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>> NEXT HERE.

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>> THE TIME IS 5:30.

I'M GOING TO CALL A WORKSHOP FOR THE APART OF TRUSTEES OF THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE SESSION.

FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS TO ESTABLISH A FORUM FOR MY RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT TRUSTEE RONA RAVAL, TRUSTEE MINI SETHI.

TRUSTEE NICOLE BENTLEY, TRUSTEE JOBY MATT AND SELF, DAVID CABINET, SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

BELIEVE WE HAD NO ONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR OPEN FORUM TONIGHT, SO WE'LL JUST GO RIGHT INTO OUR AGENDA.

[IV.A.I. Debt Defeasance (SPG1) (FOS)]

>> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. GO YOU.

THANK G FOR BEING HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD OF AGAIN.

WE DO HAVE ONE BOARD MEMBER THAT MIGHT BE JOINING US LATER AND ONE THAT IS OUT.

TONIGHT, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL THINGS ON THE AGENDA.

WE WILL PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF WITH OUR BUDGET PLANNING.

THIS IS OUR TYPICAL MID SUMMER CHECK IN WITH THE BUDGET.

PLANTING WORK, SO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, SARKAR WILL UPDATE US ON WHERE WE ARE WITH JUST OUR TYPICAL BUDGET PLANTING, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC THINGS RELATED TO OUR LONG TERM, WE'LL HAVE BOTH BUT SHE AND MISS BROWN AND MISS EICHEL, WILL ALL JUMP IN ON THAT RELATED TO AN ATTENDANCE CAMPAIGN THAT WE ARE TICKING OFF, AND THEN ALSO SOME UPDATES ON PIT ENROLLMENT, AND THEN WE NEED YOU ALL TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEBT, WHICH WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAST MONDAY, AND THE BADER, THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE ELECTION, AND SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THE BUDGET WORK AND THEN SEPARATELY OUR HOUSE BILL THREE GOALS DISCUSSION, WHICH BOARD MEMBERS, I KNOW, HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH STAFF, AND DOCTOR BROOKS AND HER TEAM ARE DOING SOME PRELIMINARY WORK AS WELL.

SOME OF THAT REALLY WON'T KICK IN UNTIL WE GET OFFICIAL STAR RESULTS IN AUGUST, BUT THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU ALL NEED TO DO RELATED TO HOUSE BILL 3, WHICH WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT.

THAT WAS A GENERAL OVERVIEW [LAUGHTER]

>> INTO THE DEBT OF DEFEASANCE.

SO THE DISTRICT ANTICIPATES THAT THE BUDGET OF THE DEBT SERVICE FUND WILL BE BETWEEN 13-14 MILLION AT THE END OF THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

WE NEED TO MANAGE THIS FUND SIMILARLY TO MANAGING THE BOND FUNDS TO AVOID ANY YIELD RESTRICTIONS ON THE BALANCE, SO WE'RE NOT OWING EXCESS INTEREST EARNINGS BACK TO THE IRS BECAUSE INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST.

THE FUND BALANCE HAS GROWN DUE TO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, A HOLD HARMLESS FUNDING THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE THIS YEAR AFTER THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, AND THAT IS TO PROVIDE DISTRICTS SOME FUNDING FROM THE STATE TO MAKE UP FOR ANY LOSSES DUE TO THE $100,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BEING PUT IN PLACE, AND THEN ALSO THOSE OF HIGHER INTEREST RATES.

SO THAT DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE HAS JUST BEEN GROWING A LITTLE BIT EVERY YEAR, AND IT WAS ABOUT 9 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR TO FISCAL YEAR 18, THROUGH TO ABOUT 11 FISCAL YEAR 21 AND IS NOW UP TO 13, SO WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS REALLY TO HELP OUR TAXPAYERS AND HELP KEEP THAT TAX RATE DOWN BY REDUCING OVERALL DEBT.

IN ORDER TO MANAGE THE INTEREST IN SEEKING TAX RATES, WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER DEFUSING SOME DEBT IN AUGUST, AND WE WOULD LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE 2025-2028 MATURITIES, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE REALLY NOT VERY MUCH FLEXIBILITY TO ADD TO THOSE, OTHERWISE, THE TAX RATE WOULD GET MUCH HIGHER IN THOSE YEARS, SO IT WOULD HELP US TO REDUCE THE DEBT OWED IN THOSE YEARS TO HELP US MANAGE THE TAX RATE.

AS WE THINK ABOUT, ISSUING BONDS IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2025 FOR OUR NEXT BOND PROJECTS, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE DEFEASANCE DONE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AND THEN LOOK AGAIN, AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE DOING THAT TO SEE IF THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL DEBT THAT WE CAN PAY OFF AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO THE SCENARIO THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IN AUGUST, AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE TWO TO $3,000,000 WORTH OF EXCESS FUNDS TO DEFEASE SOME DEBT.

IT WOULD HELP US WITH OUR OVERALL DEBT.

WE'D BE REDUCING PRINCIPAL, BUT ALSO SAVING THE INTEREST ON THAT.

THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I COULD ANSWER THOSE.

>> YES MR. FAR OR LEMAN.

YEAH. AT ONE POINT, WE ARE TAKING DEBT BY SELLING BONDS, AND THEN WE HAVE EXTRA STASH TO PAY UP THE DEBT.

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WHY PAY TWO TRANSACTIONS? WHY NOT JUST TAKE OF LESS DEBT SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT PRINCIPAL AMOUNT.

>> THE DEBT IS DRIVEN BY THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THE BONDS THAT WE SELL, SO WE NEED THE BOND FUNDS, THE MONEY THAT WE GET FROM SELLING THOSE BONDS TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

THAT'S ONE SET OF FUNDS.

THEN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND PAYS THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THAT.

IT'S REALLY KIND OF LIKE PAYING YOUR MORTGAGE OR PUTTING MONEY INTO ESCROW TO PAY YOUR MORTGAGE, YOU'RE PAYING YOUR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST OFF THAT.

YOU'RE NOT PAYING TO HAVE THE HOUSE BUILT FOR 20 YEARS.

YOU'RE PAYING THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THAT LOAN.

>> NO I MEAN, YOU SAY 45.

THEN YOU TAKE FOR 45.

WHY ARE YOU TAKE LESS OF THAT?

>> EXCEPT THE FACT THAT WE NEED THE CASH, WE WILL NEED THE CASH FROM THE BONDS THAT ARE SOLD TO PAY FOR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP.

SO WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS TO REALLY IT'S THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST THAT WE'RE PAYING.

IT'S THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.

IF WE CAN DRAW DOWN THE PRINCIPLE, THEN WE WILL BE OUR TAX RATE WON'T HAVE TO RISE AS MUCH AS WE SELL NEW DEBT.

AS WE SELL CASH OR BONDS.

>> GO TO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT.

CAN THIS MONEY BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVE USES FOR THESE FUNDS?

>> THE ALTERNATIVE REALLY THIS MONEY CANNOT BE USED FOR BOND PROJECTS.

WE CANNOT USE THIS MONEY TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTING BUILDINGS OR BUYING SCHOOL BUSES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THE MONEY IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS REALLY TO PAY FOR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST AND ANY DEBT THAT THE DISTRICT INCURS.

IT'S A FUND INSIDE A FUN INSIDE OF A BUCKET IS REALLY WHAT IT IS.

WHEN WE TALK BUCKETS.

YEAH. YES. RESTRICTED EVEN MORE THAN THE BUCKET IS.

>> THIS MONEY HAS TO BE USED TO PAY DOWN PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST CANNOT BE USED TO USE FOR CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS WHAT THE OTHER SO THERE ARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR HOME FUND WHERE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT, YOU CAN USE IT FOR WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

THAT'S RIGHT. THE DIFFERENCE I WANT YOU TO GET AT IS THE SEPARATE BUCKETS AND THE RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE BUCKETS, AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN CS'S BANK ACCOUNT DOESN'T MEAN ONE CAN OFFSET?

>> CORRECT. MR. HART.

SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER.

ARE THERE ANY CONS TO THIS OR ANY REASON WE WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THIS?

>> I DON'T SEE ANY REASONS WE WOULDN'T.

OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR HAS ADVISED US THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO ONE, USE SOME OF THE EXCESS FUNDS THAT ARE IN THERE THAT ARE JUST KIND OF BUILT UP, AND TWO, TO BRING DOWN OUR OVERALL DEBT, SAVING TAXPAYERS, THE INTEREST THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY AND GIVING US MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN WE ISSUE NEW DEBT TO BE ABLE TO STRUCTURE THAT DEBT SO THAT WE ARE MANAGING THE TAX RATE, AND THE TAX RATE DOESN'T SPIKE UP BECAUSE WE HAPPEN TO HAVE MORE DEBT IN, LET'S SAY, THOSE 2025, 26, 27, 28 FISCAL YEARS.

>> YEAH, I'M LIKE YOU. I MEAN THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY PART OF THE TAX RATE THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER, YOU KNOW MORE BEING ABLE TO GIVE MONEY BACK TO OUR TAXPAYER [INAUDIBLE].

>> CAN I ASK WHERE THE FROM MY OWN EDUCATION, RIGHT, THE DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE, WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM?

>> THAT IS FROM THE TAXES THAT ARE RAISED FROM THE INS TAX RATE.

OKAY. SO WE GET THAT THOSE FUNDS IN, AND THIS LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE JUST EARNED MORE INTEREST ON THE INVESTMENT OF THOSE FUNDS.

WE CAN UTILIZE THAT TO PAY DOWN THIS DEBT.

I LIKE HAVING OPTIONS, SO THANK YOU.

IS THERE A REASON NOT TO USE THE THREE MILLION DOLLARS? NOT IN MY OPINION. THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST OPTION FOR YOU.

>> THAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

>YES.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I AGREE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE AGAIN, AS MR. EVANS WAS SAYING, THIS IS ABOUT THE ONLY TIME THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE MUCH INPUT AND STAFF TO DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY WITH OUR TAXES IN THIS FORMAT, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING WHAT Y'ALL WOULD WANT US TO DO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 10 PEOPLE BEHIND YOU IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON OUR NEXT STEPS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

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THE RESOLUTION THAT WE TALK ABOUT LATER WOULD GIVE THE SUPERINTENDENT OR THE CFO THE AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DIFFS IN THAT DEBT IN AUGUST, AND THEN AGAIN, LOOKING IN FIRST QUARTER OF 2025.

>> THE REASON FOR AUGUST AND FIRST QUARTER IS THAT JUST WHEN THE DEBT IS COMING TO.

>> WE HAVE THE 2016 B SERIES IS CALLABLE FIRST.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING THAT NOW.

>> GOT IT.

>> IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO.

>> ONCE AGAIN, WHICH PARTICULAR DEBT? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOLD MULTIPLE DEBTS OVER THE TIME.

MULTIPLE BOND. WHICH PARTICULAR BOND WE WILL BE PAYING OFF?

>> YES. THAT WOULD BE THE 2016 B SERIES IS THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR AUGUST.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? THEN WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT THE 2024-25 BUDGET.

THIS IS OUR TYPICAL BUDGET PLANNING CALENDAR, AND YOU'LL SEE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THERE, JULY 25.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS ALREADY.

ON MONDAY, THE BOARD WAS PRESENTED WITH THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT RESULTS THAT THE AUDITORS PUT TOGETHER, AND TODAY IS ACTUALLY THE DAY THAT OUR CERTIFIED TAXABLE ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES ARE RELEASED, AND WE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT.

BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVE ONE MORE WORKSHOP, AUGUST 12, AND THEN AUGUST 19 WOULD BE THE DAY THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE ASKED TO ADOPT THE BUDGETS AND TAX RATE.

THESE ARE THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES, JUST AS A REMINDER.

THEN THIS IS THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE USED FOR THIS DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT 8% TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH, WHICH WOULD COMPRESS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE.

THE BUDGET, AS IT STANDS NOW, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE REVENUE SHOULD THE BOARD DECIDE TO CALL FOR A BADER.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE THOUGH IS WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE ENROLLMENT AND ADDED IN THE ADDITIONAL NEW OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS, SO THAT HAS INCREASED OUR FUNDING BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE STUDENTS, SO OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE ATTENDANCE FUNDING WILL GO UP.

THEN THE BUDGET NOW INCLUDES THAT 3% COST OF LIVING INCREASE, AND THE HEALTH CARE CONTRIBUTION FOR EMPLOYEES REMAINS THE SAME.

SO THESE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT YOU SAW THESE NUMBERS.

AGAIN, UPDATES TO OPEN ENROLLMENT, INCREASE OUR STATE FUNDING, AROUND $580,000, OTHER UPDATES TO TAX COLLECTIONS AND STATE FUNDING BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THOSE THINGS, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS TEMPLATE, WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL THINGS TO THE TEMPLATE, ONE BEING TAX COLLECTIONS AND UPDATING STATE FUNDING BASED UPON OUR ATTENDANCE NUMBERS, ANOTHER 3.8 MILLION DOLLAR THERE.

THE CITY OF OPAL GENEROUSLY HAS OFFERED TO FUND THE STUDENT RESOURCE OFFICER COSTS FOR SCHOOLS IN THE CITY OF COPPELL, SO WE HAVE REDUCED OUR BUDGET BY $560,000 IN THAT STANDPOINT.

WE HAVE MOVED FROM OUR GENERAL OPERATING FUND TO THE SAFE GRANT, ANOTHER $150,000 TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES.

THAT'S A ONE YEAR GRANT, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT THIS COMING YEAR, AND THEN IT WILL GO AWAY UNLESS THE STATE PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT.

WE HAVE ADDED A CAMPUS ATTENDANCE INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT WE'VE ADDED $100,000 IN THE BUDGET TO FUND THAT ATTENDANCE INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

WE'VE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.

EVEN JUST THINGS LIKE PROPERTY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE GOING UP.

WE FIND THAT OUT USUALLY IN JULY, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN ADDED HERE.

THEN AS YOU SEE, THE REVENUE WENT UP BY ABOUT THREE MILLION SO DID RECAPTURE.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE REALLY NETTING ANYTHING MORE.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF KEEPING OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES IN LINE.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE REDUCED POSITIONS THROUGH ATTRITION, A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE MILLION AND THAT COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR STAFF WAS A LITTLE OVER THREE MILLION.

I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT.

I'M SORRY. JUST THANK THE CITY OF COPPELL.

THEY HAD HISTORICALLY HELPED US WITH OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FOR OUR SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY OF COPPELL FOR YEARS, BUT THEN HAD PUT A PAUSE ON THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK FOR US.

IT'S A YEAR BY YEAR CONSIDERATION,

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BUT I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF COPPELL FOR HELPING US OUT ON THAT, AND I SECOND IT.

>> AGREED.

>> SHOO CITY AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FINANCIAL CHALLENGES, BUT WHATEVER EXTRA THEY GET BY THEIR ACTION, THEY SHOW THE SPORT TO SCHOOL DISTRICT.

REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANOTHER THING I NOTICED IS THAT, DISTRICT IS BEING APPROVAL WITH THE INCREASING RATE.

I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT NUMBER WAS TWO MILLION AND IT HAS GONE UP TO THREE MILLION WHICH WILL OFFSET THE 2 TWO INCREASE WHICH WAS 3%, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THANK YOU FOR BEING ECONOMICAL AND APPROVAL.

>> YEAH, AND THOSE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS.

IS THEY CONTINUE TO BE MADE, AND WE WON'T REALLY KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THOSE DECISIONS.

PROBABLY AFTER A SCHOOL YEAR IS WELL UNDERWAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT IS NOT IMPACTED, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE LESS PEOPLE WORKING ON THOSE GOALS, THERE'S NO WAY TO AVOID THAT.

WE KNOW WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO MORE WITH LESS, SO THAT 3% WAS A REAL IMPORTANT PIECE, SO THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE BOARD FOR THAT.

I JUST AGAIN, WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CITY OF COPPELLS SAFETY IN OUR TOWN, AS WELL AS OUR SCHOOLS AS, I KNOW ONE OF THEIR TOP PRIORITIES AS IT IS FOR US, AND THAT REALLY IS GOING TO BE A BIG HELP TO US.

BUT KNOW THAT THE REDUCTION STAFF, AGAIN, ALIGNS WITH Y'ALL'S FIRST PRIORITY AND OURS AS WELL, BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO SUSTAIN OVER TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW CHALLENGING IT'S GOING TO BE TO DO AS MUCH WITH THE FEWER STAFF MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE, BUT TRYING TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE, REALLY LOOKING AT EVERY POSITION, DOING OUR BEST TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE CUTTING AS FAR AWAY FROM THE CLASSROOM AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO IMPACT THE CLASSROOM.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TACKLE ALL THOSE CHALLENGES AS THEY COME TO US.

BUT I THANK THE STAFF FOR BEING IRRESPONSIBLE THERE.

OUR CAMPUS PRINCIPALS HAVE REALLY HELPED A LOT, TOO.

THOSE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE, AND NOBODY LIKES IT, BUT WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? I'M SORRY.

>> I WAS.

>> TWO QUESTIONS WERE ONE SAME THING YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SAID, I THINK.

HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THEIR GENEROSITY AND WILLING TO PICK THAT UP FOR US THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IT DOES TO YOUR POINT.

THAT SHOWS HOW COMMITTED THEY ARE TO SAFETY AND SECURITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS OUR SCHOOLS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE HAVE HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION FOR OUR CITIZENS.

MY QUESTION WAS THE FOOTNOTE OF THE PAYROLL REDUCTION OF 637,000, COULD YOU ADD SOME CONTEXT OF THEM?

>> SURE. WE HAD SOME POSITIONS THAT WERE FUNDED WITH ER FUNDS.

BY REDUCING THOSE POSITIONS THROUGH ATTRITION, WE'VE NOT ADDED THEM BACK TO THE GENERAL OPERATING FUND.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER POSITIONS LIKE THAT THAT WERE FUNDED WITH FEDERAL FUNDS.

>> I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER THE OTHER FUNDS, BUT YES. THANK YOU.

>> CHIME IN ON THE CITY OF COPPELL AS WELL.

I KNOW BECAUSE I THINK THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO COMMUNICATIONS AND OUR VARIETY OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WE'VE HAD A JOINT MEETING WITH THE CITY.

AS WITH THE CITY OF ERVING, WITH THE CITY OF COPPELL.

JUST THE FACT THAT THEY ARE AWARE AND ENGAGED TO KNOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE OPERATING IN TWO DIFFERENT SILOS.

WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

I THINK A HUGE PART OF THAT HAS BEEN THE COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH.

EVERYONE IS JUST KNOWING WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

BUT FOR THEM TO PROACTIVELY TAKE THAT STEP, AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SECOND THAT WHEN I HEARD THAT, IT WAS REALLY EXCITING.

I DO THINK RISING FIVE, LIFTS ALL SHIPS, AND WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, BUT I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT CONSTANT AND CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OUR CITIES AND THE DISTRICT.

>> AS A REMINDER THE FOUR SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF COPPELL, THE TWO THAT ARE HERE IN CITY OF DALLAS, AND THE TWO THAT ARE IN ERVING ARE FULLY COVERED BY COPPELLISD.

THAT IS A COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE.

WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE GRANT MONEY FROM THE STATE, 15,000 PER CAMPUS.

IT DOESN'T FULLY COVER THOSE POSITIONS, BUT THE REST OF IT IS COVERED BY CISD.

>> THIS IS JUST A QUICK LOOK AT THE BUDGET WITH REVENUES, EXPENDITURES, STILL LOOKING AT ABOUT $9.7 MILLION DEFICIT BUDGET.

>> THIS IS FOR THE UPCOMING, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. THE '24, '25 SCHOOL YEAR.

>> DO WE HAVE A MORE NARROW NUMBER FOR THE LAST YEAR DEFICIT?

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LAST TIME WE WERE TALKING IT WAS A BIGGER RANGE.

>> I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS TODAY, AND THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE TYPICALLY I BRING THOSE TO YOU IN AUGUST HERE, MID MONTH.

I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE FROM THE LAST ONE.

BUT THEY'RE IN ABOUT THAT SAME RANGE.

I BELIEVE WE WERE TALKING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 5 AND $8 MILLION DEFICIT.

WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT SAME RANGE.

>> I'M SEEING 4-9, 5-6, I'M SEE A BIG RANGE.

THAT'S OKAY. CAN COME NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

>> IT WILL. ON AUGUST 12, YOU'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER IDEA.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE BUDGET, AND NOW WE MOVE INTO REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING TO HELP OUR REVENUE.

ONE OF THOSE IS ATTENDANCE, AND WE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION AT OUR ADMINISTRATORS ACADEMY THIS WEEK.

JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT COSTS WHEN WE HAVE STUDENTS MISSING SCHOOL.

AS YOU KNOW, OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE IS MULTIPLIED BY THE BASIC ALLOTMENT AND THEN THE SPECIAL PROGRAM ALLOTMENTS TO DRIVE THE FUNDING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS.

SOME OF THE LESSONS WE'VE LEARNED THIS PAST YEAR IS THAT EARLY RELEASE DAYS HAVE LOWER ATTENDANCE THAN OTHER FRIDAYS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE BEFORE A BREAK.

WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO INCENT STUDENTS TO COME TO SCHOOL BEFORE BREAKS AND AFTER STAR TESTS.

WE ALWAYS KNOW THAT THE FIRST SIX WEEKS, AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE IS ALWAYS HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE YEAR.

WE SEE THAT DECLINE YEAR AFTER YEAR.

THIS IS A GRAPH OF EVERY SINGLE DAY OF ATTENDANCE LAST YEAR, AND THERE WAS ONE DAY WHERE THE DISTRICT'S AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE WAS 88%.

CAN YOU GUESS WHAT DAY THAT WAS?

>> ECLIPSE.

>> ECLIPSE, THAT'S RIGHT.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH FUNDING THE DISTRICT LOST ON THAT DAY?

>> WE WANT TO SEE THIS REVEAL NUMBER.

>> FIFTY-FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THAT'S ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT OF ONE AND A HALF PAIR PROFESSIONALS FOR THE YEAR IN ONE DAY.

>> IT IS HARD TO SEE BUT IMPORTANT TO SEE BECAUSE IN EVERY STUDENT COUNTS, WE WANT OUR KIDS IN SCHOOL, WE NEED OUR KIDS IN SCHOOL, THEY LEARN BETTER WHEN THEY'RE IN SCHOOL.

THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW THAT'S OUR FUNDING SOURCE.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THESE EVENTS DON'T HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

THAT DOES HELP US, THOUGH, AS WE DO PLAN WITH OUR MUNICIPALITIES, ANY EVENTS THAT ARE HAD DURING THE SCHOOL DAY THAT A MUNICIPALITY MIGHT SPONSOR COULD IMPACT OUR STUDENTS.

THERE WAS ALWAYS A ONGOING THING BACK IN THE DAY.

THAT FIRST MONDAY WAS A DAY THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF TEACHERS OUT.

IT'S A THING THAT HAVE AND THEN OPENING DAY FOR RANGERS, IF IT WAS DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, WE WOULD HAVE SOME STUDENTS AND STAFF MEMBERS OUT.

BUT IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR THIS INFORMATION TO BE SHARED, AND WHEN WE SHARED IT WITH OUR PRINCIPALS, IT WAS EYE OPENING TO THEM TOO, THAT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE IMPACT THAT ONE DAY CAN MAKE, IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

OUR CAMPUSES DID GREAT.

THEY HAD ALL FUN THINGS PLANNED AND REALLY, I KNOW YOU WERE THERE.

THE PINKERTON, ALL THE SCHOOLS, COLWOOD CREEK, EVERY SCHOOL DID SOMETHING FUN.

IT WASN'T LIKE WE WEREN'T DOING SOMETHING BUT IT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN OUR KIDS ARE MISSING SCHOOL.

>> [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] ANOTHER THING IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IS THAT OUR ATTENDANCE IS MUCH LOWER ON MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS THAN IT IS ON TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.

WHEN WE ANNUALIZE THAT FOR LAST YEAR, $275,000.

THAT'S 3.7 TEACHERS.

>> CAN OUR PTO SHARE THIS IN THEIR FIRST PTF NEWSLETTERS AT THE SCHOOL HERE?

>> WE ACTUALLY DID. ANGELA IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD TOOL KIT THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH ALL THE PRINCIPALS, AND THAT IS DIANA SID WAS PART OF OUR AMUSTRATIVE ACADEMY THIS WEEK.

WE HAD A LAUNCH LAST YEAR, A SOFT LAUNCH FOR THE LAST NINE WEEKS OF ATTENDANCE MATTERS.

ANGELA AND HER TEAM HAVE REALLY BEEFED THAT UP WITH SOME MORE.

BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND FROM PEOPLE IS IT WAS OPENING THEIR EYES TO THINGS OR LIKE, GIVE US MORE.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THIS IS, I WAS GOING TO SAY CLIFFS, BUT [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE CLIPS.

>> CLIPS OF WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY,

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BUT WE WANTED BOARD MEMBERS TO SEE SOME OF IT FIRST BECAUSE WE HAVE VERY EDUCATED SMART, PLUGGED IN PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

WHEN THEY KNOW THIS INFORMATION, IT JUST HELPS PEOPLE WITH MAKING SOME DECISIONS.

WE WANT PARENTS TO HAVE CHOICES, AND WE'D LOVE THAT PARENTS HAVE CHOICES WITH THEIR KIDS, BUT WE WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES SOME OF THOSE CHOICES MIGHT COME WITH A CONSEQUENCE AND JUST TO BE AWARE AS WE'RE MAKING SOME DECISIONS.

THAT'S ALSO WHY YOU SEE SOME OF OUR CALENDAR CHANGES THAT WE MADE FOR '24,'25, YOU HAD THAT ALREADY SHARED BY THE SEO IN THE PAST WITH SOME OF THE EARLY RELEASE DAYS.

YES, THE FUNDING PIECE, BUT IT WAS ALSO FEEDBACK FROM SAN HERES THAT IT WAS HARD TO GET THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL IF THEY WORK OUTSIDE OF THE HOME FULL TIME, SO THAT THEY JUST WEREN'T BRINGING THEM THOSE DAYS.

IT ALL IS CONNECTED.

MS. FRAN WILL SHARE MORE ABOUT THAT DURING HER TIME.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PROVIDING THE CAMPUSES WITH AN ATTENDANCE INCENTIVES SO THAT THE CAMPUSES ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON DRIVING STUDENT ATTENDANCE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS LOOKED AT THE DISTRICT'S ATTENDANCE, AND AS LONG AS THE DISTRICT'S ATTENDANCE IMPROVES, BY AT LEAST A QUARTER OF A PERCENT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND THE PROGRAM.

CAMPUSES THAT IMPROVE THEIR ATTENDANCE BY HALF OF A PERCENT EACH SIX WEEKS, THEY CAN QUALIFY EACH SIX WEEKS.

WE WILL THEN PROVIDE FUNDING TO THE CAMPUSES FOR THEM TO USE FOR THINGS LIKE PERHAPS A LUNCH FOR THEIR STAFF, OR NEEDS THEY HAVE TO INCREASE STUDENT ATTENDANCE SO THAT THEY HAVE SOME FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN GET BEHIND.

THEY CAN DRIVE SOME FUN WITH THEIR STAFF AND REALLY GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN IT.

ALSO, JANICE DEPHANY HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB OF CREATING THIS ATTENDANCE DASHBOARD FOR US.

THOSE LITTLE ICONS YOU SEE ON THERE ARE JUST SCREENSHOTS OF WHAT SHE'S DONE SO THAT CAMPUSES WILL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO TRACK WHAT THEIR DAILY ATTENDANCE IS.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR SIX WEEKS ATTENDANCE AND SEE THREE YEARS OF DATA, SO THEY CAN EVEN START LOOKING AT TRENDS AND SEE WHAT MIGHT BE UNIQUE TO THEIR CAMPUSES.

THIS IS JUST A BLOWN UP VERSION OF THE DISTRICT'S ONE YEAR OF ATTENDANCE, 2024.

THAT'S JUST WHAT THE ATTENDANCE LOOKED LIKE, YOU CAN SEE THE 88 PERCENTILE, IT STICKS OUT LIKE SORE THUMB, BUT THERE'S OTHER DAYS TOO.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAMPUSES WILL BE ABLE TO EXAMINE.

>> BUT WE WANTED TO SHARE THE DASHBOARD WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL OF YOUR DASHBOARD.

>> LAST YEAR WE LAUNCHED AN ATTENDANCE CAMPAIGN EARLY IN THE SCHOOL YEAR.

WE DID A 12-WEEK CAMPAIGN, STARTING THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE DID ANOTHER NINE-WEEK CAMPAIGN.

THIS YEAR, WE BUILT OUT A FULL YEAR CAMPAIGN, AND IT ACTUALLY LAUNCHED ON THE 23RD.

WE'VE STARTED THAT ALREADY.

IT INCLUDES SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR INFORMED NEWSLETTER, E MAILS AND CAMPUS COMMUNICATIONS, LETTERS AND GRAPHICS.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE BUILT A TOOL KIT NOT JUST FOR THE DISTRICT, BUT WE'VE BUILT IT FOR CAMPUSES.

WE PRE-CREATED A WHOLE YEARS WORTH OF GRAPHICS.

I WROTE THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS FOR THEM IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WROTE LETTERS THAT TEACHERS CAN SEND TO STUDENTS IF THEY'VE MISSED THREE DAYS, IF THEY MISSED FIVE DAYS AND IF THEY'VE MISSED 10 DAYS.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE DISTRICT ALREADY SENDS, THESE ARE MORE LIKE, WE REALLY MISS YOU.

YOU MATTER IN COPPELLISD.

THEY REALLY ALIGN TO THE STATION SCHOOL DISTRICT INTO WHO WE ARE CORE VALUES.

WE'VE WRITTEN THOSE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

THEN WE'VE PROVIDED KEY TALKING POINTS FOR THE PRINCIPAL, FOR THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, FOR THE RECEPTIONIST, FOR THE ATTENDANCE CLERK IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

REALLY TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE KEY PIECES, THE DATA PIECES, WE'VE WRITTEN THOSE IN SMALL CHUNKS, SO THEY CAN GIVE THOSE PIECES OF INFORMATION, AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT TALKING POINTS, REALLY COVERING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT.

I THINK IT'S A PRETTY ROBUST TOOL KIT THAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM, AND A COUPLE OF THE CAMPUSES HAVE ALREADY CREATED SOME OF THEIR OWN STUFF, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR STUFF AND ADD IT.

KEEP BUILDING THIS TOOL KIT AND GIVING ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES REALLY A GREAT RESOURCE THAT THEY CAN USE AS THEY'RE OWNING THIS AND THEY'RE COMPETING FOR THE INCENTIVE.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT LAUNCHING THIS AND ALL OF US DOING IT TOGETHER.

WE'RE CALLING THIS THE FIRST PART OF OUR CAMPAIGN IS CALLED START STRONG.

WE'RE GOING TO END THE YEAR WITH FINISH STRONG.

REALLY THE WHOLE THEME IS STRIKE FOR FIVE.

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WE KNOW THAT IF OUR STUDENTS ONLY MISS FIVE OR LESS DAYS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, IF WE CAN GET EVERY STUDENT TO DO THAT, ACTUALLY, IF WE CAN JUST GET 80% OF OUR KIDS TO DO THAT.

STRIKE FOR FIVE, THEN THAT IS ABOUT $1 MILLION.

WE JUST NEED TO GET SOME OF OUR STUDENTS TO STRIKE FOR FIVE.

SPECIFICALLY, WE NEED TO PUSH THAT AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, AND THEN WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE LOW AT TENANTS AT OUR PRE-K LEVEL, SO EDUCATING THOSE PARENTS ABOUT WHAT ATTENDANCE LOOKS LIKE AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.

THEN WE'RE CREATING AND HAVE CREATED A ONE STOP SHOP FOR OUR WEBSITE FOR ATTENDANCE.

IT'S ALREADY LAUNCHED.

IT'S THERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION FOR OUR PARENTS WITH THE GRAPHICS, WITH THE INFORMATION, WITH THE DATA YOU'VE JUST SEEN, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE MOVED THAT TO OUR HOME PAGE SO THAT PARENTS CAN EASILY CLICK AND FIND ANYTHING ABOUT ATTENDANCE.

IT USED TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON EACH CAMPUS IS HOW YOU TURNED IN YOUR NOTES AND YOU MISSED SCHOOL.

WE'VE BROUGHT CONSISTENCY.

DIANA'S TEAM HAS BROUGHT CONSISTENCY ON HOW YOU PROVIDE THOSE NOTES, AND YOU CAN PROVIDE THEM ELECTRONICALLY NOT THE LASER FISH.

THAT IS EASY TO DO ON THE DISTRICT'S HOME ON THE WEBSITE.

NOW, PARENTS CAN FIND IT, THEY CAN SUBMIT THAT, AND THAT WILL HELP US THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

REALLY BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER, PROVIDING OUR CAMPUSES WITH WHAT THEY NEED, AND THEN MAKING IT EASY FOR PARENTS AND HELPING TO EDUCATE OUR PARENTS.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS ATTENDANCE CAMPAIGN IS ALL ABOUT.

>> THE TRUANCY LAWS FOR K-312 ALSO APPLY TO 3K, OR IS IT A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES? IT'S THE SAME. THANK YOU.

LET'S SAY START SCHOOL. THAT'S WHEN THEY START.

>> DO WE SEE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME MENTAL EFFECTS AT OUR UPPER SECONDARY LEVEL, BUT KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING REALLY YEAR END EXAMS AND THAT THING, THAT PROCESS HAS CHANGED.

DO WE SEE A BIG DROP OFF WITH KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE EXAMS, YET STILL NEED TO COME TO SCHOOL YET OR GOING TO SPIN THAT LAST WEEK AT GRANDMA, GRANDPA'S? NOT SHOWING UP.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.

>> I CAN SHARE.

>> EXCUSE ME. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU CAN HELP ME OUT.

>> WE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT SOME MORE LIKE CULMINATING INTO BEER ACTIVITIES.

BUT THEN WE WERE FOUND BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR KIDS ARE TAKING SO MANY TESTS IN THE SPRING, WHETHER THE COURSE, IV, AP.

WE THOUGHT, WELL, FOR THE SECONDARY, LET'S MOVE AWAY FROM THAT.

BUT THEN WE WERE FINDING THAT WE WERE MISSING OUT ON A PIECE OF THAT.

DR. BROOKS AND HER TEAM MET WITH THE SECONDARY PRINCIPALS AND WE'RE BRINGING SOME OF THAT BACK BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE IT WAS DOING A LITTLE BIT OF OUR STUDENTS AT THE SERVICE, ESPECIALLY THOSE GOING ON TO THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL, JUST NOT HAVING TO SEND SOME OF THOSE EXAMS. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THAT.

>> MY APOLOGIES. I WAS HAVING A VISIT WITH DR. VALERIE FOR A FEW MINUTES.

>> NO PROBLEM.

>> YES. SEMESTER EXAMS, THAT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TOUCHING ON RIGHT NOW.

IN A MEETING WITH OUR CAMPUS PRINCIPALS, THE DECISION WAS MADE NO ELEMENTARY EXAMS AND PIECES WITHIN THERE AND NONE FOR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

IT WOULD JUST BE OUR 9TH-12TH GRADE LEARNERS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING EXEMPTIONS, AND SO THOSE WILL BE SENT OUT IN A COMMUNICATION JUST FOR PARENTS AS WELL AS FOR OUR FAMILIES AND LEARNERS TO KNOW AS WE START.

NOW, YOUR TEACHERS WILL BE REVIEWING THAT AS PART OF THEIR AUGUST PL WEEK.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO ABOUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING THOSE EXAMS, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR OUR LEARNERS.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS, AGAIN, AND PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY HAD GONE AWAY SEVERAL YEARS AGO IS YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PUNISH A CHILD WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT GETTING TO THE END OF THE YEAR, YOUR GRADES HAVE BEEN DOING WELL, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN EXAM THAT IS EITHER COVERING A WHOLE YEAR'S WORTH OF INFORMATION, BUT ALSO TO HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WITH IT, WE'RE BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON FOR THEM TO BE ASSESSED ON.

AS WELL AS WITH THE EXEMPTION PIECE THAT I THINK DR. HUNT WAS PROBABLY REFERRING TO.

THINKING ABOUT THAT ATTENDANCE INCENTIVE IS MAKING SURE TO, CAN WE PUT THAT AS A PART OF IT AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO GETTING OUR KIDS HERE FOR THE INSTRUCTION THAT IS NEEDED? AS A PART OF OUR REASSESSMENT PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, EXAMS WOULD NOT GO INTO THAT.

THEN ON OUR WEIGHTING CATEGORIES TOO, WE HAVE THAT LAID OUT WITHIN THE GRADING PIECE SO THAT IT WOULD IMPACT, OF COURSE, YOUR GRADE SOMEWHAT, BUT IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY LOWER YOUR GRADE TO A CERTAIN STANDARD IF YOU DID NOT DO AS WELL WITHIN THAT ON THE EXAM.

WE'LL HAVE A SEMESTER AND THEN THE END OF THE YEAR PIECE EXACTLY WITHIN THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE ATTENDANCE AND JUST SAY I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I THINK THAT ALSO REALLY DOES COMPLETELY ALIGN WITH OUR NEW MATTER.

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I KNOW THAT WHEN YOUR KID IS SICK FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS, AND IT HAPPENED MORE IN ELEMENTARY, JUST I THINK ORGANICALLY WHERE THE TEACHER EMAILS YOU AND SAYS, "HEY, IS HOGAN OKAY?" WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, THEY NOTICED THAT MY KID WAS NOT THERE AND ALSO THEY CARE.

I THINK THAT JUST TIES IN SO WELL.

IT MAKES SOMETHING OFFICIAL.

THAT IS A REALLY BEST PRACTICE FOR MAKING SOMEONE FEEL LIKE, OKAY, YOU SEE AND KNOW MY CHILD.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ATTENDANCE THAT I GET OFTEN.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE, SO JUST ANSWER THIS FOR ME.

AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, EVERYBODY ALWAYS KNOWS HAVING THEM ATTEND, THAT'S WHAT COUNTS.

[NOISE] WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AT THE SECONDARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL? IS THAT TRUE?

>> THEIR ATTENDANCE IS TAKEN IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PURPOSES.

ATTENDANCE FOR FUNDING IS TAKEN AT 10:00 AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, 10:15 AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND 10:45 AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

THAT REALLY IS WHEN THE FUNDING PIECE IS TAKEN.

THERE'S A 90% OF ALL STUDENTS ALSO HAVE TO ATTEND AND MEET THE 90% RULE.

THAT AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL IS TAKEN BY PERIOD BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ATTEND 90% OF THEIR CLASSES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE TWO FUNCTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND NOT IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANY PIECES TO THAT.

>> I WOULD JUST CLARIFY 90% OF EACH CLASS.

>> EACH CLASS.

>> YEAH.

>> YES. THAT'S WHY IF YOU HAVE AN ORTHODONTIST APPOINTMENT OR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, YOU TRY AND MOVE THEM AROUND AND NOT HAVE THEM ALWAYS BE FIRST PERIOD OR LAST.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THEM ALWAYS A 1:00 RIGHT [NOISE] TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THE 90% OF EACH CLASS.

>> THE 90% IS FOR ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY AS WELL.

>>CORRECT.

>> IT'S NOT JUST NECESSARILY CAPTURED IN THE SAME WAY WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE INSTRUCTIONAL MINUTES, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS FOR ALL LEARNERS.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION.

>> IF THEY COME AT 8:00 AND THEN THEY LEAVE AT 10:00 OR 10:15, THEY HAVE TO BE THERE AT THAT SNAPSHOT TIME AT THAT 10:00, 10:15.

THEN IF THEY'RE NOT THERE, THEY COME LATER, DOES THAT COUNT AS WELL? IF YOU SHOW UP, YOU COULD LEAVE AT 8:00, BUT THEN YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, YOU COME BACK AT 11:30 OR DO YOU HAVE TO BE THERE AT THAT TIME?

>> YOU NEED TO BE THERE AT 10:00, 10:15, OR 10:35.

IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED ABSENCE, SO THEY WOULD NOT COUNT FOR FUNDING, BUT FOR EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED.

YOU HAVE TO BE THERE ONE PART OF THE DAY, AT LEAST A PIECE OF THE DAY.

>> AGAIN, IF YOU'RE MAKING APPOINTMENTS THAT YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AROUND, THEN MAYBE THAT 10 O'CLOCK WINDOW IS NOT THE TIME NECESSARILY TO BE MAKING THAT 10:00-11:00 NUMBER.

>> THIS IS PART OF HOW WE ARE EDUCATING PARENTS.

THERE ARE A FEW REASONS THAT CAN BE EXCUSED FOR FUNDING.

IF THEY ARE ATTENDING A DOCTOR'S VISIT, AND THERE'S A DOCTOR'S NOTE, NOT THAT THEY'RE HOMESICK, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO A DOCTOR VISIT, AND THERE'S A DOCTOR'S NOTE AND THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT, AND THEY DO ATTEND SCHOOL ONE PART OF THE DAY, THEN THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED FOR FUNDING.

THAT'S ONE OF THEM. THERE ARE A CERTAIN SET OF EXCUSED ABSENCES.

THAT'S THE MOST COMMON ONE.

THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS.

IN THAT COMMUNICATION TO PARENTS, WE'RE GIVING THAT HERE ARE THE REASONS FOR FUNDING.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO FOR EXCUSED, UNEXCUSED. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MATTERS, ONE'S FOR FUNDING, ONE'S FOR THESE OTHER REASONS.

IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR PARENTS WITH OUR EDUCATION.

>> I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MS. BROWN, I HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS IS REALLY GREAT, AND I LOVE [NOISE] ALL THE IDEAS.

ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO REACH OUT TO THE STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL?

>> WE WERE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH KCBY, WITH SIDEKICK, WITH NEW TECH TO DO SOME KIND OF PSA, SO PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS TO DO SOME THINGS IN PARTICULAR.

WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITH THOSE CAMPUSES TO TALK TO THEIR OWN STUDENTS AND K A STUDENT-TO-STUDENT CAMPAIGN.

YES, WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT AS WELL, NOT JUST TALKING TO THE PARENTS, BUT ALSO TO THE STUDENTS BECAUSE THE STUDENTS HAVE A LOT OF ESPECIALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL SWAY AND IF THEY'RE ANY KIND OF [OVERLAPPING].

>> YES. WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT THERE IS A BUDGET PIECE BY DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE ATTENDANCE, I THINK IT'S REALLY AN EYE-OPENER FOR THEM. THANK YOU.

>> I'M EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOME UPDATES ABOUT WHERE WE SIT

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NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE OPEN ENROLLMENT PROGRAM FOR THE START OF SCHOOL.

THIS YEAR, WE SPLIT THAT PROCESS INTO TWO PIECES.

UP UNTIL PLANNING FOR THIS YEAR, ALL OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS, WHETHER YOU WERE APPLYING FOR THE FIRST TIME TO COME TO THE DISTRICT OR YOU HAD BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THERE WAS A WINDOW OF TIME WHERE YOU HAD TO REAPPLY.

BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUND THAT MOST OF OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS, ONCE THEY START IN COPPELL, THEY STAY IN COPPELL.

THEY'RE IN THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS.

THEY HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS ON THE CAMPUS.

THEY ARE A PART OF OUR FAMILY.

COPPELL ISD IS THEIR HOME, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO BACK UP AND STREAMLINE THEIR PROCESS TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

ONE, WE KNEW THEY WERE COMING BACK, AND, TWO, THEY KNEW WITH CONFIDENCE THAT THEY HAD A SPOT.

THEN WE HAD OUR WINDOW FOR NEW OPEN ENROLLMENT FAMILIES.

WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU AND WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS RIGHT NOW WE ANTICIPATE HAVING 243 OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS FOR' 24-'25.

THE REASON I SAY ANTICIPATED IS WE JUST CLOSED THE WINDOW AS WE ENDED LAST WEEK.

FOR NEW FAMILIES THAT HAD APPLIED, THEY RECEIVED INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT CAMPUSES THEIR STUDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND.

THEY'RE IN A ONE-WEEK WINDOW AND WHERE THEIR NEXT STEP IS TO ACTUALLY ENROLL ON THOSE CAMPUSES.

IF EVERYBODY THAT WAS GIVEN A SPOT ACCEPTS A SPOT, THEN WE WILL HAVE 243 OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS AS WE BEGIN THE YEAR.

OF THOSE TOTAL STUDENTS, 113 OF THOSE ARE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS.

RIGHT NOW, OVER THE COURSE OF PAST YEARS AND WHERE WE'VE PLACED STUDENTS FOR NEXT YEAR BASED ON WHERE THERE ARE OPEN SEATS, EIGHT OF OUR ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES DO HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS ON THEM.

CURRENTLY, PINKERTON DOES NOT, NOR DOES CANYON RANCH OR THE ELEMENTARY, BASED ON EITHER THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS, LIMITING OF SEATS, OR JUST WHAT THE ENROLLMENT IS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR DISTRICT.

ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE SECONDARY STUDENTS, SO SIXTH GRADE THROUGH 12TH GRADE, AND CURRENTLY, THEY ARE ATTENDING ALL OF OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS.

THE MAJORITY OF OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL ATTEND NORTH MIDDLE SCHOOL.

BUT WE'VE HAD SOME YEARS WHERE THE PLACEMENT FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS ON OTHER CAMPUSES.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THE PLACEMENT WAS WEST.

THEN AS STUDENTS COME IN AND THEY MIGHT QUALIFY FOR A SPECIAL PROGRAM UNDER THE INTERVENTION SERVICES UMBRELLA, SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE ONLY OFFERED ON SPECIFIC CAMPUSES, AND SO, OF COURSE, THOSE STUDENTS WOULD BE PLACED IN AN OPEN SEAT THERE.

JUST ROUGH MATH.

DIANA GETS YOU MUCH MORE PRECISE NUMBERS.

THE BASIC ALLOTMENT FUNDING IF ALL 243 OF THESE STUDENTS ACCEPT THEIR PLACES HERE WOULD BE A LITTLE UNDER $1.5 MILLION TO THE DISTRICT.

TO GET A LITTLE MORE DETAILED FOR YOU, WE DO HAVE 146 STUDENTS THAT ARE RETURNING THAT HAVE BEEN IN OPEN ENROLLMENT AT LEAST ONE YEAR.

THE BREAKDOWN THERE IS 63 ARE RETURNING ELEMENTARY AND 83 ARE RETURNING SECONDARY STUDENTS.

BUT AS WE CONTINUED OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT CAMPAIGN, AND YOU AS A BOARD ALLOWED US TO EXPAND THAT TO THE HACKBERRY CREEK AREA IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR DISTRICT, WE DO HAVE 97 STUDENTS THAT ARE NEW TO OPEN ENROLLMENT.

AGAIN, THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY IS WE'D HAVE 50 NEW ELEMENTARY STUDENTS IF THEY ALL ACCEPT AND 47 NEW SECONDARY STUDENTS.

IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE 97 STUDENTS, AND WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM.

IT BROKE DOWN ALMOST EVENLY IN THIRDS.

WHEN THE DISTRICT STARTED OPEN ENROLLMENT AND UP THROUGH THE YEAR WE JUST COMPLETED, YOU HAD TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF COPPELL IN AN AREA THAT WAS NOT ZONED TO COPPELL ISD.

OF OUR NEW STUDENTS FOR NEXT YEAR, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE 97 ARE COMING FROM THE CITY OF COPPELL AREAS THAT AREN'T ZONED TO US.

LAST YEAR, WE ADDED SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE MOSTLY LOUISVILLE ISD BUT TO THE NORTH OF US THAT BORDER OUR DISTRICT, AND ABOUT A THIRD OF THE 97 STUDENTS THAT HAVE APPLIED NEW ARE COMING FROM THAT AREA.

THEN ADDING HACKBERRY CREEK AND SOME SMALL STREETS AND SURROUNDING AREAS IN THAT PART OF TOWN, AGAIN, ANOTHER THIRD OF THE NEW STUDENTS ARE COMING FROM THAT AREA.

WE'RE SEEING FOR OURSELVES SOME OF THE TRENDS THAT WHEN WE'VE DONE RESEARCH ABOUT OPEN ENROLLMENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT AREAS THAT BORDER YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT ARE CONVENIENT FOR FAMILIES TO BE A PART OF THE DISTRICT AND HAVE INVOLVEMENT, NOT ONLY IN THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY BUT THE CITY AND THE LARGER COMMUNITY AS WELL, YOU SEE THAT SUCCESS.

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I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF THE NEW STUDENTS ARE ENTERING AT WHAT I CALL TRANSITION YEARS.

WE HAVE ABOUT 23 KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS THAT ARE ENTERING THROUGH THIS OPEN ENROLLMENT PROCESS.

THAT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THEIR SCHOOL CAREER TO GO THROUGH.

ANOTHER LARGE GROUP IS ENTERING AT THAT SIXTH-GRADE ENTRY POINT.

AGAIN, THEY FINISHED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND NOW THEY'RE ENTERING AT SIXTH GRADE.

THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE 12 OF THE SECONDARY STUDENTS THAT ARE NEW ARE NINTH-GRADE STUDENTS, AND SO, AGAIN, ENTERING AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR HIGH SCHOOL CAREER.

THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME, AND I THOUGHT MADE A LOT OF SENSE FROM FAMILIES MAKING DECISIONS.

AS A REMINDER, WE DO TREAT OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT AREAS JUST LIKE WE DO OUR OFFICIAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

IF FAMILIES MOVE IN NEW TO OPEN ENROLLMENT AREAS AFTER SCHOOL HAS STARTED AND THEY COME AND APPLY WITH US, WE ENROLL THEM AND FIND A PLACE FOR THEM JUST LIKE WE WOULD SOMEONE MOVING INTO ONE OF OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS AT ANY POINT IN THE YEAR.

THEN FOR FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN IN AN OPEN ENROLLMENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR WHATEVER REASON MAYBE DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE WINDOW THAT WE HAD THIS SUMMER, GOING INTO SECOND SEMESTER, WE OPEN THAT BACK UP AGAIN.

EVERY YEAR, WE USUALLY HAVE TWO OR THREE FAMILIES OR STUDENTS THAT JOIN US AT THE SEMESTER THROUGH THIS OPEN ENROLLMENT PROGRAM.

>> THIS IS GREAT [NOISE] $600,000 EXTRA TO OPEN ENROLLMENT.

TALK ABOUT FINDING EVERY SOURCE OF CHILDREN, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

>> WELL, THANK YOU. WE DID NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL TEACHING STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THESE STUDENTS.

THESE STUDENTS WERE PLACED IN OPEN SEATS AND CLASSROOMS WHERE TEACHERS WERE GOING TO SHOW UP AND KIDS WERE GOING TO BE.

IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, THERE ARE NOT ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR US AS A DISTRICT TO HAVE THESE STUDENTS.

>> WE DON'T PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION EITHER JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REMEMBER THAT.

>> THAT IS CORRECT, AND THAT IS ACCURATE.

>> IT WILL BE A HUGE MORE EFFICIENT USAGE OF OUR STAFF AND OUR RESOURCES.

>> CORRECT.

>> WELL, WE ALL KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE BUDGET PRIORITIES WAS TO LOOK FOR EFFICIENCIES AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

EVEN THOUGH THE ATTENDANCE MATTERS CAMPAIGN IS NOT GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM THE GET-GO, WE BELIEVE THAT THE EFFORTS WILL BRING THAT.

THIS OPTION OR THIS PROGRAM IS OPEN ENROLLMENT, AND IT'S OUR HIGHEST NUMBER THAT WE'VE EVER HAD.

THAT ALSO DOES INCLUDE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE BRINGING THEIR KIDS.

THERE COULD BE AN EMPLOYEE AT CANYON RANCH OR PINKERTON THAT MIGHT BE BRINGING THEIR KIDS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC JUST YET FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT MS.EICHEL SAID.

BUT I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE TEAM AND THE COMMUNITY REALLY GETTING BEHIND IT.

WE COULDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING BETTER, I THINK. I'M NOT SAYING SOME.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY I JUST APPRECIATE THE MEASURED APPROACH AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

DIANA, I THINK, AS YOU SAY WARNED, I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO SAY FROM THE BEGINNING, THAT FILLING EVERY SEAT DOESN'T SOLVE OUR PROBLEM.

WE GO BACKWARDS AT SOME POINT IN TERMS OF WE HAVE TO START HIRING MORE STAFF IF WE TAKE ON TOO MANY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MEASURED RESPONSE.

ONE QUESTION I GET MORE AND MORE FREQUENTLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS I THINK AS WE'VE TALKED MORE ABOUT OPEN ENROLLMENT IS, FOR OUR TAXPAYERS AND THE FUNDING WE'RE PAYING VERSUS WHAT WE'RE GETTING IN THE 6160, WHAT IS THAT DIFFERENCE IN TERMS INCLUDING RECAPTURE WHAT WE'RE PAYING AS TAXPAYERS VERSUS WHAT WE GET FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENTS?

>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT FUNDING IS BASED ON AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE, NOT ON HOW MANY TAX DOLLARS WE COLLECT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PAY TAX DOLLARS THAT COME TO THE DISTRICT THAT DON'T HAVE CHILDREN THAT ATTEND HERE.

THAT MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHOSE CHILDREN HAVE GRADUATED.

IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO THEIR PARENT IS AN EDUCATOR, AND THEY TAKE THEIR CHILD TO WORK WITH THEM, AND SO THEY'RE ATTENDING A DIFFERENT DISTRICT.

IT MIGHT BE A CHILD THAT GOES TO PRIVATE SCHOOL OR CHARTER SCHOOL OR THAT IS HOME-SCHOOLED.

ALL OF THOSE FOLKS ARE CONTRIBUTING.

THEY'RE PAYING TAXES, AND THEIR CHILDREN ARE NOT ATTENDING HERE.

THE OPEN ENROLLMENT STUDENT FAMILIES, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE PAYING TAXES TO THEIR HOME DISTRICT.

SO THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING THERE.

HOWEVER, THE FUNDING TRAVELS WITH THE CHILD.

[00:50:02]

IF THE STUDENT IS IN COPPELL ISD, COPPELL ISD IS GETTING FUNDING FOR THAT STUDENT.

I LOOK AT LAST YEAR '22-23, AND IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE STATE PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT TAX RELIEF, BUT THE M&O TAX COLLECTIONS WERE ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 11,400 PER STUDENT.

INS TAX COLLECTION IS ABOUT 2,700 PER STUDENT.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT $14,000 PER STUDENT IN TAXES COLLECTED.

IF WE TAKE OUT OF THAT RECAPTURE BECAUSE THE DISTRICT DOESN'T KEEP IT, THE NET REVENUE CAP PER STUDENT WAS ABOUT 10,400.

>> THE M&O REVENUE KEPT PER STUDENT WAS ABOUT 7,800 SO 10,400 FOR TOTAL TAXES, INCLUDING THE DEBT SERVICE, AND 7,800 FOR THE M&O PORTION.

IF WE LOOK AT IT FOR THIS PAST YEAR, 23/24, ABOUT $9,800 PER STUDENT IN M&O TAXES, 3,000 IN INS TAXES FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT 12,800 IN TAX REVENUE.

THEN IF WE BACK OUT THE RECAPTURE, WE HAVE ABOUT 8,100 PER STUDENT THAT WE KEEP SO WE CAN THEN SAY THAT THOSE STUDENTS ARE GENERATING ABOUT 8,100, WHEREAS WE'RE PAYING IN ABOUT 11,001 PER STUDENT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT BREAKDOWN.

I GET THE ARGUMENT, I THINK PEOPLE PAY A PREMIUM TO BE HERE SO THAT CONCERN OF, ARE WE DILUTING, THE BRAND, SO TO SPEAK? I THINK A CONCERN THAT'S OUT THERE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A FAN OF OPEN ENROLLMENT BECAUSE IT DOES GENERATE REVENUE, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT US TO SEE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WERE COMING IN AT THE EXPENSE OF THE BRAND, SO TO SPEAK.

THAT'S JUST BEEN MY CONCERN OF LATE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY MEASURED WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE, SO I REALLY COMMEND YOU FOR THAT TOO, AS WELL, SO THANK YOU.

>> KNEW WE HAD DEN CITY AND FIRST RESPONDER AS WELL.

IS THAT REFLECTED IN HERE?

>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

THE YEAR THAT WE JUST COMPLETED, WE HAD FOUR CITY EMPLOYEES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.

WE DID HAVE SEVERAL MEET AND GREETS AND INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS AGAIN THIS YEAR.

WE DID NOT HAVE ANY NEW CITY EMPLOYEES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PARTNER WITH THEIR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, AND SO ANYTIME THEY'RE HIRING, THAT IS A BENEFIT THAT IS OFFERED TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS SO MUCH LIKE INDIVIDUALS MOVING INTO OUR DISTRICT AT ANY POINT IF A CITY EMPLOYEE IS HIRED NEW AND WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS BENEFIT, THEN WE WOULD WE'VE GOT A PROCESS TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND GET THOSE KIDDOS IN OUR DISTRICT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS BOARD EXPECTATIONS REGARDING OUR LONG TERM BUDGET PLANNING.

WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS LIKE 711 AND PROGRAM EVALUATIONS THAT ARE COMING AFTER SCHOOL STARTS, BUT UP TO THIS POINT, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE, AGAIN, MEETING BOARD EXPECTATIONS AS FAR AS OUR LONG TERM PLANNING.

>> I'LL SAY WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WAS IT 9.1 MILLION I THINK DEFICIT ON THE CURRENT 97, SORRY, I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS.

LAST YEAR WAS 13, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER WE'RE DEFINITELY, I THINK, TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT WE'RE DOING IT AND IN A WAY, GO BACK TO OUR MEASURE WHAT WE'RE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT'S MEASURED SO THAT WE'RE NOT WEB SAWING, ESPECIALLY OUR KIDS AND STUDENTS AND PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE OFFERING BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOOD AT IN PART OF WE TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE CHILD AND OUR HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION WE'RE KNOWN FOR.

WE CAN DAMAGE THAT PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY BY JUST COMING IN AND WITH THE MACHETE AND CHOPPING AND CHOPPING AND CHOPPING INSTEAD OF BEING VERY MEASURED IN OUR APPROACH, HOW WE'RE ALSO IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS?

>> YEAH. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANKS.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE ASKED OF YOU WAS WHAT I THINK WE TOLD THE COMMUNITY WE WOULD DO IS LOOK

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AT THE EASY WAYS THAT WE COULD CUT EXPENSES AND WE'RE OFF THE TOP, WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE COULD DO, BUT THEN IN KEEPING WITH THAT, THE HARD WORK OF FIGURING OUT WHAT IS THAT WAY? WHAT IS THAT WAY THAT WE KNOW IF YOU LET TEACHERS GO THROUGH ATTRITION, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO PICK UP A WORK TO WORK STOP.

STILL GOT TO EDUCATE THE KIDS THANKS TO ALL THE EDUCATORS ALSO WHO HAVE PICKED UP A SLACK ON THAT OR ARE GOING TO PICK UP THE SLACK NEXT YEAR, I THINK THE APPROACH TO REVENUE GENERATING OPTIONS SO THAT THE THINGS WITHIN OUR CONTROL WE CAN BEAT OUR CHESTS ALL DAY ABOUT HOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

BUT WHAT IS WITHIN OUR CONTROL IS WHAT YOU CAN REALLY HAVE AND HAVE SOME OWNERSHIP OF AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB ABOUT THAT.

I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

TO ECHO WHAT DAVID WAS SAYING, WORK TO GET THAT DEFICIT DOWN TO WHERE IT IS, TO WHERE IT'S ATTAINABLE, BUT TO SEE IF WE CAN HIT THAT MARK BY DOING SOME OTHER THINGS.

THAT WAS THE GOAL OF THIS FIRST ROUND OF REVENUE GENERATION AND COST CUTTING. THANK YOU.

>> I THINK I WOULD TALK ABOUT THE MINDSET.

WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THE MINDSET'S INCREDIBLE.

I FEEL LIKE Y'ALL ARE CREATIVE, YOU THINK OUT OF THE BOX.

NO STONE IS LEFT UNTURNED, AND ALSO TO ECHO TRUSTEE CRAVINS IT'S DONE IN AN ATTENTIONAL AND MEASURED WAY SO TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, ARE WE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? YES. DO I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION? YES. FOR INSTANCE, I STILL WOULD LOVE OPEN ENROLLMENT, TO SEE SOME GRANDPARENT OR, OTHER THINGS THAT POP UP, I DON'T WANT US TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE DONE, KEEP HAVING THAT MENTALITY OF WHAT CAN WE DO.

VERY MUCH LIKE THE DEBT THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT TO US, I DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE THAT.

I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS SEARCHING WITH YOUR RADAR, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE RADAR IS ALWAYS GOING SO TO CONTINUE THAT IS DEFINITELY THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

>> WELL, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING TOO ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, SOME OF THESE CUTS IN REDUCTION ARE NOT TRULY SUSTAINABLE BEYOND AN ACADEMIC SCHOOL YEAR SO AS WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO DO REDUCTIONS AS FAR AWAY FROM THE CLASSROOM AS POSSIBLE.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE CONCERNS THAT IT WILL IMPACT OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN BUT WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL AFTER WE BEGIN THIS PROCESS SO THAT WOULD BE, AGAIN, MY CAUTIONARY WARNING, BUT JUST NOTE IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE OR NOT.

TO YOUR POINT, PLEASE, SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THEM, THEY'RE EVOLUTIONARY PROCESSES, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO EXPLORE REVENUE GENERATING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN JUST ONLY SQUEEZE SO MUCH OUT OF THAT, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO START LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS TOO.

>> I'LL ADVISE THIS TIME, I THINK IS WHAT IT DOES.

>> I AGREE, DR. HINMAN CUTTING EXPENDITURE BY REDUCING STUFF IS OKAY TO SOME POINT TO CREATE EFFICIENCIES, BUT BEYOND THAT, IT WILL AFFECT STRIDENT OUTCOMES.

I REMEMBER WHEN WE USED TO LOOK AT ESTIMATE FOR 25/26, WE WERE A YEAR AGO, LOOKING AT $14 MILLION PLUS DEFICIT.

BUT NOW WHEN WE ARE MAKING THAT BUDGET, IT IS CLOSE TO $10 MILLION, SO WE HAVE BETTER DEFICIENCIES.

BUT IT'S LIKE MOVING TITANIC, IT WILL TAKE TIME.

IT WILL TAKE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT EFFORTS.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE STILL SOLVING THE ROOT CAUSE OF REDUCING THE REVENUE.

WE STILL HAVE SOME HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE SO THIS EFFORT NEEDS TO CONTINUE, BUT CLEARLY WHATEVER EFFORTS HAVE GONE, THOSE RESULTS ARE SHOWN.

IT'S OUR BUDGET ESTIMATE.

YEAR AGO, WAS 14 MILLION HE SAID, NOW IT'S GOING TO 10 MILLION.

THAT'S IN GOOD SENSE RIGHT THERE, BUT IT STILL NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE.

>> YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK WE ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING BRINGING IN MORE REVENUE AT THE SAME TIME, REALLY WATCHING THE EXPENSES SO DEFINITELY, YES.

I ALSO SEE THE CONCERN THAT THE ATTRITION AND ALL THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO COMPROMISE, BEING THE DESTINATION DISTRICT OR THE HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION, WE HAVE TO EXPLORE AND SEE.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING JUST SO OPEN TO EXPLODING ALL THE IDEAS.

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DIANA, THANK YOU WHEN YOU PUT THOSE NUMBERS, IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.

THAT IS AN IDEA, BUT THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND GRAPHS, TO ME, IT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE SO THANK YOU.

>> I FEEL HAPPY ABOUT THE PROGRESS.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD WORK.

WE'VE HAD FULLY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS AMONG ALL OF US AROUND THE TABLE TO GET TO THIS POINT.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING A MULTI YEAR PROCESS, AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY A GREAT FIRST STEP.

I DO WORRY ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND, ARE WE GOING TO BREAK OUR PEOPLE? IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE RESULT ON RETENTION AND STUDENT OUTCOME SO I'D LOVE FOR US TO REVISIT THOSE TWO PIECES MID SCHOOL YEAR SO THAT WE DON'T GET THE WHOLE SCHOOL YEAR GET AWAY FROM US IF WE HAVE CUT TOO DEEP OR WE ARE DOING THINGS THAT WE'RE UNINTENTIONALLY, CAUSING SOME DAMAGE SO THAT'S ONE OF MY THOUGHTS.

I FEEL HAPPY, BUT IT FEELS A LITTLE TEMPERED AND IT BEGS FOR ME, LEE'S POINT, SO WHAT'S OUR NEXT CONVERSATION TO KEEP EVERYTHING MOVING FORWARD? IS OUR NEXT CONVERSATION CONSOLIDATING CAMPUSES, IS OUR NEXT CONVERSATION CHANGING SCHEDULES? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP TO KEEP THIS WORK MOVING FORWARD IN A MEANINGFUL WAY? I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE MOMENTUM AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL TIRED AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY REALLY TIRED, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE MOMENTUM.

I THINK WE'VE HIT A GOOD STEPPING STONE, THIS IS GREAT PROGRESS, AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT NEXT WOULD BE MY QUESTION AND I GUESS MAYBE THAT QUESTION IS FOR THE BOARD AS MUCH AS IT IS FOR STAFF.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK WHICH WAS DEVELOPED AND THERE'S A COMMITTEE WORKING ON IT.

THAT'S WHERE THE NEXT STEP, THE RUBRIC.

I'LL SAY ONCE MORE, THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR TRUSTEES WORK WILL BE THERE, AND I STILL WISH WE HAVE MORE BOARD MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS TO ANALYZE AND DISCUSS THAT.

BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS WITH SIT IN ONE WORKSHOP AND NEXT BOARD MEETING MAKE A DECISION.

>> WE'VE ADDED ONE.

>> ADDED ONE WORKSHOP.

THAT'S WHERE I THINK MOST OF US TRUSTEES EFFORT AND BRAINSTORM AND DISCUSSIONS WILL COME INTO PLAY.

>> I GUESS THEN THE QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS IS, HOW IS THAT PREP WORK COMING ALONG FOR [OVERLAPPING].

>> BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE WITH THAT.

ASKING WHAT WHAT ARE YOU ALL WANTING THAT TO LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE YES, WE'RE DOING OUR PRELIMINARY WORK, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE THINGS TOO.

BUT WHAT IS IT THAT THE BOARD IS WANTING US TO BRING IN OUR NEXT FEW MEETINGS, AND THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE, IS JUST IN A REVIEW OF THE TIMELINE THAT IS OUR TYPICAL [OVERLAPPING].

NO. YOU'RE RIGHT ON TRACK.

BECAUSE I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE DIANA MENTIONED IT EARLIER BUT AGAIN, AUGUST 19 IS THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, AT 5:30 IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY TO COME AND WEIGH IN ON THE BUDGET AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

>> SO THAT RUBRIC WHICH WAS CREATED WAS REALLY EXTENSIVE AND REALLY INSIGHTFUL.

WE ALL WERE VERY HAPPY WITH THE RUBRIC.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IF THE RUBRIC IS THAT EXTENSIVE, HOW EXTENSIVE WILL BE THE REPORT COMING OUT OF THAT RUBRIC? NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH ALL I HEARD WAS THERE WILL BE A LOT OF WORK PUT IN THERE.

YOU WILL GET A LOT OF DATA TO ANALYZE AND THAT LEADS TO EVERYONE'S OWN IMAGINATION, WHAT A LOT OF DATA WILL BE WHAT A LOT OF DATA TO ANALYZE MEANS I'M JUST USING MY CAUTION IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DATA DRIVEN APPROACH OF CHANGING SCHEDULES, CONSOLIDATING FACILITIES, THOSE BIG BIG DECISIONS WHICH AFFECT STUDENT OUTCOMES AND OUR COMMUNITIES PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS AND PRESCHOOLS AND REZONING COMES ALONG WITH IT.

JUST SO MANY STEPS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BECAUSE BIG DECISIONS.

WE'LL SPEND MONTHS DISCUSSING WHAT WE CALL SMALL STEPS.

THOSE WILL BE THE BIG STEPS, AND WE'RE SPENDING LESS THAN A MONTH TO DISCUSS THE BIGGEST STEPS, WHICH WILL HAVE YEARS LONG LASTING EFFECT ON OUR DESTINATION DISTRICT.

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WHILE WHAT YOU'RE CALLING BABY STEPS, THE SMALL STEPS AS JOBI PUT, LOW HANGING STEPS, YOU SPEND MONTHS, ALMOST A YEAR DISCUSSING THAT.

TO ME, IN MY MIND, BEING A DATA ANALYSIS KIND OF PERSON, DATA DRIVEN PERSON, FROM PERSPECTIVE, THAT JUST SEEMS, MAYBE IT'S ENOUGH.

MAYBE THE WAY IT WILL BE PRESENTED WILL BE SO EASY TO ABSORB THAT IN ONE WORKSHOP IN TWO WORKSHOPS, WE'LL WILL BE ABLE TO ABSORB EVERYTHING AND, GET WITH THE BOARD IN UNISON ON DIRECTION DISTRICT SHOULD GO IN AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SAME ZERO TO THAT IT'S A MAJORITY, WHEN I SAY UNISON IS NOT PERFECT.

>> I JUST SEEMED UP FOR IT.

>> WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? LET ME GO A LITTLE DEEPER ON THE QUESTION.

WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS WHEN WE GET THE REPORT FROM ADMINISTRATION, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE?

>> ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

>> ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, ARE YOU EXPECTING TO GET THE DATA, AND THEN WE GO OFF INTO A CORNER AND START?

>> NO.

>> ANALYZING IT OR ARE YOU EXPECTING TO GET A RECOMMENDATION OR A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DR. HUNT AND HIS TEAM?

>> WHAT I'M EXPECTING A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO COME AND A DEEP EXPLANATION WHY SET OF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE EXPLANATION OF THE PROCESS OF WHAT ALL WAS CONSIDERED.

JUST LIKE A SMALL EXAMPLE OF WHEN WE GET PRESENTED WITH CALENDAR? SOMETHING MUCH SMALLER AS COMPARED TO THESE DECISIONS.

WE WERE GIVEN ALL THE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES THAT WERE CONSIDERED, ALL THE POSSIBILITIES WHICH WERE NOT ADOPTED OR NOT COMING AS A RECOMMENDATION, AND FOR THESE REASONS.

I'M EXPECTING ALL THAT TO BE PART OF THE REPORT RECOMMENDATION, THINGS THAT WERE CONSIDERED DIDN'T MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION CORE REASONS.

THEN FOR US TO SIT DOWN ON, A, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? WE CAN THINK OF.

WELL, MAYBE WE SEVEN HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE OF HOW WE ANALYZE THE DATA, BUT WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.

MAYBE THEN THERE'S A MODIFICATION OF DIFFERENT VERSION THAT COMES OUT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF I HAVE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID MAJOR ZONING, THERE WAS A SET OF RECOMMENDATION.

IT CAME TO THE BOARD.

IT WENT THROUGH NEW IDEAS, THE NEW REZONING PLANS WERE MADE.

WE WENT THROUGH FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT EQUATIONS UNTIL THE BOARD CAME INTO WHERE EVERYBODY HAD TO SACRIFICE THEIR WEALTH AND COME TO SOME MUTUALLY AGREEABLE DECISION OUT SEVEN OF US TO MAKE A DECISION.

I THINK THAT WAS A VERY WELL PROCESS DONE IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE ALL DISCUSSED EVERY POSSIBILITY OVER HERE.

THAT TOOK MONTHS. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN OVER TO BERKSHIRE.

THAT WAS JUST REZONING.

IN THIS ALL WILL BE CONSTRAINED.

REZONING WILL BE VERY SMALL PART OF IT.

I KNOW IT WILL IF THE CONSOLIDATION HAPPENS.

IT'S A BIG EFFECT, MAY NOT HAPPEN.

WE MAY GET SAVINGS THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT OTHER WAYS, WHICH WILL COME PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR D HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST SO MANY DOMINOES THAT MIGHT FALL.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I DON'T WANT TO BE VERY RIGID ON THAT WITHIN THREE WEEKS, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

IF YOU HAVE TO BE TRUE TO THE PROCESS, CONSTRAIN HOW MUCH DATA WE MIGHT GET AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MIGHT GET, THERE MIGHT BE NEED FOR MORE THAN TWO MILLIONS.

MAYBE IT'S NOT. I'LL BE FINE EITHER WAY.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT THESE ARE BIG STEPS, AND IF WE HAVE TO REALLY GET INTO IT, IT MIGHT TAKE LONG.

>> I THINK WHAT MANICHE SAID THAT HE HELPS STAFF AND DR. HUNT AND HIS TEAM COME WITH, LIKE, I MEAN, FOR ME, THAT TRACKS.

LIKE, WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? WHY ARE THESE THE RECOMMENDATIONS? WHAT DID YOU ELIMINATE THE CALENDAR EXAMPLES A GREAT EXAMPLE? BECAUSE A MILLION DIFFERENT THINGS COME UP TO BE CONSIDERED? THERE'S GOOD REASONS WHY WE DON'T INCLUDE EVERY IDEA THAT COMES UP TO BE CONSIDERED.

I THINK FOR ME THAT AND THEN THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO WHAT MANICHE SAID IS WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION IS, WHAT WORK DO WE NEED TO DO TO IMPLEMENT THAT RECOMMENDATION.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE NEED A BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT PROCESS? DOES THAT MEAN WE NEED TO EVALUATE A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS?

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DOES IT LIKE WHAT WORK WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT ROUND OF WORK THAT EITHER THE BOARD OR STAFF WOULD NEED TO EMBARK UPON? I JUST WOULD WANT THAT TO BE NOT ONLY REALLY TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THAT WE'RE ALL ENTERING INTO THE DECISION EYES WIDE OPEN OF WHAT ELSE WE'RE SAYING WE'RE TAKING. THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, I WOULD ADD I THINK WE SAID RECOMMENDATION.

I WOULD LIKE MULTIPLE IF POSSIBLE WAS THE CALENDAR, WE HAVE THE THREE OPTIONS.

THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE AGAIN. LIKE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY, WELL, THESE ARE THE TOP THREE WAYS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS AND THIS IS HOW WE ADDRESS IT, AND THEN EVERYTHING TO BACK IT UP AFTERWARDS, RIGHT, LIKE THE SHOW YOUR WORK SENSE.

THIS IS WHY THIS WAS CHOSEN.

THIS IS WHAT THE PROS AND CONS ARE OF THIS OPTION VERSUS THAT OPTION.

THEN TO WHAT TRUSTEE BUNLEY WAS SAYING ABOUT, THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU PICK THIS OPTION.

THESE THINGS YOU WOULD DO.

>> STY MATTHEW, I THINK WHAT WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE IS INSTEAD OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A MENU OF ITEMS. FOR US TO MAKE.

LIKE, OKAY, IF WE DO THIS, THIS IS PROS AND CONS OF IT AND WHAT WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE IS DO THIS THIS AND THIS.

INSTEAD OF THAT, WE'D LIKE TO SEE YOU CAN DO THESE 20 THINGS.

OUR RECOMMENDATION A WOULD BE SET UP THESE EIGHT THINGS, SET UP THIS RECOMMENDATION, B IS SET OF THESE NINE THINGS.

BUT FOR US TO SEE, OKAY THERE ARE 20 THINGS TO CONSIDER.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE LIMITED BY JUST THOSE TWO OR THREE DECORATION THAT.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IS MORE OF A MENU LIST OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN CUT COST AND WHAT DOES AMOUNT TO AND WHAT OTHER DOMINO EFFECTS THAT COMES WITH CHOICE.

>> FEELING LIKE THE THREE LINE IS OPTIONS.

HOWEVER THAT LOOKS, WHETHER IT'S A MENU OR MULTIPLE RECOMMENDATIONS, OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VETTED AND PROVE, LIKE YOU SAID, SHOW YOUR WORK, AND THEN THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.

I MEAN, IF ALL THOSE THREE THINGS ARE IN THE MIX OPTIONS, THE WHY, HOW DID YOU GET THERE? THEN WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF VARIOUS CHOICES? I THINK WE ARE ALL SAYING I AM HEARING VERY SIMILAR THINGS.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, TRUSTEE.

SOPHIE, I HAVE A LITTLE WORRY ABOUT THE TIMELINE.

I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE TO THE BEGINNING, WE'VE CUT ALMOST $7 MILLION.

IF YOU TAKE THE 3% RAISE THAT WE GAVE.

THAT WAS AN AD.

THEN WE'VE CUT FOUR AND $7 MILLION, WOULD YOU ALL AGREE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M SEEING $10,000,000 SHOP.

>> WE GAVE A THREE MILLION.

WE INCORPORATED A $3,000,000.

WE ADDED SO WE TALK TO THAT.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EAT THAT.

>> THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THIS POINT, I THINK HAS BEEN VERY LARGE, DOES NOT NECESSARILY BEEN LOW FRONT HANGING FRUIT NECESSARILY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. NO. THAT'S MY GENERAL THOUGHTS.

I AGREE WITH YOU WITH THE TIMELINE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IF WE ARE FEELING CRUNCHED, WOULD YOU GUYS AGREE, WE CAN EVALUATE WHERE WE ARE? IF WE FEEL LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED AT A LITTLE MORE TIME.

IS THERE THE ROOM TO CHANGE, OR DO WE FEEL LIKE, NO, WE REALLY NEED TO STICK WITH THE DATES THAT WE HAVE?

>> I PERSONALLY THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE LISTENING AND ENGAGED AND ON BOARD KNOW WHAT'S COMING.

YET, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN BECAUSE THESE ARE BIG THINGS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE I KNOW WITH THE SCHEDULING, THAT'S ITS OWN COMMITTEE THAT'S GOING TO BE WORKING THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THAT'S ITS OWN SILO.

WE'LL BE WORKING ON LOOKING AT FACILITIES WITH THE RUBRIC THAT'S COMING ONLINE.

THEN WE'VE HAD THIS WORK.

IT DOES SEEM LIKE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING REZONING NECESSARILY IN SEPTEMBER.

I MEAN THAT'S PART OF THE IMPLICATIONS.

I THINK THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD SPOT.

THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN AND MAYBE THERE'S THERE'S NO IS ANYTHING IN THE TRANSPORTATION SPACE.

I STILL HAVE A LOT OF EYE WONDERS.

IS THERE ANY SAVINGS IN OUR TRANSPORTATION SPACE? MAYBE THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT THAT IS ONE THING THAT I STILL I WONDER ABOUT.

>> THAT IS COMING IN AUGUST.

THERE IS SOME.

WE ARE IN TRANSITION WITH OUR DURHAM DIRECTOR FOR LACK OF A PROJECT SITE DIRECTOR.

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I DON'T KNOW JAKE'S OFFICIAL TITLE, BUT TONY IS IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT NOW.

WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT REDUCTION OF SOME OF OUR ROUTES, THE SHUTTLES.

WE HAVE INCREASED THE PAY TO RIDE PROGRAM, AND SO THERE'LL BE SOME OF THAT THERE THAT WILL COME IN AUGUST.

>> THERE IS AND WE HAD ALREADY INCORPORATED SOME REDUCTION IN SHUTTLES, WHERE WE FOUND SOME WAYS TO BE MORE EFFICIENCY WITH MORE EFFICIENT WITH SCHEDULING.

BUT THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT IS, WE DO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF KIDS THAT RIDE THE BUS AND WE HAVE TO GET THEM TO SCHOOL.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TRANSPORTATION FOR WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND TRYING TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE AND SO I DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS UNLESS WE MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN HOW WE'RE UTILIZING TRANSPORTATION, WHICH HAS A LOT OF OTHER IMPLICATIONS FOR STUDENTS AND SCHEDULING AND ALL OF THAT.

>> WE'RE NOT IMMUNE TO THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE ECONOMY, WHETHER IT'S IN HIGHER GAS PRICES AND HIGHER WAGES FOR BUS DRIVERS, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO TAKE ON THOSE COSTS.

BUT IF THE RESULT OF SOME OF THIS WORK IS CONSOLIDATING SCHOOLS OR CHANGING PROGRAMS, THEN YES, TO DIANE'S POINT, THEN THAT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME TRANSPORTATION COSTS.

>> I'M WITH YOU. I THINK THAT THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN GET EVERYTHING DONE BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER LIKE WE TOLD THE COMMUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER.

WHILE I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE TO DELAY IT, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR NEEDING ANOTHER MONTH TO WORK THROUGH THINGS THAT THAT'S WHAT TO WORK THROUGH THINGS WITH FIDELITY AND DILIGENCE.

IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THEN I THINK WE HAVE THE LATITUDE TO DO THAT, AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD SUPPORT THAT VERSUS US MAKING A RUSHED DECISION.

I'M HOPING WE CAN DO WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO, AND I'M HOPING WE CAN ASK FOR GRACE IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME.

>> SAY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LATITUDE BECAUSE ONCE WE MAKE SOME OF THESE BIG DECISIONS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME NOT ONLY FOR OUR KIDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND OUR PARENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

STAFF IS GOING TO NEED A LOT OF TIME WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S CHANGES TO PERSONNEL, THAT THOSE ARE ADDRESSED, IF THERE'S CHANGES TO RESOURCES, THAT THOSE ARE ADDRESSED, IF WE ARE DOING ANY DIFFERENT ROUTE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

YOU ALL KNOW ON A REGULAR YEAR WITH JUST EVERYTHING GOING AS IT NORMALLY WOULD, WE START PLANNING FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR IN NOVEMBER.

I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY HOW EARLY WE START PLANNING TO NOT ONLY SECURE DATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT STAFFING RATIOS, LOOKING AT PROGRAMS, GETTING OUR TRAINING ALLOTTED.

IF YOU DON'T GET INTO SOME OF THAT STUFF EARLY, THEN YOU MISS YOUR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

MAYBE A LITTLE BIT.

>> I'LL ON MY WHOLE THOUGHT. MY WHOLE THOUGHT IS, LET'S SHOOT FOR SEPTEMBER 30.

IF WE CAN'T DO SEPTEMBER 30, I NICOLE BENTLEY PERSONALLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE US GO PAST THE END OF OCTOBER.

I DO NOT WANT US TO GO INTO THE HOLIDAYS, AT THE END OF THE SEMESTER, ANY OF THAT.

FOR ME PERSONALLY, IF WE HAVE TO PUSH, MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE COULD WRAP IT UP BY MID-OCTOBER AT THE END OF OCTOBER.

I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT US TO DRAG THIS INTO NOVEMBER. I WILL RESHARE.

A LITTLE, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT I MEANT.

>> I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.

IF YOU ALL DON'T TELL US THESE THINGS, THINK THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING WHAT YOU ARE WANTING US TO DO, AND WE NEED TO KNOW.

I KNOW WE'RE MISSING, MR. HILL TONIGHT, BUT IF WE DON'T HEAR THESE THINGS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU WITH SOMETHING, AND THESE ARE TOO BIG SOME THINGS TO BE BRING YOU FORWARD WITHOUT US BEING CLOSE TO BEING ON THE SAME.

>> I KNOW OUR SEPTEMBER IS ALREADY LOADED AND I WILL TELL YOU, PERSONALLY, I'M WILLING IF ONE MORE WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER GOT US TO THE SEPTEMBER DEADLINE, I'D BE WILLING FOR US TO FIGURE OUT A WORKSHOP EVEN IF IT'S NOT OUR NORMAL MONDAY NIGHT.

I KNOW IT'S A PACK MONTH, BUT IF THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US SITTING THE END OF SEPTEMBER OR NOT, I PERSONALLY WOULD SUPPORT US SEPTEMBER BEING REALLY CHALLENGING.

>> I THINK PART OF IT THOUGH IS, WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS OF THOSE WORKSHOPS? I MEAN, IF IT'S US JUST REPORTING OUT BECAUSE YES, TO LOOK AT THIS, IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME OF THESE THINGS FOR MONTHS, AND YES, IN A CERTAIN SENSE WE HAVE, BUT REALLY SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY, AND WE'RE JUST REPORTING IT BACK OUT.

SO AS FAR AS LIKE THE WORK OF IT, THE STAFF IS DONE A GREAT JOB.

THEY'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON THINGS, BUT IT WASN'T MONTHS IN THE MAKING OF THE ATTENDANCE.

WE HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.

WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

IT WAS KICKED OFF LAST YEAR ALREADY.

WHAT WE HAVE SPENT SOME TIME ON IS JUST WORKING ON THOSE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES TO STREAMLINE THAT.

BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THAT HAS REALLY BEEN MONTHS IN THE MAKING, EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.

BUT THAT WAS REALLY ALL STAFF.

THE BOARD WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT.

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IT'S WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING TO BE INVOLVED IN AND WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING STAFF MEMBERS TO COME WITH, WORK ALREADY DONE, OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU.

>> NO, I WOULD SAY, YOU AND I.

>> WELL, NO, GO AHEAD AND THOSE GOING ON.

>> WILL SHE GET THE SAME THING?

>> BECAUSE TO USE THAT CALENDAR ANALOGY AS AN EXAMPLE, WE SHOW YOU ALL THE WORK WE BRING IT TO YOU ALL.

BUT THERE IS DISCUSSION.

THERE'S ALWAYS DISCUSSIONS, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE, PULLED-UP ART AND ALL OF THAT.

I KNOW THAT THAT IS AN IMPORTANT AND SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED PROCESS.

IT'S NOT AS COMPLICATED AS SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS MIGHT BE.

BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT THE BOARD HAS DONE IS JUST TALK ABOUT IT AND AS KRISTEN SOME QUESTIONS AND EITHER VOTE FOR IT OR AGAINST IT.

THIS IS, AGAIN, WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

KNOWING WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO DO IN THESE WORKSHOPS WITH THIS INFORMATION?

>> YEAH. I THINK IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, THAT'S WHAT I THINK I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A MENU OF OPTIONS THAT WE CAN WEIGH IN.

I WAS PART OF THAT CALENDAR PROCESS AND GOT TO SEE LIKE, SHOW THE WORD I GOT TO SEE, WHAT WORK AND BRAINSTORMING WENT INTO THAT.

I WAS AT PEACE WITH, OKAY, WHY WE HAVE THESE THREE OPTIONS.

IT'S NOT WHAT IS GOOD OR NOT SO GOOD.

IT'S JUST LIKE THEY ALL CAME WITH THEIR OWN LITTLE PLUS AND MINUS.

THAT WAS A GREAT PROCESS.

WITH THIS PARTICULAR, LIKE, IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT CONSOLIDATING FACILITIES, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON A MUCH BIGGER SCALE, THE RUBRIC AND THE DISCUSSIONS AND WHATEVER OPTIONS WE GET.

BUT HE HAS DEFINITELY OPTIONS.

THEN AT THAT POINT, AGAIN, RE-EVALUATING FOR EDUCATING THE BOARD THAT, THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED.

WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT DOING THIS, THIS, THIS, AND WE ARE ALREADY DOING LIKE OUT OF THOSE LIST OF 10 THINGS, YOU ALL ARE ALREADY WORKING ON MAYBE FIVE.

WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE MIGHT HAVE DONE A LOT MORE COMPARED TO WHERE WE STARTED.

AGAIN, REEVALUATING THE NUMBERS THAT OKAY WHERE WE ARE NOW, AND THEN IF WE GO MOVE FORWARD OR CHOOSE OPTION A OR B, JUST RE-EVALUATING BUDGET-WISE AT THIS POINT.

>> YEAH, I WANT TO REVISIT.

THE REASON, AS I RECALL, WHEN WE SET UP THE TIMELINE TO BE AS IT WAS WAS ONE PLANNING PIECE ALSO.

ALSO, WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE RUBRIC, SET IT UP AND GET THE INFORMATION, DO A LOT OF DELIBERATION DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY IS GONE BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE, SEE WHAT THE RUBRIC SAYS, AND THEN COMMENT ON IT BECAUSE IT IS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS THAT HELPS TO WE NEED COMMUNITY INPUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU LIKE, WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS, ARE YOU PRESENTING WHEN YOU SEE THE RUBRIC AS IN PUBLIC TO DO.

VENITIA AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WAS SAYING LIKE, OKAY, PERHAPS WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

I THINK WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE SEE THE DATA.

YOU SEE THE RUBRIC, LIKE YOUR MENU OF OPTIONS, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THESE ARE THE BUILDING BLOCKS, HERE'S THESE BLOCK OF SETS I BUILT BASED ON THE INSTRUCTIONS.

BUT THEN IF YOU WANT TO KNOW CHANGE THEM UP AND MOVE A PIECE OVER HERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT I THINK THAT WE WILL BE HAVING.

ONCE YOU HAVE THE RUBRIC, ONCE YOU HAVE THE OPTIONS, THEN WE EXAMINE, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THE OPTIONS WILL DO.

THIS IS WHAT WE CAN GET COMMUNITY IMPACT ON WHETHER YOU PREFER A, B, OR C, AND THEN WE LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE, AS THE OPTIONS, AND WITH THE BUILDING BLOCK AND SAY, COULD WE MOVE THIS PIECE, COULD WE MOVE THAT PIECE, AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.

THAT'S THE WORK THAT THOSE OTHER WORKSHOPS WILL HAVE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IN EACH OF THOSE.

AS WE'RE HAVING THOSE, WE WOULD SEE, WE'VE ALL SETTLED ON MAYBE THIS WILL LOOK GOOD, BUT WE NEED A COUPLE MORE DAYS TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S I THINK WHAT WE, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, HOW THE PROCESS WILL GO AFTER WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION AS THE CO GOES.

I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO STAY AS CLOSE TO THAT INITIAL TIMELINE AS WE CAN, ONLY FOR THE REASONS YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE EVEN IN MAY, AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, I WAS HEARING FROM TEACHERS AND PARENTS ABOUT ALREADY HAVING THE ANXIETY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE DON'T KNOW.

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THAT UNCERTAINTY IS PALPABLE, AND THAT HOLDS ON YOU A LITTLE BIT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS AND FIGURE IT OUT AND SET THE PATH FORWARD.

>> I THINK THE LONGER SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS ARE DELAYED, IT'S JUST MORE PAINFUL TO OUR STUDENTS, TO OUR PARENTS, TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR STAFF.

SOME OF THAT COULD BE INEVITABLE, WE DON'T KNOW.

PART OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, JOBBY, ABOUT THE SUMMER MONTHS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH OUR, NOT ONLY ATTENDANCE, BUT OUR MARKETING CAMPAIGNS.

WHAT IS OUR ENROLLMENT GOING TO BE? PRELIMINARY, SOME OF IT LOOKS GREAT, SOME OF IT DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD AS WE HAD HOPED.

THAT WILL ALSO BE A FACTOR THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE IN TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT IS OUR STUDENT POPULATION.

WE HAVE A GREAT DEMOGRAPHER THAT GIVES US PREDICTIONS, BUT THEY'RE JUST THAT.

THEY'RE ONLY PREDICTIONS UNTIL THE KIDS SHOW UP ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.

>> I WANT TO CHIME IN, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU AND I THINK YOU'RE READING MY NOTES ON THE SCHEDULE OF THESE.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A TIMELINE BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND ROLL OUR SLEEVES UP AND BE FOCUSED ON OUR WORK.

WHETHER WE HAVE TWO FIVE-HOUR MEETINGS OR WE REALIZE, TO YOUR POINT, ONCE WE GET THE INFORMATION, AND WE GET INTO IT, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME.

I'M PERSONALLY WILLING TO FIND TIME IN THE CALENDAR TO SCHEDULE AN EXTRA MEETING, IF WE NEED TO.

I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED, NICHOLE, TO WHAT YOU SAID TOO, DO WE PUSH PAST SEPTEMBER 30 IF WE NEED TO TAP THE BRAKES? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE PRUDENT THING FOR US TO DO RATHER THAN COME TO A RUSH DECISION.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS THAT TIMELINE THAT WE SET UP GENERALLY FOR THE FACT THAT IF WE JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO PUSH IT OFF AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DEADLINE ON IT.

WE STARTED THESE TALKS FOUR YEARS AGO AND WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING TO THE POINT OF GETTING INTO THE MEAT OF IT.

I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL COME, THIS IS WHAT OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE AND WE'RE GOING TO ROLL OUR SLEEVES UP AND WE'RE GOING TO DIG IN AND DO THE WORK.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID ON THE SCHEDULING PIECE.

FROM WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, I DON'T LIKE TO USE THE WORD MENU OPTIONS BECAUSE FOR ME, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE JUST THIS CARTE BLANCHE, HERE'S YOUR MENU, ORDER WHAT YOU WANT OFF THE MENU.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO KNOW WHAT THIS DOES, AND NOW WHAT THE CHESS PIECES ARE, WHERE THE DOMINOES ARE GOING TO FALL, WHAT STAFFING PIECES ARE.

THERE'S A LOT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES I THINK THAT WE CAN'T MEASURE JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA.

I THINK THE DATA IS GOING TO BE CLEAR ON SOME THINGS.

I THINK THE DATA WILL ELIMINATE THINGS RIGHT OFF THE BOARD, AND IT'S GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE IT NARROWS IT DOWN BY ITSELF.

BUT I AM, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANXIOUS, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT RESULT.

TO THE POINT OF OPTIONS, I'D LIKE TO SEE A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU GUYS IN WHAT YOUR VIEW IS.

THIS IS THE IDEAL SITUATION FROM WHAT THE DATA IS TELLING US.

A BETTER, BEST, AND A GOOD TYPE SCENARIO.

I'M THINKING OF JUST BOUGHT TIRES ON THE TRUCK, SO I'M THINKING OF WHAT DISCOUNT TIRE DOES ON THEIR WEBSITE.

[LAUGHTER] I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.

I GO BACK TO THOSE REZONING ALL THOSE YEARS AGO, BECAUSE YOU GUYS CAME TO US WITH THE SET AND WE PULLED IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AFTER WE STARTED HAVING DISCUSSIONS, AND I THINK THAT PROCESS DID WORK, BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU GUYS ARE THINKING AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT IN ORDER TO START THINKING FURTHER IF WE NEED TO DEVIATE FROM WHAT THE PLAN IS.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF WHEN WE SAY OPTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE, HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, HERE'S WHY IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, HERE ARE THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE CONSIDERED, THIS COULD BE A CLOSE SECOND OR THIS COULD BE ANOTHER OPTION, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT ROSE TO THE TOP AND FOR THOSE REASONS.

>> I'M THINKING PACKAGES. WHEN YOU SAY OPTIONS, TO ME IT'S LIKE, TELL ME WHAT YOU GUYS THINK IS THE IDEAL PACKAGE.

>> YES, PACKAGE IS THE BETTER WORD.

>> WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE CONSIDERED? I DON'T THINK, AS A BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED FOR THE REST OF THE MEETINGS OR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO PAST SEPTEMBER 9TH UNTIL WE SEE THE INFORMATION ON SEPTEMBER 9.

BUT TO ME, IT FEELS LIKE AS A GROUP, WE CAN DECIDE, NOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THE DATA,

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HOW MANY MORE MEETINGS DO WE THINK WE NEED? ARE WE WILLING TO STAY TILL 9:00 TONIGHT TO GET TO THIS BENCHMARK OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE? BUT I DO FEEL LIKE AS A GROUP, WE COULD LAY OUT WHAT WE THINK WE NEED AS A TIME ONCE WE SEE THE DATA ON THE NIGHT.

I THINK UNTIL THEN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, IF THAT'S OKAY, RIGHT QUICK.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT OPTIONS, AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE WOULD LAY THIS OUT.

NECESSARILY, I LIKE WHAT YOU HAD JUST SAID THERE, PRESIDENT CAVINESS, OF LIKE, OKAY, HERE COULD BE A BEST POSSIBLE OPTION.

WHEN I'M THINKING BEST POSSIBLE OPTION, I'M THINKING ABOUT DOLLARS, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT IMPACT, AND YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT GO INTO PLAY.

ONCE AGAIN, KEEPING OUR PROGRAMS AS A HIGH PRIORITY WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT POSSIBLE CONSOLIDATION WITHIN THINGS WITHIN THAT. THAT COULD BE AN OPTION.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT EITHER A POSSIBLE CONSOLIDATION OF ONE CAMPUS.

DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALSO OCCURRED WITHIN OUR MEETINGS TO SAY ABOUT TWO CAMPUSES.

WITHIN THOSE OPTIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT LAYERS WITHIN THAT? THIS WAS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE IF WE HAD TWO CAMPUSES WITHIN HERE.

THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WITH ONE CAMPUS.

I'M JUST, IN MY MIND, WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ALONG WITH NOT JUST THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WHY? BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT EFFICIENCIES ALL THE TIME.

>> RIGHT.

>> KEEPING IN VIEW THAT IF YOU'RE CALLING TWO CAMPUSES, THEN THAT MANY MORE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE AFFECTED. THAT'S A COUNT.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BEING PROVABLE WITH THAT AS MANY IN THE LONG RUN, THIS IS MORE SUSTAINABLE.

YES, IT'S GOING TO HURT FOR FIRST FEW YEARS, BUT 10 YEARS FROM TODAY, THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THE DISTRICT.

>> IF BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT OR SOMETHING WERE TO OCCUR BASED ON THE SPECIFIC CLOSURES TO NOTE THOSE PIECES OR WHAT A PROGRAM CONSOLIDATION COULD LOOK LIKE.

SOME OF THOSE [OVERLAPPING].

>> IF YOU PICKED THE BEST PACKAGE.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD BE BOXED IN TO WE CAN ONLY DO ONE.

>> THAT TO ME IS JUST KNOWING WE'RE SITTING WITHIN.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OPTIONS, DON'T BE LIMITED, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

YOU GUYS HAVE FULL CARTE BLANCHE OF COMING UP WITH WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE US MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WHICH WE'RE ALL PREPARED TO DO.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT AGAIN, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE SPINNING OUR WHEELS, OR WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE, AS SOMETIMES TO WHAT MR. CAVINESS WAS SAYING ABOUT WORKING ON THIS FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ONE MORE YEAR.

WE NEED TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF GREAT CONVERSATIONS, AND YOU'RE GIVING US GREAT DIRECTION, SO WE'RE NOT SPINNING OUR WHEELS EITHER.

>> SORRY.

>> YOU GO.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, WHEN YOU MENTIONED WHAT'S THE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE THROUGH THE LENS OF WHAT WE SAID OUR PRIORITIES ARE.

>> SURE.

>> WE AREN'T SAYING LET'S MAKE IT FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND LET'S NOT RETAIN PEOPLE.

WHAT'S THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THROUGH OUR PRIORITIES AND CORE VALUES.

>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CREATED SO MANY FRAMEWORKS.

WE HAVE CREATED FRAMEWORKS OF PRIORITIES, OF THE RUBRICS.

>> THAT'S HOW WE SET THE SIDEBOARDS.

OUR PRIORITIES ARE THE SIDEBOARDS.

>> YES. IN YOUR POINT, THE MOST RESPONSIBLE MAY NOT BE THE MOST COST SAVING.

>> EXACTLY.

>> ONE THING I WOULD ALSO ADD BECAUSE THIS IS FACILITIES REVIEW TOO.

IF THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS WOULD WORK IF YOU HAD A NEW FACILITY HERE OR IF IN A FUTURE BOND PACKAGE, IF WE REQUESTED SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TO ME, THAT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE.

>> OR INVESTED IN A CANVAS.

>> TO BE HONEST, IF WE INVESTED HERE AT A CAPACITY IN THIS PLACE, THIS OPTION WOULD WORK WELL, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE FUTURE-LOOKING THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW AND KNOW HOW TO PLAN FOR.

>> ONE THING IF WE TALK ABOUT CONSOLIDATION, ONE THING I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THAT FACILITY, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANTED IS GOING IN THE MARKET AND CHARTER SCHOOL TAKING IT OUT.

WE WANT TO KNOW THE WHOLE PLAN.

>> YEAH. TO ME, THAT YOU GO YOU SAID THAT WOULD BE LIKE A DETAILED, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

BUT THIS IS WHAT OUR VISION WOULD BE.

[OVERLAPPING] THIS WOULD BE A VISION FOR IT.

>> WHAT I WANTED, I THINK SIX OF US, ESPECIALLY WHO IS NOT HERE, BUT HERE ON THE SAME PAVEMENTS, DR. HUNT, IS YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING?

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

>> I HEARD SIMILAR THOUGHTS FROM ALL SIX OF US.

>> YES. DR. BROOKS HAD A QUESTION.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MISS BROWN? MISS SARKAR? ARE YOU GUYS, SAY, CLEAR, BUT LESS MUDDY ON IT?

>> WE'RE CLEARER.

>> CLEARER?

>> YEAH, CLEARER, AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO DEBRIEF IT AND PROCESS IT,

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AND JUST, AGAIN, IT'S JUST GIVEN US MORE DIRECTION.

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE NEXT PART IS THE VATRE.

[IV.A.II. Voter Approval Tax Rate Election (VATRE) (SPG1) (FOS)]

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE.

>> THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE THAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN APRIL.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT SELECTING THE AUDITOR.

AT THE LAST MEETING ON MONDAY, THE AUDITOR PROVIDED THAT FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY AUDIT REPORT.

IT IS CURRENTLY POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE ON THE FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY PAGE.

BUT IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VATRE, THEN I WOULD ASSUME WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE A VATRE PAGE AND IT WOULD BE POSTED THERE.

CERTIFIED VALUES WERE RELEASED TODAY.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE SUBMITTED THOSE VALUES TO TEA, THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY, AND ARE WAITING FOR OUR MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE TO BE VERIFIED.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION.

THEN THERE'S A LOT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN PRIOR TO THAT AUGUST 19TH MEETING, WHICH IS THE VERY LAST DAY THAT THE VATRE COULD BE CALLED.

I WANTED TO JUST GO THROUGH A FEW BRIEF SLIDES ON TAX RATES AND WHAT THOSE TAX RATES ARE, EVEN MORE JUST FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

THERE ARE TWO TAX RATES THAT THE DISTRICT HAS WITHIN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE.

THERE'S THE TIER 1 TAX RATE, AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS SUBJECT TO ONGOING COMPRESSION.

SINCE 2019, THAT HAS BEEN COMPRESSED, AND IT IS COMPRESSED BASED UPON STATEWIDE PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH AND LOCAL PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH.

THIS IS WHAT TEA CALCULATES FOR DISTRICTS EVERY YEAR.

WHEN WE STARTED IN THE TAX YEAR 2018, THEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THIS COMPRESSION LAW AND THE M&O TIER 1 RATE WENT FROM $1 TO $0.93.

THE TEA CALCULATES THAT MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE EACH YEAR BASED UPON WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO USE AS THEIR COMPRESSION NUMBER, BUT ALSO ON LOCAL PROPERTY VALUE GROWS.

AS THE DISTRICT'S LOCAL PROPERTY VALUE GROWS, THE TAX RATE GETS COMPRESSED SOME MORE, AND SO THAT DOES CAUSE SOME VARIATION IN THE M&O TAX RATE FOR EACH DISTRICT.

COPPELL ISD'S PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH WAS 10.39% FOR THE 2024 TAX RATE.

THAT'S WHAT JUST CAME OUT.

THAT MEANS THAT CISD'S MAXIMUM COMPRESSED TAX RATE FOR 2024 IS ABOUT $0.61.

THEN YOU ADD THE TIER 2 PENNIES TO THAT.

THE TIER 2 PENNIES ARE THOSE GOLDEN AND COPPER PENNIES THAT WE TALK ABOUT, AND THERE WERE 17.

BACK IN 2018, COPPELL ISD HAD ALL OF THOSE 17 PENNIES.

THAT WAS FROM THE 2010 TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION.

WE GOT ALL THE WAY UP TO 17.

SINCE THAT TIME THOUGH, THE FIRST EIGHT PENNIES ARE GOLDEN AND THOSE ARE NOT SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE.

THE COPPER PENNIES ARE SUBJECT TO A LITTLE BIT OF RECAPTURE.

IN 2019, WHEN THAT LEGISLATION WAS PASSED, IT SAID THAT ANYTIME THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, THOSE COPPER PENNIES WILL BE COMPRESSED.

IN 2019, THE DISTRICT SAW WHILE ALL DISTRICTS SAW AN INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT FROM ABOUT 51 40 TO 61 60, AND 3.17 PENNIES WERE CUT OFF OF OUR TAX RATE.

WE WERE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO TAX PUBLIC AT THAT RATE.

TIER 2 WENT FROM 17 TO 13.83, A REDUCTION OF 3.17 PENNIES.

THIS IS WHAT OUR M&O RATE HAS LOOKED LIKE.

THE M&O RATE WAS $1.17 SINCE I THINK ABOUT 2011 THROUGH 2018.

SINCE THE LEGISLATURE PUT THAT LEGISLATION IN IN 2019, THE TAX RATE HAS BEEN REDUCED BY 36.78 PENNIES.

>> THE VATRE, THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION, WOULD ALLOW THE DISTRICT TO TAX THOSE ADDITIONAL 3.17 PENNIES, AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE ABOUT $2.4 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE TO THE DISTRICT.

WITH THAT INCREASE IN CERTIFIED PROPERTY VALUES,

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WE CAN SEE THAT BOTTOM NUMBER IS THE PROPOSED '24-'25 WITH THE VATRE, THE TAX RATE WOULD STILL GO DOWN TO 0.7869.

THE GROWTH OF 10.39% IS GOING TO FORCE COMPRESSION OF 4.7 PENNIES.

THE VATRE WOULD ASK TO INCREASE THAT TAX RATE BY 3.17 WITH AN OVERALL NET DECREASE OF 1.53 PENNIES.

>> RIGHT HERE. THOSE 4.7, THAT COMPRESSION, DO WE LOSE MONEY, OR IS THAT OUR RECAPTURE PAYMENT?

>> THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THOSE 4.7 PENNIES ARE NOW BEING FUNDED BY THE STATE.

IT'S JUST THAT SCALE BALANCE OF HOW IS THE STATE GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE A CERTAIN ENTITLEMENT OF FUNDING BASED UPON OUR STUDENT AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.

IF THAT WAS TWO MILLION DOLLARS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE TAXPAYERS MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING 1.9 MILLION, AND THE STATE 100,000.

BUT THEN WHEN THE TAX RATE GETS COMPRESSED, THE STATE NOW MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING 200,000 AND TAXPAYERS ARE CONTRIBUTING 1.8.

YOU SEE HOW IT BALANCES.

IT'S THAT BALANCE BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE DISTRICT.

BUT OUR FUNDING DOESN'T CHANGE.

OUR FUNDING IS STILL THAT SAME AMOUNT.

IT'S JUST WHO'S PAYING FOR IT.

>> MY BIG QUESTION IS, WITH THIS COMPRESSION, DO WE LOSE MONEY FROM OUR M&O THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE UP? OR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NO, THE STATE COVERS THAT.

>> THE STATE IS COVERING IT. WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD REDUCE OUR RECAPTURE, AND THE STATE WOULD CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE FUNDING OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT OUR OVERALL FUNDING IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE OUR OVERALL FUNDING IS BASED ON THE AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE OF OUR STUDENTS.

IT'S JUST LESS RECAPTURE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I'M SO SORRY. [OVERLAPPING] I HAVE TO HOLD ALL OF THIS ON MY HEAD.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] IT'S HARD FOR ME TO HOLD.

THEN ON THE PENNIES, WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS THEY SAY, WHY RAISE THE TAXES IF IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE STATE? OUT OF THOSE THREE COPPER PENNIES, HOW MUCH OF THAT IS SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE?

>> IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WADA.

I KNOW WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WADA A LOT [LAUGHTER] BUT THAT'S THE WEIGHTED AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.

DISTRICTS ARE GUARANTEED, I BELIEVE, A LITTLE BIT OVER $49 PER WADA FOR EACH COPPER PENNY.

YES, THE DISTRICT WOULD BE BRINGING IN MORE THAN $2.4 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE.

THE DISTRICT WOULD KEEP 2.4 AND THE REST WOULD GO BACK IN RECAPTURE.

>> ON THE SAME SLIDE, TWO QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE, YOU SAID OUR FUNDING DOESN'T CHANGE WHETHER WE'RE FUNDING IT OUT OF LOCAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS, OR WE'RE GETTING MONEY FROM THE STATE.

>> RIGHT.

>> ASSUMING THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T CHANGE THE LEGISLATION, AND DOESN'T CHANGE THE FUNDING FOR IT, WE STILL HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR AND FIGHT, IF YOU WILL, FOR THOSE DOLLARS WHEN IT'S NOT OUR LOCAL M&O DOLLARS THAT WE ARE CONTROLLING.

IT COULD CHANGE-

>> YES.

>> IF LAW CHANGES.

>> LET ME CLARIFY THIS TOO.

THE COPPER PENNIES, THE 2.4 MILLION WOULD INCREASE OUR FUNDING.

WE WOULD KEEP THE 2.4 MILLION.

IT'S JUST OUR REGULAR TIER 1 FUNDING IS BEING PAID MORE BY THE STATE THAN BY OUR LOCAL TAXPAYERS.

BUT THE 2.4 MILLION WE WOULD GET FROM THE ADDITIONAL COPPER PENNIES WOULD BE SOLID DOLLARS THAT WOULD COME TO THE DISTRICT.

>> THE FUNDING FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT DOESN'T CHANGE PER BIENNIUM.

>> RIGHT.

>> IT COULD CHANGE.

>> YES.

>> MY SECOND THING IS ON THIS PROPOSED TAX RATE IF A VATRE PASSED, IF WE CALLED FOR A VATRE.

HOW MUCH OF THIS CAN WE COMMUNICATE? BECAUSE EVEN JUST TALKING AROUND THE TABLE AT MY HOUSE, IT'S REALLY CONFUSING TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND.

HOW CAN MY ACTUAL TAX RATE GO DOWN, BUT I COULD POTENTIALLY VOTE FOR A TAX INCREASE.

WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE IF WE DID CALL FOR A VATRE TO MAKE THIS AS UNCONFUSING AS POSSIBLE, BUT I DO THINK IT'S INTENTIONALLY CREATED TO BE QUITE CONFUSING.

>> I'M GOING TO LET MS. BROWN TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE. [LAUGHTER]

>> BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SHARED, WE CAN SHARE, BECAUSE IT'S FACTUAL INFORMATION.

IT'S NOT CONSIDERED ADVOCACY.

IT IS EXPLAINING THE PROCESS AND EXPLAINING WHAT IT MEANS.

WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE THE FACTS ABOUT IT.

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WHEN IT TOWS THE LINE, OR CROSSES THE LINE HONESTLY IS WHEN WE SAY VOTE THIS WAY OR VOTE THAT WAY.

WE JUST HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE FACTS, AND WE CAN SAY THE REVENUE WE GET IS 2.4 MILLION.

>> WE GIVE IT NUMBERS TOO, IT'S NOT JUST A CONCEPT. THESE TWO CHARTS-

>> EXACTLY.

>> AND YOUR IMAGES WITH THE DIFFERENT COLOR OF THE PENNIES, ALL OF THAT IS IN THE REALM OF FAIR TO COMMUNICATE.

>> IT IS.

>> GREAT.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE COMMUNICATE IT TOO BECAUSE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BE VERY CONFUSING.

THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, IT'S GOING TO BE COMPARING OUR REVENUE GENERATED IN ONE YEAR VERSUS ANOTHER YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT $2.4 MILLION, AND THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS WHEN YOU VOTE AT THE BALLOT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON THE VATRE?

>> SHE HAD MY QUESTION. [LAUGHTER].

>> THESE ARE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE ASKING THEM YOU KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THEM.

I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT MS. BENTLEY, IT'S INTENDED TO BE CONFUSING.

IT'S DIFFERENT FROM A BOND WHICH WAS DIFFERENT FROM WHEN WE HAD AN ELECTION IN 2016.

BUT THANKFULLY MS. BROWN IS WELL VERSED IN IT, AND IT WAS LIKE A TRE FROM BACK IN THE DAY, BUT IT'S A VATRE, AND JUST FROM OUR DISCUSSION MONDAY AT THE BOARD MEETING I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES FROM WHEN WE HAD THAT BACK IN THE DAY. GREAT QUESTION.

>> [INAUDIBLE] LIKE A STAR WARS CLIP, A DARTH VADER CLIP.

[LAUGHTER] HOW HE SAYS, I'VE ALTERED THE DEAL, PRAY I DON'T ALTER IT ANY FURTHER.

[LAUGHTER] IS THAT IT? WHEN I LISTEN TO HOW COMPLICATED THIS IS, THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

ARE THEY JUST WAITING TO TAKE THEIR PENNIES BACK AWAY FROM US AFTER WE'VE ACTIVATED THIS? [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT IS THE RISK, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DISTRICTS THAT HAVE GONE OUT FOR VATRES, THERE ARE A LOT THAT WENT OUT SOONER THAN WE DID.

THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER 2019 CALLED A FORMULA TRANSITION GRANT, AND OUR DISTRICT WAS RECEIVING FORMULA TRANSITION GRANT FUNDS.

HAD WE GONE AND ASKED OUR VOTERS FOR THE 3.17 PENNIES AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN NICKED BY THE FORMULA TRANSITION GRANT.

SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO ASK BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE NET ALL 2.4.

SO NOW IS THE TIME WHERE IT MAKES MORE SENSE.

>> HONESTLY, IT'S LIKE THEY'VE ALTERED THIS ALREADY.

BECAUSE YOU SAID IN, WHEN DID THEY PASS? THESE PENNIES WE HAD ALREADY AUTHORIZED.

THE VOTERS ALREADY AUTHORIZED THEM BEFORE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THEN THEY ALTERED THE DEAL.

>> IT WAS CALLED THE TRE, SOMETHING ELSE JUST TO MAKE IT CONFUSING.

>> NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET BACK WHAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED TO HELP [INAUDIBLE]

>> [INAUDIBLE] AND WERE TAKEN OUT IN 2019.

>> VA JUST MEANS VOTER APPROVAL.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THE TRE HAD TO BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS TOO.

>> WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU GUYS WANT FROM US? [OVERLAPPING]

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION PREPARED FOR AUGUST 18TH.

>> PERFECT. THEN OUR FINAL PIECE BEFORE YOU HAVE AN ACTION ITEM,

[IV.B. House Bill 3 Goals Board Discussion ]

IS THE HOUSE BILL 3 UPDATE.

WE DO HAVE A COPY OF YOUR MOST RECENT GOALS THAT WE HAD POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THESE ARE FIVE YEAR GOALS, AND WE ARE IN THE END OF THE FIFTH YEAR.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN MEETING WITH DR. BROOKS AND HER TEAM TO TALK ABOUT SOME IDEAS FOR FUTURE GOALS.

I KNOW YOU'VE ALL HAD YOUR TRAINING.

NICOLE WAS A TRAINER OF TRAINERS.

SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

>> I'LL JUST SAY WHAT I THINK AND YOU GUYS CAN MODIFY IT HOWEVER YOU WANT.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE AFTER THESE DATA TRAINING MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD.

SINCE MOST OF THE AREA IS IN THAT DOMAIN 3, THAT IS REALLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING SCHOOL BOARD HB 3 GOALS.

I WOULD REALLY LOVE JUST TO SEE STAFF COME WITH RECOMMENDATIONS BY [INAUDIBLE] THAT ARE ATTAINABLE YET CHALLENGING, AND THAT ALSO ARE ALIGNED WITH GOALS THAT THE STAFF NEEDS TO HAVE SET TO TAP INTO THE ESA FUNDING BECAUSE THAT DOMAIN 3,

[01:50:02]

THERE'S ALSO THE ESA IMPACT.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO SET GOALS LOWER THAN WHAT STAFF ALREADY HAS TO ACHIEVE FOR US TO GET OUR FEDERAL FUNDING.

SO FOR ME, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE A WEEK BEFORE A MEETING THE DRAFT GOALS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD RECOMMEND [INAUDIBLE] OVER FIVE YEARS, AND FOR THERE TO BE ONE OR TWO YEARS IN THAT FIVE YEARS THAT ARE A STRETCH OR A PUSH WHEN YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE THE TIMING IS APPROPRIATE BASED UPON WHATEVER MOMENTUM YOU NEED, OR SYSTEMS YOU NEED TO GET IN PLACE, OR STAFF YOU MIGHT NEED.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR US TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD.

I KNOW YOU GUYS AREN'T GETTING YOUR DATA FROM THE STATE UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS.

SO I THINK IF WE HAVE THESE GOALS SET BY THE END OF AUGUST RATHER THAN BY THE TIME SCHOOL STARTS, I THINK THAT'S FINE.

I THINK WE CAN MAKE A REALLY VALID CASE TO TEA IN THE STATE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT WE NEEDED TO SET GOALS IN THE WAY THAT THEY'VE ASKED US TO SET GOALS.

>> I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY, WE HAD A LATER DATE FOR OUR AUGUST BOARD MEETING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE [LAUGHTER] VATRE WE MOVED IT UP.

TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE NOT GETTING OUR OFFICIAL START, AND THEN, OF COURSE, RESULTS UNTIL MID AUGUST.

>> WE NEED THOSE TO SET GOOD GOALS.

>> YEAH.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU FOR NOT GETTING THE DATA IN TIME TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION.

THAT'S JUST THE CASE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] IF THERE ARE NO BOARD GOALS, THEN BOARD GOALS ARE ALIGNING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT GOALS WHICH WILL HAVE [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT DOES COVER AT A HIGH LEVEL.

THEY'RE NOT VERY SPECIFIC [INAUDIBLE] BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL IT DOES COVER EVERY POINT.

>> YEAH.

>> COMPONENTS THAT ARE IN THE DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT DR. BROOKS PRESENTED ON MONDAY THAT YOU-ALL APPROVED, HAVE ELEMENTS MUCH MORE BROADER THAN THIS, BUT HAVE ELEMENTS [OVERLAPPING]

>> [INAUDIBLE] I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING THE WORK, HEADING IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT EACH OF THOSE BENCHMARKS SHOULD BE DURING THOSE FIVE YEARS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] GOING TO GIVE MY FEEDBACK REAL QUICK.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> AGREE.

>> JOEY, YOU GOOD?

>> I'M GOOD.

>> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> MOVING RIGHT ALONG. [INAUDIBLE] ON THIS ONE. [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES.

>> THEN THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR ONE LONELY ACTION ITEM TONIGHT. [INAUDIBLE]

[V.A. Discuss and consider all matters incident and related to the redemption or defeasance of certain outstanding obligations of the District, including the adoption of a resolution pertaining thereto]

>> JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT I SHOWED YOU BEFORE.

BUT THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT OR THE CFO TO WORK TO CHOOSE THE SERIES THAT ARE DEFEASED AND TO INITIATE DEFEASANCE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

WE'D BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CHOOSING THE MOST APPROPRIATE FUNDS AND THE MOST APPROPRIATE DATES ON WHICH TO CHOOSE THE DEFEASEMENT TO GIVE US THAT ABILITY TO BETTER MANAGE THE INS TAX RATE FOR THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 YEARS.

>> DO WE NEED TO SPECIFY THE CASH AMOUNT OR YOU GUYS HAVE THE LEEWAY IN THAT?

>> IT'S A BROAD RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS US TO CHOOSE THAT.

WE'RE CERTAINLY TAKING YOUR DIRECTION AND YOUR INPUT TODAY, BUT YES, THE RESOLUTION WOULD ALLOW US TO CHOOSE THAT.

>> DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM?

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE DEFEASANCE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE] BENTLEY, SECONDED BY TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE] ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? HEARING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? THE MOTION PASSES 6-0.

>> SINCE I'M ON A ROLL, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO ADJOURN BY TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE] BENTLEY.

SECONDED BY TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE] ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? THE MOTION PASSES 6-0.

WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:25.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.