS OPPOSED TO OUR EDUCATORS, TAKE A LOT OF DISCIPLINE ON THEMSELVES IN THE CLASSROOM THAT I DON'T HAVE OFFICIAL, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICIAL ACCESS THAT HAS BEEN SENT ON TO THE OFFICE FOR ADDITIONAL INTERVENTION.

BUT WE ARE SEEING SOME INCREASE IN THAT.

AND WHERE I'M GIVING THOSE PROBATIONARY LIKE, HEY, HEADS UP, THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE APPROACHING.

AND THIS COULD AFFECT YOUR APPLICATION FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND SO AS WE'RE COMING TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR AS THEY REAPPLY, IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKED AT IN THAT SAME CAPACITY TOO, BECAUSE PART OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO OPEN ENROLLMENT IS THAT THEY WILL BE HERE TIMELY AND THEY WILL NOT BE ABSENT, AND THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE GAP PLACEMENTS OR AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF OFFICE REFERRALS.

AND THAT HAS BEEN NEW.

WE'VE NOT TRADITIONALLY, WHILE THAT HAS BEEN TRACKED THROUGHOUT THE OPEN ENROLLMENT PROGRAM, THE YEARS IT'S BEEN THERE THE NUMBER OF PROBATIONARY LETTERS THAT WE'VE HAD TO SEND OUT OR CONVERSATIONS HAD WITH PARENTS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THEM NOT HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY HAS INCREASED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE SAW AN INCREASE IN MORE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE BEING HAD WITH SOME OF OUR NEW PARENTS THIS YEAR, BASED ON THE EXPANSION OF THE PROGRAM AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN POST COVID, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ENTIRELY SURPRISING, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THAT ACROSS STUDENT GROUPS IN GENERAL, TOO.

SO. I'M IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ARE PROPOSING.

IF THAT'S THE FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR TO DECIDE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

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WELL, THE THE UNIQUE PIECE OF THAT.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, SPECIFICALLY IN COMPLETE HONESTY LAKESIDE IS A REALLY UNIQUE CAMPUS RIGHT NOW IN THE SENSE THAT ITS NUMBERS ARE, YOU KNOW, AT THE 450, I THINK, PROJECTED FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT OVER 100 OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE SERVED AT LAKESIDE CURRENTLY ARE OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD AND PRE K FAMILIES.

LAKESIDE FOR NEXT YEAR IS RIGHT NOW BASED ON ENROLLMENT NUMBERS PROJECTED TO HAVE TWO SECTIONS OF KINDERGARTEN, TWO SECTIONS OF FIRST AND TWO SECTIONS OF SECOND GRADE. SO THOSE SECTIONS, THOUGH, ARE ALREADY IF ALL OF THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT FROM LIVING IN OUR DISTRICT ATTEND, THERE WILL BE TWO SECTIONS AT 21 AND 22 STUDENTS.

SO THERE'S NOT THE OPEN SEATS CURRENTLY.

THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY AN OPEN CLASSROOM TO ADD A FIRST GRADE, BECAUSE WE'RE FILLING IT WITH EARLY CHILDHOOD AND PRE-K.

NOW. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, BASED ON THE DECISION TO MOVE SOME OF THE CYPRESS WATER STUDENTS TO COTTONWOOD CREEK.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MOVING SOME OF THOSE SECTIONS FROM LAKESIDE DOWN TO CANYON RANCH, BECAUSE THERE IS NOW ROOM TO DO THAT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE IN DISTRICT NUMBERS THAT WOULD WARRANT ADDING A THIRD SECTION AT KINDER FIRST OR SECOND, THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW US SEATS FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT.

SO THAT'S BEEN PART OF IT TOO, IS IS LOOKING AT WHERE WE KNOW THOSE SEATS WILL BE.

BUT THAT IS AN AREA WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.

DENTON CREEK IS MUCH THE SAME.

DENTON CREEK IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST ENROLLMENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OF THE FOOTPRINT.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF UNIQUE PROGRAMS, THEY HAVE THEIR GENERAL ED, THEY'VE GOT THEIR DLI, THEY HAVE SOME SPECIAL ED, SELF-CONTAINED, UNIQUE UNITS THERE.

AND SO THEIR SPACE AND THEIR NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY BEING VERY WELL UTILIZED AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING OFFERED AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOME OF THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES WITH WHERE WE'RE SITTING WITH STAFFING.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT A CLASSROOM, BUT THERE'S ALSO NOT A TEACHER EITHER.

BUT WE COULD CONSIDER THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD WANT TO SHARE WITH US SPECIFIC AREAS OR AS THE NEW YEAR COMES AND WE HAVE ITERATION OF STAFF, IF WE HAVE A FACILITY WITH THESE TWO OPTIMIZATIONS IN MY MIND, I'M LOOKING AT ONE IS OF THE STAFF AND OTHER IS OF THE FACILITY.

WE HAVE A FACILITY WHICH CAN TAKE EASILY 550 TO 600 BUT SITTING AT A FOUR 4450 CAPACITY.

AND AS THE NEW YEAR COMES, WE ARE MOVING THE STAFF AROUND MEANS MAYBE THERE COULD BE PLAY.

BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD IS A LOT OF FAMILIES FROM THE EAST SIDE OF VALLEY RANCH, OTHER SIDE OF MACARTHUR.

THEY WOULD LOVE TO COME TO COPPELL.

YEAH. IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

WE COULD, YOU KNOW, EXPLORE SOME OF THAT AND LOOK AT IT IN A LIMITED CAPACITY.

SURE. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE TWO INITIATIVES.

OBVIOUSLY, LET'S EXECUTE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO.

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

SOUNDS GREAT. NUMBER TWO, HACKBERRY SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WORTH PURSUING.

AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL IDEA THAT I HAD HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT THEY DO AT CARROLLTON-FARMERS BRANCH IS.

SO I WANTED TO THROW IT OUT.

THERE IS THEY HAVE GRANDPARENTS, SO IF THE GRANDPARENTS LIVE WITHIN COPPELL ISD THEN THEY CAN HAVE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN.

OPEN ENROLLMENT IS AVAILABLE TO THEIR GRANDCHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO COME.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW GRANDPARENTS.

SO ANYWAY, I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND I KNOW YOU ANGELA, YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH CFB AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT WORKS.

WE DO HAVE GRANDFATHER AFFIDAVITS AND THEY'RE ON ON OUR WEBSITE TOO.

AND SO THOSE ARE UTILIZED ALSO.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE ON GRANDPARENT AFFIDAVITS.

IF THE GRANDPARENT LIVES IN COPPELL AND THEN THE IT'S CONSIDERED A TRANSFER ALSO.

BUT IT'S JUST UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF GRANDFATHER AFFIDAVIT TRANSFER.

BUT WE DO HAVE THOSE AND I DON'T I WONDER I, I WONDER IF THERE WERE, IF THERE WOULD BE SOME MARKETING AROUND THERE, IF YOU GUYS FELT LIKE THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS MORE GRANDPARENTS COME ON, PARENT TAKES CARE OF THE CHILD.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YEAH, IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ENROLLMENT.

YEAH. THIS IS ACTUALLY LIKE NOT AT THE THE GRANDCHILD DOES NOT LIVE WITH THE GRANDPARENT.

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COULD THERE BE A PROGRAM WHERE YOU HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT? AND AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT OPEN ENROLLMENT AND YOU'VE SPOKEN TO SO, SO WELL IS IT IS A CONTROLLED ACCESS.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROL POINTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

RIGHT. BUT THAT WAS JUST AN IDEA THAT I HEARD THAT I WAS LIKE, OH, WOW.

WITH OUR CRAZY EXPENSIVE HOME PRICES AND, YOU KNOW, AN AGING DEMOGRAPHIC THAT MIGHT BE AN AVENUE TO HAVE, AGAIN, PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHOSEN COPPELL OR AND HAVE THEIR KIDS THAT GRADUATED, BUT THEIR KIDS CAN'T AFFORD TO TO MOVE BACK.

IT MIGHT BE AN AVENUE I DON'T WANT TO THROW SOMETHING WE COULD PURSUE TO.

YEAH, THAT WAS AN IDEA.

ANY OTHERS? THIS ONE I JUST FOR ME, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE WE'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF EXPANDING OPEN ENROLLMENT.

I WOULD ARGUE IT'S TIME TO PROBABLY THINK ABOUT PUTTING A PAUSE ON THIS ONE.

I JUST DON'T SEE ENOUGH ROI ON IT.

AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO THE TAXPAYERS TO ASK THEM TO PAY MORE TAXES.

THESE ARE FAMILIES COMING IN AND COPPELL THAT AREN'T QUITE PAYING THE TAXES, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE EXTRA VADER AND THE EXTRA PENNIES AND I THINK I'VE HIT FOR ME PERSONALLY, A POINT WHERE I THINK WE'RE NOT GETTING THE NUMBERS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX OUR PROBLEM WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT.

LIKE I'M IN A PAUSE POINT FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT PERSONALLY.

INCLUDING THE EXISTING THAT WE HAVE WITH TEACHERS AND KEEP WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

OR I'M NOT SAYING CLOSE THE PROGRAM, I JUST I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF EXPANDING IT ANY FURTHER.

I THINK IN LIGHT OF, OF SEEING INCREASED DISCIPLINARY AND TARDINESS AND ABSENCE AND, AND JUST THE MEAT ON THE BONE TO TRY TO SOLVE A BUDGET PROBLEM. I DON'T SEE THIS AS A, AS A SOLUTION.

THERE WAS ALWAYS A POINT.

I WAS JUST SAYING THAT YOU COULD ONLY ADD SO MANY BEFORE YOU GOT TO INCREASE EXPENSES, RIGHT? AND SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SOLVE FOR WHAT WE CAN HANDLE.

AND IS THAT WHEN WE ADD THOSE SEATS, IT HELPS REVENUE TO COVER THE COST OF TOTAL, OR IS THAT JUST KIND OF A YOU COME HERE AND ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE JUST PAYING FOR YOURSELF TO BE HERE, OR IS THAT HELPING WITH OVERALL COST? THE DISTRICT GETS THE BASIC ALLOTMENT FOR BUY FOR PER ADA FOR THAT CHILD.

YES, YES.

SO IF WE ARE ADDING A CHILD INTO AN EXISTING CLASSROOM, THEN YES, THAT'S REVENUE COMING IN.

IF WE HAD TO OPEN A NEW CLASSROOM, WE WOULD NEED 12 OR 13 NEW STUDENTS TO PAY FOR THE TEACHER.

YES. I'M THOUGHTFUL OF YOUR OF ANY KIND OF CULTURE CHANGE OR WHATEVER THAT WE MAY EXPERIENCE WITH PEOPLE COMING IN, BUT PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH OUR FAMILIES A LITTLE BIT MORE ON FIGURING OUT EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THEM TO.

AND THEN THEY HAVE CHANCES, RIGHT? YOU HAVE YOU COME IN HERE, YOU LEARN MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEN WE'LL GIVE THEM A SHOT AND THEN YOU GO, IT'S KIND OF A YEAR TO YEAR THING, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

RIGHT. BUT I THINK IF AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE CAPACITY, IT DOESN'T INCREASE OUR COST, THEN WE GIVE IT A SHOT.

RIGHT? THAT'S THAT WOULD BE MY, MY MY $0.02 THERE.

BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE ADDING COSTS, THEN YOU'RE DEFEATING THE PURPOSE I AGREE WITH.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A SILVER BULLET FOR OUR BUDGET.

NO, WE WILL NEED A LOT OF SMALL, SMALL EFFORTS.

AND THIS IS I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE REVENUE THAT WE GET THROUGH OPEN ENROLLMENT.

IT'S TAKING THE WHOLE 440 STUDENTS I KNOW THROUGH DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OF.

THAT'S CLOSE TO $3 MILLION.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AND JUST FROM THE REGULAR OPEN ENROLLMENT, THAT'S 180 KIDS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

MORE THAN ONE POINT. OR MORE THAN AROUND $1 MILLION.

THAT'S TEN TEACHERS SALARIES GETTING PAID FOR.

AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT ALL THESE SMALL, SMALL PROGRAMS WHICH CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE CAN GET EXTRA 15 STUDENTS MORE.

IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN MY POINT OF VIEW.

I LOVE IT WHEN IT CHECKS TWO BOXES.

YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S A STAFF RETENTION AND A STAFF BENEFIT, RIGHT? THAT YOU WOULD OFFER THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

I MEAN, YOU GET DOUBLE, DOUBLE CHECKS FOR THAT'S WHY I LIKED THE GRANDPARENT ASPECT OF IT TOO.

AND BUILDING COMMUNITY WITHIN.

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BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, TOO.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE BEING INCREDIBLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHEN IT TILTS, RIGHT? AND WHEN IT'S NOT GENERATING ACTUALLY GENERATING REVENUE WHILE TRYING TO TAKE A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO ONE LOOK AT THE POSSIBLE LIMITED EXPANSION. BECAUSE AT SEVERAL POINTS, THIS WAS AN EXPECTATION OF THE BOARD IN THIS DISCUSSION.

AND THEN YOU COULD SEE IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP BY, I GUESS, SOME PEOPLE IN THE KNOW ON OUR SURVEYS.

SO WE WANTED AGAIN TO BE HAVE A CONTROLLED PROCESS.

BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A LIMITED EXPERIENCE.

AND SO ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON OPEN ENROLLMENT? NO, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS THE UNINTENDED BENEFIT, BECAUSE YOU COULD BRING SOMEBODY IN A FAMILY IN THAT COULD BE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR IN OTHER WAYS.

SO WE GET A BENEFIT OF THE HEAD COUNT TO OFFSET COSTS FOR THE FTE AND MAXIMIZE THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S BUILDING CAPACITY, AND WE NEED CAPACITY WHERE WE CAN FIND IT.

AND TO TO YOUR POINT, KEVIN, I THINK YEAH, WE DON'T WANT TO INCREASE.

COST RIGHT IN THIS, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME EXCESS CAPACITY WHERE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

BUT I THINK ALSO THE UNINTENDED BENEFIT, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL COME THROUGH THAT DOOR, MAY HAVE OTHER IDEAS ON HOW TO PROVIDE US WITH REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MAY NOT EVEN CONSIDER.

SO I THINK THE INTELLECTUAL CAPITAL AND THE FAMILY INVOLVEMENT AND THEN MANAGING OBVIOUSLY THE DISCIPLINE SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDES TO IT. SO, YEAH.

SO DO YOU ALL HAVE I'M SORRY.

RANNA SORRY. I WAS JUST THINKING THAT THE LAST POINT I'M THINKING IS THAT IT IS CONTROLLED IN A WAY, AND IT'S A YEARLY THING.

SO OPEN ENROLLMENT.

SO YOU GET THAT CHANCE TO KIND OF REEVALUATE THAT YEARLY TO SEE.

AND THEN WE GET TO CHOOSE THAT OKAY.

THIS IS THE CAMPUS. THIS IS THE PROGRAM.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

SO. YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA.

I CAN DO THE OTHER ONES.

DO YOU ALL HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? KRISTEN? AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO CUT PEOPLE OFF, BUT JUST IT'S 8:00.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTENT AND IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO JUMP IN AND HELP MOVE IT ALONG, THAT'S GREAT TOO.

BUT I DON'T MIND DOING IT EITHER.

BUT THANK YOU. THAT WAS GREAT.

THE NEXT SECTION WE HAD, THAT WAS A REQUEST FOR THE HISTORICAL ADOPTED BUDGETS VERSUS ACTUAL RESULTS.

AND THESE ARE THE LAST EIGHT YEARS OF DATA.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU KNOW, BUDGETING IS REALLY BASED UPON A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS, ENROLLMENT, ATTENDANCE RATE, THE PROPERTY VALUES, AND THE DISTRICT ALWAYS BUDGETS FOR 100% EMPLOYMENT AT THE MIDPOINT.

THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES THAT TAKE PLACE DURING THE YEAR, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S BEEN A LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES TIME FOR THOSE LAWS AND THE FINANCE, THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THOSE LAWS TO BE PASSED DOWN TO THE DISTRICT.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME REMARKABLE WAYS OF RECOVERING FROM SOME OF THE DEFICITS THAT WERE PASSED. WE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE HAD SOME HOLD HARMLESS FUNDING.

WE HAD A VERY HIGH INTEREST RATES LAST YEAR.

WE HAD ONE YEAR WHEN WE HAD TWO YEARS OF SHARP REVENUE THAT CAME IN.

AND SO THE DISTRICT'S BEEN ABLE TO MAKE UP THESE DEFICITS.

BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

DURING FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR THROUGH SEVEN MONTHS, IT APPEARS THAT THE DISTRICT WILL SAVE ABOUT $2 MILLION IN PAYROLL AND SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

SO AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE END OF YEAR PROJECTION IS ABOUT A $10 MILLION DEFICIT.

THAT CAN CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THE DEPARTMENTS AND CAMPUSES SPEND DURING THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR.

SO I GUESS THE QUESTION AND THIS IS IF THIS IS THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONTINUE TO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY, OR IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE IN PRACTICE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE.

I LIKE THE CONSERVATIVE BUDGETS.

I DON'T LIKE THE CHART BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TELL THE FULL STORY.

THE LAST THREE YEARS OF WHY THERE WAS A HUGE VARIANCE, WHICH ARE ONE TIME SOURCES OF FUNDS AND OTHER ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE CREATED THOSE LARGE VARIANCES.

AND I'M AFRAID THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY, THEY SEE THIS AND THEY THINK, WELL, THERE'S NO ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS MAKE IT UP.

SO THAT THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT ON ON THAT.

I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

I'M SORRY. AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING THAT WHEN WE DO OUR COMMUNITY FOCUS GROUPS AND PTO AND ALL OF THAT IS THAT,

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AND EVEN WITH THE ECLIPSE, I MEAN, IT IS GETTING DARK AND WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE HAD SOME COMPONENTS THAT ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO US.

I THINK THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE LAST TWO YEARS WE, WE HAVE REALLY SPENT ABOUT AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE'VE BROUGHT IN.

SO DESPITE THE VARIANCE IN THE BUDGET THE EXPENDITURES ARE THERE.

BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING IT DOES IS SHOW IS THE COMPLEXITY OF SCHOOL FINANCE.

AND YOU'VE GOT FOUR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS THAT ARE HITTING IN HERE THAT ARE UNIQUE, BUT IT ALSO SETS UP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT IS COMING ABOUT. AND IT'S A GREAT ON RAMP TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION ANYWAY.

AND THIS DATA IS AVAILABLE HISTORICALLY OUT THERE.

SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T ACCESS IT, BUT IT ALSO GIVES A PLATFORM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY THINGS ARE CHANGING AND HOW DRASTICALLY THEY'RE CHANGING.

AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE SWINGS, THOSE LARGE SWINGS CAN ALSO BE NEGATIVE SWINGS IN A BAD SITUATION.

AND WE'VE KIND OF HIT THAT CLIFF WHERE THE BAD SITUATION IS ABOUT TO UNFOLD.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, 23, 24, AS YOU JUST INDICATED, A BIG SWING THE OTHER WAY.

AND SO THOSE, THESE CHARTS TELLS HOW COMPLEX SCHOOL FINANCE IS, IN MY OPINION, IT IS A CHALLENGE AND A LOT OF IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY FACTORS THAT NEED TO BE ASSUMED AND THAT AREN'T SET UNTIL WAY AFTER THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED. YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT, TO THAT QUESTION, BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY AS YOU CAN.

I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO APPROACH IT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER BECAUSE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, COMMUNITY INPUT THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS RELATED TO THESE BUDGETARY CHALLENGES, BECAUSE WE WANT TO CREATE THAT SENSE OF URGENCY, AGAIN, NOT CAUSING PEOPLE TO PANIC, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO REALIZE WHY WE'RE HAVING THESE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS NOW WITH EVEN TOUGHER ONES IN THE FUTURE. I MEAN, I WOULD UNDERSCORE WHAT DAVID SAID, MAYBE REITERATING THE FLEETING NATURE OF THE WHAT SAVED US IN THE LAST COUPLE OF, OF BUDGET SESSIONS.

AND, I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE CHICKEN LITTLE SCENARIO.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT REPEATABLE.

AND AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING MORE SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS NOW.

SO. SO IT'S GOOD.

OKAY. THE NEXT SECTION WAS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT ARE OUR FIXED EXPENDITURES AND WHAT ARE OUR DISCRETIONARY EXPENDITURES FROM A TOTAL BUDGET PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO THESE ARE THE 2223 ACTUAL EXPENDITURES.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ABOUT 84% OF THIS OF THE EXPENDITURES WERE ON SALARY AND BENEFITS.

THIS EXCLUDES RECAPTURE.

WE JUST TAKE RECAPTURE RIGHT OFF THE TOP BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY JUST REVENUE THAT COMES IN THAT GOES OUT.

SO IF 107 MILLION IS SPENT ON PAYROLL, THEN WE'VE GOT ABOUT 20.7 MILLION TO SPEND ON OTHER THINGS 13 MILLION ON CONTRACTED SERVICES, THINGS LIKE LEGAL AUDIT, TAX APPRAISALS, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR SOME OF OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS, OUR BUS SERVICE, OUR CUSTODIAL SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS IS A 4.6 MILLION AND OTHER OPERATING COSTS WAS 2.2 MILLION.

SO THAT'S THE 20.6 MILLION.

IF WE THEN LOOK AND WE SAY, WHAT IF THAT IS FIXED? SO THAT CHART ON THE LEFT IS REALLY WHAT OUR FIXED COSTS ARE.

OUT OF THAT 20 MILLION ABOUT 16 ARE FIXED 16 MILLION.

NOW YOU COULD SAY, WELL REALLY IS STUDENT TRANSPORTATION A FIXED COST? WELL WE ARE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STUDENT TRANSPORTATION THEN PERHAPS THERE'S A WAY OF DOING IT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT WAYS TO DO THAT.

SO MAYBE IT WOULDN'T BE 4.8 MILLION, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

IS CUSTODIAL A FIXED COST.

WELL IF WE WANT TO HAVE CLEAN BUILDINGS THEN YES IT WOULD BE FIXED.

COULD WE DO WITHOUT IT.

WE PROBABLY COULD.

BUT YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER A COMMUNITY MEMBER COMING UP TO ME AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, IN I THINK IT WAS JAPAN.

SHE SAID THE CHILDREN CLEAN THE CLASSROOMS. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S A UNIQUE IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY EVER PUT THAT IN OUR SURVEY.

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BUT SO IT REALLY JUST LEAVES US WITH ABOUT $4.6 MILLION OF FUNDS THAT ARE WHAT I WOULD SAY ARE DISCRETIONARY. BUT WHEN I SAY THEY'RE DISCRETIONARY, THAT'S PAYING FOR CURRICULUM SUPPLIES, IT'S PAYING FOR OUR PAYING FOR OUR STAFF TRAINING, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF OUR TEACHERS AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE AND EVEN ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS OFFICE, SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE NEW LAWS ARE OFFICE SUPPLIES, PAPER AND PENCIL READING MATERIALS, EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS, THE NEWSPAPER ADS WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE PAPER, COMMUNICATIONS, MARKETING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO REALLY, 3.6% OF OUR BUDGET IS DISCRETIONARY.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DISCRETIONARY AMOUNT VERSUS THE FIXED AMOUNT YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO PAYROLL, WE LOOK AT HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY HOW CAN WE POSITIVELY IMPACT THE BUDGET AND ALIGN OUR EXPENDITURES WITH OUR REVENUES? THAT'S A QUESTION. I THINK YOU'RE DOING IT NOW.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST CLOSELY EVALUATING THE FUNDS AND SEEING WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT, WHERE YOU CAN CONSOLIDATE, WHERE YOU CAN'T.

SO I NEVER HAVE TOO MANY QUESTIONS FOR ME PERSONALLY ON THIS SUBJECT.

YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED SOME AREAS WHERE YOU'RE SAVING AND THAT'S NOT EVEN FROM OR JUST JUST DISCRETIONARY.

THAT'S KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD ATTRITION YOU SPOKE OF EARLIER, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOUBLING DOWN WHATEVER YOU CAN.

THE CAR WORK MAYBE EVEN DONE FOR US A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN THE THE AUDIT COMES THROUGH IF WE GET THAT DONE AS WELL.

SO PART OF THE REASON WHY I HAD ASKED THIS QUESTION IS BECAUSE, LIKE YOU THINK ABOUT A NONPROFIT THAT GETS A GOOD CHARITY RATING, THEY CAN SPEND 15 TO 20% ON OPERATIONS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

THE DISTRICT'S ALREADY OPERATING INCREDIBLY LEANLY AND EFFECTIVELY, WILL WE FIND EFFICIENCIES? I'M SURE WE WILL. EVERY ORGANIZATION HAS EFFICIENCIES.

RIGHT. BUT I FEEL LIKE THE PIECES HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE.

AND TO ME, IT ALSO UNDERSCORES THAT THIS CANNOT BE A ONE YEAR PROCESS FOR US TO FILL THIS HOLE, BECAUSE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CUT? WE VALUE GREAT TEACHING.

HOW MUCH? I MEAN, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE VALUE AS A DISTRICT IS WHERE WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED TO PUT OUR MONEY.

AND SO SO TO ME, I JUST TO SEE IT THIS SIMPLY I REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I THINK US SITTING AROUND THE TABLE KNOW THIS EITHER INTENSELY THROUGH THE NUMBERS OR ANECDOTALLY, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THIS CAN'T BE A ONE YEAR PROCESS, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE GETTING THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PUT BACK IN PLACE OR RESTORE.

AND AND WE HAVE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND, AND REALLY GONE PRETTY LEAN ALREADY.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS ANALYSIS.

I THINK IT'S INVALUABLE.

YEAH. I JUST I LIKE THE WAY AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE AFFIRMATION.

AND I THINK ONCE AGAIN, THESE THINGS SUPPORT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO, NOT ONLY TODAY BUT IN THE FUTURE.

AND IF YOU START TAKING, THEN I CAN'T BE AS EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.

AND SO WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT BEING EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.

THESE THINGS HELP US TO BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT THROUGH AND THROUGH.

AND TO YOUR POINT ON THE NONPROFIT BEING ON A NONPROFIT BOARD, THE SAME THING, YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU LOOK AT AT THE PERCENTAGES.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT CHARITY NAVIGATOR SAID, IF YOU DON'T HIT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, YOU CAN'T GET GRANTS.

WELL, THE SAME THING HERE, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU GET SUPPORT? AND I KNOW FURTHER IN THE CONVERSATION THAN SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

AND I'LL TALK THERE ABOUT THAT PIECE.

BEING SAID, I DO WANT TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IS THERE A WAY WITH OUR BUSSES, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE A FEE STRUCTURE OR TO WHAT YOU GUYS SAID ABOUT EXTRACURRICULAR, LIKE I GUESS THAT'S ADDING FEES, FOR INSTANCE, REVENUE WITHIN ADDING REVENUE.

YEAH. SO BUT WITHIN SOME OF THOSE THINGS, IS THERE STILL A WAY TO TO ADD REVENUE? WOULD BE MY ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

MOVE ON. I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT PRE-KINDERGARTEN FUNDING, AND PRE-KINDERGARTEN IS CURRENTLY FOR ELIGIBLE FOUR YEAR OLDS, AND IT MUST OPERATE ON A FULL DAY BASIS.

PRE-KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR HALF DAY ATTENDANCE, SO THEIR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE IS REDUCED BY 50% AND APPLIED TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.

IF PRE-K ADA WAS FULLY FUNDED, THE DISTRICT WOULD GENERATE 350 TO $400,000 MORE IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

NOW, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SPECIAL EDUCATION EARLY CHILDHOOD STUDENTS.

THIS IS THE EXCLUSIVELY THE PRE-K STUDENTS.

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AND SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, JUST LOOKING AT SALARY AND BENEFITS ALONE, EACH PRE-K CLASSROOM COSTS US $46,000 MORE THAN THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED.

WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL COSTS OF CURRICULUM AND SUPPLIES AND OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THOSE CLASSROOMS. TIA DOES HAVE A SCHEDULE.

THEY DETERMINE HOW MUCH EACH DISTRICT CAN CHARGE FOR TUITION, AND THIS WOULD BE OUR SCHEDULE FOR THIS YEAR.

SO IF YOU HAD 20 PRE-K STUDENTS AT THAT YEARLY TUITION, THE DISTRICT WOULD NET ABOUT $10,000 JUST ON SALARIES ALONE.

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE OTHER CURRICULUM SUPPLIES.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY A MONEY MAKER.

THAT'S WHY THEY SET THE TUITION.

THE WAY THEY DO IS BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO BE TO BASICALLY BE COVERING YOUR COSTS.

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF RUNNING A PRE-K PROGRAM, AND THAT IS, IF IT WAS A DAYCARE, IT WOULD HAVE TO RUN THROUGH HHS. EACH CAMPUS WOULD HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED AS A DAYCARE.

AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW TIA'S TUITION BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDER THE GUISE OF THE SCHOOL, BUT UNDER THE GUISE OF A, OF A OF A DAYCARE.

SO. HOW MANY PRE-K CLASSROOMS DO WE HAVE? ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.

YOU DON'T KNOW. LIKE, EXACTLY.

THERE ARE 14 PRE-K CLASSROOMS. LET'S PULL IT UP. SO THIS IS A $648,000 UNFUNDED MANDATE.

OKAY. AND I REMEMBER WE HAD OR YOUR TEAM HAD LOOKED INTO FUNDED PRE-K OR EVEN AS A DAYCARE, AND YOU FOUND OUT THAT IT WASN'T A FEASIBLE PLAN FOR US JUST BECAUSE.

WHAT KIND OF A DIFFERENT CULTURE AND THE COST IT TAKES? I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT IN ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS BEFORE, AND IT WAS CAME WITH A RECOMMENDATION NOT GOING TO BE A MONEY MAKER OR DOESN'T FIT THE CULTURE OF. PLUS TEACHING STUDENTS.

CORRECT. THAT WAS UNDER SOME OTHER STRATEGIC DESIGN STEPS, NOT THIS CURRENT INITIATIVE THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH.

I KNOW MISS SIRCAR AND STEPHANIE FLORES WERE PART OF A COMMITTEE THAT STEPPED INTO THAT SO SHE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE ACTUAL SCHOOL PROGRAM MORE FLUIDLY.

AS SHE JUST SHARED, THOUGH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND TALKED TO OTHER DISTRICTS WHO HAVE TRUE DAYCARE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AT EVERY CAMPUS IS IS COST PROHIBITIVE.

THE LEGAL GUIDELINES, THEY DON'T RUN IN CONFLICT, BUT THEY'RE IN ADDITION TO THE, THE SCHOOL GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE.

JUST THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THAT WITH FIDELITY AND EVEN IN THE HIRING PRACTICES LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

SO THERE WAS NOT FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, YOU SAID, AN APPETITE TO LOOK AT COVERING OUR PRE-K PROGRAM IN THAT WAY.

IS THERE AN INTEREST IN, YOU KNOW, DAYCARE? THERE'S ALWAYS AN INTEREST FOR OUR STAFF.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TALKED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

AND LOOKING INTO IF WE HAD A FACILITY OR PART OF A FACILITY IN ONE LOCATION AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO LOOK INTO POTENTIALLY MORE SO AS THAT RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION PIECE.

BUT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE AND APART.

AND THAT IS STILL A VERY OPEN THING IS SOMETHING IF THAT I WOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO CONSIDER THAT FOR THE STAFF.

BUT THIS WAS MORE OF FOR THE REVENUE DISCUSSION, WHICH DIDN'T GO FAR AT ALL.

CORRECT. BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WAS IT'S REALLY MORE ABOUT BREAKING EVEN.

IT WASN'T A REVENUE GENERATOR.

RIGHT. AND AND BY ADDING A FACILITY, YOU'RE ADDING ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND FACILITY COSTS AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WOULDN'T BE COVERED.

AND I BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT HAS COME UP IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST WANT IT. YEAH, IT COMES UP.

WHY DON'T WE CHARGE ALL THE PARENTS PAY SO MUCH? WHY DOESN'T OUR SCHOOL, DOES IT? IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.

WE HAVE CONSIDERED IT.

IT JUST DOESN'T.

OUR RESEARCH SHOWS IT DOESN'T PROVIDE THE KIND OF REVENUE WE WOULD WANT FROM IT.

BUT HOW MANY EMPTY PRE-K SEATS DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW?

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WE TYPICALLY ARE HAPPY TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW, TOO.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE LEAVING EMPTY SEATS AT PRE-K ANY MORE THAN WE ARE AT ANY OTHER GRADE LEVEL.

SO THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER TO GET PRE-K FULLY FUNDED EITHER.

CORRECT. BECAUSE THE UNIQUE PIECE WITH PRE-K UNLIKE ANY OTHER GRADE LEVEL, YOU HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN AGE BY SEPTEMBER 1ST TO ENTER AT ANY GRADE LEVEL.

AND IF YOU DON'T MEET THAT CUTOFF, THEN YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE UNTIL THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

PRE-K AND EARLY CHILDHOOD WERE REQUIRED TO SERVE ONCE THEY TURN A CERTAIN AGE, AND THAT HAS TO DO MORE WITH THE SPECIAL EDUCATION SUPPORT.

BUT OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD IS EQUALLY AS LARGE FUNDING SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS AND THEIR THE RATIO IS EVEN SMALLER THAN IT IS BASED ON THOSE UNIQUE NEEDS.

AND SO STUDENTS QUALIFY AS THEY TURN A CERTAIN AGE OR AGAIN, WHEN THEY MOVE INTO THE DISTRICT OR THEIR PARENT CHOOSES TO BRING THEM FORWARD.

AND BECAUSE THEY MAY FALL INTO ONE OF THE AREAS THAT QUALIFIES.

SO IT IS RARE THAT WE HAVE ANY OPEN SEATS.

AND IF A SEAT BECOMES OPEN, IT IS VERY QUICKLY FILLED BY ANOTHER STUDENT COMING.

THEY CAN ASK, WHY ARE WE NOT MARKETING IT LIKE DISD, LIKE OTHER DISTRICTS? RIGHT. AND SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.

AND I DO HEAR THOSE ADS A LOT ON THE RADIO.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHY PEOPLE KEEP ASKING ME ABOUT WHY ARE WE NOT DOING IT.

YEAH. SO THEY'RE ALSO GETTING DIFFERENT DOLLARS BASED ON YOUR ELIGIBILITY OF THE LEARNERS THAT ARE IN THERE.

SO IF THEY HAVE LEARNERS THAT ARE QUALIFYING NECESSARILY THAT MAY BE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED, THEY COULD BE GETTING A DIFFERENT COST WITHIN THAT FOR EACH STUDENT.

THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT, ANGIE.

ANOTHER POINT, BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN, MOST OF THE ADS THAT I HEAR ARE FROM LARGER, MORE URBAN DISTRICTS THAT PROBABLY HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

YEAH. AND MAY EVEN HAVE A STRUCTURE ALREADY WHERE THEY HAVE SEVERAL PRE-K CAMPUSES WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME SPACE AVAILABLE.

EXACTLY. MAYBE THIS IS A HISTORICAL QUESTION, BUT HAS THERE ANY GIVEN A REASON WHY IT'S ONLY 50% FUNDED? SINCE YOU KNOW AUSTIN AND AUSTIN, YOU SHOULD ASK JIMMY.

IT USED TO BE HALF DAY AS A PART OF IT THAT DISTRICTS COULD OFFER.

WHEN THEY MADE IT FULL DAY, THEY JUST DID NOT GIVE THE FUNDING, FUNDING THAT THEY REQUIRED IT AS A PART OF IT.

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YEAH.

OKAY. SO THEN THE TUITION PIECE IS THAT SO DO WE HAVE TO ELECT TO CHARGE THAT? WOULD WE, IF WE CHOSE TO DO THAT? YES. SO ANYONE WHO DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR FREE PRE-K, WE WOULD WE WOULD ELECT TO CHARGE THEM TO THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT'S WHY.

THAT'S WHY. BUT RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY WHO'S IN IS UNDER THE FREE ELIGIBLE RIGHT IS ELIGIBLE.

YES. SO THERE'S NO ROOM.

MAKE UP THE UNFUNDED MANDATE.

I'LL CALL ONE OF THE LEGISLATORS THIS EVENING AND ASK, LIKE, WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THIS? THIS MAKES NO SENSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PRE-K? THE OTHER QUESTION WAS COST PER CAMPUS.

AND SO THESE COSTS ARE THE COSTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED WITHIN OUR GENERAL LEDGER SYSTEM DIRECTLY TO THE CAMPUSES.

THIS INCLUDES ALL THE PERSONNEL THAT'S ASSIGNED TO CAMPUSES, CERTAIN OPERATING COSTS SUCH AS LIKE UTILITIES, THAT TYPE OF THING.

SOME COSTS, SUCH AS THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL OF THESE FACILITIES, IS NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDED IN HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T CHARGE A CAMPUS FOR GOING AND FIXING THE PLUMBING THERE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE OF A DISTRICT WIDE COST.

SO THIS IS THE COST.

THE TREND OF THE COSTS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE ORANGE BAR BEING NEW TECH AND THE BLUE BAR BEING CS AND CS NINE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE IN TEAMS. THERE ARE ONE CAMPUS.

THIS IS THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WITH THE BLUE BEING EAST, THE ORANGE BEING WEST AND THE GRAY BEING NORTH. AND THEN THESE ARE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

THE RED NUMBERS INDICATE THAT THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS A COST THIS YEAR.

THAT'S ABOVE THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE COST OF A FOOTPRINT.

ELEMENTARY. THOSE ARE ALL THE FOOTPRINT ELEMENTARIES.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT SOME ELEMENTARIES HAVE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT MAKE THE CAMPUS MORE EXPENSIVE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE PRE-K, YOU HAVE A TEACHER AND AN AIDE IN A CLASSROOM.

SO THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT CLASSROOM MORE EXPENSIVE.

SOME HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS ON THOSE CAMPUSES.

AND SO HERE'S A HERE IS A CHART THAT SHOWS THE LAST SIX YEARS OF COSTS BY

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AND THE PINK DOTTED LINE IS THE CURRENT AVERAGE COST OF A FOOTPRINT SCHOOL.

AND THE DOTTED PURPLE LINE IS THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE COST.

THAT LIGHT BLUE BAR IS THIS PAST YEAR 2223.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COST OF ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THE FOOTPRINTS, ALL OF THEM IS GOING UP.

AND AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MAINLY DRIVEN BY PAYROLL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE PASS ALONG INCREASES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE IN PAYROLL.

BUT BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER.

SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THESE COSTS.

IF WE LOOK AT THIS CHART, WE SEE THAT THE ORANGE BARS SHOW THE TOTAL ENROLLMENT AT THE FOOTPRINT ELEMENTARIES, WHEREAS THE BLUE IS TOTAL ENROLLMENT IN ELEMENTARY AS A WHOLE.

SO WE CAN SEE THAT THE FOOTPRINT ELEMENTARIES ARE LOSING ENROLLMENT.

AND YET THE COST PER STUDENT IS GOING UP BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING ENROLLMENT.

SO THE COST IS GOING UP.

IT'S COST THESE COSTING.

IS THIS JUST LIKE SO DOES THIS INCLUDE LIKE BUILDING MAINTENANCE COST UTILITIES PER CAMPUS SO THAT IT INCLUDES UTILITIES.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE MAINTENANCE COSTS BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY CHARGE BY THE BUILDING, BUT IT INCLUDES SALARIES.

IT INCLUDES CERTAIN OPERATIONAL COSTS IS SPECIFICALLY ALL OF THE UTILITIES THAT ARE THERE BUT PAYROLL FOR EVERYBODY ON CAMPUS.

SO THE TWO NEWEST SCHOOLS, THE NEWER BUILDS AND HAVING MORE STUDENTS HAVE TWO THINGS IN THEIR FAVOR TO BRING THE COST DOWN.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE AND ENROLLMENT.

THEY ARE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.

YES. THIS IS THE STUDENT TEACHER RATIO AND IT INCLUDES ALL TEACHERS ON CAMPUS.

THIS IS NOT JUST THE KINDERGARTEN TEACHER OR THE FIRST GRADE TEACHER.

IT INCLUDES THE PE TEACHER AND THE ART TEACHER.

IT INCLUDES TEACHERS SUCH AS LANGUAGE LANGUAGE ACQUISITION SPECIALISTS, DYSLEXIA SPECIALISTS, SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS.

IT'S NOT AN AVERAGE CLASS SIZE.

THIS IS STUDENT TO ALL THE TEACHER RATIO.

SO FOR THE DISTRICT YOU CAN SEE THE TREND OF HOW THAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEAR AND HOW THAT RATIO IS GOING DOWN.

TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, THAT RATIO SHOULD BE HIGHER.

MORE STUDENTS TO A TEACHER.

IF WE LOOK JUST AT ELEMENTARY, WE CAN SEE THAT THAT'S CONTRIBUTING SIGNIFICANTLY TO IT, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 14 STUDENTS PER TEACHER.

SO WE'VE LOST SOME EFFICIENCY IN OUR TEACHING RATIOS AND MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL.

THE CHART LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT TO SUPPORT THE INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS VERSUS STUDENTS BEING AT A CERTAIN LEVEL WHERE IT IS JUST THE THE TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM ALONE.

YOU'VE GOT THREE, FOUR OR 5 TO 1 SUPPORT LEVELS.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION FROM THE INSTRUCTIONAL PRACTICES AND SUPPORT TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET AS A DISTRICT.

SO WHAT FACTORS PREVENT US REACHING THE RATIO, ESPECIALLY FOR ELEMENTARY TO SAY, 17 TO 18, IF NOT 22? THAT'S THE MAXIMUM.

SO REMEMBER THIS ISN'T CLASS SIZE.

YES. IT'S NOT CLASS SIZE BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT JUST THE CLASSROOM LIKE THE HOMEROOM TEACHER.

SO THIS INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE SUPPORTS ON CAMPUS INCLUDING ALL YOUR SPECIALS TEACHERS FOR THE ELEMENTARIES.

IF I CAN KIND OF SAY IT THAT WAY TAKING MORE OF AN AVERAGE OF LOOKING AT IT.

SO IF YOU HAVE LEARNERS THAT ARE BEING SERVED BY A DYSLEXIA THERAPIST WITHIN THEIR THAT THEY MAY GO AND WORK WITH THEM AT SOME POINT DURING THE DAY.

THAT IS NOT A CLASSROOM.

THIS IS JUST OVERALL.

YEAH. ADULTS TO STUDENTS.

REALLY? YES, EXACTLY.

TEACHERS, TEACHING STAFF.

TEACHING STAFF. YES.

FROM 2017 GOING FROM LOWER 16 PLUS TO 14.

YEP. THAT'S VERY LOW EFFICIENCY.

WHICH WOULD INCREASE OUR OPERATING COSTS QUITE A BIT.

SO THERE IS QUITE A WORK THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED.

BUT YOU'VE ALSO SEEN AN INCREASE IN YOUR SPECIAL ED POPULATION GROWTH.

SO WITH THAT, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT AN INCREASE IN THE SUPPORT TEACHERS THAT ARE NEEDED TO HELP MEET THOSE NEEDS.

SO JUST AS A COUNTERBALANCE OF THAT, IF THAT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF UNFUNDED OR UNDERFUNDED MANDATES.

EXACTLY. CORRECT.

WHICH IS WELL, AND EVEN THOUGH WE DID RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS THROUGH OUR ESSER GRANT, WE ALL HAVE HEARD AND OUR OWN DATA AND REPORTS HAVE

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AND THE UNFINISHED, UNFINISHED LEARNING AND SOME OF THOSE BEHAVIORAL SUPPORTS, AS ANGIE MENTIONED, THAT WERE NEEDED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THEORY, AS YOU KNOW, STUDENTS WERE BOUNCING BACK AND GETTING BETTER, SOME OF THOSE SUPPORTS COULD BE PEELED OFF, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE EITHER. AND SO NOW WE'RE AGAIN LOOKING AT THOSE EFFICIENCIES AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO OPERATE DIFFERENTLY.

ALL RIGHT MISS THAT IS A PRE-K INCLUDED IN THIS.

THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S HUGE. BUT WE'VE ALSO ADDED A STEAM TEACHER AT EVERY AT EVERY CAMPUS TOO.

AND SO THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME EFFICIENCIES.

I THINK THAT WHEN ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE SPECIALISTS TO WHERE YOU WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY STUDENTS THEY ARE SERVING AND IF WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE RATIO OF THE STUDENTS THEY'RE SERVING TO, THE NUMBER OF SPECIALISTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE CAMPUSES.

SO REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EFFICIENCIES AND WHAT TYPE OF EFFICIENCIES WE SHOULD WORK TOWARD WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT STAFFING. SO THE EFFICIENT USE OF BUILDINGS AND ONE OF THE STRATEGIC PLANS, I'M GOING TO LET ANGELA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

AND I WE INCLUDED THIS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DRIVE THIS STRAIGHT BACK TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO UNDER OBJECTIVE SEVEN, UNDER FISCAL AND OPERATIONAL SYSTEMS 7.1 IS THE STRATEGY AND THE SPECIFIC RESULTS.

SEVEN PARENTS 2.1 RESPOND TO DEVELOP AN EVOLUTION PROCESS THAT PROVIDES MORE EFFICIENT FENCED TO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND SAVINGS.

IMPROVED ARMAMENTS WERE CONCURRENCY DATA DRIVEN MAN MAKING AND LONG TUM SUSTAINABILITY AND KILLED MANAGEMENT BY USING ITS SPENDING ONE ADDRESSING LONG TERM NEEDS.

ALL THAT SAYS IS WARD HERE WILL BE ONES BEING CAUGHT HIM RUBRIC A USED IN AN EVALUATION PROCESS TO MAKE AT ATTACKED WITH OUR CAMPUSES AND WE'RE MS TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN IN OUR NEXT ITEM STACKED WITH SO JUST KEEP THAT IN USE IS THIS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO WANTED THIS EXACT BALSAM CENTER IN THIS RESULT AGAIN AND THIS TO SAY IT. SO WE HAVE SOUGHT TO DAN TO YOU ARE REALLY LOOK SON AND AT OUR CITY COST PER CAMPUS STUDENT TO DO AND EVALUATING OF THAT AND HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION BY TEAM.

SO WE STRATEGIC PLAN OUR WAS SENTENCED WITHOUT IMPLEMENTATION WITHOUT WILL MEET THAT WILL LAST BEGIN TO DEVELOP THIS WILL DEFINITION PROCESS SAYS NEARLY I DID WONDER THAT WON'T COVERED.

BUT IS THIS ALSO FOR THE ADMIN IS.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED AROU FROM BEFORE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IT OFF PEAK OF MY HEAD.

IF WE WILL SEE TO HAVE PEOPLE ADMIN BUILDING BURIED, WHAT WOULD THAT THE ONE OF OLSON SAYS SAVINGS WOULD ARE WORK FROM THAT HIS SIDE BEAR IT IS A DEAD ARE PUTTING THING TO SAY AND WHY ISRAEL TALKED ABOUT WHAT DEATH TOLL THE NEED TO RUN THERE ARE IF WHETHER ISRAEL THROUGH THE FACILITY WE LOOKED AT 100,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE MORE, BECAUSE THAT'S MORE SQUARE FOOT THAN WE HAVE IN ALL OF OUR INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS. HOWEVER, IF WE COULD TRANSLATE THAT INTO A BUILDING THAT FIT OUR NEEDS AND WAS MORE EFFICIENT TO RUN, IT WOULD IT WOULD DRIVE SOME SAVINGS.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE WORTH IN THEMSELVES, REASONS FOR THE CITY.

BUT I THINK THAT FOR THE IS SOMETHING WE COULD ONE WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE WHERE WHEN THERE WAS THE OPTION TO TO, WE WILL OFTEN LOOK AT A BUILDING AND RUNS INTO A MULTI-PHASE ADMIN COURSE AND NOT JUST AN US BUILDING.

JUST SET THOSE KIND OF COM NOW TRUMP'S MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.

AND IT'S AS IF WE DID GO DOWN NEW YORK ROAD.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO SELL THE OTHER BUILDING FOR INSTANCE THAT REVENUE WOULDN'T HIS ATTEMPTS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPTIMAL BUDGET THAT REVENUE IN TOWARDS THE INS WAY TO DEBT CORRECT TO THE. YES.

SO IT SELF IMPOSED PROBLEMS BUT IT DOESN'T SOLVE AS WELL AS.

OR THAT REVENUE COULD BE USED TO BUILD THE BUILD TOWARDS THE COST.

IT COULD BE TOWARDS THE COST OF THE BUILDING.

YES. CORRECT. SO YOU'RE TALKING TWO BUCKETS IN THE COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

YES. ADMIN BUILDING IS TWO BUCKETS.

YES, YES. TO OFFER THAT CLARITY.

AND TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT EFFICIENCIES, IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENCY IN THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF INDIVIDUAL HR KINDS OF THINGS.

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THANK YOU. OFF TOPIC, I THINK WE COULD GO TO SINCE WE'RE KIND OF ON THIS TOPIC, WE COULD GO TO THESE CAPACITIES AS WELL. TALK ABOUT THOSE.

SO WE TOOK AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO LOOK AT EACH OF OUR ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES AND LOOKED AT 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND SNAPSHOTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.

THE THE GREEN BOX HAS BEEN A COMMON NUMBER TO LOOK AT A TARGET CAPACITY OF HOW MANY STUDENTS WE WOULD PUT IN THERE.

AND AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING Y'ALL ASKED FOR 89 AND 94% OPPORTUNITY.

WE DO KNOW THAT KRISTIN AND I DID A LITTLE EXERCISE LAST WEEK.

WE CAN RUN UP THOSE NUMBERS AND THOSE FOOTPRINTS OF 600.

THEY REALLY COME OUT TO BE ABOUT 625 630.

BUT WITH ALL THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT WE DIDN'T DO 25 YEARS AGO, WE FEEL THESE ARE GOOD TARGETS. KNOWING THAT SHE CAN STILL SQUEEZE IN A CLASS OR TWO, WHAT WE CALL FLEX SPACE OF IS IT SECOND GRADE, IS IT THIRD GRADE? IS IT FOURTH GRADE ON A PARTICULAR YEAR? AS ROCKY MENTIONED, SOMETIMES YOU GET THAT ONE CLASS AT ONE CAMPUS WE COULD GO PULL A CLASSROOM, BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT IN THE YELLOW AND BLUE, OUR YELLOW IS OUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT AND OUR BLUE IS OUR PROJECTED ENROLLMENT FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT THE NUMBERS THAT ZONDA HAS BEEN USING NEED TO STAY SIMILAR OR LIKE IF YOU'LL NOTICE, LEE IS ADJUSTED JUST SLIGHTLY AND SO IS CANYON RANCH DUE TO PROGRAMS THAT KRISTIN MAY HAVE TO PUT DOWN THERE, THAT MAY NOT BE A FULL 22 TO 1.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THE COLLABORATIVE SPACES, THE WAY LEA'S USING THEIRS, WE FELT LIKE 740 WAS A BETTER TARGET THAN MAYBE 775, BECAUSE WE NEED TO PULL OUT 1 OR 2 SMALL, COLLABORATIVE CLASSROOMS TO REALLY UTILIZE THAT BUILDING APPROPRIATELY.

SO THESE ARE SOME NUMBERS THAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD AS, AS KRISTIN IS STAFFING AS WE'RE LOOKING AT EFFICIENCIES.

AND THEN PER Y'ALL'S REQUEST, WE PUT IN THE 89 AND 94% TARGET THAT I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, 95 ALREADY WITH THAT GREEN OR GREEN AREA RIGHT THERE.

BUT IT'S A GOOD TARGET.

HOW DO WE GET THE 600? BECAUSE I'VE, I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT THAT.

I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT'S MORE LIKE A 550 NUMBER FOR OUR FOOTPRINTS.

AND I THINK I'VE SEEN THOSE NUMBERS IN THE PAST.

SO COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU GET A 600 CAPACITY AT THE FOOTPRINTS? YES, MA'AM. SO WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WHEN WE SAY FOOTPRINT, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE BUILT AUSTIN WITH NO, NO SMALLER SPACES FOR SUPPORT STAFF.

AND THEN WE WENT TO THE NEXT BUILDING AND THEY HAD THREE, AND WE TRIED FOUR AND THEN SO WE LOOKED AT EVERY SPACE, BUT THEN WE REALLY BROKE IT DOWN.

AND ANGIE STARTED OFF WITH PRINCIPAL SHARING THOUGHTS AND IDEAS WITH THEIR SPACE AND HOW THEY WOULD USE IT.

AND A COUPLE OF THEM, I USE THE, THE ANALOGY.

WE HAVE A KING SIZE BED, AND WHEN YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER IS NOT AT HOME, YOU SPREAD OUT AND YOU KIND OF GET COMFORTABLY IN THE BUILDING.

BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BUILDINGS, WE WERE LOOKING AT, WHERE COULD THEY PUT PROGRAMS TO TO EQUATE TO A 22 TO 1 CLASSROOM? AND THEN EVERY ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THEY HAD SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY COULD UTILIZE THEIR UPSTAIRS.

AND JUST THE QUICK EXAMPLE IS ALL OF THEIR VIDEO STUDIOS THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT SIX OF THEM.

KRISTEN, 5 OR 6 WERE IN A BIG CLASSROOM TO WHERE IT DIDN'T CREAK, PUT THEM IN A SMALL FORMER AREA THAT THEY REPURPOSED.

AND NOW WE REGAINED A 22 TO 1 CLASSROOM VERSUS USING THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE FELT LIKE EVERYTHING WAS TURNING OUT TO BE 624 628, 627.

BECAUSE WE WOULD USE THE 25 TO 1 FOR FIFTH GRADE, 22 TO 1.

BUT WE DOUBLE CHECKED EVERYTHING AND IT DOES COME OUT.

AND EVEN HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SID ABOUT LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AND HE SAID 625 TO 640 AND HE IT'S ALL THAT THEORETICAL.

BUT WE FELT LIKE THESE NUMBERS WERE VERY APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT OUR PROGRAMING WAS PER CAMPUS.

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YES. OKAY. WITH THE MAJOR RENOVATION STARTING IN VALLEY RANCH, WOULD IT CAPACITY GO UP? YES. FOR FOR CLASSROOMS. SO ABOUT 100, ABOUT 100.

SO IT WILL GO FROM 600 TO 700, WHICH WILL MAKE US EVEN FURTHER UNDERUTILIZED ON OUR FACILITIES WHEN IT COMES TO ELEMENTARY.

YES. WITH TWO MORE SCHOOLS SCHEDULED TO GO.

AND WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FOOTPRINT ELEMENTARIES? RIGHT AT 80,000.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER.

I'M GIVING YOU A. THAT'S A FULL BALLPARK.

BUT EVEN IF WE DROPPED THE CAPACITY TO 550, YOU CAN SEE WHERE SOME OF THE SCHOOLS ARE NOT AS EFFICIENT AS THEY COULD BE.

SURE, SURE. MY MEMORY IS THAT WE ALWAYS KEPT IT AS A HIGH TARGET OF 605 50 VERY COMFORTABLY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REZONING ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, I REMEMBER 550 AS A VERY COMFORTABLE BUT TARGET OF 600. RIGHT. AND WE'VE SEEN REMEMBER, VALLEY RANCH SPIKED PRETTY HIGH BEFORE CANYON RANCH WAS, I SAID BEFORE CANE RIDGE WAS BORN AND RAISED.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IDEAL LONG TERM, BUT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING SHORT TERM WITH THE PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO BE ADDING ANOTHER SCHOOL IN THE SOUTH.

AND SO AGAIN, THESE NUMBERS HAVE SOME VARIANCES THERE.

BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TARGET TO BE ABLE TO PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD.

AS WE REMODEL THREE SCHOOLS IN THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF, MAXIMUM TWO YEARS.

WE WILL INCREASE THE CAPACITY BY 300, TAKING OUR TARGET CAPACITY TO 7000, WHILE THE ENROLLMENT WILL BE 5550 AND EXPECTED TO GO EVEN FURTHER DOWN.

LET'S TALK ABOUT AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENCIES.

IF IT'S SOMETHING CLOSE TO A SILVER BULLET.

THAT'S WHAT THIS THIS IS THIS WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON OUR REVENUE IF WE CAN GET THIS EFFICIENCY IN PLACE.

HOW MUCH DOES IT TAKE TO RUN A SCHOOL? LIKE IF YOU WERE TO SHUT A SCHOOL, WHAT WOULD YOU GET FOR EMINEM? ABOUT 3.6 MILLION, I BELIEVE.

IT DEPENDS HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS WOULD NEED TO MOVE, BECAUSE THERE WOULD THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TEACHERS THAT WOULD NEED TO MOVE SOMEWHERE TO SUPPORT THE STUDENTS THAT MOVED.

THAT YOU'RE ELIMINATING THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATIVE COST.

PRINCIPAL ASSISTANT. PRINCIPAL COUNSELOR.

POTENTIALLY. YOU KNOW, THE SPECIALS TEAM BECAUSE THEY COULD BE SERVED IN LIBRARIAN VERSUS YOU HAVE THESE BUS ROUTES.

EXACTLY. I'M NOT.

YEAH. OTHERS AND TITUSS AND SO I UNDERSTAND BE ARE IF YOU SHUT UP, YOU STILL HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY GIVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE TO THAT GO THERE.

THEY JUST GO TO CURTIS A BUT JUST S CLOSING IN RE IT BE FAIR YOU SAY 0.6 OF THE 3.6 AS TO WHAT THEY COST.

WHEN YOU LOOKED BACK AT THE COST OF THE SCHOOL.

AGAIN, IF YOU'LL REMOVE DATES BACK HERE, THOSE ARE ALL MAYBE AROUND 3.64 COMPARE, DIDN'T YOU IN THERE? SOME ARE THREE FOUR AND CALL.

SO SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE MADE WOULD GO TO SOME OF THE STAFF WOULD.

MOVE, WITH THE STUDENTS ONE BEING 3.5 MILLION.

IT MAY BE CLOSE TO TWO.

2.25. LESS THAN THAT? YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BETWEEN 2 AND 2 AND 2.5 IS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING? YES. THE TWO RANGE.

TWO PLUS. YES.

TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN WE SPENT THREE HOURS TALKING ABOUT TABLE SCRAPS WHEN THIS IS YOUR SILVER BULLET.

YEAH. REALLY MAKE A DENT IN THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.

DO WE KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST IF A PROGRAM, IF PROGRAMS MOVED OR GOT COMBINED? SO I KNOW RIGHT BEFORE I CAME ON THE BOARD, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT, LIKE DLI BEING ON ONE CAMPUS, NOT TWO.

OR WHAT WOULD THE COST BE IF YOU KEPT IBE ELEMENTARY, BUT YOU MOVED IT TO A BIGGER CAMPUS AND YOU COULD HAVE MORE KIDS GO THERE.

BUT I KNOW WE'D HAVE TO TRAIN TEACHERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE IB CERTIFIED.

SO DO WE KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE COSTS OF NOT GETTING RID OF PROGRAMS, BUT KIND OF SHIFTING WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED TO GET SOME BUILDING EFFICIENCIES YOU KNOW, MIGHT COST AND I KNOW DLI TEACHERS ARE SOMETIMES HARD FOR US TO FIND.

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AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU'RE ON BOTH CAMPUSES, YOU'RE RUNNING KIND OF TWO DISTINCT PROGRAMS AT EACH LEVEL.

SO YOU CAN'T TAKE STUDENTS THAT ENROLL INTO THE GENERAL ED AND PUT THEM INTO SPACES IN THE DLI PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, TO FILL SEATS.

SO THERE WOULD BE SOME EFFICIENCIES WITH STAFFING, BOTH WITH THE DLI PROGRAM EXACTLY AS IT'S OFFERED NOW, TWO WAY, YOU KNOW, BOTH LANGUAGES, SPANISH AND ENGLISH. THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCIES POTENTIALLY TO PROGRAM, BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE, YOU KNOW, OF A CURRICULUM TOPIC.

THERE ARE SOME EFFICIENCIES, YOU KNOW, IN COMBINING GEN ED, THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCIES WITH SUPPORT.

FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BILINGUAL SPECIAL ED TEACHER PROVIDING PUSH AND SUPPORT ON EACH OF THOSE CAMPUSES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ONE INDIVIDUAL ON ONE CAMPUS MATERIALS TRAININGS HAVING TO HOUSE THOSE IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

THERE CAN BE SOME EFFICIENCIES THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE EXACT COSTS ARE WITHOUT LOOKING AT SOME OF THAT.

AND THEN ANGIE, I KNOW THERE'S SOME.

YEAH. AND WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY DETAIL KIND OF SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS IF YOU DO A CONSOLIDATION OF SOME SORT WITHIN THAT, THAT YOU'RE ALSO TAKING THOSE STUDENTS.

AND SO KNOWING THAT IF YOU WERE TO SAY ONE OR THE OTHER WITHIN THAT, THEN THAT SCHOOL HAS A FAIRLY LARGE HOLE FOR THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE THERE IF YOU WERE CONSOLIDATING. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, TOO, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT JUST AS A WHOLE, ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I'M THINKING JUST LIKE PURELY NO PROGRAMS GOING AWAY, JUST ONLY LOOKING AT EFFICIENCIES, WHAT ARE THE DOLLARS? AND AGAIN, IF YOU MOVED IB TO A BIGGER ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, WHAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL COSTS INITIALLY OF DOING THAT? BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY WOULD NEED TO TAKE THE WHOLE TEAM AND THEN ADD SOME IF YOU MADE IT A LARGER BECAUSE AM I? I'M RIGHT AT ELEMENTARY, THE WHOLE CAMPUS HAS TO BE.

YES. CORRECT. OKAY.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THOSE TWO THINGS BECAUSE.

SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. THE COST OF HAVING DLI ON ONE CAMPUS INSTEAD OF TWO, BUT NOT CHANGING THE PROGRAM, AND THE COST OF EXPANDING IB TO A BIGGER ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, BUT KNOWING WE WOULD NEED TO TRAIN STAFF.

IN FACT, ADDING ON TO THAT, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING IB, WHAT I WOULD REALLY WANT TO SEE IB IN TWO CAMPUSES AND IN A MIDDLE SCHOOL IF IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A FULL FLEDGED IB PROGRAM START TO END, WHAT WOULD THAT COST BE? BECAUSE WE'LL NEED AT LEAST TWO ELEMENTARIES WITH IB TO FEED A MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND REMEMBER, THE MIDDLE YEARS PROGRAM DOESN'T JUST GO FOR LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

IT ALSO CAPTURES THE NINTH AND YOU KNOW.

YES. SO JUST AS A JUST AS A REMINDER ON THAT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE SPLIT CAMPUS, IF WE HAVE ENTIRE STARTEL AND IB, IF WE TALK ABOUT CREATING DIFFERENTIATION RIGHT IN THE SCHOOL IN EXCELLENCE BEING OUR DESTINATION DISTRICT, THAT DOING AN IB PROGRAM WITH DISTINCTION WOULD DEFINITELY PUT US IN THAT MAP.

THAT'S HOW I, THAT'S WHAT I AND THE COST WOULD BE FOR THAT BECAUSE.

YEAH. BECAUSE EXACTLY IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT THAT'S WONDERFUL.

GREAT. HERE YOU ARE. THIS IS WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.

AND I KNOW THAT WOULD BE A COST.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, I'LL ADDRESS THE WOULD YOU PULL PEOPLE NECESSARILY THAT ARE COMING.

YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. BUT I WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE TOPIC ON THAT SAME TOPIC ON IB ELEMENTARIES HAVE TO BE ALL IB HIGH SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.

WHAT ABOUT THE MIDDLE YEARS? THEY DO HAS TO BE ALL OKAY, SO IT'S ONLY THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL THAT OKAY.

JUST SO THERE'S SOME COMPLETE TRANSPARENT.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THERE'S SOME VARIATION THAT YOU COULD DO WITH THE NINTH GRADE WITHIN THAT.

SO JUST KNOW BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN IT'S THEN YOU'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL COURSE AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

THANK YOU. BEFORE BEFORE YOU CHANGE, I MEAN, ON THAT TOPIC, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A COST, I MEAN, WE ALSO GOT TO LOOK AT JUST THE BENEFIT SIDE OF IT TOO.

ARE WE SEEING THAT MUCH IMPROVEMENT FROM OUR IB STUDENTS IN TERMS OF GRADUATION, WHERE THEY'RE GOING, THEIR PREPAREDNESS? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S GOT TO BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, TOO.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING A PROGRAM, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT FROM THE REPORT WE GOT FROM ONE OF THE CONSULTANT? I WISH STUDENTS HAD MORE THAN 100 AVERAGE SAT SCORES AND PLAYS MUCH BETTER IN COLLEGE.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE REPORT WE GOT A YEAR OR SO AGO FROM.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FROM GIBSON.

I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR ANECDOTAL.

OUR ACTUAL DATA IS NOT SHOWING THAT THAT'S WHAT GIBSON SHOWED FROM OUR DATA THIRD PARTY.

WE CAN PULL THAT BACK UP TO YOU FOR YOU ALL SO Y'ALL CAN REVIEW THAT JUST TO REFRESH THE WHOLE IB LANDSCAPE.

ON THAT NOTE ON THE QUESTION, ME HOW I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE WHO GRADUATED WITH IN HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE WERE EXPOSED TO IT BEFORE THE COURT, LIKE IN

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WE'RE FINDING SOME OF THE INFORMATION WAS TEENS TEACHERS THAT WERE SOURCES THAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO GET THAT TEACHER.

THEY WERE ONLY ONE TEACHING OR GPA ADDITIONAL POINTS.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND AGAIN, BEING A PARENT OF TWO IB KIDS, THE YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T MEASURE THIS OR YOU CAN'T SCORE THIS YOU ACF TO I SAW IS THE COLLEGE PREPAREDNESS AND OF OUR PARENTS TWO KIDS.

I'M NOT EVERYBODY, BUT THE GOOD CHUNK PERCENTAGE ARE COLLEGE FOCUSED STUDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND IB PROGRAM DOES PREPARE THEM IN A SPECIAL WAY WHEN THEY ARE DOING MORE COMPREHENSION STUDIES, ELICITING THE ANSWERS, TAKING CAMPS FOR PREPAREDNESS ON A LOT OF FANS OF TO BE SAID ABOUT 20.

20. THAT'S AGAIN ADDING TO HER EXPENSES FOR THEM.

BUT WHEN TO TALK AND THE ELEPHANT IN THAT SUB RIGHT MEANS AFTER REMEMBER OF 320 FOOTPRINTS AND TWO IF FOOD ICE BOND EVER AGAIN WHEN IT COMES.

FOOTHILL WILL GET RENOVATED TOO.

SO I'M TAKING CAPACITY OF ABOUT 7000.

BUT LET ME RIGHT NOW IT'S 5050, DOC WHICH WAS EXPECTED TO GO TRAIN IN COMING YEARS.

I SEE CAPACITY TO.

EVEN IF THERE WERE TWO LESS ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WE'LL STILL HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY.

AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVINGS AT A HIGH LEVEL, SAVINGS OF, SAY, ABOUT $2.5 MILLION PER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT'S $5 MILLION SAVINGS RIGHT THERE. PLUS, IF READER GETS A GROUP THAT'S 2.7 RIGHT THERE, THAT'S 7.7. NOW, IF AUSTIN GOVERNOR ABBOTT GETS HIS VOUCHERS IN, WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME, HE WILL RELEASE MORE MONEY, WHICH HE HAS KEPT 4 TO $6 BILLION FOR PUBLIC ED.

AND WE GET SOME HELP FROM THERE.

WELL, MAYBE.

MAYBE HE MAY NOT EVEN DO THAT.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T COUNT IF HE KEEPS HIS WORD, IF HE KEEPS HIS WORD THAT IF THE VOUCHERS COME, THEN HE WOULD RELEASE THAT MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS A CONDITIONAL AND HIS CONDITION NEVER GOT MET.

SO NO BILL EVER PASSED.

IF THAT HELP COMES THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR DEFICIT.

TALK ABOUT.

TWO BIG SILVER BULLETS, VADER AND CREATING EFFICIENCY.

AND WE STILL WON'T BE EVEN CLOSE TO THE CAPACITY IN OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IF THERE WERE TWO LESS FACILITIES, WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF EXCESS CAPACITY.

WE STILL COULD BE WORKING AT 90% CAPACITY AND STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL THE KIDS AND STILL HAVE ABOUT 600 CAPACITY LEFT.

MANY OF TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA AND PRESIDENT KEVIN ESSER.

THEY ASK WHAT YOU WANTED FOR DISCUSS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SORT OF HOW HIS MEET THE DEFICIT AND LONG RUN WAS IS HIS TALK ABOUT QUALITY.

THEY ARE ARE ELEMENTARY AT THE HEART SQUARE FOOT WHICH OVERALL IN THE STATE GOT ARAM.

WE I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FROM THESE NUMBERS.

LOOKED LIKE WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS, THE DEMOGRAPHICS SHOWED US TWO BECAUSE OF THE BUMP BACK INTO SECONDARY SCHOOLS.

RIGHT. SO YOUR REFRESH YOUR ENROLLMENT IS NOT HIGH COMING INTO KINDERGARTEN, BUT THEN YOU GET A BUMP WHICH IS USUALLY FROM OUT OF DISTRICT. AND THAT'S WHY EVEN I'M TALKING 90% CAPACITY.

RIGHT. WELL, OUR TARGET CAPACITY IS 10% HIGHER THAN THAT.

SO EVEN IF WE GET INTO A MAJOR REGENERATION OF OUR COMMUNITIES, 10% IS A HUGE GROWTH WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THOSE SURPRISES.

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WHAT DO WE NEED? WHAT DO YOU ALL NEED FROM US FOR? FOR TO EXPLORE OPTIONS IN THIS AREA.

I THINK IT WAS HELPFUL WHEN YOU ALL MENTIONED EARLIER JUST TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMS AND WANTING TO HAVE AND KEEP SPECIFIC PROGRAMS, WHATEVER THOSE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, STILL KIND OF JUST TALKING THROUGH THAT OF HOW IT WOULD LOOK.

RIGHT. BUT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT.

IF WE DO HAVE TO CONSOLIDATE OR GO, WHETHER IT'S ONE, WHETHER IT'S TWO, WHATEVER WE MAY HAVE TO DO WITH DECISIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL TO SAY THAT'S AT LEAST A STARTING POINT WHERE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE ABLE TO ONCE AGAIN KEEP THE STRONG PROGRAMS AND WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING WITH LOOKING AT CONSOLIDATION.

THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL ON MY END.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK.

BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN FEEDBACK ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT YOU ALL HAVE SAID, PROGRAMS OVER FACILITIES, I THINK.

UTILIZING THE PROCESS THAT ANGELA AND CHRIS MENTIONED AND DISCUSSED ABOUT THE CONNECTIONS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THE RUBRIC AND, AND WHAT WOULD BE THE SCHOOLS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE ENROLLMENT, BUT OTHER COMPONENTS AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL PIECE BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE FUN TIMES WHEN THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS ARE MADE. BECAUSE EVEN IF WE DID LOOK AT TWO, AND IF WE STICK TO THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES OF HANDLING ALL OF THE PERSONNEL REDUCTIONS THROUGH ATTRITION, THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

BASED ON WHAT KRISTEN SAID, TOO, ABOUT THE POSITIONS AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

WE'RE WE'RE IN A A DIFFERENT SITUATION NOW AND THAT THOSE POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT BEING REPLACED, SOMEBODY CAN DO THAT WORK.

OR THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO FIND A SPOT FOR THEM.

WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO FIND A SPOT FOR THE PEOPLE.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE COULDN'T.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WOULD NEED TO KNOW AS MUCH TIME IN ADVANCE TO HELP NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS, BUT THE STAFF AS WELL.

AND I WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS WELL WHEN WE DID LEE ORIGINALLY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO BE TO DOCTOR HUNT'S COMMENTS AND TO DOCTOR BROOKS HOLISTIC, RIGHT.

IT'S NOT THIS BINARY.

WE DO THIS AND EVERYTHING FALLS INTO PLACE.

THERE'S A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT YOU HAVE THAT GOES ACROSS THAT.

AND TO UNDERSTAND THE TOTALITY, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO ACHIEVE AND CAN YOU ACHIEVE IT ONCE YOU DO THAT? BECAUSE THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS SAY, YES, LET'S GO DO IT AND HAVE THE FALSE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE AN OUTCOME AND SUSTAIN IT GOING FORWARD.

THAT IS THAT IS MISLEADING AND COULD LEAD YOU DOWN THE WRONG PATH, BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO IT, YOU CAN'T UNDO IT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS PEOPLE DO REMEMBER IT TOO.

AND AND THEY REMEMBER IT TODAY.

RIGHT WHEN I GO OUT AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LEADING, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT RICHARD J.

LEE OVER IN CYPRESS WATERS, THEY TALK ABOUT RICHARD J.

LEE. THERE'S OVER OF THE LOCATION THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN.

SO IT'S JUST REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND BEING COMPREHENSIVE.

SO THAT ACTUALLY FITS WITH SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WRESTLING WITH IS THAT DOLLAR AND CENTS WISE, CLOSING A CAMPUS MAKES SENSE.

I THINK IT'S HARD TO ARGUE DOLLAR AND CENTS WISE IT DOESN'T.

AND THEN FOR ME, I'M LIKE, WELL, THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THAT BUILDING? LIKE TO MOTHBALL A BUILDING AND TO HAVE YOUR KIDS HAVE ATTENDED A SCHOOL THAT THEY COULD HAVE WALKED TO, AND NOW IT'S SITTING THERE EMPTY.

BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A CHARTER SCHOOL TO COME BY ONE OF OUR CAMPUSES AND DO SOMETHING.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE THING.

SO AGAIN, LIKE HOW IT'S ALL INTERCONNECTED, LIKE ONE THING I'D WONDERED IS WOULD YOU HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO, YOU KNOW, REMODEL A FOOTPRINT ELEMENTARY AND MAKE IT A COMPREHENSIVE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING? AND THERE'S NO RISK OF SELLING THIS BUILDING OR SELLING VICTORY PLACE OR, YOU KNOW, LEVELING.

BROCK. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT ITS MARKET VALUE IS, BUT BUT SO TO ME, I'M LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE PULLING THIS ONE THREAD AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PULLING THE THREAD.

BUT IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE HAVE TO INTENTIONALLY KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN IS FOR WHATEVER THE OTHER FACILITY IS, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF LEAVING OURSELVES WIDE OPEN WHERE WE'VE BEEN PRETTY WELL INSULATED SO FAR.

YES, REPURPOSE SONGS BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEED OF ADMIN BUILDING, AND IF WE HAVE A PLACE AND IF WE CAN DO IT IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY, MAKES MORE SENSE THAN

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YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY LIKE REALLY FAR IN AGE OR SOMETHING IN A CENTRAL AREA TO MOST OF THE SCHOOLS MAKES MORE SENSE BECAUSE THAT'S LESS DRIVING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF TO THE CAMPUS. RIGHT? IT'S EFFICIENCY.

BUT WHEN EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DIVEST, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THAT IT CANNOT BE USED FOR THE SCHOOLS.

IT CAN GO WITH THIS.

IT'S A VERY STANDARD PRACTICE, LIKE WHENEVER YOU DIVESTING.

AND I'VE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION SCHOOL DISTRICTS COULD NOT DO THAT.

I THOUGHT CHARTERS HAD TO HAVE THE FIRST DO.

YEAH. THEY'RE OFFERED UP THEIR RESTRICTIONS ON IT.

WE THERE WE THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS WE CANNOT PUT ON IT.

CORRECT. WE GOT CHARTERS COME UNDER PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE TO OFFER IT TO THEM FIRST.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S A SEPARATE NEW.

WHY? WELL, IT MAKES NO SENSE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SELL AUTHENTIC REACTION THAT MAKES LOOKING AT HOW TO FAIL PUBLIC EDUCATION.

AND IT'S NOT UNFORESEEN.

BUT I WANT TO BACK WAY, WAY UP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I DO NOT WANT ANYBODY WATCHING IN PERSON OR FROM HOME SUGGESTING THAT THE DISTRICT IS WANTING TO CLOSE A SCHOOL TO MAKE IT AN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

I THINK THE PROCESS HAS TO GO THROUGH, LET THAT COMMITTEE DO ITS WORK.

AND I KNOW IT WOULD BE A UNCOMFORTABLE PIECE TO MOTHBALL THE SCHOOL, BUT AT LEAST THEN IT'S THE COST SAVINGS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. CORRECT. BUT LAST YEAR, THERE WAS SOME THINGS THAT WERE SAID THAT BRAD WANTS TO HAVE HIS ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE.

NO, THAT'S NOT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE SPACE.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER NEEDS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIC PLANNING GROUP ABILITY TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO BEFORE ANY OF THIS GETS ALL OUT IN JACKED UP WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THEY START MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAVEN'T EVEN HAPPENED YET.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NEW ADMIN BUILDING.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING ANY LIKE WE'RE TALKING WE'RE CONSIDERING OPTIONS.

BUT WHILE I WAS SAYING IS I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONVERSATION, IF WE GO DOWN A ROAD, THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.

YES, BECAUSE THAT IS THE RISK IF WE ONLY TALK ABOUT ONE PART AT A TIME.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO BACK TO WE'LL HAVE THIS IMPLEMENTATION TEAM FOR 7.1.1 THAT WILL LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY AND LOOK AT AND REALLY DEVELOP AN EVALUATION PROCESS THAT WE CAN USE FOR EVERY FACILITY, FOR EVERY SITUATION THAT WE COME THROUGH.

THAT'S A HOLISTIC PROCESS.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE RELEASING IN, IN OUR FORM THIS WEEK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON AN IMPLEMENTATION TEAM.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET TO PICK WHICH ONE YOU WANT.

IT GETS TO SAY YOU GET TO PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT.

AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON THIS ON THEIR ACTION PLAN THAT WE THINK WOULD BE A GREAT GROUP TO HELP WORK ON THIS.

BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN AN IMPLEMENTATION TEAM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING A 16 OF THESE THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PEOPLE SUBMIT THEIR NAMES. IF YOU HAVE NAMES FOR PEOPLE YOU'D LIKE TO SERVE ON IMPLEMENTATION TEAMS, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

WE'RE GOING TO BE RELEASING THAT INFORMATION.

THIS SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION TEAM WILL BEGIN TO WORK AND WILL BEGIN TO DEVELOP THIS EVALUATION PROCESS, THIS RUBRIC, AND WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY WILL BEGIN TO MEET THIS SPRING.

SO THIS IS THIS IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN SLATED FOR OUR YEAR ONE IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS REALLY NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START THEM IN YEAR ZERO.

SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEED SO THIS THIS TEAM WILL WILL BEGIN TO MEET THIS SPRING.

SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION, THAT 7.1.1 IMPLEMENTATION TEAM WILL BEGIN TO WORK ON THIS EVALUATION PROCESS.

SO RELATED TO THAT I HAVE A QUESTION.

AND IT'S A HOW DO WE MOVE TO A PER STUDENT RED YELLOW GREEN RANGE BY NEED NOT JUST BY CAMPUS.

SO LIKE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT PER STUDENT MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT IF STUDENTS ARE IN DIFFERENT SUBPOPULATIONS.

BUT IT JUST LIKE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M LIKE, IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE A FOOTPRINT AVERAGE, BUT EVERY FOOTPRINT IS NOT THE SAME.

LIKE WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLES TO APPLES.

SO I WAS JUST LIKE, SHOULD WE HAVE FOR OUR ADMINISTRATORS A RANGE OF RED, YELLOW, GREEN, IF THEY'RE PER STUDENT COST BASED UPON THE SUB POP'S OF STUDENTS ON THEIR CAMPUS.

BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO MAKE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON TO OUR CAMPUSES RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE DONE THAT AS BEST WE CAN.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE THE RUBRIC WOULD HELP, OKAY.

BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE OUT THAT COST OF THIS PROGRAM ON THIS CAMPUS, THAT PROGRAM COULD BE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT CAMPUS

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SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE THAT RUBRIC NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING, AND NOT JUST ON A COST PER STUDENT BASIS.

I'LL SAY I'LL SAVE THAT IN CASE I NEED TO ASK IT LATER.

THANKS. NEXT.

ATTENDANCE RATES VERY QUICKLY.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ON AS WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE FACT THAT A 1% DROP IN ATTENDANCE RATE COSTS US ALMOST $1 MILLION. AND SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT OUR ATTENDANCE RATES HAVE BEEN, AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT OUR ATTENDANCE RATES IN OTHER AREAS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS THE LAST TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX YEARS OF ATTENDANCE DATA.

AND BACK BEFORE COVID, THE BLUE NUMBERS MEAN IT'S ABOVE 97.6 OR IT'S 97.

IT'S IT'S ABOVE 96.7, WHICH WAS OUR AVERAGE.

SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY GRADE LEVELS WERE IN THE BLUE THERE.

2220 2021 WAS REMOTE.

SO WE KIND OF IGNORE THAT MIDDLE COLUMN, BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW EVERYTHING TURNS RED, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE BELOW THAT 96.7%, AND IN FACT, WE'RE EVEN A WHOLE PERCENT.

IF IT'S FILLED IN WITH RED, WE'RE WE'RE BELOW IT BY A WHOLE PERCENT.

SO REALLY, RIGHT NOW, OUR FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADERS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE CARRYING THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW IN 23, 24.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

IMPORTANTLY, WE APPRECIATE THEIR PARENTS.

YES, BECAUSE THEY'RE HELPING TO GET THEM THERE.

AND SO I'LL LET ANGELA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT WE THIS SCHOOL YEAR LAUNCHED A 12 WEEK ATTENDANCE CAMPAIGN TO LAUNCH THIS SCHOOL YEAR CALLED ATTENDANCE MATTERS, YOU MATTER.

AND THAT INCLUDED SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN.

YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL OF THEM UP THERE.

IT INCLUDED EMAILS.

IT INCLUDED FACTS IN THEIR NEWSLETTER.

WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING THIS CAMPAIGN BACK TO END OUR SPRING WITH THAT.

AND THEN AGAIN LAUNCH IT IN IN THE FALL.

AND I PUT A COUPLE OF THESE UP HERE TO SHOW YOU THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, IF YOU TOLD US THAT THAT IT MATTERED IN MONEY, WE WOULD HAVE PAID MORE ATTENTION.

AND I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP JUST TO SAY, WELL, WE DID BUT WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHY I PUT A FEW OF THESE UP HERE TO SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR 12 WEEKS AND 12 LONG WEEKS, AND, AND WE WE DID A PRETTY ROBUST CAMPAIGN.

AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO MESSAGE THIS OUT.

WE WE DID SEE A SLIGHT JUMP IN IN ATTENDANCE.

IT WAS SLIGHT, BUT HEY, WE'LL TAKE WHAT WE CAN GET.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH HARDER AND EDUCATE FAMILIES.

THAT IS THE BIG PIECE, ONE OF THE BIG PIECES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PRESENTATIONS.

AND YOU SEE A LOT OF AHA'S, YOU HEAR SOME GASPS IN THE AUDIENCE EVERY TIME WE SAY IT.

AND I THINK THE MORE THAT WE DO THAT, THE IT WILL HELP TO IMPACT THIS PIECE.

WE DO OUR BEST TO MESSAGE THAT OUT.

AS ANGELA SAID, EVEN PRIOR TO OUR ATTENDANCE MATTERS CAMPAIGN.

BUT IT IS SOMETIMES CHALLENGING AS THINGS COME UP AND FAMILIES ELECT TO JUST DO SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

I'LL TAKE THE ECLIPSE FOR TODAY.

WE HAD THE OPT OUT OPTION FOR PARENTS WITH SOME GREAT ACTIVITIES PLANNED.

I DROVE AROUND AND SAW MOST OF OUR SCHOOLS AND AND AS I DROVE THROUGH THE COMMUNITIES I OR OUR COMMUNITY, I WOULD SEE PEOPLE OUTSIDE WITH THEIR CHILDREN THAT THEY KEPT HOME THAT DAY. AND I JUST THOUGHT YOU COULD JUST WALK RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AND BE AT THE SCHOOL WITH YOUR FRIENDS.

BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY ELECTED TO DO THAT.

AND WE DID SEE A DROP IN OUR ATTENDANCE TODAY.

RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS, THAT'S DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW, WE DO WE DO SEE THAT ON SOME RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS.

WE CAN'T HAVE EVERY RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY OFF.

SO WE DO SEE THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SENIORITIS, YOU SAW THOSE SENIOR THAT DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO COVID.

NOW IT'S STILL ABOUT THE SAME.

BUT THOSE EARLY GRADES, WE WERE ALWAYS HITTING IT OUT OF THE PARK.

AND WE JUST NEED TO REFINE THAT ONE.

KIDS DO BETTER WHEN THEY'RE IN SCHOOL.

THEY DO BETTER ACADEMICALLY.

THEY DO BETTER SOCIALLY, NUMBER ONE, BUT ALSO NUMBER ONE, IT'S A FINANCIAL PIECE FOR US, AND WE JUST HAVE TO REALLY HELP OUR PARENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. ANY IF YOU'RE SICK AND YOU GOT A FEVER, STAY HOME.

BUT THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR KIDS ARE JUST KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL TODAY AND WE KEEP THEM HOME, OR WE'RE GOING TO EXTENDED VACATIONS OR WHATEVER WE MIGHT BE DOING. WE JUST HAVE TO REALLY HELP OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES.

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IF HOPEFULLY OUR ATTENDANCE NUMBERS IMPROVE ON THOSE DAYS, TOO, FROM A SYSTEMATIC, YOU KNOW, APPROACH, KIND OF TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT YOU COULD PUT IN THE SURVEY, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE 100% ATTENDANCE OR PAY THIS MUCH COST THE DISTRICT THIS MUCH PER.

THEY YOU MISS? I MEAN, IT'S A COST TO US.

THIS IS LIKE AN EASY, EASY MILLION DOLLARS.

IF THE COMMUNITY WOULD COME TOGETHER.

THIS IS $1 MILLION WE DON'T NEED TO ASK THE COMMUNITY FOR EVERY POINT IS $1 MILLION.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

LIKE, IF WE GET TO WHERE WE WERE, THAT'S $1 MILLION.

OUR COMMUNITY COULD CONTRIBUTE.

YEAH, BY PROBABLY NOT DOING VERY MUCH AT THEIR OWN HOUSEHOLD.

AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO BUY OUR BIAS.

RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

WE WON'T DO ANY PIE SALES.

NO, WE DON'T NEED TO BUY THOSE PIES AND AND GET YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL ANYMORE.

I THINK THIS IS GREAT THAT WE'RE EDUCATING THE FAMILIES AND YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB.

YOU KNOW, PUTTING ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE KIDS KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE MONEY PART, MIDDLE SCHOOLERS AND HIGH SCHOOLERS, BECAUSE IT GETS THEIR ATTENTION.

I MEAN, SOME ABSENCES ARE UNAVOIDABLE.

GOOD POINT. BUT JUST BECAUSE, LIKE, WE HAD TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT AND I WAS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH MY DAUGHTER, I SAID, LET'S DO IT AFTER NOON.

AND THEN AND IT WAS DOABLE.

SO, I MEAN, AND IT REALLY KIND OF GOT HER ATTENTION THAT, OH, IT MATTERS THAT IF IT IS JUST A DAY LIKE THAT, I HAVE TO BE AT SCHOOL AND IT MATTERS TO SCHOOL BECAUSE $1 MILLION, RIGHT? NO, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD.

RANNA YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE VERY OFTEN WOULD SAY THAT A CHILD'S ABSENCE WAS $50 ONE DAY.

ABSENT WAS $50.

SO IT ADDS UP WHEN YOU HAVE 13,000 STUDENTS.

YEAH. OKAY.

THE VERY LAST ONE, THE REQUEST WAS WHAT STAFF HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE 17, 18.

AND SO THAT WAS ABOUT THE TIME THAT WE HAD AROUND 12,900 STUDENTS AND WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHER JUST TOLD US.

BUT WE'VE ADDED SOME STAFFING IN SPECIAL EDUCATION AND 22 POSITIONS IN CAMPUS SUPPORT, WHICH CAN INCLUDE TESTING COORDINATORS AND COUNSELORS, DIGITAL LEARNING COACHES, INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES, LIBRARIANS AND NURSES.

AS AS SOME OF THE EXAMPLES ADDED THREE PROGRAM DIRECTORS OR COORDINATORS WE'VE ADDED 67 EDUCATIONAL AIDES TO SUPPORT SPECIAL EDUCATION, INCLUDING EARLY CHILDHOOD, 16 CAMPUS AIDES, AND SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAM AIDES THAT ASSIST WITH OUR ESL OR OUR FINE ARTS PROGRAMS, AND THEN HAVE ADDED 165 EDUCATORS, MAINLY BASED UPON ENROLLMENT.

BUT REMEMBER THAT CANYON RANCH OPENED SINCE THAT TIME.

SO WE ADDED SOME SOME STAFFING THERE.

AND THEN I'VE JUST LISTED SOME OTHER MORE THE HIGHER NUMBERS THERE AT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS AND HOW SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE CHANGED.

THE ENROLLMENT PRIOR BACK IN 20 1718 AND THE ENROLLMENT IN 23, 24, AND THE PERCENT GROWTH IN SPECIAL EDUCATION, IN DYSLEXIA, IN EMERGENT BILINGUAL AND ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE STUDENTS AND THEN BUT PERHAPS MORE DISTINCTLY THE ELEMENTARY ENROLLMENT WAS HAS ONLY CHANGED ABOUT 1%.

NOW THAT'S FROM 1718 TO NOW.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME UPS AND DOWNS IN THAT TOO.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE ACTUAL STAFFING THAT'S BEEN ADDED THIS IS A COMPARISON OF OCTOBER SNAPSHOT DATA.

AND SO IT INCLUDES POSITIONS THAT WERE FILLED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

AND THERE WAS A NUMBER OF POSITIONS ADDED AT CANYON RANCH, BUT THERE WERE 104 ELEMENTARY TEACHING POSITIONS ADDED. WHILE NOW THERE'S ONLY BEEN 1.2% INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT.

SO WE'RE AT A SITUATION NOW WHERE THERE ARE 100 OR MORE TEACHING POSITIONS.

REMEMBER, THAT INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST YOUR FIRST GRADE OR YOUR SECOND GRADE TEACHER, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER ANCILLARY POSITIONS THAT ARE ALSO CONSIDERED TEACHERS.

AND WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 65 ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY STUDENTS.

SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ELEMENTARY TEACHING STAFF.

WHICH I BELIEVE GOES BACK TO.

THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS BEING HAD EARLIER ABOUT ELEMENTARY EFFICIENCY.

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BUT IF YOU'VE DISCUSSED THIS TO.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR ANYBODY AND GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY NEED TO SAY.

THE PRESIDENT PROGRAMS OUR FACILITIES.

IT'S VERY HARD DECISIONS.

BUT WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING FACILITIES WITH NO TEACHERS? FOR MEDIOCRE PROGRAMS, A MEDIOCRE PROGRAM.

SO JUST TO RECAP BEFORE WE GO TO YOUR ENDING PIECES AND I'LL START WITH THE MOST RECENT WORK OUR WAY BACKWARDS.

SO CAMPUS CAPACITIES, WE OBVIOUSLY RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S SOME INEFFICIENCIES AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL SPECIFICALLY.

AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN ACTION TEAM THAT'S MOVING TO IMPLEMENTATION A CHANCE TO DO THEIR PROCESS.

AS WE LOOK AT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND SOME POSSIBILITIES THERE NO END, NO END RESULT ON THAT YET AS FAR AS WHAT THAT MIGHT BE.

BUT JUST LETTING CHRIS, ANGELA, EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S A PART OF THAT WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE OTHER ONE WAS.

OPEN ENROLLMENT. I MAY JUMP OFF A BIT.

OPEN ENROLLMENT. WE'RE STANDING STEADY WITH JUST SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS WITH HACKBERRY CREEK.

AND, OH, PROMOTING AND MARKETING MORE.

PROMOTING MORE WITH STAFF.

YES. AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE OTHER.

BUT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT WE FOCUS ON.

SOME OF THESE ASK OF THE BOARD WERE MORE JUST WHAT ARE THE DISCRETIONARY COSTS AND SO FORTH.

SO THERE WASN'T REALLY A QUESTION THERE PRE K.

WAS JUST UPDATES ON WHERE WE ARE.

OKAY. I GOT LOST ON MY QUESTIONS.

DIANA AND THE VADER.

OH, VADER. YEAH, THAT WE WOULD START THAT EFFICIENCY AUDIT ALONG WITH THE SURVEY.

AND THEN THE PROGRAMS, GETTING THE PROGRAMS, GETTING THE COST OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH EXPANDING AND COMBINING.

AND I THINK WE, AGAIN, FOR TRANSPARENCY WOULD NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR.

IT'S BEEN SAID A LOT IN THIS ROOM, BUT AS A SURVEY OR WHATEVER NEXT STEPS COME OUT, IT'S NOT A VADER.

IT'S CALLED IF IT PASSES, THEN THAT MEANS NOTHING ELSE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

NO, IT MEANS THERE COULD STILL BE OTHER THINGS TOO.

MAYBE MULTIPLE THINGS NOW THAT COULD AFFECT VOTER TURNOUT NEGATIVELY OR POSITIVELY.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

AND ONE MORE TIME THE PLEA TO WE NEED PEOPLE INVOLVED.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SIT AROUND A TABLE.

WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOSE THEIR MINDS JUST YET.

BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE SAY IT AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE BUDGET COMMUNITY FORUMS AND SMALL GROUPS.

FIRST, TWO WORDS OF OUR MISSION STATEMENTS RIGHT THERE ON THE BOARD.

IT'S WORKING TOGETHER.

THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL, US TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER WHEN WE BECOME ADVERSARIES.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP.

AND I THINK THAT'S JUST WHAT THE STATE WANTS.

THE STATE WANTS US TO HAVE OUR HEAD DOWN, FIGHTING AMONGST EACH OTHER WHILE THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO IN AUSTIN.

AND THEN WE LOOK UP AND WE WONDER WHAT HAPPENED.

AND SO TO YOUR POINT, JODI, ABOUT IF A DISTRICT HAS A FACILITY TO SELL THAT HAS TO GO TO THE CHARTERS FIRST, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

I HAVE AN ABSOLUTELY FLABBERGASTED.

THAT IS INSANE.

LIKE WE HAVE TO GO TO CLOSED SESSION TO NEGOTIATE FOR LAND, LIKE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO TIP YOUR HAND TO SOMEONE.

AND YET LEGISLATIVELY, THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER THEM THE FIRST.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE PLAYING A BASKETBALL GAME.

YOU SPOTTED THEM 20 POINTS, YOU'RE BLINDFOLDED AND YOU GOT TO PLAY ON ONE LEG, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE RIDING A DONKEY.

YES. YEAH. AND IT'S JUST IT'S LIKE THEY COMPLETELY STACK THE CARDS IN THE HOUSE AGAINST YOU AND THEN TRY TO MAKE YOU COMPETE.

IT JUST MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

THESE ARE NOT THE SAME FOR SURE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER JUST HELPS TO SUPPORT SOME OF THESE THOUGHTS THAT WE HAVE, BUT ALSO HELPS US WITH OUR WORK AS WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. YEAH, I WONDER I HAD AS WE WRAP UP IS NUMBER ONE, WE HAD I HAD ASKED ABOUT WHAT'S THE COST AT THE HIGH SCHOOL OF GOING TO A SEVEN.

YOU KNOW THAT REMEMBER THAT SCHEDULING 8 TO 7 AND WHAT THE COST SAVINGS WOULD BE WITH THAT NUMBER TWO, I WONDER IF THERE'S ANYTHING WITH THE COUPLE.

THE CITY OF COPPELL, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR BUDGET AND WHERE AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THE SROS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD TO REDUCE.

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THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR BUDGET PROCESS, TOO.

SO IS THERE A WAY TO CONNECT WITH THE CITY OF COPPELL IN PARTICULAR, AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY AVENUES THAT WE COULD SHARE, LIKE WE DID WITH THE SROS, IF THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITY TO TO SHARE THAT.

AND THEY'RE SHARING WITH US NOW.

IT'S A SPLIT COST.

AND I KNOW THAT ALSO, WHEN WE HAD OUR IRVING CITY COUNCIL JOINT MEETING, TOO, THAT'S A 100% COST ON US.

BUT THERE WAS THAT OFFER, TOO.

I KNOW THAT'S JUST ONE PERSON.

IT'S WASN'T EVEN A COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUT YEAH. SO WHAT ARE THE AVENUES? BECAUSE THE CITY OF COPPELL USED TO COVER ALL OF CROSSING GUARDS AND ALL OF SROS.

YES, BUT THAT'S WHEN THEY THAT ALL THAT DESTINATION TAX YOU KNOW, PIECE WAS NOT A BIG ISSUE.

AND THEY HAD SOME DISCRETIONARY FUNDS THAT'S NO LONGER THE SALES TAX.

YEAH. IT WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO THEM.

SO I JUST I WONDER I WONDER FOR ME.

AND THEN THE THIRD I WOULD LIKE TO EXAMINE FEES AND WHAT KIND OF ADDITIONAL WHAT WHAT THE APPETITE IS FOR FOR STAFF TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE FEES THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST AND WHAT KIND OF REVENUE THAT MIGHT GENERATE.

THOSE ARE MY THREE THAT KEEP COMING UP.

OTHER THOUGHTS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, DIANA, THAT YOU NEED? THAT'S. YOU GOT THROUGH SO MUCH CONTENT IN MY HEAD.

I MEAN, I HAVE A MASSIVE HEADACHE, BUT I ALSO AM LIKE, I REALLY, REALLY LIKED THE WAY THIS WAS ORGANIZED.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I AGREE.

MY ONLY $0.02 IS I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I DON'T DO WELL SITTING FOR HOURS AT A TIME.

THAT'S JUST ME. I HAVE A BAD BACK.

THAT'S WHY I GET UP ALL THE TIME.

WE STARTED AT 530 AND IT'S 916.

IT'S JUST ME. I KNOW EVERYBODY ELSE MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT FEELING ABOUT STAYING PAST 9:00, BUT JUST I DON'T THINK I'M AT MY BEST LATER IN THE EVENING.

SO JUST SOME THINGS FOR US TO THINK ABOUT, BECAUSE WE DID BRING A LOT AND WE HAD TO.

BUT JUST AS WE BUILD THIS TOGETHER, LET'S KIND OF THINK THAT THROUGH TO WHAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS WHAT YOU ALL ARE ASKING, AND THEN I'LL JUST AGAIN, BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN WITH OUR TIME HERE.

MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A LOADED SCHEDULE, WE CAN START A LITTLE BIT EARLY.

THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME, BUT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD.

AND YOU KNOW, I CAN CATCH UP IF YOU GUYS OR WE DO THE PERSONNEL PART EARLIER IF WE HAVE TO ADD A PIECE THAT'S NOT THE WORKSHOP WORK.

AND WE I'VE TRIED NOT TO ADD THAT, BUT AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, IT JUST WAS HELPFUL TO HAVE ZANE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL TONIGHT.

AND THEN ALSO TO, AS WE HAVE MAKING MORE REQUESTS FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

AND THAT CAN ALSO ADD TIME DURING OPEN FORUM.

SO JUST SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR BUT I DON'T WANT US TO SOLVE IT NOW BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GO.

I'M BEING VERY HYPOCRITICAL ABOUT TALKING ABOUT WHY ARE WE STILL HERE AND TALKING ABOUT IT.

JUST SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

YOU HAVE A VERY VALID POINT.

AFTER CERTAIN TIME, NUMBER OF HOURS, WE ARE NOT AT OUR BEST.

AND, AND SO FOR ME, I'M OKAY STARTING EARLIER.

BUT IF THAT'S NOT COMFORTABLE, EVEN YOU GUYS ARE BUSY, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE MEETINGS.

BECAUSE ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO DO IS SUCH IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS.

I, I DON'T WANT TO RUSH THAT OR SHORT CIRCUIT THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERY THOUGHT WE HAVE, I WANT ALL ALL OF US, THE STAFF AND US, OUR THOUGHTS TO BE PRESENTED, SPOKEN OUT TO US.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SHORT CIRCUIT THE PROCESS.

AND FOR THAT, IF WE NEED TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS, MULTIPLE MEETINGS RATHER THAN ONE WORKSHOP A MONTH, HAVE TWO WORKSHOPS A MONTH.

WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH REDISTRICTING, WE HAD A LOT MORE WORKSHOPS A MONTH THAN WHAT WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW.

IT'S IN MANY WAYS THIS IS A MUCH BIGGER DECISION THAN THOSE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS BROUGHT US SUCH THOROUGH, DETAILED INFORMATION.

IT WAS VERY EASY TO GIVE YOU MY FEEDBACK AND THOUGHTS BECAUSE I HAD WHAT I NEEDED TO GIVE YOU GUYS MY INFORMED OPINION.

SO A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF WORK.

BUT THANK YOU. YEAH, I AGREE 100% ESPECIALLY THE BUDGET PART WAS PRESENTED.

SO LIKE BROKEN DOWN AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

SECOND. SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION AND SECOND.

BY TRUSTEE NICOLE BENTLEY.

SECONDED BY TRUSTEE MINNIE SETHI TO ADJOURN ANY DISCUSSION.

HEARING? NONE WILL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

919.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.