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>> TIME IS 5:30 AND I'M GOING TO CALL THE WORKSHOP FOR

[I. CALL TO ORDER]

THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT INTO SESSION.

FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS ESTABLISH A QUORUM FROM MY LEFT.

WE HAVE TRUSTEE LEE WALKER, VICE PRESIDENT NICOLE BENTLEY, SECRETARY JOE MATTHEW, TRUSTEE RONA RAVAL, TRUSTEE ANTHONY HILL AND MYSELF.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP TONIGHT FOR OR TO SPEAK IN OPEN FORUM. THAT WILL TAKE US.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK ACTION ITEMS WE NEED TO DO.

ONE IS CERTIFYING THE ELECTION RESULTS.

[IV.A. Consider and act upon an Order Declaring Results of the May 3, 2025, Trustee General Election]

GET COMFORTABLE. I'VE GOT TO READ THIS WHOLE PAGE [NOISE] AND THEN WE'LL DO OUR THING HERE.

THE ORDER DECLARING RESULTS OF TRUSTEE GENERAL ELECTION.

ON THE 12TH DAY OF MAY 2025, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT CONVENED IN A MEETING WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS PRESENT TO WIT.

DAVID KAVANS PRESIDENT, NICOLE BENTLEY, VICE PRESIDENT, JOBE MATTHEW SECRETARY, LEE WALKER MEMBER, ANTHONY HILL MEMBER.

RONA RAVAL MEMBER, AND MINIS SET THE ABSENT.

CONSTITUTING A QUORUM AND AMONG OTHER PROCEEDINGS HAD BY SAID BOARD OF TRUSTEES WERE THE FOLLOWING.

THERE CAME ON TO BE HEARD THE RETURNS OF THE TRUSTEE GENERAL ELECTION HELD ON THE THIRD DAY OF MAY 2025 FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING THREE MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, ONE FOR EACH OF PLACES 1,2, AND 3.

SAID RETURNS OF THE TRUSTEE ELECTION HAVING BEEN DULY CANVASSED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND THEY'RE BEING CAST AT SAID ELECTION THE FOLLOWING VOTES.

FOR PLACE 1, A TOTAL OF 4,645 VOTES WIT MH THE CANDIDATES FOR SAID PLACE 1 RECEIVING THE FOLLOWING VOTES TO WIT.

LEE WALKER, 3,000 573,579, SHERRY HILL, 1066 FOR A TOTAL OF 4,645 VOTES.

FOR PLACE 2, A TOTAL OF 4,769 VOTES WITH EACH OF THE CANDIDATES FOR SAID PLACE 2 RECEIVING THE FOLLOWING VOTES TO WIT, JULE WATERS, 1788, JONATHAN POWERS, 2981 FOR A TOTAL OF 4,769 VOTES.

FOR PLACE 3, A TOTAL OF 4,185 VOTES WITH EACH OF THE CANDIDATES FOR SAID PLACE 3 RECEIVING THE FOLLOWING VOTES TO WIT, ANTHONY HILL, 4,185 FOR A TOTAL OF 4,185 VOTES.

ATTACHED HERE TO AND INCORPORATED HEREIN FOR ALL PURPOSES AS THE TABULATION REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE, SECTION 67, SPOT 004, ARE THE DETAILED VOTING CENTER ELECTION RESULTS PREPARED BY DALLAS COUNTY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT FOR D COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, MAY 3RD, 2025, FLORIDA TRUSTEES ELECTION.

IF APPEARING TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND IT APPEARING TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND THE SAID BOARD SO FINDING THAT LEE WALKER RECEIVED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES CAST IN PLACE 1, THAT JONATHAN POWERS RECEIVED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES CAST IN PLACE 2, AND THAT ANTHONY HILL RECEIVED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES CAST IN PLACE 3.

IT IS THEREFORE FOUND AND DECLARED AND SO ORDERED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT THE ABOVE TRUSTEE ELECTION WAS DULY CALLED, THAT NOTICE OF SAID ELECTION WAS DULY POSTED AND THAT SAID ELECTION WAS HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW, AND THAT AT SAID ELECTION, LEE WALKER WAS ELECTED TO SAID BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN PLACE 1, SUBJECT TO TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE.

JONATHAN POWERS WAS ELECTED TO SAID BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN PLACE 2, AND ANTHONY HILL WAS ELECTED TO SAID BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN PLACE 3, SUBJECT TO TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE.

IT IS FURTHER FOUND TO DETERMINE THAT THE DATE PLACE AND SUBJECT OF THIS MEETING WAS DULY POSTED ON THE BULLETIN BOARD LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL ADMINISTRATION OFFICE OF THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, A PLACE CONVENIENT AND READILY ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

SAID NOTICE HAVING BEEN SO POSTED, REMAINED POSTED FOR AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRECEDING THE SCHEDULED TIME OF SAID MEETING.

THE ABOVE ORDER BEING READ, IT WAS A PAUSE ON THAT ONE.

THAT'S THE ORDER. DO WE NOW HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE ON THAT ORDER?

>> I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE ORDER AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE NICOLE BENTLEY, SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JOBE MATTHEW.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE WE'LL GET THERE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 6-0.

THE ABOVE ORDER BEING READ, IT WAS MOVED AND SECONDED THAT THE SAME DOES PASS.

THEREUPON, THE QUESTION BEING CALLED FOR, THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD VOTED AYE, DAVID CAVINESS, NICOLE BENTLEY,

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JOBE MATTHEW, LEE WALKER, ANTHONY HILL, AND RONA RAVAL, AND THE FOLLOWING VOTED NO.

NO ONE WITH MANIS ABSENT.

THAT IS THE ORDER. THAT ACTION IS DONE. I BELIEVE IS THAT RIGHT?

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?.

>> YOU MAY AS YOUR NEXT.

[IV.B. Issue Certificate of Election to Newly Elected Board Members]

>> WALKER TO PRESENT TO YOU YOUR CERTIFICATE OF ELECTION HERS.

>> THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE YOU.

>> MR. POWERS. I'M GOING AND PLACE IN ORDER.

PLACED PLEASE [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU, GUYS. THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR ACTION ITEMS. WE'RE GOING TO GO JUST TO TOUCH OUT OF ORDER TONIGHT.

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PERSONNEL THINGS TO GET BRIEFED ON, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK IN FOR THE WORK SESSION AND THE REPORT FROM OUR COMMITTEE.

TIME IS 5:37.

[VI. CLOSED SESSION (Texas Government Code, Section 551.074 - Personnel and Section 551.076- Security Devices or Security Audits) ]

I'M GOING TO CALL US IN CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5F107 PERSONNEL AND SECTION 5 1076, SECURITY DEVICES OR SECURITY AS.

TIME AT 6:50, AND I'LL CALL US BACK INTO OPEN SESSION.

[VII. RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION]

THERE'S NO ACTION WE NEEDED TO TAKE OUT OF CLOSE.

THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT AND BEING PATIENT WITH US. WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE'RE GOOD, NAVIN?

>> I BOUGHT I HAD THE THUMBS UP. THANK YOU.

>> WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, DR. HUNT FOR OUR WORK SESSION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT NAVIANS, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE DO HAVE A LOT ON THE AGENDA AS FAR AS OUR CONTENTS.

WE WANT TO JUMP RIGHT IN.

AS WE START, I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT JUST A REMINDER TO THE BOARD.

WE HAVE OUR BOARD NORMS IN FRONT OF YOU AS FAR AS BOARD MEETING NORMS ARE CONCERNED.

I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE GET REAL EXCITED ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT CAN COME OFF AS A LITTLE MAYBE TOO INTENSE, AND SO I JUST ASK THAT WE BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE AS WE TALK ABOUT SOME PRETTY SERIES TOPICS TONIGHT WITH A LOT OF HEAVY CONTENT.

EXCITED TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE SHANE JONES HERE, WHO IS THE COACH HERE ALONG WITH JOHN WEST, WHO IS IN KENTUCKY.

JOHN, WILL YOU WAIVE IF YOU CAN HEAR US?

>> I CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> THE WAY. YOU CAN JUST TELL US.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR BEING A PART OF THIS.

TOGETHER, THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT.

IT'S VERY MUCH CONNECTED TO OUR DISTRICT STRATEGIC PLAN.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE PROCESS THAT THE CRC COMMITTEE USED, AND CRC AS A REMINDER IS THE CAPEL.

>> REVIEW COMMITTEE.

>> ABOUT THAT. WE USE A LOT OF ACRONYME.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHOEVER IS WATCHING AT HOME AND ON RECORD THAT THAT IS WHAT CIRC STANDS FOR.

PART OF THEIR CHARGE WAS TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET CHALLENGES AND GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT, AS WELL AS LOOK AT FACILITY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PINKERTON, AS WELL AS BROCK IN THE SERVICE CENTER, WHICH ARE BOTH DISTRICT FACILITIES THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTY.

THEN VICE PRESIDENT BENTLEY IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

A LOT'S BEEN GOING ON DOWN IN AUSTIN WITH A LOT MORE TO COME.

AND SO YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S NO BIG SURPRISE.

SOME OF THE UNFORTUNATE THINGS THAT WE'RE BEING FORCED TO DO AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE DIRECT RESULT OF, IN MY OPINION, INADEQUATE FUNDING FROM THE STATE.

AND SO I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SHARE.

BLESS YOU. THEN WE'RE GOING TO END WITH OUR MULTI YEAR BALANCED BUDGET.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET ISSUES FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

IT'S NOT REALLY NEW INFORMATION, BUT IT'S NOT ALSO GOOD INFORMATION, AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A VERY DIRECT AND UPFRONT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE BUDGET AND SOME REVIEW OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD AND CABINETS PRIORITIES AS WELL AND THE CORRELATION THAT WE MADE, AND THEN SOME POSSIBILITIES FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT LONG TERM.

THAT'S AN OVERVIEW, AND LIKE I SAID WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTENT, SO LET'S JUMP RIGHT IN.

[V.A. Coppell ISD Efficiency Review Committee (CERC) Report - Angela Brown (Chief Communications Officer), Shayne Jones (Co-Chair) and Jon West (Co-Chair)]

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>> GOOD EVENING. BOARD. I'M ANGELA BROWN THE DISTRICT CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU A COMMITTEE REPORT FROM THE CLIC EFFICIENCY REVIEW COMMITTEE OR WHAT WE CALL CRC.

I'M GOING TO START BY GIVING US AN OVERVIEW.

WHERE WE GOT HERE SOME HISTORY TO THIS.

TO WIDE SOME HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.

WE BEGAN THIS WORK ALMOST EXACTLY A YEAR AGO TONIGHT.

OUR COP ISD, 2030 STRATEGIC PLAN INCLUDED 7.1 0.1 AS A STRATEGY AND SPECIFIC RESULT.

THE SPECIFIC RESULT FALLS UNDER OBJECTIVE 7 A STRATEGY 7.1.

OBJECTIVE 7 SAYS TO DETERMINE A LONG RANGE PROPERTIES PLAN, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE AGE OF OUR FACILITIES, AVAILABLE SPACE, CURRENT AND PROJECTED ENROLLMENT, AND PROGRAM NEEDS.

THE 7.1 STRATEGY SAYS, TO IMPLEMENT AN EVALUATION PROCESS AND A PRIORITIZATION MATRIX TO ASSESS CURRENT AND FUTURE EXPENDITURES.

THE SPECIFIC RESULT 7.1 0.1, WHICH WE'VE USED ALL THROUGH THIS YEAR SAYS, TO DEVELOP AN EVALUATION PROCESS THAT PROMOTES MORE EFFICIENT FACILITY AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

COST SAVINGS, IMPROVED LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, TRANSPARENCY, DATA DRIVEN DECISION MAKING, AND LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT BY PRIORITIZING EXPENDITURES AND ADDRESSING LONG TERM NEEDS.

THE ORIGINAL 711 IMPLEMENTATION TEAM WAS MADE UP OF THREE CO FACILITATORS, SEVEN PARENTS, REPRESENTING BOTH SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, AND SIX STAFF MEMBERS, REPRESENTING CAMPUSES AND DEPARTMENTS, AND SOME OF THOSE WERE THE STAFF MEMBERS WERE ALSO CST PARENTS.

THE GOAL OF THE 711 IMPLEMENTATION TEAM WAS TO DEVELOP A FACILITY EVALUATION TOOL OR A RUBRIC, AS WE CALLED IT, TO ADDRESS THE FACILITY AND BUILDING AND LAND UTILIZATION AND EFFICIENCY, DUE TO OUR DECLINING ENROLLMENT AND BUDGET CONCERNS.

AFTER THE RUBRIC WAS DEVELOPED, THE BOARD APPROVED THE RUBI ON JUNE 10TH 2024.

THEN A SEPARATE EVALUATION TEAM OBJECTIVELY ANALYZED THE DATA, AND THAT HAPPENED IN JUNE 2024.

THE DISTRICT CABINET WITH PRINCIPAL REPRESENTATIVES, SERVED AS THE DECISION FILTER TEAM BEFORE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD IN THE FALL 2024.

THE GROWTH MINDSET, WE REFLECTED ON OUR 711 PROCESS AND MADE POSITIVE CHANGES TO REFLECT OUR CORE VALUES EVEN MORE.

WHILE MORE THAN 50 STAKEHOLDERS APPLIED TO SERVE, WERE INVITED TO BE A PART OF THE CERC COMMITTEE, 43 RAISED THEIR HAND AND MADE THE COMMITMENT TO SERVE.

THE COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF PARENTS, STUDENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS, FUTURE PARENTS AND STAFF, REPRESENTING EVERY CAMPUS, EXCEPT FOR VICTORY PLACE.

FROM THIS COMMITTEE A NINE MEMBER SUBCOMMITTEE USED THE PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED AND APPROVED, 711 RUBRIC TO ANALYZE CURRENT DATA REGARDING OUR CURRENT CAMPUSES.

THE RUBRIC SUB COMMITTEE HELPED TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION AND DATA TO THE WHOLE CERC COMMITTEE.

BY GROWING THE SIZE AND THE REACH OF THE CERC COMMITTEE, MORE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND HELPED TO CREATE FEEDBACK AND INPUT, ALIGNED WITH THE COP LIST 2030 STRATEGIC PLAN.

OUR TWO CERC COMMITTEE CO CHAIRS ARE SHANE JONES AND JOHN WEST, THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT.

DUE TO LAST MINUTE WORK OBLIGATION, JOHN IS HERE VIRTUALLY BECAUSE HE'S IN KENTUCKY.

>> JOHN, YOU'RE STILL GOOD WITH HEARING AND SEEING US?

>> I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT, IF YOU'VE SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND SO THAT WE MIGHT RECOGNIZE YOU? [APPLAUSE]

>> I WOULD NOW LIKE TO INTRODUCE SHANE JONES.

SHE IS GOING TO HELP PRESENT A REPORT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE YOUR VANNA.

>> FANTASTIC.

>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, DOCTOR HUNT, AND THE COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS SHANE JONES.

JOHN WEST AND I SERVE AS THE CO CHAIR OF THE COPPELLISD EFFICIENCY REVIEW COMMITTEE OR CERC.

WE WERE FORMED TO EVALUATE AND ADDRESS BUDGET CHALLENGES FACING OUR DISTRICT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

HERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE WORK DONE BY THE CERC COMMITTEE ACROSS FOUR KEY MEETINGS HELD FROM JANUARY THROUGH APRIL 2025.

THE WORK OF CERC HAS BEEN DEEP, CHALLENGING, AND THOUGHTFUL.

WE'VE HAD HONEST CONVERSATIONS, EXAMINED TOUGH REALITIES, AND CONSIDERED OPTIONS THROUGH A LENS OF CARE AND RESPONSIBILITY.

WE BEGAN BY REVIEWING CISD'S FINANCIAL STATUS AND THE DISTRICT'S PROJECTED BUDGET DEFICITS.

THE COMMITTEE WAS INTRODUCED TO A DECISION MAKING RUBRIC AND WE REVIEWED THE DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT ON ENROLLMENT.

A COMMUNITY BUDGET SURVEY WAS ALSO LAUNCHED TO GATHER PUBLIC INPUT.

SESSION 2 FOCUSED ON THE CONSOLIDATION OF PINKERTON ELEMENTARY, CONSIDERING OPTIONS FOR THE BUILDING AND LAND USAGE MOVING FORWARD.

WE ALSO REVIEWED RESULTS FROM THE BUDGET SURVEY TO

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INCORPORATE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVES INTO OUR ANALYSIS.

AT THE THIRD MEETING, WE REVIEWED INFORMATION FROM THE SECONDARY SCHEDULING COMMITTEE.

WE ALSO REVIEWED THE INFORMATION FROM THE 711 RUBRIC SUBCOMMITTEE.

THE SUBCOMMITTEE RAN THE RUBRIC USING UPDATED NUMBERS AND INFORMATION.

THIS INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED AT A FUTURE BOARD MEETING OR WORKSHOP.

AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE PROVIDED SPECIFIC INPUT ON THE BUDGET OPTIONS, AIMING TO IDENTIFY SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS.

THROUGHOUT, WE REMAIN FOCUSED ON BALANCING FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE DISTRICT'S EDUCATIONAL MISSION.

CERCS WORK IS GROUNDED IN DATA, TRANSPARENCY, AND A COMMITMENT TO STUDENTS.

>> THE CHARGE OF OUR COMMITTEE WAS TO REVIEW, EVALUATE, AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON DISTRICT INITIATIVES THAT HAVE POTENTIAL IMPACT TO STUDENTS, STAFF, AND THE DISTRICT'S BUDGET.

AS THE CERC COMMITTEE PROVIDED FEEDBACK AND EVALUATED OPTIONS, THE CAVEATS LISTED ON THE SCREEN WERE CONSIDERED, INCLUDING THAT ALL DECISIONS WILL BE MADE THROUGH THE FILTER OF THE DISTRICT'S CORE VALUES: GREAT TEACHING, COLLECTIVE ENGAGEMENT, AUTHENTIC RELATIONSHIPS, AND REDEFINING SUCCESS.

WE'LL ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN DIALOGUE REGARDING FUTURE DIRECTIONS AND TAKE PUBLIC INPUT ON BUDGET, OPERATIONAL, AND FACILITIES NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT TO SUPPORT THE DISTRICT'S MISSION AND STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

WE'LL PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON OPTIONS BROUGHT FORTH AS CONSIDERATIONS FOR EFFICIENCIES IN BUDGET OPERATIONS AND FACILITIES.

LET'S START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOWED.

THIS GRAPHIC REPRESENTS THE PROCESS FOR CERC AS IT REVIEWS DATA, PROVIDES FEEDBACK, AND EVALUATES RECOMMENDATIONS OF ALL TOPICS.

FOR EACH OPTION BROUGHT TO THE CERC, A COMMITTEE REVIEWED DATA AND PRESENTED THAT INFORMATION TO CERC.

CERC WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INPUT INTO THE COMMITTEE.

THEN THE COMMITTEE OR THE DISTRICT'S CABINET MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE.

WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE THAT ANALYSIS WITH YOU.

THE DISTRICT IS EXPLORING MULTIPLE STRATEGIES TO INCREASE REVENUE AND REDUCE EXPENSES.

THESE ARE CHALLENGING TIMES, AND POTENTIAL MEASURES INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM HIRING FREEZES AND STAFF REDUCTIONS TO TRANSPORTATION CHANGES AND PROGRAM ADJUSTMENTS.

THESE ARE NOT EASY CONVERSATIONS, BUT THEY ARE NECESSARY FOR LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY.

KNOWING THAT THE DISTRICT SPENDS ABOUT 80% OF ITS BUDGET ON STAFF PAYROLL, WE HAD TO CONSIDER OPTIONS THAT WOULD REDUCE OVERALL STAFF COSTS.

THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED AND EVALUATED THESE OPTIONS OR VARIATIONS OF THESE OPTIONS.

TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT AND PROJECTED DEFICITS, COPPELL ISD HAS A MULTI-YEAR PLAN TO REACH A BALANCED BUDGET THAT WILL BE PRESENTED LATER TONIGHT.

THUS, THE CERC COMMITTEE IS PROVIDING FEEDBACK AND INPUT ON SPECIFIC OPTIONS THAT WILL HELP DEVELOP THE LONG-RANGE PLAN TO CREATE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE CHANGES.

THE CREATION OF CERC IS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD AND DISTRICT ON THESE TYPES OF CHANGES, TO DO JUST THAT.

DECISIONS THAT ALLOW THE DISTRICT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN THE DELIVERY OF THE SAME HIGH-QUALITY PROGRAMMING, THE DISTRICT IS COMMITTED TO REMAINING A TOP-RATED DISTRICT, PROVIDING HIGH-QUALITY EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL STUDENTS, AND MAKING THOUGHTFUL STUDENT-CENTERED DECISIONS.

OUR GOAL IN CERC IS TO PROVIDE INPUT SO THE DISTRICT CAN BALANCE THE BUDGET WHILE FOCUSING THE RESOURCES ON THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE THE MOST IMPACTFUL AND DELIVERING THEM IN THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER POSSIBLE WHILE MINIMIZING THE IMPACT ON OUR STUDENTS.

THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE CLOSE THESE GAPS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? THAT'S WHAT OUR COMMITTEE HAS BEEN DEEPLY ENGAGED IN EXPLORING, THOUGHTFULLY, STRATEGICALLY, AND WITH THE FOCUS ON LONG-TERM IMPACTS.

WE REVIEWED A WIDE RANGE OF OPTIONS, EVERY ONE OF THEM WITH TRADE-OFFS.

WE APPLIED AN ACCEPTANCE THRESHOLD PROCESS TO GAUGE SUPPORT AMONG COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THE GOAL WASN'T JUST TO IDENTIFY POPULAR IDEAS, BUT TO DEEPLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS, BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE, OF EACH OPTION.

AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE OPTIONS THAT WE REVIEWED, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE DISCUSSED BALANCING EFFICIENCY WITH EDUCATIONAL QUALITY TO MAKE THOUGHTFUL STUDENT-CENTERED DECISIONS.

SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE ANALYZED INCLUDE SCHOOL CONSOLIDATIONS, EXPANDING OPEN ENROLLMENT, CHANGING TRANSPORTATION STRUCTURES, MODIFYING PROGRAMS AT BOTH ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY LEVELS, AND EVEN REVIEWING HOW WE PRIORITIZE STAFF COMPENSATION.

THESE ARE DIFFICULT BUT NECESSARY DISCUSSIONS.

WE REALIZE THAT SOME OF THESE DECISIONS REQUIRE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL AND SOME ARE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS, BUT AS A MATTER OF TRANSPARENCY, WE WANT TO SHARE ALL THE OPTIONS DISCUSSED IN CERC.

INCLUDED ON THE SLIDE ARE POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS FOR EACH OPTION.

WE WILL REVIEW THE COMMITTEE'S INPUT ON EACH OF THESE.

CLOSING ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR THE 2026-2027 SCHOOL YEAR AND BEYOND COULD RESULT IN SAVINGS OF APPROXIMATELY 1.1 MILLION IN PAYROLL AND ABOUT 400 K IN BUILDING EXPENSES.

WITH EXCESS CAPACITY AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL AND DECLINING ENROLLMENT, MAINTAINING UNDERUSED BUILDINGS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

THE DATA SUPPORTS ACTION NOW TO PRIORITIZE FUNDING FOR EDUCATORS AND STUDENT PROGRAMS. TO QUOTE ONE CERC COMMITTEE MEMBER, THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL.

THE COMMITTEE AGREED WITH 20 COMMITTEE MEMBERS VOTING FOR CLOSING ONE CAMPUS AND TWO RANKING THIS FOUR OUT OF FIVE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE SUPPORTS CLOSING TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND ESPECIALLY AGREES THAT THE CLOSURE SHOULD OCCUR AT THE SAME TIME RATHER THAN STAGGERING THEM.

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TWELVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS GAVE THIS THE HIGHEST RANKING WITH SEVEN GIVING IT A FOUR OUT OF FIVE.

ONE MEMBER GAVE IT A 3.5 OUT OF FIVE, AND TWO MEMBERS GAVE IT A THREE OUT OF FIVE.

THIS APPROACH WOULD SAVE 2.2 MILLION IN PAYROLL AND ABOUT 800 K IN BUILDING COSTS, AVOID MULTIPLE REZONING EVENTS, AND MAKE BETTER USE OF BOND DOLLARS AND PLANNING TIMELINES.

IT'S A MORE EFFICIENT, LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

REGARDING NEW TECH @ COPPELL.

THE COMMITTEE HAD ROBUST DISCUSSIONS AND CONSIDERED VARIOUS OPTIONS, INCLUDING KEEPING NEW TECH AS IT IS, MOVING IT INTO CHS AS A SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL, OR CLOSING IT ENTIRELY.

NEW TECH OFFERS GREAT INTEGRATED PROJECT-BASED LEARNING IN A SMALL SCHOOL SETTING THAT MANY STUDENTS PREFER.

WHILE MOVING IT COULD SAVE UP TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS, THERE ARE STRONG EDUCATIONAL BENEFITS THAT WARRANT THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.

TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS RATED A FIVE, WHICH CORRELATED TO CLOSING NEW TECH.

FIFTEEN MEMBERS VOTED TO MOVE NEW TECH INTO CHS AS A SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL, KNOWING THAT A STRATEGIC PLAN ALIGNED WITH THE REBRANDING WOULD NEED TO OCCUR TO HELP CAMPUS SUCCEED.

TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS VOTED A FOUR OUT OF FIVE, WHICH IS BETWEEN CLOSING NEW TECH AND CREATING A NEW SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL.

THREE MEMBERS RANKED THE OPTION AS A TWO OUT OF FIVE BETWEEN KEEPING NEW TECH AS IT IS, WITH THE REBRANDING, AND MOVING IT INTO CHS, ALSO WITH REBRANDING IN PLACE.

THE COMMITTEE OVERWHELMINGLY PRIORITIZED STAFF RAISES WITH A 3% COSTING ABOUT 3.15 MILLION.

SOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS FELT THAT RAISES HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH INFLATION.

THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE AGREED THAT A FAIR COMPENSATION IS CRITICAL TO RETAIN GREAT EDUCATORS, ALIGNING WITH OUR CORE VALUE OF GREAT TEACHING.

AS ONE TEACHER SHARED, WE LOVE THE KIDS, BUT THEY CAN'T FEED US.

NINETEEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS RANKED A FIVE OUT OF FIVE, THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR RAISES.

ONE MEMBER EACH VOTED FOR FOUR OUT OF FIVE, THREE OUT OF FIVE, AND TWO OUT OF FIVE.

WE EVALUATED ABOVE AND BEYOND ELEMENTARY PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED BUT DO ENHANCE LEARNING.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS REQUIRES THAT EACH DISTRICT TEACH THE TEXAS ESSENTIAL KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS, OR TEKS, WHICH IS THE STANDARD FOR THE CURRICULUM.

THOSE STANDARDS INCLUDE SPECIFIC MINUTES FOR PHYSICAL EDUCATION.

THE STATE DOES NOT REQUIRE ART, MUSIC, OR STEAM INSTRUCTION.

WHILE THESE PROGRAMS ADD VALUE AND ATTRACT FAMILIES, BUDGET CONSTRAINTS REQUIRE US TO CONSIDER WHETHER THESE PROGRAMS ARE FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG TERM.

NINE COMMITTEE MEMBERS RATED ONE OUT OF FIVE, SIGNALING TO LEAVE ELEMENTARY PROGRAMS AS THEY ARE.

SEVEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS RANKED THIS A TWO OUT OF FIVE, TWO MEMBERS MARKED THEIR THRESHOLD AT A THREE OUT OF FIVE, WHILE ONE MARKED IT AS A FOUR OUT OF FIVE, AND THREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE AT A FIVE OUT OF FIVE, SIGNALING THEY HAD A STRONGER THRESHOLD TO ELIMINATE A PROGRAM.

SECONDARY PROGRAMS, INCLUDING LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH, AND OTHER ELECTIVES WITH SMALL CLASS SIZES, WERE ALSO REVIEWED.

THE FOCUS WAS ON ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, PROGRAM VALUE, AND COST EFFECTIVENESS, ESPECIALLY FOR PROGRAMS WITH SMALLER CLASS SIZES.

LIKE THE ELEMENTARY STUDENT FACING PROGRAMS, THERE WAS A RANGE OF ACCEPTANCE FOR MAINTAINING OR ELIMINATING A PROGRAM.

NINE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MARKED THAT THEY HAD AN ACCEPTANCE THRESHOLD TO ELIMINATE A PROGRAM.

FIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS RANKED THIS A FOUR OUT OF FIVE, WHILE FOUR MEMBERS RANKED IT A THREE OUT OF FIVE.

ON THE SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM TO MAINTAIN PROGRAMS, ONE MEMBER RANKED THIS A TWO OUT OF FIVE, WHILE THREE MARKED IT AS A ONE OUT OF FIVE.

THIS RECOMMENDATION AND SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS CENTERED AROUND NON-INSTRUCTIONAL ROLES AND PROFESSIONAL LEARNING, LIKE PLC TIME.

THE SECONDARY SCHEDULING COMMITTEE PRESENTED TO THE CERC ON OPTIONS RELATED TO CAMPUS PLC WORK.

WHILE NOT IN THE CLASSROOM, THESE ROLES AND PROGRAMS DO SUPPORT INSTRUCTION.

THE COMMITTEE RECOGNIZED THEIR VALUE BUT DISCUSSED POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS OR RESTRUCTURING PROGRAMS TO REDUCE COST.

TEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS MARKED THAT THE SECONDARY SCHEDULING COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION OF ADJUSTING PLC TIME IS ACCEPTABLE.

AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, THREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FELT THAT THE SUPPORT PROGRAMS AND STAFF SHOULD STAY AT HOW THEY ARE TODAY.

THE COMMITTEE EXPLORED CHARGING FOR GENERAL EDUCATION TRANSPORTATION WITH EXCEPTIONS FOR REQUIRED RIDERS AND FAMILIES IN NEED.

TRANSPORTATION IS REQUIRED FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS AND SPECIFIC STUDENTS THAT QUALIFY FOR TRANSPORTATION.

AT ONE END OF THE SPECTRUM, THIS OPTION WOULD REMOVE ALL NON-REQUIRED TRANSPORTATION, AND FAMILIES COULD ELECT TO PAY TO RIDE.

A $500 ANNUAL PASS COULD GENERATE UP TO 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN NET REVENUE.

THE MAJORITY OF MEMBERS SUPPORTED A PAY-TO-RIDE MODEL WITH PROVISIONS FOR EQUITY AND A FAMILY MAXIMUM.

OUR CLASS SIZES AT ALL LEVELS.

THE NEXT OPTION CONSIDERED WAS CLASS SIZES.

THE RANGE DISCUSSED WAS BETWEEN KEEPING CLASS SIZES AS THEY ARE AND INCREASING CLASS SIZES.

THERE WERE A RANGE OF ACCEPTABLE THRESHOLD RANKINGS, WITH THE MAJORITY SUPPORTING KEEPING CLASSES AT THE CURRENT LEVEL.

ANOTHER POSSIBLE OPTION CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE WAS SHUTTLES BETWEEN THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE SUPPORTED EXPLORING A PAY-TO-RIDE OPTION FOR SHUTTLES IF THEY ARE MAINTAINED.

THERE WAS LITTLE SUPPORT FOR CONTINUING FREE SHUTTLES WITHOUT A PAY-TO-RIDE STRUCTURE.

CURRENTLY, OPEN ENROLLMENT ADDS ABOUT 1.5-1.8 MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE WITHOUT REQUIRING MORE STAFF.

MANY QUESTION WHETHER THIS MODEL BENEFITS CISD IN THE LONG TERM.

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OPEN ENROLLMENT EXPANSION RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT STUDENT INTEGRATION, WITH STUDENTS OFTEN LACKING NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS.

FINANCIALLY, STATE FUNDING MIGHT NOT FULLY COVER THE COST OF EACH OPEN-ENROLLMENT STUDENT, LEADING TO A NET LOSS FOR THE DISTRICT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD AGREE TO LEAVE THE PROGRAM AS IT IS TODAY.

PINKERTON. THE PINKERTON BUILDING SITS ON ABOUT 500 K SQUARE FEET, AND THE BROKER'S OPINION OF VALUE IS BETWEEN 3.8 AND 10.8 MILLION, DEPENDING UPON ZONING.

THIS EVALUATION INCLUDES THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS OF ZONING, LOCATION, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, COMPARABLE SALES COMPS, ETC, IN THE AREA.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONE C COMMERCIAL.

THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED PREDOMINANTLY FOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES OF SERVICE NATURE.

THIS USE ENCOMPASSES ALL OFFICE AND RETAIL DISTRICT USES, WHILE INCLUDING COMMUNICATION, BROADCASTING, AUTOMOBILE, AND OTHER SERVICE BUSINESSES.

THE BROCK BUILDING CURRENTLY HOUSES 60 PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE SPECIAL EDUCATION DEPARTMENT STAFF OF 47, CRISIS COUNSELORS, THREE OF THEM, AND CNI STAFF, AT 10.

THEY CONDUCT SOME TESTING OF STUDENTS IN THE BUILDING, AND THERE IS A LARGE RECORDS ROOM FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION, AS WELL AS A LOT OF STORAGE SPACE UTILIZED.

THERE ARE SOME TRAINING SPACES AS WELL, AND THE OLD SERVICE CENTER IS USED FOR STORAGE.

RECOMMENDATIONS. BASED ON THE INPUT AND FEEDBACK FROM THE CERC AT THE FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025 MEETING AND THE CISD CABINET AT THE MARCH 27TH, 2025 MEETING.

THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION IS PRESENTED TO ADDRESS THE USE OF THE PINKERTON FACILITY AND LAND.

FOR THE 2025-2026 SCHOOL YEAR, THE PINKERTON BUILDING COULD BE REPURPOSED TO HOUSE STAFF CURRENTLY AT BROCK, SERVE AS A CENTRALIZED TRAINING AND MEETING SPACE, OFFER FACILITY RENTALS, AND LEASE PART OF THE BUILDING TO THE YMCA FOR EMPLOYEE DAYCARE.

THIS PLAN WOULD PROVIDE BUILDING OVERSIGHT, SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, GENERATE REVENUE, AND RETAIN THE LAND FOR FUTURE DISTRICT USE, WHILE ALSO RELIEVING SPACE PRESSURE AT CMS WEST.

HOWEVER, IT WOULD REQUIRE REPURPOSING FURNITURE AND TECHNOLOGY, CONTINUED MAINTENANCE COSTS, AND COULD LIMIT FUTURE FLEXIBILITY IF A DAYCARE IS ESTABLISHED.

>> I'LL JUST INTERJECT BECAUSE I DO GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND PINKERTON.

WHAT IS OUR PLAN AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, AND THAT IS STILL A DISTRICT FACILITY, AND STILL IT'S NO LONGER A DISTRICT FACILITY.

WITH WHAT SHANE SAID, WITH BROCK STILL BEING USED BY ALMOST 60 PEOPLE ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING THE EXTERIOR, THE GROUNDS.

WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO LET THAT BUILDING SIT THERE.

THERE WAS JUST SOME CONCERN, I THINK, BECAUSE OF HOW THE DAIRY QUEEN LOOKS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPARISON WITH THE DAIRY QUEEN.

I JUST TOLD THAT COMMUNITY, WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT UNTIL IT'S NO LONGER A CISD RESPONSIBILITY.

I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD FOR THAT.

>> IN 2026-2027, THE PINKERTON BUILDING COULD BE USED TO TEMPORARILY HOUSE STUDENTS FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL UNDERGOING MAJOR RENOVATIONS, WITH PORTABLES ADDED IF NEEDED, WHILE CONTINUING USES FROM 2025 AND 2026 IF SPACE ALLOWS.

THIS APPROACH MAINTAINS REVENUE FROM RENTAL AND DAYCARE AND SUPPORTS DISTRICT TRAINING NEEDS, BUT MAY LIMIT FACILITY AVAILABILITY, REQUIRED SHARED RESOURCES, AND REDUCE DAYTIME RENTAL OPTIONS.

BEYOND 2027-2028, THE BUILDING AND LAND SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN LONG-RANGE FACILITY PLANNING.

EACH OF THESE OPTIONS BALANCE A SHORT-TERM FLEXIBILITY WITH LONG-TERM VALUE FOR THE DISTRICT.

WE WOULD WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE CERC PROCESS AND RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED TONIGHT.

>> DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHANE OR ANGELA, OR JOHN, [LAUGHTER] WHO IS HANGING OUT WITH US ON THE SCREEN? I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW CHAIRING A GROUP IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES, AND FOR YOU AND JOHN, BOTH FOR STEPPING UP AND SERVING OUR DISTRICT. THANK Y'ALL.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I WOULD JUST ASK AS SOMEBODY, JOBBY AND I WERE THE BOARD LIAISONS, AS YOU TWO KNOW, BUT THE COMMUNITY MAY NOT KNOW, AND WE WERE CAREFUL NOT TO VOTE OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS WHILE WE WERE THERE BECAUSE WE'LL GET OUR SAY AT ANOTHER TIME.

BUT THERE WAS REALLY ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PINKERTON BROCK PROPERTY.

WOULD YOU GUYS SHARE SOME OF THE OTHER IDEAS THAT WERE THROWN AROUND THAT NIGHT, BECAUSE IT WAS A LONGER LIST, I THINK, THAN WHAT WE HAVE TYPICALLY SEEN.

>> DO YOU WANT TO SHARE, OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO?

>> YOU CAN START.

>> I'LL START. [LAUGHTER] JOHN, FEEL FREE TO PIPE IN, TOO.

>> SURE.

>> A LOT OF THE PIECES THAT WERE DISCUSSED ARE, SHOULD WE SELL THE BUILDING, SHOULD WE MAINTAIN THE BUILDING, AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT SELLING THE BUILDING,

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THEN WHO WOULD WE SELL IT TO? WHAT CONTROL WOULD WE HAVE? THEN, ONCE WE SELL IT, COULD IT THEN BE RESOLD FOR SOMETHING ELSE? THERE WAS ACTUALLY ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND THAT TOPIC, AND THAT WAS OF GREAT CONCERN.

WE'VE FELT MAINTAINING THAT BUILDING AT THIS POINT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE INTERESTS WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RENT IT, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF.

WE DO HAVE THE YMCA THAT IS INTERESTED.

WE'RE STILL IN VERY BEGINNING NEGOTIATION STAGES OF THAT.

THEY WANT TO POSSIBLY RENT IT FOR AN EMPLOYEE DAYCARE PROGRAM.

THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER GROUPS THAT WOULD LIKE TO RENT IT, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR STUDENTS.

WE THINK THAT IN THE LONG RUN, THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE CONVERSATION CAME AROUND TO, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IF YOU SELL THE PROPERTY, YOU GET A ONE-TIME BENEFIT INFLUX OF MONEY, BUT IN THE LONG TERM, IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL, SO IF WE KEEP IT AND WE'RE EARNING INCOME, THEN IT WILL ALLOW US TO GAIN MORE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN, SO DON'T GO FOR THE SHORT GAIN QUICKLY.

>> JOHN, DO YOU MIND MUTING YOUR MICROPHONE?

>> HE MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK.

>> UNLESS YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

>> NO PROBLEM, SORRY. [LAUGHTER]

>> IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, GO AHEAD.

>> JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?

>> NO. JUST THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH ANGELA, THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS SUPER INTERESTED IN THINKING LONG TERM, AND THE BIG CONCERN WAS JUST THAT THE WRONG BUSINESS COULD MOVE IN THERE, HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY.

WE THOUGHT AS THE VALUE WOULD LIKELY APPRECIATE OVER TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH RENOVATIONS IN THE HOPPER THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM, THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT THAT THAT FACILITY COULD DO FOR US, BESIDES SIMPLY SERVE AS THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

>> ONE THING THAT WAS VERY MUCH CONSIDERED WAS WE HAD BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE COST OF PORTABLES FOR VALLEY RANCH ELEMENTARY AND HOW THAT ALL WORKED FOR THEM, AND IF PINKERTON WAS CLOSED AS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND IF WE HAD ANOTHER SCHOOL THAT WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH A VERY SIMILAR RENOVATION, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE ABLE TO MIGRATE THAT SCHOOL'S POPULATION INTO PINKERTON, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT SAVE US NOT ONLY IN PORTABLE COSTS, BUT ALSO IN TIME, OF THE RENOVATION, AND WHAT WOULD THAT DO FOR OUR BOND DOLLARS? THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES THAT WERE CONSIDERED AS FAR AS WHAT WE COULD DO WITH PINKERTON AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO FOR OUR DISTRICT AND HOW THAT SUPPORTS OUR STUDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES MORE LONG TERM, AS OPPOSED TO LOSING THAT PROPERTY, HAVING A SHORT TERM GAIN AND NOT BEING ABLE TO REALLY CONTROL WHAT THOSE PINKERTON FAMILIES WHO LIVE RIGHT THERE, WHAT THEY EXPERIENCE FROM THIS PROCESS.

>> THANKS FOR ELABORATING, YOU GUYS.

I THINK IT WAS ALMOST AN ENTIRE MEETING.

>> IT WAS.

>> THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.

>> BUT I THINK IT TURNED OUT SOME VERY ROBUST INNOVATIVE IDEAS IN THE LAST ONE YOU JUST MENTIONED AS WELL, THAT MY THOUGHT HAS ALWAYS BEEN [NOISE] REAL ESTATE IS THE ONE THING YOU CAN'T GET BACK., EXCEPT AT A COST.

HAVING SOME IDEAS WE CAN USE FOR THE BUILDING AND PROPERTY IS GREAT.

>> BEFORE WE GET INTO ANY MORE QUESTIONS HERE, AS A [INAUDIBLE] ALSO AS A BOARD REP. THEN WE'LL SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU.

IT WAS VERY DETAILED AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS TO PROCESS, AND THE COMMITMENT TO STAY THROUGH ALL THE MEETINGS AND HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS WAS VERY HELPFUL TO US IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

[INAUDIBLE] TOOK A HALF A STEP BACK BECAUSE SOMETIMES THIS STUFF GETS BURIED IN THE LEAD ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF THE CRT COMMITTEE, I THINK ANGELA, YOU TOUCHED ON IT BRIEFLY ABOUT THE REPRESENTATION.

COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S HOW LEVEL SET BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THE COMMITTEE ITSELF AND WHO IS A PART OF IT.

>> IF YOU REMEMBER, WE TOOK APPLICATIONS AND THEN ANYONE WHO MARKED THAT THEY WANTED TO BE ON THAT RECEIVED AN INVITATION THAT WAS ABOUT 50 INDIVIDUALS.

WE HAD 43 OF THOSE WHO ENDED UP SAYING YES, AND THEY COULD ATTEND THOSE SESSIONS.

THEN OF THE 43, I CAN FIND THAT SLIDE, SO I CAN TELL YOU THE RIGHT NUMBERS BECAUSE I WON'T REMEMBER THEM, I'M SORRY.

BECAUSE I CAN LOOK AT MY THING TOO [LAUGHTER].

LET ME DO THIS WAY. WE HAD 23 PARENTS.

WE HAD 11 STAFF MEMBERS, WE HAD FOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE ALL OVER 65, WE HAD TWO STUDENTS AND TWO BOARD MEMBERS, AND THEN WE HAD ONE FUTURE PARENT.

IT DIDN'T CURRENTLY HAVE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT WE'LL HAVE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

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IT WAS A ROBUST AND IT DID REPRESENT ALL THE CAMPUSES EXCEPT FOR VICTORY PLACE.

WE TRIED TO FIND THAT, BUT DIDN'T GET THERE, THAT ONE BECAUSE OF THE TURNOVER, IT WAS HARD TO GET THAT ONE.

BUT WE DID HAVE REPRESENTATION.

WE TRIED TO GET REPRESENTATION FROM ALL ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BUILD THAT IN.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE ORIGINAL 711 PROCESS WAS GREAT, BUT WE ARE A DISTRICT OF GROWTH MINDSET.

WE TOOK THE FEEDBACK AND INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE PROCESS AND EXPANDED WHO WAS ON THIS COMMITTEE AND REALLY TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND INPUT AND HAD MORE VOICES AT THE TABLE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, THE PINKERTON UTILIZATION OF FINDING INCOME STREAMS.

>> I LOVE THOSE IDEAS BECAUSE WE HAVE A SPACE WHERE THE COST, YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR TO GET THE VALUE.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSOLIDATION OF OTHER SPACES? WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATION AROUND UTILIZATION OF THOSE SPACES IF THEY WERE CONSOLIDATED?

>> YES. IF THE DISTRICT DECIDED TO CONSOLIDATE ONE OR TWO OTHER CAMPUSES, WE COULD FEEL LIKE THE CRT COMMITTEE DID A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING FOR SOME OPTIONS THAT COULD BE MOVED FORWARD FOR OTHER FACILITIES.

YOU WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THAT SPECIFIC FACILITY THOUGH.

SOME FACILITIES LEND THEMSELVES TO SOME OPTIONS OVER OTHERS, BUT THERE IS SUCH ROBUST DISCUSSION THAT WITH LOTS OF GREAT OPTIONS, A PLAN COULD BE DEVELOPED USING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S FOR HOUSING STUDENTS FOR RENOVATIONS.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT, HOW THAT WOULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY, THE RENTAL PIECE.

OUR FACILITIES ARE BEING USED ALMOST 24/7.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT, ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES ARE BEING USED ON THE WEEKENDS.

THERE ARE GROUPS THAT OFFER GREAT THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE SPACE.

WE DON'T HAVE SPACE RIGHT NOW.

IT COULD ALLOW US TO EXPAND, AND SOME GREAT OFFERINGS TO OUR STUDENTS.

IT ALLOW US TO EXPAND THAT.

WE WOULD LOVE FOR THE EMPLOYEE DAYCARE WITH THE YMCA TO WORK OUT.

WE'RE PUSHING FOR IT, WE'RE WORKING HARD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

BUT NO MATTER WHAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE COULD WORK WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BENEFIT OUR STAFF AND OUR FAMILIES IN THIS DISTRICT.

I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT CAME OUT FROM THE CRT COMMITTEE, IS FINDING WAYS TO, HOW CAN WE MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, HOW CAN WE GENERATE REVENUE FROM THE PROPERTY OR FIND BENEFIT FROM THE PROPERTY? I THINK WE CAN USE THAT SAME MODEL MOVING FORWARD.

>> GREAT.

>> I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, SHANE, JOHN, ANGELA, AND THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE.

THERE IS A LOT OF BRAINSTORMING.

WE CAN SEE EACH SLIDE REPRESENTS OPTIONS, AND I THINK WITH 1-5, IT GIVES MORE, I'M NOT TWO, NOT THREE, BUT MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S GREAT, AND ALL THE OPTIONS THAT CAME WITH EACH OF THE SLIDE, I THINK THEY'RE VERY WELL THOUGHT THROUGH. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK AND FOR DEALING WITH A LOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ELEPHANTS YOU CAN HAVE IN THE ROOM, BUT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT ALL THE ELEPHANTS [LAUGHTER].

WE NEED TO HAVE EYES WIDE OPEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS STUFF.

THANK YOU FOR STARTING THAT PROCESS.

I WOULD THANK YOU.

I'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY WHEN PEOPLE SAY, "WELL, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST TIME?" I APPRECIATE THAT GROWTH MINDSET.

I REALLY WOULD ECHO THAT I REALLY LIKE SEEING THE SCALE OF THAT.

I HOPE IT FEELS LIKE THIS WAS AN ITERATIVE IMPROVEMENT FROM THE FIRST.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AND THAT I'VE WONDERED ABOUT, ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT FORWARD.

FOR INSTANCE, FIRST THING THAT I THINK OF IS, OUR KIDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL ARE TAKING EIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE EIGHT OUT OF EIGHT CLASSES.

THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I STARTED ON THE BOARD WHEN YOU CAN HAVE SEVEN OUT OF EIGHT.

I KNOW THERE ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BUDGET THINGS ATTACHED TO THAT.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT ONE? THEN ALSO, HOW DID YOU DECIDE WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS TO BRING FORWARD?

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I'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

>> I'LL START, AND THEN SHANE OR JOHN, Y'ALL CAN JUMP IN WHENEVER YOU FEEL. WE DID.

IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO THE PROCESS THAT SHANE TALKED ABOUT.

REMEMBER FOR ALL OF THESE OPTIONS, THERE WAS A COMMITTEE THAT DID COMMITTEE WORK FIRST.

THEY STUDIED, THEY DID RESEARCH, AND THEN THEY BROUGHT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT COMMITTEE.

THERE'S A WHOLE SCHEDULING COMMITTEE MADE UP OF STAFF MEMBERS, OF ADMINISTRATORS, OF PARENTS, THAT LOOKED AT SCHEDULING OPTIONS.

SEVEN OF EIGHT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LOOKED AT. BLOCK SCHEDULE.

THEY LOOKED AT LOTS OF DIFFERENT PIECES IN THERE, AND THEN THEY CAME AND SPOKE TO THE CRT COMMITTEE AND BROUGHT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SECONDARY STUDENT FACING PROGRAM AND THEN THE DISTRICT STAFF SUPPORT PROGRAM, IT FALLS UNDERNEATH THERE.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE PIECES, ONE OF THOSE LEVERS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.

YOU'LL HEAR LATER IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT, DR. BROOKS AND DIANA SIRCAR, AND MYSELF WILL GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THAT TONIGHT, AND YOU'LL HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE SOME OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED SO HEAVILY.

>> WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT'S WITHIN THAT SECONDARY SPACE, SO WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

TWO MORE THINGS, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

I WOULD AGREE WITH PRESIDENT CAVINESS ON WHAT I HEARD AROUND THE TABLE WHEN I'M GLAD TO SEE WITH PINKERTON.

I STILL THINK OF KEEPING THAT LAND, BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE CAN'T EVER BUY BACK, ESPECIALLY FOR WHATEVER WE BOUGHT THAT PINKERTON LAND FOR BACK IN THE DAY.

I THINK TWO HORSES [LAUGHTER].

I THINK WE ALL STILL REMEMBER WHERE CANYON RANCH SITS NOW, THAT THAT WAS OPEN FOR A VERY LONG TIME AFTER THE SIGN THAT SAID VALLEY RANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL COMING SOON.

TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE BOARDS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THAT WAS AFFIRMED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE.

I THINK MY WRAP UP QUESTION IS, AS THIS SEGUES MAYBE TO THE NEXT PART IS, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO YOU DIVE INTO ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AS IS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED. NOW WHAT?

>> I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT [LAUGHTER].

THAT IS A PERFECT SEE INTO THE NEXT PART.

WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE CRT COMMITTEE DID.

AS YOU SHARED, THE CRT COMMITTEE, THEY HAD TO TACKLE EVERY ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND THEY WENT IN THOUGHTFULLY, ROBUST DEEP CONVERSATIONS WITH LOTS OF VIEWPOINTS, AND I THINK HAVE GIVEN US THEIR THRESHOLD OF ACCEPTANCE FOR SOME OF THESE OPTIONS.

REALLY, WE'VE TAKEN THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO LAY OUT, AS DR. HUNT SHARED EARLIER ON THE AGENDA, THE MULTI YEAR BALANCED BUDGET PLAN.

HOW CAN WE TAKE THESE OPTIONS THAT THE CRT COMMITTEE HAS SAID YES, OR WE DON'T HAVE A ACCEPTANCE THRESHOLD OF THIS? WE DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THERE.

HOW DO WE TAKE THAT BALANCE WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN A TOP TIER SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN THAT? HOW DO WE DO THAT AND HAVE A THOUGHTFUL PLAN? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO LAY THAT OUT FOR YOU NEXT.

>> IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WE'LL LET VICE PRESIDENT BENTLEY [INAUDIBLE].

>> WELL, THANK YOU, DR. HUNT.

>> I'M GOING TO KEEP [OVERLAPPING].

>> THANK YOU, SHANE AND JOHN [APPLAUSE].

>> [INAUDIBLE] MEMBERS AND ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS?

>> YES. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THE LEGISLATURE,

[V.B. Legislative Update - Nichole Bentley, Vice President, Board of Trustees]

AS EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE KNOWS, AND THE REALITY IS WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

EVEN THOUGH THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT WRAP UP UNTIL JUNE, IF THINGS DON'T GET PUT ON COMMITTEE AGENDAS THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK, BILLS WILL PROBABLY DIE IN THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE AND NOT MOVE FORWARD.

THE ONE I'M GOING TO LEAD WITH ON THAT IS HOUSE BILL 2.

IF YOU RECALL, THE SENATE SENT A BILL OVER TO THE HOUSE REGARDING PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING.

WHILE THE GOVERNOR CONSIDERED VOUCHER FUNDING AN EMERGENCY MEASURE, PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING WAS NOT CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY MEASURE.

THE HOUSE MODIFIED THE BILL THAT CAME FROM THE SENATE, THE [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE DID, AND REALLY FOCUSED MORE ON AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE, FUNDING AND BASIC ALLOTMENT THAN THE ORIGINAL SENATE BILL DID.

A COUPLE OF THINGS; THE SENATE HAS NOW HAD THE HOUSE BILL SINCE MID APRIL, SO ALMOST A MONTH.

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IT STILL HAS NOT MADE IT ON THE SENATE ED COMMITTEE'S AGENDA, HAS NOT COME OUT OF CALENDAR.

THE RUMOR IS THAT THAT A LOT OF WORD-SMITHING IS GOING ON BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE RIGHT NOW.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HEARD.

IT MAY EVEN BE HEARD THIS FRIDAY, IS THE LATEST RUMOR THAT I HEARD TODAY THAT IT MAY ACTUALLY BE HEARD THIS FRIDAY, BUT NOBODY HAS SEEN ANY DRAFT LANGUAGE.

THE SPECULATION IS THAT MORE OF THE BASIC ALLOTMENT HAS BEEN BACKED OUT OF IT AND THE FUNDING THAT'S BEING FOCUSED ON IS RELATED TO SPECIAL EDUCATION AND TEACHER COMPENSATION.

THEY ONLY HAVE TO GIVE 24-HOUR NOTICE BEFORE A COMMITTEE DECIDES TO HEAR IT.

I WOULD SUSPECT, CONSIDERING HOW MUCH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT ON THIS MATTER, THAT IT MAY ONLY BE A 24-HOUR NOTICE THAT WE ALL GET.

IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO REACH OUT TO THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET IT OUT OF CALENDAR, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR BILLS TO DIE, AND HOPEFULLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SINCE $8 BILLION IS SITTING THERE.

IT WOULD ALSO BE GREAT FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE, THE SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY, AND TELL THEM WHAT OUR COMMUNITY VALUES.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ACTION, THOSE WOULD BE GREAT ACTION ITEMS.

>> THE SENATE PUB E COMMITTEE, WHILE THEY ARE NOT HEARING HB2, THEY ARE HEARING 10 OTHER BILLS THIS WEEK.

[LAUGHTER] NOT RELATED TO ANYTHING FUNDING.

THERE ARE THINGS LIKE A STATE WIDE GPA SYSTEM, A PARENTAL RIGHTS BILL, BILLS ABOUT SEAT BELTS ON BUSES GOING FROM A TWO POINT SYSTEM TO A THREE POINT HARNESS SYSTEM IF DISTRICTS CAN AFFORD IT.

IT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE TO REACH OUT AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET TO THE THING THAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO GET TO A VOUCHERS PASSED.

WE ALL KNOW THIS AROUND THE TABLE, BUT JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY, THERE ARE A LOT OF LAST MINUTE BILLS THAT HAPPEN.

THE RUMOR IS THEY ARE PLANNING ON GOING TILL MIDNIGHT, THURSDAY, AND FRIDAY NIGHT TO GET A BUNCH OF BILLS OUT OF THE HOUSE WHILE THEY STILL HAVE TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE ON A TIME CRUNCH.

THE THING THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IS ADDENDUMS GET ATTACHED TO RANDOM BILLS THAT MAY NOT BE RELATED TO EDUCATION, AND WE END UP WITH STRANGE FUNDING MANDATES OR SOME WEIRD NEW RULE THAT SOMEBODY IS REALLY NOT THOUGHT THROUGH.

AGAIN, ALL OF US, I KNOW AROUND THE TABLE ARE ENGAGED, BUT I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY IF WE ONLY HAD ONE THING HAPPEN, FUNDING FOR OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS THE THING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND THE THING THAT CAN MOST SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE NEXT CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AROUND THIS TABLE ABOUT BUDGETS.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, I LOVE DOCTOR HUNT'S ANALOGY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING A SCHOOL WE'RE NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RECORD.

ON THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IF YOU'RE JUST NOW TUNING IN, YOU'RE PUTTING THE NEEDLE DOWN PART WAY THROUGH THE RECORD.

BUT WE'VE NOT HAD A FUNDING INCREASE IN PUBLIC EDUCATION SINCE 2019, AND INFLATION ALONE HAS BEEN 20% AS OF LAST NOVEMBER.

EVEN IF WE GOT WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR, WHICH DOES NOT LOOK LIKELY, IT JUST MAKES US WHOLE AND DOESN'T EVEN MAKE US WHOLE ON THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE'VE HAD TO SPEND.

VERY SIMPLY, IF YOU ONLY DID ONE THING, REACH OUT AND ASK THEM TO GET THIS BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE AND REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY ON THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE OF THE SENATE AND ASK THEM TO STICK WITH BASIC ALLOTMENT AND AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE FUNDING AND GET OUT OF THESE FUNDING BUCKETS THAT I AM PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHERE THE CONVERSATION HAS COME APART AND WHY THINGS HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD.

BUT THE EARLY RUNS THAT WE'VE SEEN, THE BUCKET FUNDING IS NOT AS BENEFICIAL TO US AS AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE WOULD BE, AND OBVIOUSLY THE BUCKET SYSTEM OF FUNDING HAS A LOT MORE RESTRICTIONS AND WE'RE ASKING TO HAVE LOCAL CONTROL.

>> I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO SPECULATIVE, BUT I HAVE MY STOMACH IS BURNING RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LEGISLATIVE SESSION WHERE THERE WAS NO FUNDING.

I KNOW WE CAN'T KNOW EVERYTHING, BUT IS THERE A CHANCE THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE NO FUNDING OR WHAT'S THE WORD ON THE STREET IN THAT REGARD?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH NO FUNDING.

I THINK WE MAY END UP AND THIS IS ALL PURELY SPECULATIVE.

I THINK WE MAY END UP SAYING THANK YOU FOR CRUMBS THAT ARE VASTLY INSUFFICIENT.

I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY BE TELLING IS IF THE SENATE CALENDAR COMMITTEE DOES NOT GET THIS TO A COMMITTEE BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND, THEN WE ARE IN MORE SERIOUS JEOPARDY OF THIS

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NOT GOING ANYWHERE WITH EVERYBODY POINTING FINGERS AT EACH OTHER, SAYING, "WE REACHED AN IMPASSE BECAUSE WE COULDN'T AGREE ON VERBIAGE OR WE COULDN'T AGREE ON BUCKETS VERSUS AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.

I HATE THAT WE'RE IN THIS WAIT MODE THROUGH THIS WEEK, BUT WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CAN KILL THIS IN COMMITTEE AND HOLD IT UP AND NOBODY WOULD REALLY HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE IT NEVER CAME TO OUR COMMITTEE.

WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.

I THINK THIS WEEK'S GOING TO BE VERY TELLING IF THERE'S NO MOVEMENT THIS WEEK AND NOTHING GETS ON THEIR COMMITTEE AGENDA, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED THAT THERE MAY NOT BE ANYTHING COMING FORWARD.

IT'S VERY SPECULATIVE, AND I HATE TO SAY THAT.

BUT NOBODY THOUGHT THEY WOULD DO IT LAST BY AEM, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED LAST BY AEM.

THIS TIME WE WERE TOLD THAT VOUCHERS GOT MOVED FORWARD.

WE WERE GOING TO GET FUNDING.

IT'S BEEN A MONTH. NOTHING'S HAPPENED.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A HIGH DEGREE OF TRUST BUILT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS TO TRUST THAT THIS IS ALL GOING TO GO THE WAY THAT WE WOULD HOPE.

I'M STILL CROSSING MY FINGERS AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO PUT ON A FULL COURT PRESS THIS WEEK FOR THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE TO GET IT ON AN AGENDA.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> I KNOW THERE WAS A BILL ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR TECH SCHOOLS AND THEN NEW TECH, WE GET $50 ADDITION PER KID FOR NEW TECH, AND, IS THAT ONE ALREADY DONE AND OUT?

>> IT HAS NOT GONE TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK YET, BUT IT HAS MOVED FORWARD OUT OF COMMITTEE.

>> IT'S LATE ON THAT ONE.

>> IT'S TOO LATE ON THAT ONE TO CHANGE WHERE IT MIGHT END UP.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THOSE ARE THE LITTLE THINGS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

YOU THINK IT'S SOME SMALL THING AND IT'S $50 PER KID.

BUT ALL THESE LITTLE CUTS START TO REALLY ADD UP TO SIGNIFICANT MONEY.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. I WISH IT WAS WE GOT $1,500 PER KID ON OUR DAILY ALLOTMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE REALITY WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW.

>> WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR HEAVY INVOLVEMENT.

ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I FELT LIKE WE'VE REALLY MADE AN IMPRESSION.

I THINK ALSO THAT'S SOME OF THE REASON WHY WE GET SOME, NEGATIVE ATTENTION TOO, BUT I DO THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS MAKING THEIR VOICES HEARD DOWN IN AUSTIN, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> IT IS.

>> I THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO DRIVE THAT WORK IN EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO HAS PARTICIPATED.

>> A HUNDRED PERCENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> THEN I WANT TO ASK MISS KARR,

[V.C. 2025-2026 Budget Workshop - Diana Sircar (Chief Financial Officer) (SPG 1) (FOS)]

OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER TO COME TO THE TABLE AS WE TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET PLANNING AND LOOKING AT IT LONG TERM AND LONG RANGE.

AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT SLIDE FROM THE NEXT SLIDE, I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, WHAT DOCTOR BROOKS IS COMING AS WELL AND THEN KRISTEN NICHEL WILL BE HERE IN A MOMENT.

I THINK ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WORKED WELL LAST TIME OR ANYTIME THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR BUDGET WORK IS HEAVY BOARD INVOLVEMENT AND SIGNIFICANT INPUT FROM YOU ALL AND DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THAT TONIGHT AS WE CONTINUE OUR WORK REGARDING OUR BUDGET, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT A BALANCED BUDGET, WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS? WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES? WHAT CAN YOU ALL SHARE WITH US AS STAFF MEMBERS SO THAT WE MIGHT CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU ALL ARE ASKING US TO DO AND PROVIDE YOU WITH WHAT YOU NEED, AS WELL AS GIVE OUR STAFF DIRECTION FOR WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THOSE SLIDES, IF EVERY ONE WOULD JUST GIVE A OVERALL SHARE OF THEIR THOUGHTS THAT WOULD HELP US.

>> THIS ONE'S TOUGH FOR ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO GET INTO THE MEAT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AND THEN MAYBE ANSWER THIS QUESTION AT THE END BECAUSE I LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU'LL HAVE PREPARED AND OFFER UP, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE AT THE END.

>> WE WILL. BUT WE'D LIKE TO JUST KNOW TWO IF YOU HAVE JUST JUMPING INTO THIS BEGINNING THOUGHTS AND EXPECTATIONS.

>> PROMPT US A LITTLE MORE ON THAT.

>> LIKE IN WHAT REGARD?

>> ALL OF IT. WE SHARED THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU LAST WEEK, SO YOU'VE SEEN IT.

WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO GET OUT OF TONIGHT? WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO DO WITH THIS WORK? BECAUSE THIS NEXT CHUNK IS GOING TO BE VERY HEAVY AND VERY INVOLVED.

IF IT'S JUST GIVE US THIS INFORMATION, LET US PROCESS SOME MORE, THEN THAT HELPS US.

IF IT'S TO DIVE DEEPER INTO IT, WE'VE GOT TO HELP GUIDE OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONTENT TO SHARE.

>> I HAVE TWO THOUGHTS COMING INTO TONIGHT.

ONE IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION.

BALANCED BUDGET IS REFERRED TO MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PRESENTATION,

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AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO ALL HAVE A COMMON DEFINITION OF WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT.

ARE WE TALKING A NET ZERO BUDGET? WHAT WE USED TO DO ADOPTING A SMALL DEFICIT BUDGET, KNOWING WE WERE GOING TO BREAK EVEN OR BE IN THE BLACK.

THAT'S ONE OF MY THINGS IS I'D LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A COMMON DEFINITION.

>> WHICH THAT'S PERFECT.

THAT RIGHT THERE GIVES A LOT OF DIRECTION AS FAR AS WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING, NOT JUST TONIGHT, BUT BEYOND TONIGHT.

WHEN YOU WANTED SOME PROMPTING THAT'S PERFECT, BUT YOU HAD ANOTHER ONE.

>> THEN I HAD ONE OTHER ONE. AFTER REVIEWING THE PRESENTATION IT'D BE MY HOPE TONIGHT THAT WE COULD ELIMINATE SOME THINGS.

FROM WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SUGGESTING SO THAT WE COULD NARROW THE CONVERSATION.

WE'RE ON WOULDN'T SAY A SHORT TRACK, BUT A SHORT OR TRACK, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE LEGISLATURE YET.

I'M HOPING THAT WE WOULD MAYBE ELIMINATE CONSIDERING A COUPLE OF WHATEVER WE WANT TO ELIMINATE EITHER IN YEAR ONE OR YEAR TWO OF THE PLAN OR THINGS THAT WE REALLY THINK WE FEEL EMPHATIC OR STRONGLY ABOUT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FEEDBACK TO HELP YOU GUYS NARROW DOWN YOUR SCOPE OF WORK.

>> TO PICK UP ON THAT. I THINK THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE WOULD LEAVE HERE TONIGHT WITH THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN AFTER IN THE BUCKETS, IN THE CATEGORIES OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AND THAT OVERALL PLAN TO GET TO IT.

I LIKE YOUR POINT ABOUT ALIGNING.

NOW, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ALIGNING ON DEFICIT VERSUS ZERO BUDGET BALANCE A COMPLETE.

>> JUST A DEFINITION OF WHAT WHAT SAYING ABOUT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT NOW AND THEN SAY, "HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT IS BEFORE WE DO IT," OR IS THAT WE DO WE REVISIT THAT AT THE END OF THIS CONVERSATION OR BEFORE? I'M TRYING TO GET A TIMING ON THAT.

>> MY ONLY THOUGHT IN REVIEWING THE PRESENTATION IS IT'S REFERRED TO MULTIPLE TIMES.

THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE WITH A CERTAIN DEFINITION, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT DEFINITION IS.

THEN WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, YEAH, WE'RE ALL ALIGNED AND ON THE SAME PAGE ALREADY, OR AFTER SEEING IT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

WAS MY THOUGHT.

>> THAT MAKE SENSE. AS WE'RE STEPPING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, WE GET A SENSE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN TO US AND WE CAN REVISIT THAT.

>> WHAT'S OUR TOLERANCE TO ADOPT THE CRCS APPROACH? WHAT'S OUR TOLERANCE FOR THE DIFFERENT WAYS OF ROUGH DEFICIT VERSUS ZERO? YEAH.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> BUT YEAH. BUT TAD, I THINK THE FRAMEWORK AND THE BUCKETS BY WHICH ALL THE DETAIL WORK NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THE GOAL OUT OF THIS.

OTHERWISE, YOU'RE SPINNING YOUR WHEELS ON AN ITEM WHERE YOU WON'T HAVE APPETITE FOR IT LATER.

WE NEED TO ALIGN ON THAT AND GIVE THEM [INAUDIBLE] DIRECTION FOR THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH WHAT NICOLE SAID, AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP US LIKE WHAT IS BALANCE BUDGET? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AND END GOAL.

I'M ALSO CURIOUS TO FIND OUT THAT HOW THE BALANCE BUDGET PLAN IS CONNECTING TO WHAT CRC RECOMMENDED OR OUR STRATEGIC 2030 OR EVEN TO OUR CORE VALUES, THAT HOW ARE WE MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS WHEN WE ARE PROPOSING SOMETHING BUDGET WISE.

>> YEAH, CHEST BENTLEY.

I LIKE THE WAY YOU TALKS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE BALANCE IS IMPORTANT.

THE OTHER THING IS THE ACADEMIC OUTCOMES AND STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THAT ALIGNMENT BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT BEING A HIGH PERFORMANCE DISTRICT.

HOW DO THOSE CHANGES AFFECT THAT? DID YOU GO FROM BEING GREAT? DO YOU TAKE SOME THAT ARE GREAT AND THEN SOME THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOOD AT WHAT IS THAT LOOKING LIKE FROM A FRAMEWORK, AND HOW CAN YOU SUSTAIN THAT? BECAUSE SUSTAINABILITY IS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS TO GET INTO A POINT OF SAYING THAT "I'M BALANCED." THEN CAN WE SUSTAIN THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME? WE TALKED ABOUT FIVE YEARS, I THINK EARLIER THAT WAS THE COMMENTS BEING MADE.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE OVER A FIVE YEAR TIMELINE? DO WE HAVE THE PEOPLE WITH THE RIGHT SKILLS THAT CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE WE DON'T. JUST HAVING CLASS SIZES OF THE LARGER OR WHATEVER DOESN'T GET YOU THERE.

I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING A LOT ABOUT THAT COMPONENT AS WELL, AND THEN THE BASELINE, WHAT WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT MAINTAINING IN TERMS OF ENROLLMENT ACROSS THE DISTRICT AS WELL, WHAT CAN WE ACTUALLY EFFECTIVELY DO TO MAIN THAT QUALITY OF OUTCOMES OF SERVICE?

>> I'LL JUST JUMP INTO AT THE END, I THINK THE DEFINITION OF BALANCED BUDGET BECAUSE SAY ALWAYS,

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WE'VE OUR PRACTICE HAD BEEN, WE COULD BANK ON A ONE TO 2% VARIANCE.

THAT USED TO MEAN WE COULD HAVE A TWO TO THREE TO $4 MILLION DEFICIT, AND WE MAKE UP FOR THAT.

BUT I THINK AS WE'VE TALKED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND ESPECIALLY THE MORE LEAN AND MEAN WE'VE BEEN RUNNING.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN BANK ON HAVING THOSE SAVINGS AND THEY PREDOMINANTLY CAME FROM STAFFING.

I THINK A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK NICOLE, YOU SAID, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE TO DO THIS OR WE DON'T LIKE THESE THINGS.

THEN WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT.

WE CAN'T SAY NO ALL THE TIME WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE IMPACT IS.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A, THEN HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE REMAINDER OF THE DISTRICT OR THE SERVICES WE'RE OFFERING? OR WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS TO NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED BY, THE CRC COMMITTEE.

THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS ON IT.

>>> THAT HELPS.

THANK YOU, MS. BROWN.

>> SORRY. THAT HELPS ME TO HAVE IT GO AROUND THE TABLE, I DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF ALIGNMENT WITH NICOLE.

WITH TRUSTEE BENTLEY AND TRUSTEE HILL, THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SAID SO PERFECTLY.

I THINK NOW THAT I LOOK AT THIS QUESTION TOO, I WOULD SAY, "HOW DO WE CONTINUE MY EXPECTATION IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO BUILD TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

THAT WOULD GUIDE DECISION-MAKING AND SUPPORT THIS WORK.

TO YOUR POINT, CLARITY ON WHAT THE WORDS MEAN AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE.

BUT MY EXPECTATION IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS TIME TOGETHER TO BUILD TRUST, TO BE TRANSPARENT, AND TO END WITH CLARITY.

>> THANKS BROWN

>> AS A REMINDER, WE DETERMINED, THESE ARE THE DISTRICT BUDGET PRIORITIES.

WITH THE GOAL OF REACHING A BALANCED BUDGET, CSC WILL MAINTAIN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE APPROACH BY ENSURING EXPENDITURES ALIGNED WITH REVENUES, PRIORITIZING SUSTAINABILITY, AND LONG TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY AS WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED.

>> OVER THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT A MULTI YEAR BALANCED BUDGET PLAN.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PLAN IS FLEXIBLE AND ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE MADE AS ENROLLMENT FUNDING OR THE NEEDS THE DISTRICT CHANGE.

THE ACTION STEPS FOR THE MULTI YEAR BALANCED BUDGET PLAN CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

SOME OF THE ITEMS FOR THE BALANCED BUDGET PLAN OR ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS, AND SOME OF THEM ARE BOARD ACTIONS AND REQUIRE APPROVAL.

FIRST, LET'S REVIEW THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED OVER THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS.

CISC HAS EXPANDED OUR MARKING EFFORTS TO ATTRACT FAMILIES AND STRATEGICALLY EXPANDED LIMITED OPEN ENROLLMENT, WHERE CAPACITY ALLOWED.

THE ATTENDANCE MATTERS CAMPAIGN IS AN ONGOING STRATEGY TO IMPROVE AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE, WHICH DIRECTLY IMPACTS FUNDING.

WE'VE INCREASED CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS AND ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES AND ARE EXPANDING OUR CURRENT TECHNICAL EDUCATION COURSE OFFERINGS, BOTH OF WHICH INCREASE REVENUE.

ON THE FEE SIDE, WE'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO RENTAL FEES, PAD TO RIDE FEES, AND TICKET PRICES TO MORE ACCURATELY REFLECT THE COST OF SERVICES.

WE'RE ALSO MAXIMIZING AVAILABLE GRANT FUNDING, INCLUDING THE SAFE GRANT, THE METROCREST HOSPITAL AUTHORITY GRANT, AND TITLE FUNDS, AND HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF COPPELL TO SHARE THE COSTS OF OUR STUDENT RESOURCE OFFICERS IN COPPELL.

ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, WE ARE REDUCING STAFF PAYROLL THROUGH ATTRITION AND CAREFULLY STAFFING CAMPUSES BASED ON THE APPROPRIATE STUDENT TO TEACHER RATIOS.

DEPARTMENT AND CAMPUS BUDGETS HAVE BEEN REDUCED, AND WE'VE IMPLEMENTED OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES ACROSS THE DISTRICT TO CUT COSTS.

IN ADDITION, WE'VE REDUCED SHUTTLE ROUTES, SCALED BACK CUSTODIAL ADDITIONAL SERVICES, AND REDUCED EXTRACURRICULAR TRAVEL.

EACH OF THESE STEPS REPRESENTS A DELIBERATE EFFORT TO PROTECT CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION WHILE MAKING NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR OVERALL BUDGET. AS WE GOING?

>> SORRY. ARE YOU ALL GOING TO TELL US WHEN YOU WANT OUR QUESTIONS?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] SORRY.

IF WE COULD GO THROUGH AS MANY OF THE SLIDES AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT WAY, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR TRAJECTORY.

THEN WHAT WE'LL ROLL INTO IS MISS SARKAR, WE'LL TALK ABOUT HER PART THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ACTUAL IMPACT TO THE BUDGET.

ON SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS THAT WOULD BE HERE.

IF YOU COULD DO THIS, HAVE YOU A LITTLE NOTES.

I SEE ALL ALL TAKING YOUR NOTES LIKE I AM RIGHT HERE AS WELL.

BUT IF YOU COULD DO THAT AND CAPTURE AS MANY QUESTIONS AND BE SPECIFIC

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ABOUT TO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH JUST NOTE, IN 24-25, I SEE I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR THING, AND THEN THAT WAY WHEN WE GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, I THINK IT WILL HELP TO NOT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER THAT IN A FEW SLIDES LATER IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

PERFECT. IN 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL REALIZE HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT ALSO TWO, WE'RE JUST GOING TO NOTE THEM AS WELL.

THERE WAS BOARD ACTION TO CONSOLIDATE PINKERTON ELEMENTARY.

THERE WAS BOARD ACTION AS WELL TO REALIGN BOUNDARIES FOR THE 25-26 SCHOOL YEAR.

WE DO HAVE A RELOCATION OF THE DUAL LANGUAGE IMMERSION PROGRAM, OUR DLI PROGRAM, WE HOUSED A DEN CREEK ELEMENTARY AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AND REDUCING DISTRICT AND CAMPUS STAFF BASED ON ENROLLMENT.

ALSO TO, WE HAD DISCUSSED EARLIER, BUT ALSO TO THE TRANSPORTATION EFFICIENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH LOOKED AT IN THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAD AS WELL.

MOVING ON TO OUR 25-26 SCHOOL YEAR, ONCE AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT THE MULTI YEAR BALANCED BUDGET AND TRYING TO SEE THE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT COULD BE DETAILED OUT.

BOARD ACTION TO CONSOLIDATE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FOR THE 26-27 SCHOOL YEAR, BOARD ACTION TO REALIGN BOUNDARIES FOR THE 26-27 SCHOOL YEAR.

RELOCATE THE REIMAGINED NEW TECH HIGH, WHICH HAS BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW AT COPPELL INTO CHS AS A SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL FOR THE 26-27 SCHOOL YEAR.

EXPLORE VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION WITH NEW STATE LEGISLATION.

TRUSTEE BENTLEY, YOU HAD MENTIONED SOME OF THE PIECES RIGHT NOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED NOW BY THE STATE, WHERE DISTRICTS CAN HAVE A MORE OPEN LOOK AT ACTUALLY HAVING VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION AND HAVING SOMETHING WITHIN A SCHOOL TO OFFER EITHER ASYNCHRONOUS OR SYNCHRONOUS BASED ON DISTRICTS DECIDING TO MOVE AHEAD WITH PROGRAMS, AND ALSO TO INCREASE YOUR ADA ALLOTMENT WITHIN THAT.

MORE THINGS ON THAT SOON.

BUT CONTINUE THE REDUCTION OF SUPPORT STAFF THROUGH A TRIP [NOISE].

EXAMINE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT STAFF REDUCTIONS FOR 26-27, EXAMINE THE SHUTTLES FOR REDUCTION, ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT WITHIN THERE.

THEN ONCE AGAIN, EXPLORING THAT SECONDARY STUDENT SCHEDULES, SPECIFICALLY REVIEWING GRADUATION PLANS AND COURSE OFFERINGS, INCLUDING INTERNSHIPS, OFF PERIODS, AND WORK RELEASE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL SURROUNDING DISTRICTS THAT ALSO DO WHEN YOU WERE MENTIONING THAT MISS WALKER EARLIER, THINKING ABOUT NOT ONLY JUST AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE SCHEDULE WITHIN THERE, BUT ARE THERE SOME REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE AN OFF PERIOD OR INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY AS WELL? MOVING ON TO 26-27.

THINKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION WITH NEW STATE LEGISLATION, IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE DECIDE AS A DISTRICT.

REDUCED NUMBER OF DISTRICT SUPPORT STAFF.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT'S A REPETITION PIECE RIGHT THERE WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO THINK ABOUT THE STAFFING COST.

REDUCTION OF SECONDARY ELECTIVES OR LOWER ENROLLMENT COURSES.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER WITH IN SRC AS WELL.

SHUTTLE REDUCTION BY AT LEAST 50% FROM CHS AND CHS9 ROUTES, EXPLORE THE PAY TO RIDE FOR SHUTTLES AND HOME TO SCHOOL ROUTES.

EXPANSION OF VICTORY PLACE, ALLOWING FOR MORE VIRTUAL OPTIONS AND POSSIBLY A WORK RELEASE PROGRAM WITHIN THAT.

THERE ARE SOME DISTRICTS ONCE AGAIN THAT HAVE A HALF DAY OPTION FOR SOME OF THE THINGS WITHIN THAT, AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO EXPLORE.

IMPLEMENT SECONDARY SCHEDULE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENT SCHEDULES.

LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND DO AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR? THEN ONCE AGAIN, EXPLORING THAT SECONDARY MASTER SCHEDULE CHANGES AND THE PLC TIME, SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT YOU WOULD HAVE THE REQUIRED CONFERENCES FOR TEACHERS, BUT ALSO MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ADDITIONAL PLC TIME THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUSES AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR CORE CONTENT THAT IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW? FOR 27-28, BOARD POLICY ACTION FOR PAY TO RIDE FOR SHUTTLES AND HOME TO SCHOOL ROUTES.

IMPLEMENT THE SECONDARY MASTER SCHEDULE CHANGES, THINKING ABOUT THE PLC TIME, EXPLORE ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY PROGRAMMATIC REDUCTIONS, AND THEN ROLLING INTO 28 AND 29, HAVING TO LOOK NECESSARILY AT ELEMENTARY PROGRAMMING REDUCTIONS AND SECONDARY PROGRAMMING REDUCTIONS.

NOW, THROUGH ALL OF THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AND THIS IS A PART THAT ALSO TO, WE PARTNER WELL WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL HAVE AN AWARENESS OF THESE PIECES TOO.

BUT HOW WOULD WE MEASURE THAT IMPACT ON LEARNER PERFORMANCE? BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST OUR ACADEMIC, BUT IT'S ALSO THE SOCIAL EMOTIONAL NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR KIDS, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

EVEN WITH OUR TRANSITIONS THAT WE HAD FROM THIS YEAR, WITH OUR CONSOLIDATION OF PINKERTON AND THINKING ABOUT DLI, HOW ARE WE ALSO USING OUR DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR BEGINNING, MIDDLE AND END OF THE YEAR ASSESSMENTS, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THAT GROWTH, OR ANY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT, OF COURSE, OUR STANDARDIZED ASSESSMENTS FROM THE STATE, THINKING ABOUT STAAR, OUR EOCS, OUR TELPAS DATA, LOOKING AT ONCE AGAIN, OUR LANGUAGE GROWTH FOR OUR EMERGENT BILINGUAL STUDENTS, HOUSE BILL THREE GOALS, WHICH YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

YOU'VE HEARD SEVERAL UPDATES ON ALL OF THOSE, BUT KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAY BE IMPACTED AND ONCE AGAIN,

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THAT SOCIAL EMOTIONAL PIECE THROUGH OUR PANORAMA SURVEYS FOR NOT ONLY OUR LEARNER FEEDBACK, BUT ALSO OUR FAMILY AND STAFF FEEDBACK.

OUR WHOLE SYSTEM FOR MTSS, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE MONITORING OUR PROGRESS LEARNING, NOT ONLY FOR INTERVENTION, BUT ALSO ENRICHMENT.

THEN ALSO TO LOOKING AT SPECIFICS FOR SAT.

YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THE BIG THING UP THERE IF YOU LOOK ON THE SIDE, YOU'RE GOOD.

THINKING ABOUT SAT, ACT PARTICIPATION, ONCE AGAIN, IN OUR AP OR IV COURSES, AS WELL AS PARTICIPATION IN OUR CTE COURSES AND IBC CERTIFICATIONS.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY OTHER DATA POINTS THAT COULD BE LISTED HERE SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT YOUR GRADES AND THINKING ABOUT ATTENDANCE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS RIGHT THERE FOR BEHAVIOR.

THESE ARE SOME OF OUR LARGER, JUST CAPTURING THAT TO YOU TO THINK ABOUT ANY TRANSITION OR DECISION.

ALWAYS HAS TO BE ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR KIDS AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING OKAY, HAVING THEIR NEEDS MET.

>> I'D LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH OUR PROPOSED DRAFT SCHOOL CONSOLIDATION AND BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT TIMELINE, WHICH OUTLINES CRITICAL DECISIONS RELATED TO SCHOOL CONSOLIDATION AND OUR MULTI YEAR BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.

WE'VE STRUCTURED THIS CALENDAR WITH A DELIBERATE FOCUS ON TRANSPARENCY, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, AND TIMELY DECISION MAKING.

OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THE COMMUNITY IS INFORMED AND INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

WE ARE ASKING YOU AS THE BOARD TO BEGIN PROCESSING THE CRC RECOMMENDATIONS NOW.

THIS TIMELINE ALLOWS FOR TIME TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDING BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT, UPDATED ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS, AND ACTUAL ENROLLMENT NUMBERS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

THROUGHOUT THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS, SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS, WE WILL SHARE BUDGET INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE WE STAND IN OUR PROPOSED MULTI YEAR BALANCED BUDGET PLAN.

WE WILL BRING THE COMPENSATION PLAN FOR APPROVAL DURING THE JUNE 23 BOARD MEETING.

IN JULY WE'LL HOST TWO MEETINGS ON THE 14TH AND THE 28TH TO CONTINUE REFINING OUR FISCAL PLANS.

ON AUGUST 11, WE WILL HOLD A FINAL BOARD WORKSHOP TO ALIGN ON ANY REMAINING DETAILS AHEAD OF THE AUGUST 25 BOARD MEETING.

WE WILL SHARE THE DRAFT DETAILS OF A MULTI YEAR BALANCED BUDGET PLAN, INCLUDING THE SCHOOLS RECOMMENDED FOR CONSOLIDATION.

THIS PLAN INCLUDES BOTH ITEMS THAT REQUIRE BOARD ACTION AND ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS.

FOLLOWING THE AUGUST 25 MEETING, WE WILL BEGIN A SERIES OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PRESENTATIONS, SCHEDULED THROUGHOUT THE END OF AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

THESE SESSIONS ARE DESIGNED AS A ROADSHOW TO BOTH EXPLAIN THE WHY BEHIND OUR DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND TO GATHER COMMUNITY FEEDBACK BEFORE ANY FINAL DECISION IS TAKEN.

THIS PROCESS CULMINATES AT THE SEPTEMBER 29TH BOARD MEETING WHEN THE BOARD WILL BE ASKED TO TAKE ACTION ON SCHOOL CONSOLIDATION AND BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT.

THIS APPROACH ENSURES THAT WE BALANCE URGENCY WITH ENGAGEMENT, AND THAT WE REMAIN GROUNDED IN THE FINANCIAL REALITIES DRIVING THESE DECISIONS WHILE HONORING OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR FAMILIES, OUR STUDENTS, AND OUR STAFF.

WE WILL ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE TIMELINE OR A TIMELINE AT THE MAY 19TH BOARD MEETING.

NOW DIANA IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE END OF NEXT SECTION.

>> THIS IS OUR TYPICAL BUDGET PLANNING CALENDAR AND ALL OUR DATES ARE ON THERE BEGINNING BACK IN JANUARY WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THE 2025 SCHOOL YEAR.

WE'RE RIGHT NOW ON MAY 12TH AT THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER BUDGET WORKSHOPS WHERE YOU GET DRAFT BUDGETS.

THE BOARD HAS SEEN THE DRAFT BUDGET THAT WAS PRODUCED FOR THIS MEETING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO IT IN DETAIL, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THE BOARD WOULD BE ASKED TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ON AUGUST 25.

THE BOARD'S BEEN GIVEN THE PACKET OF INFORMATION WITH THE DETAILED BUDGET FOR 25-26, BUT THAT IS PRIOR TO ANY LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

WE'RE PROJECTING A 12.6 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT PRIOR TO ANY COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR TEACHERS AND STAFF.

BY JUNE 9TH, WE HOPE TO HAVE INCORPORATED ANY LEGISLATIVE CHANGES INTO THE BUDGET.

HOWEVER, ONE, WE HAVE TO GET THE LEGISLATURE TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES.

TWO, IT OFTEN TAKES TIME FOR THE LAW TO BE INTERPRETED AND FOR DISTRICTS TO GET A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW FUNDING IS CHANGING.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT NEW LEGISLATION TO INCORPORATE INTO THE PROJECTION FOR THE NEXT WORKSHOP.

THIS PROJECTION HAS BEEN UPDATED TO INCORPORATE THE CURRENT YEAR'S LOSS OF REVENUE AND THE CURRENT YEAR'S AMENDED BUDGET.

THE DEFICIT WILL INCREASE BY $3 MILLION EACH YEAR WITHOUT ANY FURTHER EXPENSE REDUCTIONS.

WALKING THROUGH WHAT OUR ENROLLMENT LOOKS LIKE.

THIS CHART SHOWS THE ENROLLMENT THAT IS PROJECTED IN THE ELEMENTARY PROGRAM AS A WHOLE.

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HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ON THIS CHART IS THE DECREASING ENROLLMENT.

THE LARGEST ELEMENTARY COHORT IS CURRENTLY IN THE FIFTH GRADE, MEANING THEY'LL BE MOVING INTO MIDDLE SCHOOL NEXT YEAR WITH SMALLER COHORTS IN EACH LOWER GRADE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE LOW 700 IN KINDERGARTEN.

BASED UPON THE DECREASE OF ENROLLMENT IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YOU CAN SEE THAT STAFFING WILL NEED TO BE ADJUSTED TO MATCH THE LOWER ENROLLMENT THROUGH 28-29.

NOW WE ADD THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM ON.

AS I SAID, THE LARGEST ELEMENTARY COHORT IS CURRENTLY IN FIFTH GRADE AND WILL BE MOVING INTO MIDDLE SCHOOL NEXT YEAR.

BUT IT'S NEARLY 100 STUDENTS LOWER THAN THE CURRENT MIDDLE SCHOOL COHORTS.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THE LOWER GRADE COHORTS MOVE THROUGH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HOW ENROLLMENT DROPS THROUGH 2031-32.

MIDDLE SCHOOL STAFFING ADJUSTMENTS ARE ALREADY BEING MADE, AND WE'LL NEED TO CONTINUE, BUT IT'S MINIMAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

HOWEVER, THE NEED GROWS AS EVERY YEAR COMES THROUGH.

FINALLY, ADDING THE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE LOWER GRADE COHORTS MOVE THROUGH THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THEN THROUGH THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

THE DISTRICT'S LARGEST COHORT IS CURRENTLY IN EIGHTH GRADE WITH 1,159 STUDENTS, AND IT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN POSITIONS AT HIGH SCHOOL WILL BE NECESSARY IN SIX TO SEVEN YEARS.

THIS IS THE SAME CHART THAT WE VIEWED.

HOWEVER, HERE, WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THE POINT AT WHICH THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT FOR EACH PROGRAM SETTLES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ELEMENTARY PROGRAM SETTLES AROUND 4,900 STUDENTS IN TWO YEARS.

THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM SEES A DECLINE TO AROUND 2,600 STUDENTS IN SIX TO SEVEN YEARS, AND THE UTILIZATION OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS MIGHT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME.

ONE PART OF THE MULTI YEAR PLAN INCLUDES MOVING NEW TECH SCHOOL INTO CHS.

YOU MIGHT WONDER, IS THERE SPACE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN? AS PART OF THE BOND PROJECTS UNDER THE 2023 BOND, THE FINE ARTS REHEARSAL BUILDING WILL BE COMPLETE IN THE FALL OF 2025, ALLOWING THE MOVEMENT OF BAND CHOIR AND DANCE INTO THAT SPACE, FREEING UP THAT AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY USED BY THOSE PROGRAMS TO BE RENOVATED TO ACCOMMODATE THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAM.

THAT WILL FREE UP SPACE IN ANOTHER AREA OF CHS THAT CAN BE USED TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW TECH HIGH PROGRAM.

THE DISTRICT HAS TYPICALLY QUOTED A CURRENT COMFORTABLE CAPACITY AT CHS AT 3,600.

THIS CAPACITY WILL INCREASE WITH THE REHEARSAL BUILDING.

CURRENT ENROLLMENT AT CHS PLUS NEWTECH FOR 26-27 IS PROJECTED TO BE AROUND 3460, WHICH IS 96% OF CAPACITY.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT MANY NEWTECH STUDENTS ARE ALREADY TAKING MANY OF THEIR COURSES AT CHS, SO THEY'RE ALREADY ON THAT CAMPUS FOR PART OF THE DAY.

AS REFERENCED, IN 2017, 2018, PRIOR TO OPENING CHS9, CHS ENROLLMENT WAS 3,530 OR 98% OF THE THEN COMFORTABLE CAPACITY.

>> IT'LL TAKE MORE THAN 10 YEARS FOR CHS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL PROJECTED HIGH SCHOOL ENROLLMENT, BUT LOOKING TO MOVE ALL NINTH GRADERS BACK TO CHS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME.

THESE ARE THE BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE CHS REHEARSAL BUILDING AND MOVING THE CAREER AND TECH SPACE.

A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WILL IMPACT THESE NUMBERS ARE THE VALLEY RANCH ELEMENTARY ADDITION.

THAT'S ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETE FOR THIS AUGUST.

VALLEY RANCH WILL BE COMPLETE AND WE'LL HAVE ADDED 90 ADDITIONAL SPACES.

DENTON CREEK AND TOWN CENTER REFRESHES ARE HAPPENING THIS SUMMER, AND ESTIMATED TO COMPLETE IN AUGUST.

THE ELEMENTARY WALKING TRACK RESURFACING IS ESTIMATED TO BE DONE THIS SUMMER.

THEN MOVING ON TO UPCOMING PROJECTS.

LAKESIDE ELEMENTARY'S ADDITION AND RENOVATION, IT'S IN DESIGN, AND THAT PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO START MAY OF 2026, WITH CONSTRUCTION COMPLETE DURING THE '26/27 SCHOOL YEAR.

COTTONWOOD CREEK SCHEDULED TO BE REFRESHED IN THE SUMMER OF 2026.

THEN AUSTIN ELEMENTARY WAS ON THE DOCKET TO HAVE ADDITION AND RENOVATIONS ESTIMATED TO START IN MAY OF 2027 AND HAVE THAT COMPLETED IN '27/28.

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THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BOND PROJECTS, AS WE JUST FRAMED THAT AS WELL WITHIN SOME OF THESE DECISIONS.

YOU MIGHT ALSO BE ASKING, IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM TO CONSOLIDATE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS? THE CURRENT PROJECTION INDICATES THAT THE ELEMENTARY PROGRAM WILL NEED TO ACCOMMODATE ABOUT 4,900 STUDENTS.

THIS CHART SHOWS THE PROJECTED UTILIZATION OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS USING THE FALL 2024 PROJECTION.

THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED LINE SHOWS THE UTILIZATION IF THE DISTRICT CONSOLIDATES TWO ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES.

YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE '26/27 WOULD BE AROUND 96% OF COMFORTABLE CAPACITY, BUT THAT THAT UTILIZATION QUICKLY DROPS TO AROUND 90%.

REMEMBER THAT WE'VE OFTEN HAD CAMPUSES OPERATE ABOVE COMFORTABLE CAPACITY VERY SUCCESSFULLY.

THE RENOVATIONS OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS BEING DONE AS PART OF THE 2023 BOND ARE PLANNED TO ADD PRE K CLASSROOMS TO CAMPUSES, INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF EACH OF THOSE CAMPUSES.

THOSE CLASSROOMS WILL OFFER FLEXIBILITY TO THE CAMPUS SO THAT THEY CAN BE USED FOR OTHER GRADE LEVELS IF NECESSARY.

BY SLIGHTLY INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF EACH CAMPUS, THE DISTRICT WILL MAKE EACH CAMPUS MORE EFFICIENT AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST PER STUDENT WILL DECLINE.

CLOSING TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WILL ALSO REQUIRE BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT THAT MAY IMPACT MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.

HOWEVER, AS STATED IN THE CERC REPORT, IT IS BEING RECOMMENDED THAT BOTH CLOSURES BE DONE IN THE SAME YEAR TO MINIMIZE MULTIPLE MOVES FOR STUDENTS.

THE CERC COMMITTEE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT THE CLOSURES OCCUR FOR THE '26/27 SCHOOL YEAR IN ORDER TO CAPITALIZE ON THOSE SAVINGS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT THIS INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, INDICATING THE DECLINE IN FUND BALANCE WITHOUT FURTHER EXPENSE REDUCTIONS.

AS CURRENTLY ESTIMATED FOR THE '25/26, INCLUDING THE CONSOLIDATION OF PINKERTON AND DLI, THE DISTRICT WILL SEE A NEARLY 30% DECLINE IN FUND BALANCE OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD.

AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, TEA DOESN'T LIKE TO SEE MORE THAN 25% DECLINE IN FUND BALANCE, BUT THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED AS LONG AS WE HAVE 75 DAYS OF CASH ON HAND.

HOWEVER, WE NEED TO WORK ON REDUCING THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIT SO THAT WE DON'T FACE THAT SITUATION.

THIS INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED IN JANUARY, AND THIS PROJECTION SHOWS THE FUND BALANCE IF AN ADDITIONAL $5,000,000 IN EXPENSE REDUCTIONS MADE EACH YEAR.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE THE DISTRICT MUST REDUCE THE DEFICIT, WE MUST ALSO REACT TO INCREASES IN OTHER EXPENSES, SUCH AS PROPERTY INSURANCE, CONTRACTED SERVICES, UTILITY, AND ANY NEW LEGISLATIVE MANDATED SPENDING.

WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE BUDGET, WE ALSO HAVE OTHER FACTORS WORKING AGAINST US THAT ARE INCREASING OUR EXPENDITURES.

MUCH LIKE THE DISTRICT WILL TRACK STUDENT OUTCOMES, AS DR. BROOKS DETAILED, THE DISTRICT CAN ALSO TRACK KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT IT REMAINS ON TRACK TO REACH THAT BALANCED BUDGET.

THESE ARE THE KPIS THAT CAN BE TRACKED: NUMBER OF FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, THE GENERAL FUNDS EXPENSE TO REVENUE REVENUE RATIO.

IF EXPENSES ARE MORE THAN A REVENUE, THAT RATIO IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN 100.

THAT MEANS YOU'RE OPERATING IN A DEFICIT.

FUND BALANCE, THE DAYS OF EXPENDITURES IN FUND BALANCE, AND THE PERCENT CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE OVER THREE-YEAR PERIOD, AS WELL AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST RATIO.

MANY OF THESE ARE MEASURED WITHIN THE FIRST REPORT THAT TEA EVALUATES EVERY DISTRICT ON THOSE FINANCIAL INDICATORS EVERY YEAR.

THIS IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE STAIRSTEP APPROACH TO A BALANCED BUDGET, AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS REPRESENT THE CONTINUED IMPACT TO THE DISTRICT'S FUND BALANCE EACH YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT BUDGET REDUCTIONS.

THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO STRIVE TO KEEP THOSE REDUCTIONS AS FAR FROM THE CLASSROOM AS POSSIBLE, BUT THEY WILL HAVE SOME IMPACT ON STAFF AND STUDENTS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS PLAN HAS BEEN BUILT UNDER CURRENT FUNDING LAWS AS OF WHAT WE'RE LIVING WITH TODAY, AND SHOULD ANY SCHOOL FUNDING BILLS PASSED IN THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE PLAN WILL BE UPDATED TO REFLECT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AS WELL AS ANY ADDITIONAL SPENDING MANDATES.

AS NOTED, COST OF LIVING INCREASES ARE DEPENDENT UPON STATE FUNDING INCREASES IN THIS PLAN.

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WE HAVE WORKED ON THE BUDGET FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.

WE HAVE REITERATED THAT WE BELIEVE COST OF LIVING INCREASES ARE VITAL FOR EDUCATORS AND STAFF, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE CERC COMMITTEE AGREED.

WE HAVE CONTINUED TO COMMUNICATE THAT THOUGH BUDGET CHANGES ARE NECESSARY, THEY ARE NECESSARY TO CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF THE COPPELL ISD EMPLOYEES AND TO PROVIDE OVERALL COMPENSATION AND BENEFIT FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES.

AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NOT IMPROVED OUR BUDGET POSITION ENOUGH TO AFFORD RAISES WITHOUT INCREASED FUNDING FROM THE STATE.

IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THOSE INCREASES, THE DISTRICT MUST TAKE MEASURES TO REDUCE THE OVERALL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THE PAYROLL BUDGET SO THAT IT CAN CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF ITS EMPLOYEES YEAR AFTER YEAR.

THIS VISUAL SHOWS THE ACTUAL DEFICIT THAT WAS REALIZED IN '23/24, THE PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR '24/25, AND THE STAIRSTEP REDUCTION OF THE DEFICIT OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

IT INCLUDES AN $8.4 MILLION HIT TO THE FUND BALANCE IN '24/25 PLUS 18 MILLION MORE OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

THAT'S A REDUCTION OF NEARLY $33 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS FOR DEFICIT SPENDING, WHICH PULLS THE DISTRICT VERY CLOSE TO A $40 MILLION FUND BALANCE.

THE CONSEQUENCES OF REDUCING THE FUND BALANCE WILL IMPACT CASH FLOW, CREDIT RATINGS, AND FUTURE FLEXIBILITY.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BUDGET FOR OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS CURRENTLY PRESENTED IN THIS PLAN.

PERHAPS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IN TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION IS THE CURRENT URGENCY TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN, MAINLY DRIVEN BY THE ACTUAL REDUCTION IN ENROLLMENT AND THE ACTUAL DEFICIT SPENDING.

THE SOONER WE ARE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT CHANGES TO POSITIVELY IMPACT THE BUDGET, THE BETTER THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF THE DISTRICT, THE BETTER WE CAN SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THE DISTRICT AND SUPPORT THE STUDENTS, AS DR. BROOKS MENTIONED.

IN SHORT, WE HAVE NOT DONE ENOUGH YET TO TURN THIS DEFICIT SHIP AROUND.

WE HAVE TO DO MORE AND WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW.

WE'LL NOW WALK THROUGH THE PLAN, AS DR. BROOKS DESCRIBED EARLIER, AND THE IMPACT ON EACH YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE STEPS TAKEN DURING THIS YEAR WILL IMPACT THE '25/26 BUDGET ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.

ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE DECISION TO CLOSE PINKERTON AND CONSOLIDATE THE DLI PROGRAM HAVE BEEN OFFERED SIMILAR OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN COPPELL ISD, WITH THE MAJORITY GETTING THEIR FIRST OR SECOND CHOICE.

THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE OVERALL FULL TIME POSITIONS BY 37 FTES SO FAR, EITHER DURING THIS SCHOOL YEAR OR FOR NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, AND THOSE POSITIONS WERE REDUCED THROUGH ATTRITION FOR THOSE LEAVING THE DISTRICT OR RETIRING.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT $2.6 MILLION REDUCTION IN THE BUDGET.

AS I SAID, THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE OUT OF THE BUDGET, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER IMPACTS TO THE BUDGET, SUCH AS DECREASED REVENUE AND INCREASED EXPENSES, WHICH IS WHAT LEADS US TO THAT $12.6 MILLION DEFICIT FOR THE '25/26 BUDGET.

WORK THAT MUST BE COMPLETED DURING THE '25/26 SCHOOL YEAR THAT WILL IMPACT THE '26/27 BUDGET INCLUDE: CONSOLIDATING TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND REALIGNING ATTENDANCE BOUNDARIES.

THAT WILL SAVE ABOUT $2.2 MILLION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT IS THE ELEMENTARY ENROLLMENT DECLINES, STAFFING WILL NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.

RELOCATING NEW TECH SCHOOLS INTO CHS AND ADJUSTING THE SECONDARY, BOTH MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STAFFING FOR ENROLLMENT.

MOVING NEW TECH INTO CHS WILL ELIMINATE THE SHUTTLES THAT RUN BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS.

YOU CAN SEE THE SAVINGS, ALL OF THESE ITEMS ON THE SCREEN.

THE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A REDUCTION OF STAFF SUPPORT POSITIONS AND THE REDUCTION OF STAFF BASED UPON SECONDARY SCHEDULING CHANGES.

THE ESTIMATED DOLLAR IMPACT ON THE SLIDE INDICATES A REDUCTION OF AT LEAST 91 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

DURING THE '26/27 SCHOOL YEAR, THE DISTRICT WILL WORK TO IMPLEMENT THESE ITEMS ON THE PLAN.

DISTRICT SUPPORT POSITIONS AS WELL AS ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY STAFFING WILL BE REDUCED BASED ON THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT.

THE WORK DONE TO EXAMINE A WAY TO REDUCE THE COST OF CONDUCTING SECONDARY PLC TIME WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

THE ESTIMATED COST SAVING ASSUMES THAT $1.5 MILLION HAS ALREADY BEEN SAVED THROUGH STUDENT SCHEDULED CHANGES IN THE PRIOR YEAR, AND THE INITIATIVE TO MOVE TO A COMPLETELY PAID A RIDE BUS SYSTEM, EXCEPT THE BUSING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR ALL SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS, WILL GENERATE REVENUE AS INDICATED ON THE SLIDE.

THE ESTIMATED DOLLAR IMPACT ON THIS SLIDE INDICATES

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A REDUCTION OF AT LEAST 51 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

IN '29/30, WE WILL SEE EVEN GREATER NEED TO REDUCE SECONDARY POSITIONS DUE TO DECREASING ENROLLMENT WHILE ELEMENTARY ENROLLMENT IS PROJECTED TO LEVEL OFF.

HOWEVER, IF NECESSARY, ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS MAY NEED TO BE TAKEN THAT IMPACT ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY PROGRAM.

THIS IS QUITE A FEW YEARS OFF IN THE FUTURE, BUT THE BETTER JOB WE DO IN IMPLEMENTING PREVIOUS YEAR PLANS, THE BETTER OFF WE WILL BE AT SEEING THE ACTUAL FINANCIAL IMPACT AND PERHAPS CAN AVOID HAVING TO MAKE THE PROGRAMMING CHANGES.

THE ESTIMATED DOLLAR IMPACT ON THIS SLIDE INDICATES A REDUCTION OF AT LEAST 31 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

THIS SLIDE, SIMILAR TO THE ONE PRESENTED EARLIER, SHOWS THE IMPACT OF THIS MULTI-YEAR PLAN ON THE DISTRICT'S FINANCIAL SITUATION.

IF IMPLEMENTED WELL, MAKING ANY NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS THROUGH EACH YEAR, THE DISTRICT COULD HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET BY THE '28/29 SCHOOL YEAR, HAVING USED $33 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

WHEN WE SAY BALANCED BUDGET, YES, WE DO MEAN THE FINAL IMPACT TO FUND BALANCE.

YOU'LL SEE IN THAT '28/29 COLUMN, THERE'S A NET $2.5 MILLION DEFICIT BUDGET THAT WE ESTIMATE, WE WOULD HAVE $2.5 MILLION OF SAVINGS, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT BASICALLY A ZERO IMPACT TO THE FUND BALANCE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND AT ALL, THESE NUMBERS ARE PROJECTIONS, SO PLEASE DON'T HOLD ME TO $681.

AGAIN, THESE ARE PROJECTIONS PRIOR TO ANY LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AS WELL, BUT THEY ALSO DON'T INCREASE.

THEY DON'T INCLUDE COST OF LIVING INCREASES.

ANY INCREASING IN STATE FUNDING REVENUE MAY BE UTILIZED TO PROVIDE THOSE COST OF LIVING INCREASES.

BUT INCREASING EXPENSES AND REVENUE OF THE SAME AMOUNT RESULTS IN THE SAME BOTTOM LINE RESULTS.

SO NO MATTER WHAT, WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO.

ONCE THE BALANCED BUDGET IS REACHED, IT'LL BE IMPORTANT THAT THE DISTRICT CONTINUE TO ADJUST STAFFING FOR THE ACTUAL LOSS IN ENROLLMENT AS ENROLLMENT LOSSES ARE CONTINUED TO BE PROJECTED FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

THIS MULTI-YEAR BALANCED BUDGET PLAN IS A FRAMEWORK FOR MAKING SUSTAINABLE CHANGES THAT WILL RESULT IN A BALANCED BUDGET.

THE FRAMEWORK IS FLEXIBLE AND SOME COMPONENTS MAY DRIVE MORE OR LESS SAVINGS THAN EXPECTED DEPENDING UPON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF EACH COMPONENT.

THE PLAN MAY NEED TO BE MODIFIED IF ENROLLMENT TRENDS CHANGE, EITHER GETTING BETTER OR GETTING WORSE.

ANY NEW LEGISLATION WILL IMPACT THE FRAMEWORK BY EITHER ADDING FUNDING OR MANDATING ADDITIONAL SPENDING.

THE KEY IS TO IMPLEMENT SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS AND MONITOR THE PLAN'S PROGRESS.

THE MONITORING OF STUDENT OUTCOMES AND THE KEY FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE INDICATORS WILL HELP US TRACK THE PROGRESS.

>> THEN WE'LL END WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE SAME EXPECTATIONS, AND THEN MORE SPECIFICALLY, QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

>> QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU TALK ABOUT TIA, I KNOW THAT WORK HAS BEEN GOING ON.

IS THAT INCORPORATED INTO THIS CONVERSATION, AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR, WHAT CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN?

>> THE TEACHER INCENTIVE ALLOTMENT IS A SPECIAL PROGRAM THAT TEACHERS BECOME DESIGNATED UNDER, AND THE DISTRICT IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW OF HAVING OUR OWN PROGRAM IN PLACE.

BUT THE FUNDS THAT ARE THEN PROVIDED FOR TEACHERS THAT EARN THOSE DESIGNATIONS COME DIRECTLY FROM THE STATE.

IT'S BASICALLY FLOWS THROUGH THE DISTRICT TO THE TEACHER.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT INCREASES THE DISTRICT'S BUDGET PER SE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS AN ALLOTMENT FOR CLASSROOM TEACHERS.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE NURSES, LIBRARIANS, COUNSELORS, ANY SUPPORT STAFF THAT'S NOT IN THE CLASSROOM.

>> WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS NOW, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. WE'RE IN OUR DATA COLLECTION YEAR, SO ALL OF THE PIECES THAT FLOW INTO THAT TEACHER OBSERVATION, STUDENT GROWTH, ALL OF THAT DATA IS BEING COLLECTED.

IT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE STATE THIS SUMMER FOR EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS.

BASED ON APPROVAL, OUR TEACHERS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A DESIGNATION AND THUS A PAYMENT ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

>> THEN ANY EMPLOYEES THAT COME TO US FROM A DISTRICT ALREADY

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PARTICIPATED IN TIA HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THOSE FUNDS.

>> I MEAN I DON'T THINK MY EXPECTATIONS HAVE CHANGED MUCH FROM THE BEGINNING.

I THINK YOU KNOW WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT'S THE ALTERNATIVES, IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVES? I TALK A LOT ABOUT IN MY WORLD, SEQUENCE OF RETURNS BECAUSE THEY MATTER.

I CAN GIVE YOU A 10 YEAR PERIOD AND WE CAN HAVE AN 80% RETURN.

THE GREATER RETURNS IN THE EARLY YEARS HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT IMPACT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE NOT DOING SOME THINGS NOW, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW AND I'LL EXPAND ON WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, NOT ONLY WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE OR WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO OUR STUDENT BODY AS A WHOLE AND AND WHERE WE WOULD MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.

BUT WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE FINANCIALLY DOWN THE ROAD? IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DON'T DO 10 MILLION IN THIS YEAR.

THAT'S GOING TO COMPOUND AND INSTEAD OF 10 MILLION IN THIS YEAR, WE MAY IN THE FUTURE HAVE TO FIND 15 OR 20 MILLION IN A SHORT PERIOD, 03, 4, 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S WHERE MY EXPECTATIONS GO, I THINK WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO, HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING IT.

THEN IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING NOW, WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS OF THAT?

>> I THINK THAT'S WHY WE FRONT LOADED THE PLAN BECAUSE WE CAN SEE GREATER RETURNS COMING OUT IF WE GET THE PLAN GOING.

I THINK IN SOME WAYS, ARE WE ARE ALREADY AT A POINT WHERE WE'VE NOT TAKEN ACTION AND NOW WE'RE FACED WITH HAVING TO DO 6.5 MILLION IN A YEAR.

>> ANYBODY ELSE.

>> I MEAN, I GUESS BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS INDIVIDUALLY, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THE WORK TO COME UP WITH THE PLAN.

I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE NOW.

I THINK YOU HIT HOME WHEN YOU WERE MENTIONING THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES EXCEPT THAT IT MATTERS TO THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOOD AND WHAT THEIR CAREERS ARE AND WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO HAVE THEIR CAREER.

I UNDERSTAND THE WEIGHT OF THAT.

ALSO, WHEN WE GENERALLY START TALKING ABOUT CAMPUSES AND ELEMENTARIES, WE KNOW THAT MEANS A LOT TO PEOPLE AND WHERE THEY CHOSE TO LIVE THEIR HOUSES OR HOW THEIR KIDS ARE PERFORMING AND THRIVING IN CERTAIN SCHOOL VERSUS ANY THAT COULD BE ELEMENTARY, SECONDARY, OR WHATEVER.

I KNOW THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE HARD AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND LIVE WITH THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND TRY TO HONOR THAT AS WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

THE OTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME, AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DRIVING THINGS WE KNOW WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS THAT, NONE OF THIS WAS THAT COST OF LIVING INCREASE AS ASSUMING NONE OF THAT.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ITSELF HASN'T HAD A COST OF LIVING SINCE 2019 BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS NOT THE STATE HASN'T GIVEN IT TO US.

AS INFLATION AND OTHER THINGS GO LIKE TEACHER PAY IS STRAINED EVEN FURTHER.

I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE [NOISE] CAN BE FINANCIALLY STABLE AND PROVIDE THAT.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE MISS IN TERMS OF WHAT THESE TRADE OFFS ARE LIKE 80-82% OF OUR BUDGET IS STAFF SALARIES.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HONORING THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO EVERY DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO MAKE CPA SEE WHAT IT IS.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE BEGINNING BEFORE WE GET IN THE DETAILS AND I KNOW THAT AT LEAST I KNOW FOR A FACT, THAT'S ALL THE THINGS THAT I'M CONSIDERING A WAY ON AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS CONSIDERING INTO AND BEFORE WE GET ACROSS FROM THE APP AS WELL.

SAYING THAT, WE CAN STEP INTO SOME OF THE MORE SPECIFICS, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING TO ADD ON THAT.

>> I MEAN, I AGREE. I THINK BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE RAISES, AND PAY OUR PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL SIT AROUND AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES AND ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY PRIORITIES IF WE LOOK AT THE CISD COMMITTEE.

AS MUCH CLARITY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ESPECIALLY THE REDUCTION AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO TRY TO DO IT BY ATTRITION, BUT AT SOME POINT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CUT IT.

JUST HAVING THAT CLARITY SO THAT THERE'S AS LITTLE I WANT TO SAY DOUBT,

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BUT THERE'S NOT A CONSTANT FEAR, AM I NEXT.

I THINK AS MUCH AS WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT IN OUR TRANSPARENCY AND DISCUSSIONS AS YOU [INAUDIBLE].

>> YOU MENTIONED VIRTUAL INSTRUCTIONS.

HOW DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ANYTHING RIGHT THIS SECOND BECAUSE THE STATE JUST APPROVED IT ON FRIDAY.

BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING TO SEE WHERE THAT WAS GOING TO LAND AND HOW IT WAS GOING TO LOOK, WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THIS STARTING NOW, ACTUALLY, AS WELL AS WE'RE GOING INTO THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

WILL BE TO SEE, IS THIS THAT WE FEEL LIKE AS A DISTRICT TO HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT RIGHT NOW TO LOOKING AT HOW THE BILL READS.

DIFFERENT DISTRICTS MAY OPT TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT EXPANDS EVEN LOOKING AT A K THROUGH 12 PIECE WITHIN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT ONCE AGAIN, THAT THE APPETITE OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IF DISTRICTS OUT THERE ARE THINKING, THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER REVENUE GENERATOR THAT COULD HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ADA.

THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS PREVIOUSLY.

IT'S BEEN VERY LIMITED WITHIN THE STATE BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED.

THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THEN WHEN THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED, THEY REALLY PUSHED BACK ON THAT FROM THE STATE SAID, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

NOW I THINK THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT BROACHING THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD PLAN, BECAUSE ALSO TO WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR LAW.

IT'S ALSO LOOKING AT OPENING UP OUR DOORS FOR THAT.

IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BY THE STATE.

I'VE GOT IT ONCE AGAIN, I WAS READING ALL THE DETAILS TODAY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GO BACK INTO IT.

BUT IT ACTUALLY WAS SAYING THINGS NOT ONLY WITHIN THE STATE, BUT THAT IT MAY OPEN UP TO THE NATION.

KNOWING THAT ADDS JUST ANOTHER ADDITIONAL LAYER WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, THE MONITORING INFIDELITY AND THEN ALSO TO HOW ARE YOU SETTING UP THE STAFFING THAT IS GOING TO BE SPECIFIC? THEY HAVE ALLOWED ASYNCHRONOUS OR SYNCHRONOUS WITHIN THERE.

BUT EVEN WITH THAT, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT YOUR CURRENT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW COULD THAT LOOK.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR A SECOND.

IF WE WERE TO HAVE A BC CALCULUS TEACHER.

THAT WERE TO SAY, DURING MY SCHOOL DAY, WHEN I'M COMING TO WORK, I HAVE A SECTION THAT I WERE DOING VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION.

YOU CAN'T HAVE OTHER KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM WITHIN THAT.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWED.

HOW WOULD WE LOOK AT THAT WITH OUR CURRENT STAFFING MODEL, TO SEE HOW COULD WE OFFER SOME OF THOSE THINGS, AS WELL AS IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE LIKE OUR CAMPUS, THINKING ABOUT TURNING POINT SPECIFICALLY IN VICTORY PLACE.

HOW DOES THAT LOOK OR IMPACT, POSSIBLY SOME VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE THERE? I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT TO BITE OFF WITH THAT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO EXPLORE EVERY ASPECT TO SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TO CAN ABLE TO DO AND ALSO TO LOOKING AT OTHER MODELS AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, BUT JUST SEEING WHAT IS THE BEST FIT FOR US AND ALSO NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT BE TO THE MODEL OF EXCELLENCE THAT WE DO WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE TOO THAT ANYTHING THAT WE ARE OFFERING, WE HAVE A CERTAIN STANDARD THAT WE EXPECT AND THAT OUR FAMILIES EXPECT AND THAT OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS SO WE WANT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING TO BE VERY, VERY GOOD.

I THINK THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING HAPHAZARDLY JUST BY THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE AND NOT OFFERING THE BEST.

>> JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT QUESTION.

TO CLARIFY THE '25 '26 SCHOOL YEAR, WE'D BE EXPLORING THOSE OPTIONS.

WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER IMPLEMENTATION UNTIL '26 '27.

>> EVEN THEN LOOK TO SEE WHAT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THERE.

MAYBE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SAY, HEY, ELEMENTARY AND UP, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL PERSPECTIVE.

BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE CREATING A PILOT SOMEWHAT WHEN YOU'RE STARTING RIGHT TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE HAVING FIDELITY WITHIN YOUR SYSTEM [OVERLAPPING] BE HONEST WITH YOU.

>> YOU'RE.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THINKING AHEAD OF ME BECAUSE I'M THINKING, I'M OKAY WITH US BEING CUTTING EDGE.

I'M NOT SUPER INTERESTED IN US BEING BLEEDING EDGE.

>> EXACTLY.

>> ONE YEAR AFTER THIS IS AN OPTION.

TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT IS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HEAR WE'RE DOING RESEARCH AND WORK IN YOUR ONE AND NOT JUMPING RIGHT OFF THE DEEP END.

THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

>> ADA [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE EXCELLENCE AND EDUCATION IS ALSO TO THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE WITH FIDELITY.

>> THE LAW DOES CLEARLY SAY THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS TO SET NEW RULES AND GUIDELINES AROUND THIS.

WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT TO COME OUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO TAKE.

WE'VE BEEN DIGGING INTO THAT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME THINGS, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG PIECES OF IT.

>> I HAVE A WHOLE [NOISE] LAUNDRY LIST OF QUESTIONS.

DO YOU GUYS WANT ME TO GO LAST AND SEE IF OTHER PEOPLE ACTUALLY ASK THEM?

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK FROM A LOGISTIC SAMPLE.

IF WE NEED TO GO THROUGH [NOISE] DIFFERENT SECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT WE HAVE A COHERENT CONVERSATION.

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>> EACH YEAR MAYBE.

>> EACH YEAR [OVERLAPPING]. WE HAVE A CONVERSATION.

OTHERWISE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE HOPPING A LOT AND THEN SOME OF OUR ANSWERS MAY ANSWER OTHER PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS, SO WE CAN HAVE A COHERENT CONVERSATION.

>> THAT'S A GOOD STRATEGY. WHAT WE WANT TO GO BACK TO.

>> TALKING TO THE '24 '25, THAT ONE AND SEE IF.

THEN THAT WE COULD [OVERLAPPING] BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE MONEY.

THIS IS WHAT WE DID FOR SURE.

>> I'IL START THERE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I WILL SAY GO BACK TO '24 '25.

I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO ADD RIGHT HERE.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE SAID A LOT THE WORDS THAT WE HAVE LOST STAFF THROUGH ATTRITION OR THAT WE HAVE CUT.

WE HAVE, SO I THINK, PRESIDENT [INAUDIBLE], WHEN YOU HAD SAID, WHEN DO YOU GET TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE BARE BONING IT WITHIN THERE? WE'RE TO THAT POINT. THAT'S JUST ON THERE. I WANTED TO STAKE THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES, '25 '26.

>> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS, IF F3, IF WE RELOCATED NEW TECH TO COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL IN ITS OWN HALLWAY AND TRIED TO DO A CULTURE WITHIN A CULTURE.

IS IT POSSIBLE WOULD THE INTENTION BE FOR THERE TO BE SOME SHARING OF INSTRUCTORS DEPENDING UPON CONTENT AREA OR WOULD THE INTENTION BE? I KNOW WE'RE TALKING IN A LOT OF THEORY, SO IT'S HARD THAT I'M ASKING DETAILED QUESTIONS.

BUT IS THE INTENTION THAT IT'S LIKE A ISOLATED POD, OR IS THE INTENTION THAT THERE'S SOME SHARING OF RESOURCES AND I GET THE SPACE PIECE.

BUT WHAT STILL IS NOT ANSWERED FOR ME AND THIS IS IN THE WEEDS IS, HOW DO WE SERVE THE KIDS THAT ARE CHOOSING NEW TECH BECAUSE SIMPLY HAVING SPACE AT CHS DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION OF HOW WE'RE SERVING THE KIDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY CHOOSING NEW TECH.

>> I'LL JUMP IN A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN I'LL HAVE KRISTEN TALK ABOUT THE STAFFING PIECE TO YOU.

DEFINITELY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT A COHESIVE SYSTEM AND YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT NEW TECH AS A WHOLE, AND I'M THINKING THE LENS OF PBL, WHETHER THE RE-IMAGINING, HOWEVER THAT LOOKS WITH THE CURRICULUM PIECE WITH THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOUR CONSISTENCY, AND ESPECIALLY WITHIN YOUR CORE AREAS TO SAY, AS A PROGRAM, WHAT ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY, THIS IS OUR BRAND.

[OVERLAPPING] THE SELF-CONTAINED PIECE OF THIS WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION.

ONCE AGAIN, SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL ALLOWS YOU TO ALSO CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR PMS CODE FOR THAT CAMPUS, SO IT IS STILL ITS OWN CAMPUS, AS WELL AS ITS OWN GPA OR GRADUATION PIECES THAT WOULD GO WITH THAT.

KNOWING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE AND KEEP THOSE CONSISTENT, WHERE YOU WOULD SEE MORE FLEXIBILITY, AND THIS IS WHAT KRISTEN CAN ALSO EXPAND ONTO OF WHAT WE'RE EVEN HAVING TO DO FOR THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR WITH THINGS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ELECTIVE COURSES AS A WHOLE, YOU STILL WANT TO KEEP SOME OF THOSE CORE PIECES, I THINK ABOUT FEE AS AN EXAMPLE THAT HAS BEEN SO POWERFUL AND PASSIONATE WITHIN OUR NEW TECH MODEL.

THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP CONSISTENT? IS THERE A CTE PROGRAM THAT COULD ALSO, ONCE AGAIN, THOSE ARE ELECTIVES.

BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT COULD LIVE WITHIN THE BRAND OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT COULD HAVE MAYBE SOME OTHER STUDENTS ATTEND THAT ELECTIVE THERE? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS THROUGH THE YEARS, ONE OF WHICH WAS THAT LEGAL PATHWAY AND THINKING ABOUT IS THERE SOMETHING WITH LAW? I THINK ABOUT OUR PBL MODEL AND THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS WITH SOCRATIC SEMINARS, THINKING ABOUT SOME OF S THAT THEY DO, EVEN THE CHARGES THAT THEY LEAD AT THE CAMPUS WHEN THEY'RE HAVING SOME OF THEIR DISCUSSIONS AND PRESENTATIONS, THAT THEY'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BRANDED IN THAT WAY, SPECIFIC FOR THEM, BUT ALSO ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE MORE ACCESS TO FINE ARTS PROGRAMS, NOT ONLY, OF COURSE, JUST THINKING YOU'RE BAND IN YOUR CHOIR, BUT THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE VISUAL ARTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY OFFERING AT CHS.

THAT ALSO COULD ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH LOT WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT OUR INSTRUCTORS AS WELL AS OPENING UP MORE LOT COURSES FOR SOME OF OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY AT NEW TECH, THINKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ASL AND THINKING ABOUT FRENCH JUST AS TWO EXAMPLES WITHIN THERE.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD, KRISTEN TO THE SHARING OF THINGS LIKE.

>> ALREADY FOR NEXT YEAR IN PLANNING AND BEING EFFICIENT WITH STAFFING, I'VE WORKED WITH MR. PORTER.

WE HAVE SEVERAL ELECTIVES.

WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TEACHERS THAT WILL BE SHARED EITHER BETWEEN NEW TECH AND CHS OR NEW TECH AND CHS NINE.

WE HAVE ELIMINATED A CORE POSITION.

TEACHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY.

AS WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS, HE'S HAVING TO BE CREATIVE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO FIND TEACHERS THAT ARE HOLDING MULTIPLE CERTIFICATIONS OR THAT ARE WILLING TO COME ON BOARD WITH ONE CERTIFICATION AND THEN

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PREPARE AND TRAIN TO ADD ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATIONS.

EVEN WITH THE SCHOOL IN A SEPARATE LOCATION, WE'RE ALREADY HAVING TO SHARE.

OUR HOPE WOULD BE THAT AS YOU MOVE A SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL AND WE ELIMINATE SOME OF THE BARRIERS WITH SHUTTLES WITH CERTAIN CLASSES THAT CAN BE TAKEN EASILY, THAT THE NUMBERS WOULD INCREASE AS SUCH, THAT THERE'D BE HONESTLY LESS OF A NEED TO SHARE IN A SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL THAN WE'RE HAVING TO PROJECT AND PUT INTO PLACE EVEN NOW.

>> BECAUSE IT'S IN THAT SAME.

>> YES.

>> THEN, YOU'RE GOOD.

I THINK MY CLARIFYING QUESTION IS, CAN YOU WALK THROUGH HOW THAT NEW TECH PIECE WOULD SAVE THE MONEY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER, WILL YOU WALK THROUGH HOW IT SAVES THAT MONEY?

>> THAT'S ALL THE STAFFING.

SOME OF THE DUPLICATE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE STAFFED FOR PHYSICAL EDUCATION CLASSES, FOR ART CLASSES, FOR SOME OF THE CTE CLASSES THAT HAVE BEEN FULL TIME THAT WE'RE NOW PARTNERING BECAUSE THE ENROLLMENT DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT ANYMORE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, WOULD THERE STILL BE A NEED BASED ON NUMBERS FOR A SEPARATE COUNSELOR OR COULD SOME OF THOSE COUNSELING RESPONSIBILITIES BE ABSORBED IN THE LARGER COUNSELING GROUP AT THE HIGH SCHOOL? SOME OF THOSE PIECES HAVEN'T BEEN FULLY FLESHED OUT AS OF YET, BUT WE'RE REALLY HAVING TO LOOK AT EFFICIENCIES AND IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD.

STAFF, NOTICE WHEN YOU'RE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL OR AT CHS9 AND YOUR SECONDARY TEACHER WITH A LOAD OF 120 OR MORE KIDS, AND YOU'RE AT NEW TECH WITH A LOAD OF 60.

>> TO CLARIFY, SO STAFFING, AND HONESTLY, SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND, IT SOUNDS LIKE NEXT YEAR Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT ANYWAY.

IF THERE WAS NO CHANGE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WOULD BE SAVINGS WITH THE STAFFING MODELS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS, BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO INSTEAD OF ADDING POSITIONS ON OTHER CAMPUSES, WHERE MAYBE A FULL-TIME POSITION ISN'T NEEDED, BUT THERE ARE A NEED FOR SEVERAL OTHER SECTIONS, THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE HIGH-SCHOOL PRINCIPALS HAVE WORKED VERY COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THOSE NEEDS.

AGAIN, WE'RE MOVING TEACHERS, NOT STUDENTS TO BETTER UTILIZE THAT.

OF COURSE, THERE WOULD BE COST SAVINGS IN THE ELIMINATION OF SHUTTLES.

THAT'S A PIECE OF IT AS WELL AS FAR AS SOME FACILITIES' SAVINGS.

AGAIN, ANYTHING WE'RE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE 80% OF ANY OF THE BUDGET WHEN YOU SLICE IT AND DICE IT IS STAFFING, BUT THERE ARE OTHER COMPONENTS AS WELL.

BUT THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH FULL-TIME OFFICE STAFF, FULL-TIME NURSE, FULL-TIME COUNSELORS, AND THOSE PIECES THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY UNDER THE SAME ROOF.

>> I THINK, JUST TO CLARIFY TOO, THAT NUMBER, 01,650,000, INCLUDES DECREASING ENROLLMENT IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MIDDLE SCHOOL POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED THROUGH ATTRITION THIS YEAR, AND AS THAT FIFTH GRADE CLASS GOES IN, IT'S SMALLER THAN THE EIGHTH GRADE CLASS GOING OUT, AND SO THERE WOULD STILL BE SOME OF THAT HAPPENING AS WELL.

THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER TOO.

>> YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING ONE MORE THING, MS. WALKER.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SUPPORT POSITIONS, SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT SPECIAL ED TEACHERS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AS WELL AS YOUR LANGUAGE ACQUISITION SPECIALIST.

WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE SPLIT OF THEM COMING TO A DIFFERENT FACILITY, YOU ACTUALLY CAN DIVIDE AND CONQUER NECESSARILY TO BE ABLE TO MEET MORE STUDENTS IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT AS ANOTHER STAFFING AREA.

>> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PIGGYBACK.

I'LL BACK OUT AND MAYBE COME BACK IN.

>> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ON THIS IS IN THE NEW TECH RE-IMAGINING THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, AND WITH US POTENTIALLY MOVING TO A MORE COMPETITIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION ENVIRONMENT THAN WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, IN THE RE-IMAGINING, HAVE THERE BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MARKETING NEW TECH AS A CHARTER IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE WITH US RE-IMAGINING NEW TECH? IS IT A POTENTIAL REVENUE STREAM IF IT'S NOT A NEW TECH? IF IT DOESN'T LOOK EXACTLY LIKE IT DOES RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE RE-IMAGINING IT, DOES IT HAVE A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY IN THIS RE-IMAGINED VERSION OF ITSELF OF [OVERLAPPING] ATTRACTING KIDS OUTSIDE OF COPPELL ISD?

>> I THINK THAT PART OF THAT BALANCE OF THAT TOO IS ALSO LOOKING AT CERC RECOMMENDATIONS ON SOME THINGS, AND SO WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OPEN ENROLLMENT AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING,

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BUT REALLY OPENING THOSE DOORS, THAT WAS ALSO NOT AN APPETITE AT THIS TIME FOR THE COMMITTEE.

SOME OF THAT TOO IS LISTENING TO FEEDBACK FROM THAT GROUP TO BE ABLE TO SEE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED? NOW, ONCE AGAIN, WITH THE VIRTUAL OPPORTUNITIES, WE CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT YET, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT WILL BE AN INTERESTING PIECE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT COMPETITION NECESSARILY THAT COULD START BETWEEN DISTRICTS ON SOME DIFFERENT THINGS.

ANGEL, ANYTHING YOU'D ADD ON THAT END FOR DISCUSSION YOU'LL HAVE?

>> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT ABOUT OPEN ENROLLMENT.

WE KNOW THAT THE YIELD THAT WE GET, THE FURTHER WE GO OUT, THE YIELD IS SO SMALL.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO MORE THAN 10,000 HOMES TO EVEN GET [OVERLAPPING] A SMALL NUMBER.

>> I'M NOT TALKING ALL OPEN ENROLLMENT, THOUGH.

I'M TALKING, IF ONLY NEW TECH WAS MARKETED AS A CHARTER THE WAY, BOOKER T IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S A DISD SCHOOL THAT THEY MARKET FOR A VERY NICHE AUDIENCE.

PEOPLE DRIVE FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX TO GO THERE.

THAT'S REALLY MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS NOT DOING WIDE OPEN ENROLLMENT.

MY QUESTION IS ABOUT US BEING REALLY TARGETED, MAKING NEW TECH NICHE IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW.

HAS THAT BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE RE-IMAGINING?

>> IT WAS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PERCEPTION ISSUES.

>> AGREED.

>> IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT ROSE TO THE TOP IN THE RE-IMAGINING.

I THINK THAT BECAME A BIGGER PIECE OF THIS THAN ATTRACTING THE STUDENTS PER SE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, WE DISCUSSED IT BRIEFLY, BUT THERE WASN'T EVEN IN THAT GROUP NECESSARILY THAT SAME APPETITE, BUT IT WAS DISCUSSED.

WE NEVER USED THE WORD CHARTER, BECAUSE THAT FOR US IT'S A BAD WORD.

>> I KNOW. HAVE A CHARTER.

>> NO, I KNOW.

>> I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT I MEAN, BUT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF.

>> I THINK MY ONLY REMAINING QUESTION THEN ON NEW TECH, AND I'VE GOT A CTE QUESTION, BUT THAT'S IT.

ON NEW TECH, THOUGH, IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO SERVE THE KIDS THAT ARE THERE.

DO WE KNOW WHY THEY ARE NOT CHOOSING CHS, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO SERVE THOSE KIDS IS I THINK MY STANDING QUESTION FOR THE NEXT CONVERSATION.

>> I THINK WITH THE RE-IMAGINING TOO, MS. BENTLEY, THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT GROUP BACK TOGETHER BECAUSE WHILE THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT GROUPS, THE OPTION OF ALSO DOING SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL WAS BROUGHT UP IN OUR SCHEDULING COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE OF IF WE CAN TRY TO KEEP BLOCK SCHEDULE AND WE NEEDED TO DO SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO THINK THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD ALSO RESOLVE BECAUSE WE FEEL PASSIONATELY AS A DISTRICT WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, I WILL SAY, THAT THEY FELT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION NECESSARILY THAN ALSO SAYING, GREAT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PLC TIME, OR WE'RE GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM BLOCK SCHEDULING.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY MUCH A PART OF THAT.

MR. PORTER WAS ALSO ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, AND THOSE ARE SOME VERY VULNERABLE HARD DISCUSSIONS THAT ALSO CAME OUT OF THAT GROUP WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO GO THE WHOLE IN-BETWEEN OF IF THIS OR IF THIS AND TRYING TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS.

HOLD ON. ANOTHER QUESTION, I APOLOGIZE.

IT WAS JUST THE RE-IMAGINING OF THAT AND THEN?

>> MEETING THE STUDENT'S NEEDS.

I THINK A [OVERLAPPING] BIG PIECE OF THAT, AND AS I'VE BEEN REFLECTING ON THIS PROCESS, AND REFLECTING NOT JUST ON THE RE-IMAGINING, BUT REFLECTING ON THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS SCHOOL YEAR, THE TRANSITION TEAMS THAT WE'VE SET UP WITH THE STAFF, WITH THE PARENTS, AND WITH THE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE, AND I THINK THAT MODEL WITH NEW TECH, BECAUSE WHAT WE BUILT IN HERE IS SOME TIME, AND SO ALLOWING NEW TECH TO HAVE THOSE TRANSITION TEAMS IN PLACE BEFORE TO BUILD, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? THEN HOW DO WE SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF ALL OF THE STUDENTS? THE BIG PIECE, AND I SHARED IT AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE CULTURE IS IMPORTANT AT NEW TECH, AND HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THAT? THAT'S A PIECE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK ON, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A COMMITMENT THAT WE MAKE IS HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO DO A SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL, BUT REALLY BUILD THAT CULTURE? FRANKLY, IT PROBABLY WILL LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT AT THE HEART OF WHAT THAT CULTURE IS, AND THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT ON THE 19TH.

SOME OF THAT WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY PULLING THROUGH IS, WHAT IS THAT? MAINTAINING THAT FOR THOSE STUDENTS, THAT THEY FEEL THAT CONNECTION TO THEIR CAMPUS.

THEY FEEL THAT CONNECTION TO THEIR FACILITATORS.

THEY FEEL THAT CONNECTION, NOT NECESSARILY TO THE BUILDING, BUT TO EACH OTHER, TO THAT COMMUNITY.

HOW DO WE BUILD THAT?

>> I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO CREATE THAT WITHIN A BUILDING,

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BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE [OVERLAPPING] THINKING ABOUT CHS BEING A LARGE CAMPUS, AND I THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE SPACES RIGHT NOW FOR LEARNING FOR KIDS THAT'S THEIR SPACE.

I THINK ABOUT SOME OF OUR KIDS IN IB THAT ARE LIKE, OH.

THEY TAKE A BREATH WHEN THEY'RE GOING INTO THEIR CLASSROOM AND THEY'RE LIKE, MY GOSH, I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I'M HERE, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE MY THING AND I'M GOING TO DO THIS.

THE SAME THING FOR OUR KIDS THAT ARE GOING INTO OUR ART CLASSROOMS THAT ARE LIKE, THIS IS MY PASSION, THIS IS MY FIELD.

IF YOU'RE TAKING A BUILDING AND YOU'RE SAYING, GREAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF RE-DESIGN, IT DOES INCLUDE A RE-BRAND OF THAT AREA.

ONCE AGAIN, I THINK GETTING LEARNER FEEDBACK IS CRUCIAL ON THAT.

HOW DO YOU MAKE SOMETHING FEEL WHEN YOU ARE IN A DIFFERENT PART OF A LARGER BUILDING THAT THIS IS MY PART? I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE DONE.

IT'S THE SAME THING FOR CTE CLASSROOMS WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ENGINEERING, AND WE'RE GOING TO COME IN.

I AM NOW IN MY SPACE.

HOW, THOUGH, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH THAT? ALSO, TOO, CREATING A SPACE WHERE LEARNERS CAN GO TO WHERE IT'S NOT FEELING OVERWHELMED, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR A LOT FROM A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES AND KIDS THAT CHOOSE NEW TECH.

HOW HAVE WE CREATED AN AREA, BUT ALSO, TOO, HEY, IF I'M NOT GOING TO WALK DOWN THE MAIN HALL TO COME IN WHERE ALL THE KIDS AND THINGS, HOW HAVE WE CREATED AN ENTRANCE? WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE AND BEEN SO INTENTIONAL WITH THAT TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE SEL PIECE OF THOSE THINGS TOO WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT THAT FOR OUR KIDS? BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TRICKIER.

YOU'RE IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT, BUT HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SPACES AT CHS WHERE KIDS FEEL THAT THEY BELONG, AND THEY WANT TO GO THERE FOR A PARTICULAR CLASSROOMS OR MAYBE IT'S A PARTICULAR TEACHER.

THAT CAN BE CREATED, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH INTENTIONALITY.

>> I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT COMMENT AND QUESTION.

ARE THERE ANY NEW TECH MODELS THAT EXIST OUT THERE THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS AND DONE IT SUCCESSFULLY OVER SUSTAINED PERIOD OF TIME, AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN MAKING THAT TRANSITION, BECAUSE, ONCE AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, CULTURE IS IMPORTANT AND CREATING THOSE DEFINED SPACES IN A LARGER SETTING.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY EXAMPLES OR WERE THAT PART OF THAT DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU'VE ALL HAD?

>> I DON'T KNOW ONE THAT'S MOVED.

I KNOW ONE THAT EXISTS.

IN A PREVIOUS DISTRICT I WORKED, THERE WAS A NEW TECH MODEL SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL, HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL, AND BUILT THAT CULTURE, AND THOSE STUDENTS DID TAKE OTHER CLASSES, AND [INAUDIBLE] THEIR CORE CLASSES WERE ALWAYS WITHIN THAT PIECE, AND THEY BUILT THAT CULTURE AND THEN THEY COULD TAKE BAND OR FINE ARTS, OR WHATEVER OUT.

I KNOW IT CAN BE DONE.

I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY A TON OF OTHER MODELS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AND RESEARCHING.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH THE TRANSITION TEAMS, AND LOOKING AT THAT, AND USING OUR OWN LEARNERS, USING OUR OWN STAFF, AND USING OUR PARENTS TO HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SHAPING THE MODEL THE WAY OUR COMMUNITY WANTS IT TO BE.

>> WELL, WE HAD A MEETING, I GUESS IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH ONE OF THE NEW TECH REPS. SHE DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK WITH US SO MUCH ANYMORE, BUT IS VERY INVOLVED IN THAT ORGANIZATION, AND SHE INDICATED TO US THAT THE NETWORK IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS, TRYING TO STAY COMPETITIVE, BOTH SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL AS WELL AS DISTRICTS JUST LIKE OURS THAT ARE DEALING WITH THE DECLINING ENROLLMENT, AND THEY'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS.

HOW DOES THAT IMPACT JUST LIKE THE GROUP DID WHEN IB WAS WAY MORE FLEXIBLE RECENTLY THAN THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY, AT LEAST IN TEXAS, BECAUSE OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT OTHER DISTRICTS ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT WE ARE AS WELL? SHE'LL CONTINUE TO BE A RESOURCE TO US.

>> WE HAD VERY LENGTHY CONVERSATION, DUG INTO THIS, AND GAVE US SOME GREAT IDEAS OF SCHOOLS ACROSS THE NATION THAT ARE DEALING WITH IT, AND SOME OF THE WAYS THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.

WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT RESOURCE INSIDE THE NEW TECH NETWORK TO HELP US, AND HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO CONNECT US IN A COUPLE OTHER STATES.

>> I DO WANT TO TAKE A HALF-STEP BACK, BECAUSE PART OF THIS IS ADDRESSING A PROBLEM THAT WE FIND WITH PART OF THE WORK OF DOING THE RE-IMAGINE AND THE FOCUS WAS LIKE, HEY, WHY ARE YOU NOT CHOOSING NEW TECH? SOME OF THESE THINGS, ONE, I THINK WAS PERCEPTION, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER REASON.

DOES THAT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? NUMBER 1, WHAT WAS THAT PROBLEM, IF YOU CAN ARTICULATE IT AGAIN, AND THEN DOES THIS EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM?

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME UP.

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AS YOU STATED, THERE WAS PERCEPTION ISSUES, BUT THERE WERE ALSO THE SHUTTLES AS A BARRIER AND THE COURSES THAT THEY COULD TAKE AS A BARRIER.

MAYBE THEY COULDN'T BE FULLY AND TAKE ALL OF THE BAND COURSES THAT THEY WANTED TO TAKE, OR THEY COULDN'T GET REALLY INTO DEBATE.

THE STUDENTS WERE HAVING TO MAKE A CHOICE BETWEEN, DO I REALLY WANT TO TAKE THESE ELECTIVES, BE A PART OF THIS, OR DO I WANT TO BE AT NEW TECH? THAT'S WHAT WE KEPT HEARING OVER AND OVER IS THERE WERE THESE ROADBLOCKS, THESE BARRIERS TO THAT.

THAT BUBBLED UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

REMEMBER, WE TALKED TO A LOT OF NEW TECH STUDENTS, A LOT, BUT WE TALKED TO A LOT OF CHS STUDENTS WHO DIDN'T CHOOSE IT.

WHAT THEY KEPT SAYING IS THERE ARE ROADBLOCKS ALONG THE WAY, AND I WANTED TO TAKE FRENCH OR I WANTED TO TAKE ASL, OR I DIDN'T WANT HAVE TO TAKE A BUS TO GO TO BAND.

THERE ARE JUST SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WHILST YOU WERE TALKING TO THE CHS STUDENTS THAT KEPT COMING UP.

>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE LIMITED ON YOUR CTE PROGRAMS AS WELL.

YOUR PROGRAMS OF STUDY HAVE MORE OFFERINGS WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT AS AN ELECTIVE AS WELL. SORRY, KRISTIN.

>> WE SEE THAT WITH THE TRANSFER PROCESS.

WE DO HAVE STUDENTS EACH YEAR THAT HAVE TRIED NEW TECH FOR A YEAR OR TWO, AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T LOVE THE CULTURE OR THOSE CORE PIECES, BUT THOSE THINGS THAT MS. BROWN HAS ALREADY SAID, THE TRANSPORTATION PIECES, THE LACK OF CLASSES THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE, OR MAYBE EVEN THEIR FRIEND GROUPS THAT THEY REALLY BONDED WITH ON THE ONE OR TWO CLASSES THAT THEY ALREADY ARE TAKING AT CHS, HAVE CAUSED THEM TO MAKE A DECISION TO TRANSFER.

WE'RE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS INCREASE IN RECENT YEARS, AND IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE FINISHING THEIR FRESHMAN YEAR AND TRANSFERRING AT THEIR SOPHOMORE YEAR.

EVEN FOR NEXT YEAR WE HAVE STUDENTS AT EACH GRADE LEVEL RISING, SOPHOMORES, JUNIORS, AND EVEN SENIORS THAT ARE ASKING TO TRANSFER OR MAKING THOSE REQUESTS FOR THOSE SAME REASONS.

>> BUT WE ALSO FULLY RECOGNIZE THERE ARE SOME KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER TO CHS FOR ANYTHING.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THAT'S GREAT, BUT THAT'S A SMALLER NUMBER OF STUDENTS.

THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS IF WE HAD MORE STUDENTS THAT FIT THAT CATEGORY, WE MIGHT BE HAVING DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT US TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE WORK RELATED TO THE BUDGET.

ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE NOT BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S BETTER OR SOMETHING WE JUST WANT TO DO.

AS DIANA SAID, THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY.

WHAT DAVID SAID AT THE BEGINNING I THINK WAS GREAT.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO SAY NO TO SOME THINGS, BUT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SAY YES TO WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP THINGS AFLOAT?

>> I WAS JUST GETTING TO THE POINT OF LIKE THERE'S A DUALITY TO THIS, THAT THERE IS A DESIRE.

OUR DESIRE, I THINK, EVEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROGRAMS OVER FACILITIES, MAKE THE PROGRAM THE BEST IT CAN BE.

AT A HIGH LEVEL, IT SEEMS TO BE ADDRESSING A PROBLEM WITH THE PROGRAM EXTENDING ITS GROWTH PER SE, OR IT COULD BE.

THE OTHER THING I'M WONDERING ABOUT, AND I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE THING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU DO, LIKE THE EVENTS THAT THEY PUT ON AT NEW TECH, LIKE THE HAUNTED HOUSE, THE SPRING FESTIVAL, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE ENJOYED, I LOVE TAKING MY KIDS TO OR WHATEVER.

TRYING TO HAVE THAT EXIST IN THE HIGH SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO TRY TO DO AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT CAREFULLY.

BUT TO YOUR POINT AS WELL, THE TRADE-OFFS BECOME A LOT.

LET ME BRING ANOTHER PIECE OF THE '25-'26, WHICH IS THE SECONDARY SCHEDULING AND INSTRUCTION BECAUSE THESE ARE TRADE-OFFS THAT WE ARE MAKING.

THERE'S A BUDGETARY CONSTRAINT, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE TRADE-OFFS TO FIND WHAT TO DO.

IT'S VERY INTENTIONAL IN MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE STUDY OF THE BENEFITS OF THE PLC TIME, THE BENEFITS OF BLOCK SCHEDULING, AND WHAT THAT DOES FOR OUR STUDENT OUTCOMES.

WE'RE IN A MODE NOW WHERE WE HAVE TO PICK BETWEEN WHAT ARE WE VALUING AND NOT.

THERE'S A PIECE OF THAT THAT'S IN HERE THOUGH.

WE'RE LOOKING IN '25-26 TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME STUDENT SCHEDULE CHANGES IN SOME PLC TIME.

>> SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ONE IS THE STUDENT SCHEDULE CHANGES AND LOOKING AT YOUR GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN ALSO POSSIBLY REQUIRING AN OFF PERIOD FOR STUDENTS.

IF YOU'RE THINKING AT STUDENTS THAT GET BY THEIR JUNIOR OR SENIOR YEAR INSTEAD OF SAYING, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TAKING A FULL LOAD, AND A LOT OF DISTRICTS HAVE MOVED TO THIS.

IT IS MORE OF A REQUIRED OFF PERIOD THAT YOU HAVE ONCE YOU

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GET SOME OF THOSE COURSEWORK AND YOU HAVE YOUR GRADUATION PLAN AND YOU'RE READY.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS ESSENTIAL TO THAT, AND THIS IS A LOT OF GREAT WORK TOO THAT MS. BROWN AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING, HOW CAN WE CONNECT STUDENTS WITH INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

HOW CAN WE HAVE A WORK RELEASE PIECE? HOW CAN WE HAVE OUR ENTREPRENEURSHIP COURSE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THROUGH CTE THAT ALLOWS FOR THOSE THINGS? IT'S NOT JUST SAY, HEY, GO TAKE AN OFF PERIOD.

SORRY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OR FUND IT.

IT'S ACTUALLY SAYING HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT THAT TO POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM IN THEIR CAREER TRAJECTORY OR COLLEGE TRAJECTORY AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS, TWO ARE ALREADY TAKING DUAL CREDIT COURSES.

IT'S REALLY JUST LOOKING AT THAT AND THEN TIGHTENING THAT TO SAY, HERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO DO AND PUT IN PLACE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TOO THAT WE'RE HELPING THEM WITH THE CONTINUITY OF WHAT THEY WOULD DO DURING THAT, AND IT'S NOT JUST OFF TIME.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE TO IT.

>> I TRUST YOUR VALUE. YOU SAID EARLIER, YOU WANTED US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TIE IT BACK TO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THIS ALIGNS WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THIS ACTUALLY IS 4.1, 4.2 RIGHT HERE.

THAT LAST ONE THAT'S EXPLORE SECONDARY STUDENT SCHEDULES.

PART OF THAT WORK SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND FIND INTERNSHIPS AND CONNECTIONS FOR STUDENTS.

WELL, THIS IS JUST TYING THAT BEAUTIFULLY IN.

CAN WE BUILD THOSE INTERNSHIPS, THOSE CONNECTIONS TO STUDENTS AS ONE OF THEIR OFF PERIODS? THIS WORK WILL ALIGN BEAUTIFULLY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH 4.1 AND 4.2, AND THAT WORK, AS YOU'LL HEAR ON MAY 19, WILL BEGIN NEXT YEAR AND IS PERFECTLY ALIGNED WITH THIS EXPLORATION.

THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL ALIGNMENT OF CONTINUING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

>> MR. MATTHEW, YOU MENTIONED TOO, TALKING ABOUT PLC AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND THINKING EVEN ABOUT, LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT SCHEDULE.

AS WE'RE GOING INTO '25-'26, DECISIONS WEREN'T MADE TO BE ABLE TO IMPACT.

COURSE GUIDES COME OUT IN DECEMBER.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT ANYTHING WITH MASTER SCHEDULE, THAT'S DONE HERE IN AUGUST, LATEST IS SEPTEMBER WITHIN THAT.

EVEN THINKING ABOUT PLC TIMES FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, WE DID AT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL CAMPUSES.

IT IS JUST THE CORE TEACHERS THAT HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL OFF PERIOD WITHIN THERE, AND THEN LOOKING TO SEE WHAT NEXT STEPS WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN WITH THAT MOVING FORWARD.

I WILL SAY JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, I WAS MEETING WITH A TEACHER THE OTHER DAY FOR A BIT AND SHE WORKS AT CHS. SHE'S AN AMAZING TEACHER.

SHE HAS 180 STUDENTS ON HER CASELOAD RIGHT NOW OF STUDENTS THAT SHE'S SEEING AND SHE'S AN ENGLISH TEACHER.

I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO ALSO TO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE GRADING, THE REFLECTIONS, THE FEEDBACK THAT'S REQUIRED, AND TALKING ABOUT THAT PLC TIME IS ALSO TO THE COLLABORATIVE TIME, THE DATA ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO IT, AND IT ALSO HAS THAT COUNTERBALANCE OF THINGS.

WHEN THINGS ARE IMPACTED WITHIN THERE AND WE HAVE OUR CURRENT LOADS OF STUDENTS WITHIN THERE, IT IS HIGHLY ESSENTIAL THAT WE'RE ALSO REALLY GIVING TIME TO OUR TEACHERS TO THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN KEEP ONCE AGAIN THE FIDELITY OF A SYSTEM.

I JUST MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

>> MS. BROWN, YOU TALKED ABOUT INTERNSHIPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

HOW DO WE EXPAND THAT OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE SMALL POOL OF INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES THAT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF COPPELL ISD? BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, YOU HAVE TO GROW THERE.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE OUT YEARS?

>> I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

YOU SAID WE EXHAUSTED IT.

THAT'S NOT TRUE, WE HAVE NOT.

>> I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO DO THAT.

>> WE HAVE NOT [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO LAUNCH FOR THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR INTERNSHIP CLASS.

WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY FOR ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THAT CLASS TO HAVE A YEAR-LONG INTERNSHIP.

REALLY, THAT'S OUR FOOTSTEP INTO THIS.

REMEMBER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 2019.

SINCE 2019, WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THIS AND GROWING ADULTING DAY.

WE ADD A JOB SHADOWING DAY.

WE'VE ADDED SUMMER INTERNSHIPS, OR SUMMER INTERNSHIPS FOR ONE WEEK.

NOW, OUR SUMMER INTERNSHIPS ARE THE ENTIRE SUMMER.

WE ARE ADDING NOW YEAR-LONG INTERNSHIPS AND GROWING THAT.

WE HAVE 250 COMPANIES AT THIS POINT THAT ARE A PART OF THIS, AND IT'S EXPANDING BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

IT'S THE CURRICULUM INSTRUCTION SIDE PARTNERING WITH THE BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP SIDE, THAT ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF US WORKING TOGETHER, AND THEY REALLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD THAT.

WE DO HAVE A ROBUST GROUP AND THE SUPERINTENDENT BUSINESS ADVISORY COUNCIL IS [OVERLAPPING] COMMITTED TO IT AND THE CTE ADVISORY.

THEY'RE BOTH COMMITTED TO IT.

I KNOW THAT WE CAN GROW IT.

I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN GROW THIS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS, AND THAT IS THE WORK OF 4.1, 4.2.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE WORK SAYS IN

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OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUILD THAT? AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING ON MAY 19, I WILL BE SHARING MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> SOME OF THESE ARE ALSO TWO, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.

INTERNSHIPS ARE WONDERFUL.

A LOT OF OUR KIDS ALSO GOING THROUGH SCHOOL ARE WORKING.

THEY ARE GETTING JOBS.

THEY'RE LIKE, YES, IT'S AN INTERNSHIP, BUT I GO, IT'S AN INTERNSHIP WHILE YOU'RE GETTING PAID.

YOU'RE ON THE JOB, YOU'RE DOING THE DIFFERENT THINGS WITHIN THERE.

THIS IS ALSO TO PART OF THAT ENTREPRENEURSHIP CLASS IS NOT JUST INTERNSHIPS, IT ACTUALLY HAS THE WORK RELEASE TO SAY, I'M LEARNING REAL-WORLD SKILLS BECAUSE I AM HERE DOING THIS PARTICULAR WORK.

YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE PARTNERSHIPS TOO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED AS A DISTRICT FOR YEARS.

HEY, WELDING, HEY, LOOKING AT PLUMBING, LOOKING AT HVAC.

HOW ARE WE CONNECTING THEM WITH EITHER POSSIBLE DUAL CREDIT COURSES THAT THEY COULD ALSO TAKE? BUT ALSO TOO, HOW ARE WE BUILDING UP SOME OF THOSE CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE CAN OFFER FOR KIDS, THAT SOMETIMES WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT ON SITE, BUT LIKE ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS AND CHIPS GOOD FRIENDS, HE HAS A PLUMBING COMPANY THAT'S RIGHT HERE IN LAKE DALLAS AREA THAT HE CURRENTLY HAS LOUISVILLE ISD STUDENTS THAT ARE LEARNING HOW TO BE APPRENTICES THAT ARE GOING INTO THAT.

THEY HAVE AN OFF PERIOD, OR THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK THAT IT'S LOOKING AT ALL AREAS WITHIN THERE AND NOT JUST LIMITING OURSELF ALSO TO JUST THINK ABOUT, OH, IT'S AN INTERNSHIP WITH A MAJOR CORPORATION.

WE HAVE LOCAL COMPANIES TOO THAT WE CAN ALSO RECRUIT FROM OR WORK WITH.

>> I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON YOUR COMMENTS TOO.

IN REGARDS TO OPPORTUNITIES WITH COMPANIES, ONE IS TO PROVIDE INTERNSHIPS.

WHAT ABOUT EXTERNSHIPS, NUMBER 1, IN THAT QUESTION? NUMBER 2, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO GET INVOLVED WITH GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT COMPANIES MAY HAVE? I KNOW THAT IT'S A TIGHT MARKETPLACE, ETC., BUT ARE THERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT, BECAUSE YOU DID TALK ABOUT GRANTS?

>> YEAH. IN 4.1 AND 4.2, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT.

AS WE DO THAT WORK, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THOSE PIECES. YEAH.

>> ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET IN LIST [INAUDIBLE] I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHILE YOU'RE BRINGING IT TO US FROM AN ENROLLMENT STANDPOINT AS WELL AS A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED FROM US IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS OF THAT AS IT DEVELOPS.

WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU NEED FROM US? I THINK FROM AN ENROLLMENT AND BUDGETARY STANDPOINT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT MAKES COMMON SENSE TO SAY, LIKE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

IT'S ALSO WHAT [INAUDIBLE] HAS RECOMMENDED.

BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US TONIGHT FROM A DIRECTION STANDPOINT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT?

>> [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THERE, JOBBY, BECAUSE JUST TO GO UP A LITTLE HIGHER, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, WHICH I REALIZE THAT WE HAVE HAD IT IN ADVANCE, BUT OUR COMMUNITY IS SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I APPRECIATE THE DISTRICT AND STAFF PUTTING ALL THE HARD WORK AND PUTTING ALL YOUR CARDS ON THE TABLE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE YEARNED FOR FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF HOW DOES IT ALL FIT INTO A FIVE-YEAR PLAN? HOW ARE WE BEING STRATEGIC? WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALL OUT IN THE OPEN HERE. THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

YET, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING VERY QUICKLY INTO THE SPECIFICS WHEN THIS IS BASICALLY THE OPENING.

I GUESS I AM CURIOUS, ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE GOING TO SAY, YEAH, WE TAKE IT, LET'S MOVE FORWARD, LET'S CLOSE TWO SCHOOLS BY SEPTEMBER.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH BALANCING URGENCY AND INFORMATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD, LIKE CONSOLIDATING TWO SCHOOLS, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING NEW TECH HIGH, WHICH I WOULD OFFER UP TO YOU GUYS THAT WE SAID A YEAR AGO, I WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THREE YEARS.

HOW DO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT THAT, CREATING A WHOLE ENTIRE NEW VIRTUAL PROGRAM? THESE ARE ALL HUGE THINGS THAT WE ARE HEARING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW WHAT I WOULD NEED TO SEE TO CONSOLIDATE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT GOODNESS GRACIOUS.

THAT FIRST THING SAYS, CONSOLIDATE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FOR '26-'27.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND SEE WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION HERE THAT THIS MEETING RIGHT HERE NOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS OR DO WE NEGOTIATE AND TALK?

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I THINK I MIGHT NEED SOME CLARITY IN THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHY WE GOT A TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, AND MULTIPLE MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS, I THINK TO HASH THAT OUT AND DISCUSS.

I WOULD PUSH BACK ON THE THREE YEAR BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, NEW TECH SPECIFICALLY WAS TO COME TO US WITH THE PLAN TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE OR TO MAKE THE PROGRAM SURVIVE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

BUT I DON'T THINK TONIGHT IS SAYING WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH ANY OF THIS.

THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, AND WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF MEETINGS SET UP OR PROPOSED.

YOU REALLY START DIVING INTO THE DETAILS AND THE MINUTIA AND REALLY LEARNING.

IS IT WORTH DOING? IS IT NOT WORTH DOING OR HOW DO WE WANT TO APPROACH IT? THAT'S HOW I INTERPRETED WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY.

>> I WOULD GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER.

IF WE DON'T DO A, WHAT WILL WE DO? WHEN LOOKING AT THESE PLANS, IT IS IMPLEMENTING EVERY SINGLE THING ON THESE LISTS, WHICH IS WHAT IS GOING TO GET US TO THAT BALANCED BUDGET.

SOME MAY REALIZE MORE SAVINGS, SOME MAY REALIZE LESS SAVINGS AS WE WALK THROUGH THAT AND WE'VE DETERMINED HOW THAT IS IMPLEMENTED.

WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE THESE HARD DECISIONS.

WE HAVE BEEN AVOIDING MAKING HARD DECISIONS UNTIL THIS PAST SUMMER WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION TO CONSOLIDATE PINKERTON AND THE DLI PROGRAM.

THAT WAS HARD. THIS IS GOING TO BE HARDER, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU, BUT WE CAN'T NOT DO IT, WE HAVE TO DO IT.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO SAVE THAT MONEY.

IF IT'S NOT ONE OF THESE ITEMS, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING WITH THE SAME DOLLAR VALUE.

I WANT TO ECHO WHAT JOBBY SAID BECAUSE WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT AND AGREEMENT.

BUT ALL OF THOSE SCENARIOS SHOWED A ZERO RAISE AND WE HAVE TO GIVE A RAISE.

WE ALWAYS HAVE.

NOT GIVING A RAISE FOR ONE YEAR PUTS US BACK SEVERAL YEARS FROM A COMPETITIVE STANDPOINT.

NOT EVEN CONSIDERING INFLATION, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE YEAR THAT THE COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE DOES NOT GO UP.

WE WON'T GET THOSE PRICES UNTIL JUNE, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY, AND SO TO GIVE NO RAISE IS ESSENTIALLY PAYING PEOPLE LESS NEXT YEAR EVEN JUST FROM THAT VANTAGE POINT.

THE RAISE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE GENEROUSLY, 3% LAST YEAR, HALF OF THAT WENT TO THE INCREASED HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS OF AN INDIVIDUAL PAY FOR THEMSELVES, NOT EVEN CONSIDERING FOR A FAMILY.

>> I SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S EVEN MORE URGENCY THAN WHAT WE HAVE PAINTED IN THIS PICTURE THAT SHOWS NO RAISE.

SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING, BUT IN MY MIND, 3% IS BOTTOM LINE.

IT MOVES US FORWARD A LITTLE.

IT DOESN'T KEEP UP WITH INFLATION, BUT IT KEEPS US COMPETITIVE AND IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHER DISTRICTS ARE LOOKING AT AND TALKING ABOUT AND THE AVERAGE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WE COMPETE WITH OUR EMPLOYEES FOR AND BOTTOM LINE, IT'S THE EMPLOYEES IN THE DISTRICT THAT DO ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THE URGENCY IS NOT JUST WHAT YOU SAW, BUT ADD ABOUT $3 MILLION TO EACH ONE OF THOSE YEARS REPETITIVELY JUST TO REMAIN WHERE WE ARE.

>> LAST YEAR, WHEN WE SURVEYED SURROUNDING DISTRICTS ABOUT WHO WAS GOING TO DO WHAT, EARLY ON, EVERYBODY WAS LIKE 0-1, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT SHIFTED AND PEOPLE WENT AS HIGH AS FOUR.

NOW, SOME OF THOSE DISTRICTS DID THEIR HARD WORK A YEAR OR SO AGO, AND SO THEY HAD SOME WIGGLE ROOM AND THEY HAD SOME FUND BALANCE OR JUST BETTER EFFICIENCIES, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY FIGURED OUT A WAY TO DO THAT.

THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT DIDN'T GIVE ANYTHING, THEIR STAFF HURT PRETTY HARD OVER THAT, AND WE RECEIVED SOME PEOPLE FROM THAT, AND SO YOU HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS ANTHONY.

WAIT, I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF THE LAST TIME WE DIDN'T GIVE ANY RAISE.

>> IT WAS 11/12.

>> MOST OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS DIDN'T GIVE ANYTHING EITHER.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE SAID, WE WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE IN JOBS VERSUS LOSING STAFFING POSITIONS. THAT WAS JUST [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT WAS THAT BAD FINANCIAL [OVERLAPPING] 11/12 WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE GAVE ZERO.

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>> I HAVE TWO THOUGHTS.

THIS RECOMMENDATION SCHOOL WITHIN SCHOOL IS ALSO MENTIONED IN THE CRC REPORT.

WAS THAT A PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH REIMAGINING AND REBRANDING NEW TECH THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, THAT COMMITTEE? IS IT IDEA DISCUSSED OVER THERE?

>> IT CAME UP. TWO TIMES, I WOULD NOT SAY IT WAS A ROBUST CONVERSATION.

WELL, IT DID COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES AS WE WERE DISCUSSING IT.

WE REALLY FOCUSED MORE ON THE PERCEPTIONS AND THE BARRIERS AND THOSE KINDS OF PIECES WHEN WE WERE DIGGING INTO THE FOCUS GROUPS.

>> I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT IS ONE THING THAT CAN BE REBRANDING.

JUST THE APPETITE OF THAT GROUP, WHO IS PART OF THE REBRANDING WORK.

ALSO I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT COST SAVING WITH THIS OPTION.

WHAT WOULD BE A LINE ITEM OR TWO ADDING? IT CAN BE A SMALL EXPENSE, IF IMPLEMENTED, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO SCHOOL WITHIN SCHOOL? LET'S SAY IF WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT CHANGE.

>> WE SHOULD SEE COST SAVINGS BY MOVING NEW TECH HIGH INTO COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL.

THE SIGNIFICANT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE ALL THE SHUTTLES FROM BETWEEN NEW TECH AND THE TWO OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THERE WOULD BE SOME STAFFING SAVINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

>> ADDING TO YOUR POINT, I'M SORRY, CHRISTINE, IS THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING FROM REIMAGING BECAUSE AS ANGEL SAID, THOSE WERE TWO SEPARATE CRCS RECOMMENDATION AND REIMAGINING GROUP.

THERE COULD BE SOME BRANDING AND MAYBE SOME MINOR THAT WE COULD HANDLE MAINTENANCE WISE, IF A ROOM NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED OR ADDED OR WHATEVER.

WE HAVE SOME ON DOLLARS FOR THAT TOO.

WE WOULD TRY TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, BUT YES, THERE COULD BE SOME INCREMENTAL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE BECAUSE OF THAT, IF YOU RELOCATE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THAT SPACE? IN THE SHORT TERM, WOULD IT JUST BE IDLE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT BECAUSE WHEN I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING ACCESS TO FACILITIES, YOU DON'T GET LAND, YOU DON'T GET BUILDINGS.

WHAT WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT IN A UNIQUE WAY, IF ANY, OR IS THAT SOMETHING DOWN THE LINE, AND THIS WOULD BE TO JUST ADDRESS THE NEED OF MOVING THE SUITS TO REDUCE THE EXPENSE.

>> I THINK SOME OF THAT WOULD BE MORE DOWN THE LINE, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME GENERAL IDEAS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH THESE CONVERSATIONS.

WE HESITATE TO SAY, TOO MUCH BECAUSE THERE'S FOR WHATEVER REASON, SOCIAL MEDIA WORLD THAT SAYS, WE'RE CLOSING A SCHOOL TO MAKE AN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING OR WE'RE CLOSING THIS TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE THIS IS SURVIVAL.

WE DON'T WANT BUILDINGS TO SIT IDLE.

WE WANT TO BE INNOVATIVE AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP OUR DISTRICT MOVING FORWARD FINANCIALLY.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> GIVEN THE URGENCY OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE LAID OUT FOR US TO TACKLE IN THE 2025-2026 SCHOOL YEAR.

SOMETHING THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME IN PREPARING FOR TONIGHT IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE '26-'27.

WHY WOULD WE WAIT UNTIL '26-'27 ON THE SHUTTLE REDUCTION BETWEEN CHS AND CHS 9, AND WHY WOULD WE WAIT UNTIL THEN TO EXPLORE PAY TO RIDE FOR SHUTTLES AND HOME TO SCHOOL ROUTES? WHY WOULD WE NOT DO THAT THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, ESPECIALLY SINCE ONE OF THEM IS REVENUE GENERATING?

>> I THINK VARIETY OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH STUDENT SCHEDULING AND THE COURSES THAT THEY ARE OFFERED.

IF THOSE STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY CHOSEN THEIR COURSES FOR NUMBER OF SHARES.

>> WHY WOULD WE NOT EXPLORE PAY TO RIDE IN '25-'26 THEN WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING IT A YEAR EARLIER THAN WHAT IS ON HERE?

>> I THINK WE CAN. THESE ARE IDEAS THAT ARE NOT JUST RECOMMENDED EITHER FROM CRC OR FROM STAFF.

WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BOARD MEMBERS GIVES THEIR INPUT AND FEEDBACK.

WE HAVE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH DOING SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY WITH DURHAM ANYWAY, SO IT COULD BE A PART OF THAT.

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BUT YOU ALL KNOW TOO, AS DIANA ALLUDED TO, YOU START PLANNING FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR SHORTLY AFTER THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR STARTS.

SOME OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH WHAT WAS ALREADY PROMISED TO KIDS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.

>> FOR SURE.

>> I THINK WE ALSO WERE LOOKING AT THE SHUTTLES BEING REDUCED IF NEW TECH MOVED INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY [OVERLAPPING] I THINK THAT EXPLORATION WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION TOO.

>> EXACTLY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TACKLED IN '25-'26, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR PEOPLE WHO ARE LEADING THE WORK.

I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WE HAD TO LOOK WHAT STRATEGICALLY IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US AS MUCH OF THAT WE CAN PUT OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON THIS WORK.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT WAS ONE PIECE THAT WE ALL AGREED THAT WE FELT LIKE WE COULD DO.

PAY TO RIDE FOR ALL FOR SCHOOL TO HOME SHUTTLES IS GOING TO BE A MASSIVE PROJECT.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, THE MASSIVE SHIFT THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE, AND THE HEAVY LIFT THAT WILL BE.

AS I BEGAN TO DIG INTO THAT, THAT'S TOTALLY DOING SO WE WILL NOT BE OFFERING ANY BUSSING EXCEPT FOR WHAT'S REQUIRED.

JUST START TO PUT YOUR WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND THAT.

THAT'S A LOT. THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESSES THAT WOULD HAVE TO PUT INTO PLACE.

HONESTLY, I THINK WE JUST NEEDED TO GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT TIME IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS AND THEN GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR THAT.

THAT'S REALLY THE PAY TO RIDE FOR THE HOME TO SCHOOL.

I NEEDED JUST SOME TIME SO THAT WE COULD PUT SYSTEMS IN PLACE AND MAKE SURE WE COULD HANDLE ALL OF THAT.

THE PAY TO RIDE FOR SHUTTLES, I THINK WE COULD MOVE UP.

THAT PIECE, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD PULL SEPARATE FROM IT AND PULL THAT ONE UP.

IN CONVERSATIONS WITH CHS 9 AND CHS, WE FELT LIKE WE COULD GET 50% BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO DRASTICALLY AFFECT OUR FINE ARTS AND OUR ATHLETICS.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE THAT IS. HONESTLY, IT'S 80% OF ITS FINAL. IT IS ATHLETICS.

GETTING THOSE TWO, AND THAT'S REALLY FIGURING THAT PIECE OUT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE SWIM SHUTTLES TAKEN CARE OF, WE HAVE A SOLUTION FOR SWIM SHUTTLES.

THAT'S 12 THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED AUTOMATICALLY.

IF WE DO SCHOOL WITHIN A SCHOOL, WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE NEW TECH ONES.

ALL WE WILL HAVE LEFT ARE THE CHS AND THE CHS 9, SO WE COULD CONSIDER THOSE PAY TO RIDE, AND THEN OUR GOAL WAS TO AT LEAST DECREASE THOSE BY 50%.

THAT WAS REALLY HOW WE'VE BEEN [OVERLAPPING] SHARE STEPPING THAT A LITTLE BIT SO WE COULD TACKLE IT KNOWING OF THE PIECES THAT WERE A PLAY.

>> THERE IS A REMINDER TO OUR BOARDING COMMUNITY, WE ARE A DISTRICT PRE-K 12 THAT UTILIZES OUR BUS SERVICES.

>> HIGH UTILIZATION OF OUR BUS.

>> THERE WAS A 350 SHUTTLE NUMBER ON THAT.

IS THAT JUST CHS TO CHS 9? IS THAT WHAT THAT 350 IS?

>> NO. THAT'S THE NEW TECH.

>> THAT'S THE NEW TECH AND I THINK [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT WAS THE NEW TECH.

>> NEW TECH. THAT WAS ALREADY EMBEDDED AND CONSOLIDATE THE CHANGING OF NEW TECH.

>> NEW TECH WAS [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S RIGHT.

BECAUSE THE NEW TECH WAS TWO FITS WHAT I WAS THINKING NCH IS ABOUT 100.

BECAUSE SWIM IS 12 ROUTES.

WE'RE ALREADY DOING SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS TO THAT.

FROM ABOUT $600,000 TO ABOUT 200 SO IF YOU COUNT ALL OF THOSE THREE STEPS.

I THINK THERE WAS THAT ONE SLIDE THAT HAD MOVING AND ADDITIONAL.

IT DIDN'T PRINT ON SLIDES.

>> THE ITEMS OF THE '25-'26 SCHOOL YEAR LISTED UP THERE.

HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATIONS VERSUS MULTI YEAR IMPLEMENTATIONS? ARE THEY ALL ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATIONS?

>> YES. THEY ARE ALL THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE FOR THE '26-'27 SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH WOULD IMPACT THE '26-'26 BUDGET.

AS LONG AS THE DECISIONS WERE MADE EARLY ENOUGH TO DO THEM?

>> ONE THING, LEIGH, I WANT TO TOUCH ON WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. THIS IS A LOT.

THIS IS WHY I SAID WHAT I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING IN TERMS OF THE THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OVERARCHING AND CONCERNED WITH.

BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE DETAILS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LOOK LIKE, WE'RE NOT THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT THE TOP THINGS UNDERPIN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

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ONCE YOU GET IN THE WEEDS, YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

THIS IS A LOT CHANGE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT MY COMMENT WAS EARLIER, WE HAVE TO LEAVE HERE WITH LIKE A FRAMEWORK TO PROVIDE THE DISTRICT TO WORK ON.

BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ALIGN, I THINK ON A FRAMEWORK, AND SO WHAT THEY CAN GO WORK ON A FIND, THEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO TIME TIME TO MAKE A DECISION, WE'RE GOING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE? WE DID THINK ABOUT THAT.

THEN WE'RE IN THIS MASSIVE HOLE THAT CONTINUES FINANCIALLY.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS PRESENTATION, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, I WAS LIKE, WE HAVE TO LEAVE HERE WITH. THESE ARE THE BUCKETS.

THEN WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US OR WHAT ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR HOW DO WE PROVE OUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BUCKET? WAS MY THOUGHT.

>> BUT I THINK THE SCHEDULE THAT WAS GIVEN ALLOWS US TO GO THROUGH THE THING THAT HAPPENED.

TO YOUR POINT, PRESIDENT CAVINESS EARLY ON, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.

WE'VE HAD THIS INFORMATION THAT SURROUND US.

NOW WE'VE GOT A TIMELINE TO GO THROUGH THERE, AND I THINK THAT GIVES US A CAPACITY TO DO WHAT I THINK, TRUSTEE WALKER, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TO ABSORB THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE DATES ALREADY LISTED AND THEY HAVE ACTION ITEMS LISTED WITH THEM, THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND LET'S GO THROUGH AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AT THAT TIME.

BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, JUST TO TAKE IT ALL IN.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT JUST FOR '25-'26 AND YOU HAVE THE EIGHT BULLETS, ALL OF THAT STUFF, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THE PEOPLE ALONG TO US IMPACTED BY IT.

THAT'S WHERE I THINK TO YOUR POINT, AT LEAST WHERE I'M INTERPRET IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE TO SAY THAT FROM A BOARD STANDPOINT IS GREAT, THE PEOPLE IMPACTED SAYS, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, LET ME ABSORB THIS AND LET ME BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS TO HELP TO GUIDE SUPPORT THE WORK THAT IS BEING DRIVEN OUT OF THE NECESSITY AS DR. HUNT TALKED ABOUT IN EARLIER COMMENTS.

>> IN NO WAY AM I SAYING, THIS IS IT, WE'RE DONE HERE.

IT'S JUST LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LANDING ON.

IT'S JUST LIKE, THIS IS A PLAN, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MARCH OUT TO PROVE IT OUT AND GET FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? IS THIS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE? THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DELIVER ON? BUT IF WE DON'T WANT TO LINE ON THE, AT LEAST THIS IS GENERALLY A DIRECTION WE WANT TO INVESTIGATE, THEN WE'RE KIND OF LISTLESS A LITTLE BIT.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S WHAT MY HEAD WAS IN TERMS OF [OVERLAPPING]

>> THIS WOULD BE THE PLAN.

LOOKING AT '25-'26, COMING TOGETHER, GETTING THE CRT FEEDBACK, SEEING WHERE WE ALSO, TO, AS A CABINET HAVE ALIGNED, THIS WOULD BE LOOKING AT '25-'26, ALL OF THOSE BULLET POINTS.

ONCE AGAIN, THERE WOULD NEED BOARD ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON SOME OF THE SPECIFICS WITHIN THERE AND ONCE AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR WITH OUR TRANSITION TEAMS AND THINKING ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'VE HAD NOT ONLY WITH OUR OUTSIDE GROUP THAT HAS WORKED ON THE NEW TECH, THINKING ABOUT THE REIMAGINING, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD STILL BE GOING IN PLACE, BUT FOR YOU ALL, THIS WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE SAYING, HERE'S THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO TO GET.

I'M HIGHLY CONCERNED AS A STAFF MEMBER.

IF WE'RE NOT MAKING THE DECISIONS RIGHT NOW, I KNOW THE CUTS AND I KNOW THE THINGS THAT HAVE IMPACTED RIGHT NOW, CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION, AND I THINK ABOUT WHAT SOME OTHER DISTRICTS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

I USE AN EXAMPLE AS A CLOSED DISTRICT TO US, JUST CUT ALL OF THEIR BEHAVIOR SPECIALIST POSITIONS.

BOOM, LIKE THAT, AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT ANYMORE.

I THINK ABOUT OUR POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE SUPPORTING NOT ONLY SPECIAL EDUCATION, BUT GENERAL EDUCATION.

IF YOU START JUST SLICING DIFFERENT POSITIONS LIKE THAT, THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE SO GREAT TO WHERE WE'RE NOT MAKING SOME OF THE LARGER DECISIONS WITHIN THAT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, YOU START HAVING TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WHEN I SAID BARE BONED RIGHT NOW, IN FACT, VERY BARE BONE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED WITH NOT ONLY HAVING THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, BUT ALSO TO OUR ADMINISTRATORS THAT ARE LEADING THE CAMPUSES, BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL.

>> APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAY, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT TOO, AND WE'RE SEEING SOME HIGH PERFORMING DISTRICTS THAT ARE GOING BACK TO THE BASICS OF WHAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO.

BUT JOBBY, I THINK, TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TOO, FOR ME, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO START DIGGING INTO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TONIGHT TO SAY, WE DO WANT TO DO THIS, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING EARLIER WITH THE COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED CALENDAR YOU GUYS HAD SHOWED US WAS, THAT'S WHERE WE START GETTING THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN.

>> ALONG THE WAY, INFORMATION'S BEING PUSHED OUT AND YOU KNOW THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS WELL.

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>> I THINK TOO, TALK ABOUT THE OUTCOMES TOO, BECAUSE ME MR. YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THE INTENT OF ALL OF THIS IS STILL TO BE A DISTRICT OR WHY YOU WOULD COME HERE EVEN THOUGH THESE CHALLENGES ARE BEFORE US, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS AND ALSO THE HOW, HOW TO DO THAT WITH PEOPLE, EVERYBODY KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO OPTION.

THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO AND HOW DO WE DO IT WITH FIDELI THINK WE LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS THROUGH LAST YEAR IN THE PROCESS OF HOW TO DO THAT BETTER.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR FOR IT IN THESE CONVERSATION IS, HOW DO WE DO IT? HOW DO WE ENGAGE? THE LAST QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU BECAUSE YOU PUT IT TO THE FORE OF YOU HERE, SAYING THAT YOU'RE THE ONES THAT ARE LEADING THIS WORK.

BUT THE CAPACITY PIECE, THAT'S THE OTHER THING TOO IN THESE TIMELINES BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO SEE THE LIST, BUT AS WE GET INTO THE TRANSITION FROM THIS YEAR GOING TO NEXT YEAR, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SOME THINGS MAY COME UP.

I THINK THE LEGISLATIVE PIECE IS THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME MOST BECAUSE WHEN THEY HAVEN'T MADE DECISIONS, AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE, IT CAN IMPACT SOME OF THIS IN TERMS OF HOW QUICKLY WE DO IT AND HOW WELL WE DO IT AS WELL.

>> I ONLY CAUGHT PART OF THE END OF YOUR COMMENTS WHEN I CAME BACK FROM THE REST ROOM LEE, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PLAYING IN MY MIND SINCE LAST FALL IS, WE WENT INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN THE FALL WITH WHAT WE KNEW WHEN THE CONVERSATIONS STARTED.

WHAT TOWARDS THE END OF THE SUMMER, I'LL POINT TO ENROLLMENT SPECIFICALLY.

WE ELIMINATED SOME THINGS.

WE'VE DEBRIEFED WHAT WE THINK WORKED ON THE PROCESS AND WHAT DIDN'T, BUT WE MADE THE DECISIONS THE BEST WE COULD WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME.

THE INFORMATION RIGHT NOW IS CHANGING SO QUICKLY.

LIKE IF WE HAD HAD THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT WE HAD RIGHT BEFORE WE VOTED, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS MAY HAVE LOOKED DIFFERENT.

THE DECISIONS MAY HAVE LOOKED DIFFERENT.

I THINK EVERYTHING, FUNDING, ENROLLMENT, BIRTH RATES, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE EVOLVING AND ALL COMING TOGETHER SO QUICKLY THAT WHILE IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD MAKE DECISIONS AND PAUSE AND CATCH OUR BREATHS AND ADJUST TO THE NEW NORMAL BEFORE WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

I THINK THINGS ARE JUST HAPPENING SO RAPIDLY THAT NO MATTER WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE WHEN WE'RE HAVING ONE CONVERSATION, THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND US ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING SO FAST THAT I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE AFFORDED THE LUXURY OF HITTING PAUSE AND SETTLING AS MUCH AS MAYBE WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO BEFORE BEFORE WE'RE BEING FACED WITH DIFFICULT DECISIONS AGAIN.

I THINK IT COULD BE EVEN WORSE THAN THIS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE.

IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE IN SUCH A RAPIDLY EVOLVING TIME WITH ALL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE FRAMEWORK EVOLVING TO THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD INTEND OR LIKE TO DO AND WE'D LIKE TO CATCH OUR BREATH.

I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE AFFORDED THAT LUXURY.

AS EVIDENCED, WE THOUGHT THE DEFICIT WAS GOING TO BE 8.6 WHEN WE STARTED THE BUDGET IN PASS AND WE'RE 4 MILLION,.

DEEPER IN THE HOLE THAN WE WERE THROUGH.

NO BAD ACTIONS OF OUR OWN, JUST BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCE.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE AND SOMEBODY POINTED OUT TO ME AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE LEGISLATURE FOR $1,300 PER STUDENT.

THAT'S A NOVEMBER NUMBER.

SINCE THEN INFLATION HAS CHANGED SO MUCH, WE REALLY NEEDED TO BE CLOSER TO $1,700 TO MAKE US WHOLE.

I THINK THAT'S JUST THE REALITY THAT WE'RE LIVING IN, WHICH MAKES CONVERSATIONS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT, MAYBE CYCLE THROUGH FASTER BECAUSE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE CYCLING THROUGH FASTER AROUND US.

>> WELL, I THINK IT'S EASIER FOR US TO PIVOT AND CHANGE OUR MIND ON SOMETHING TO GO BACK ON IT AND SAY NO, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS.

THEN TO SAY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS AND TO YOUR POINT, THE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE, AND THEN WE GOT TO TRY TO RAMP UP IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

I THINK THAT, WE KNOW IS NEXT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.

I THINK WHEN WE START PREMATURELY SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

WE DON'T LIKE THIS. IT'S TOUGH, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GET THE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION, AND IT'S CHANGING.

>> I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING A BETTER JOB HAVING HARDER CONVERSATIONS MORE QUICKLY AND MORE IN DEPTH.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

THIS IS BOLD STUFF TO PUT IN FRONT OF US AND IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'LL TELL YOU AT THE CRC MEETING, WHEN THE CHARTS WERE UP THERE AND PEOPLE WERE GOING AROUND WITH THEIR STICKERS,

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AND ONE OF THE CHARTS WAS CLOSING TWO SCHOOLS IN 26 27.

I THOUGHT, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL PROBABLY VOTE FOR CLOSING ONE NOW THAT WE KNOW DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAN WE DID WHEN WE MADE LAST FALL'S DECISION.

BUT THERE WAS ALMOST NO HESITATION IN THE ROOM ABOUT CLOSING TWO, AND I, FRANKLY, WAS COMPLETELY BLOWN AWAY.

THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT I WAS LIKE, I THOUGHT, MAYBE WITH SOME EDUCATION OR MAYBE WITH BRINGING THE COMMUNITY ALONG.

BUT THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT LAST FALL IS WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITIES ATTENTION, AND WE ARE BRINGING PEOPLE ALONG ON THE JOURNEY IN A BETTER WAY THAN MAYBE WE KNEW HOW TO BEFORE.

FOR ME, THAT WAS REALLY EVIDENCED WITH HOW QUICKLY THERE WAS CONSENSUS ON SOME VERY DIFFICULT TOPICS I THOUGHT AT THAT LAST CIRC MEETING.

THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE NUMBERS FOR ELEMENTARY, THAT CAPACITY GOING BACK WHEN WE FIRST IN 2008 IS HIGHER THAN THEN, AND WE'VE SEEN OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME THAT THE ELEMENTARY HAS NOT REALLY GROWN AT ALL, IT HAS BEEN VERY FLAT FOR THE MOST PART.

WHEN YOU SEE THAT AND YOU SEE THE FUTURE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT BACK THEN AND HAS NOT MATERIALIZED AT ALL IS CYPRUS WATERS.

CYPRUS WATERS, EVEN WITH THE RESTRICTIONS, YOU THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD STILL GET A HIGHER YIELD.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT YIELD AT ALL.

THE OTHER THING THAT HAS HAPPENED, WHICH HAS BEEN MORE IRONIC IS THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

FOR OUR DISTRICT, THE YIELD HAS NOT BEEN THERE AT ALL.

YOU SEE WE'VE HAD A HIGHER YIELD OF STUDENTS AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL OVER EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND THAT'S THE REPUTATION OF THE DISTRICT, BUT THE ELEMENTARY HAS NEVER MATERIALIZED AT ALL CLOSE TO WHAT WE THOUGHT.

EVEN WHEN THE SOUTH GROUP, OBVIOUSLY WE PUT SCHOOLS DOWN THERE THAT WE HADN'T HAD, BUT EVEN THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT BECAUSE OF THE METROPLEX AREA AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO.

I THINK THOSE THINGS STAND OUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND LOOKING AT OLD CHARTS, I CAN SHOW THEM TO YOU AND YOU'RE LIKE HAD NOT CHANGED MUCH AT ALL.

I'M NOT SURPRISED TO SEE THAT.

WHEN YOU SEE, BASICALLY THREE SCHOOL LEVELS THAT YOU COULD PUT OUT BASED ON THE CAPACITY.

IT'S JUST INEVITABLE.

>> I AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT DECISIONS ARE LEFT TO BE MADE.

WHAT ARE THE DECISIONS, THE HARD DECISIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WHICH SCHOOLS TO CLOSE? ARE WE ALREADY SAYING HAVE WE MADE THE DECISION THAT YES, WE'RE ACCEPTING ALL OF THESE AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THAT SEEMS PRETTY LARGE TO ME.

WHAT ARE THE DECISIONS LEFT TO BE MADE? WE'VE HAD STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE'VE HAD CRC RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT IS THE SCHOOL BOARD'S ROLE IN THIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS?

>> I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINANCIAL WE'RE REQUIRED FINANCIALLY.

THAT'S A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

ALSO, WE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE AN ACADEMIC RESPONSIBILITY OUTCOMES.

THAT IS ANOTHER MEASUREMENT AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEGISLATIVE CYCLE, THEY CONTINUE TO PUT MORE AND MORE RESPONSIBILITY ON BOARDS, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T DO THAT FROM DAY TO DAY, BUT THEY'RE HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT, I THINK THOSE CONVERSATIONS, T IS UP TO HAVE THAT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YES, PHYSICALLY, YES, SHOULD WE DO THIS? OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ACADEMIC THINGS WE HAVE TO.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CCMR. WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

WE HAVE TO DO THOSE THINGS.

I JUST WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? DOES SCHOOL LOOK THE SAME AS IT DID? AND 2019 OR 2022, IT'S GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT.

BUT THE OUTCOMES THAT WE EXPECT NEED TO LOOK ABOUT LOOK THE SAME, IF NOT BETTER.

I THINK THAT'S THE CHART THAT WE DO HAVE, AND THE STAFF IS PROVIDING US THAT CAPACITY TO SAY, THIS IS HOW WE CAN MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN.

NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL ON WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.

BUT I THINK BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE, WE JUST HAVE TO LEAN IN AND GET THE DATA ASK THE QUESTIONS AND MAKE THE DECISIONS.

BUT I THINK WE'RE AT A PLACE BECAUSE OF OUR EXPERIENCE AS A BOARD, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AND HAVE TO DO, AND EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T WANT TO DO THEM BECAUSE IT MAKES THINGS LOOK DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK WE'RE AT THAT PLACE.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I THINK THIS IS A PLAN THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT FORTH IN THE BUCKETS OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE SEQUENCE OF DOING THEM THAT WOULD GET US TO A BALANCED BUDGET, WHICH IS OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AS THE OVERSEERS OF THE DISTRICT.

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BUT TO MARCH DOWN THIS PLAN, IT HAS TO COME TO LIKE A VOTE FOR US, RIGHT TO ENACT THE PLAN.

BUT NOW IT'S JUST, WELL, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT'S BEING PRESENTED, WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT, WE'RE GOING TO GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ABOUT IT, WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE DETAILED IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES AND PLANS.

THOSE ARE THE TIMES WE ASK THE QUESTIONS AND FIGURE OUT, IS THIS SHAPING UP TO WHAT WE EXPECTED IT TO BE? THEN ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO DECIDE THE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, IS THAT ARE WE OKAY WITH IT TO DO? I THINK THE LARGER POINT IS, IF YOU DON'T DO THESE THINGS, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO? BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT, WE'RE IN A FINANCIAL HOLE THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.

THAT IS, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES HERE, IS LIKE WE'RE TRYING WE'RE TRYING TO MARCH DOWN THIS THING AND FIGURE IT OUT AND, FIND OUT RESOURCES.

I LIKE EVERYBODY HERE IS WORKING THROUGH IT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THIS PLACE AND THE PLAN IS HAPPENING, BUT THERE'S DETAILS OF THE PLAN THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

THEN YOU'D HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO.

>> BUT I THINK TOO, WE STILL HAVE THE COMPONENT OF THE OUTCOMES.

WHAT YOU DO, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOROUGHLY IN THIS PROCESS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE GET BACK TO ONCE AGAIN, THIS TIMELINE HELPS TO EXPLAIN THAT.

BECAUSE FOR EVERY ACTION, THERE'S A REACTION THERE IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCES, BUT ALSO ORGANIZATIONAL CONSEQUENCES IN TERMS OF DELIVERY OF THE SERVICE.

>> NO WAY SAYING THAT, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DECIDING TO DO ANY OF THIS STUFF.

THERE'S FEEDBACK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

THERE IS JUDGMENT ON TERMS OF, IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT OUTCOMES? IS THIS THE BEST FOR OUR STUDENTS AND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE? IT IS ALSO BEST FOR THE FINANCES THAT WE'RE DOING AND THEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION AFTER WE COLLECT ALL INFORMATION.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, AT LEAST MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ASK OF US TONIGHT IS LIKE, THERE ARE BUCKETS OF THINGS THAT THEY ARE EXPLORING.

IF THIS IS NOT THIS BUCKET, IT'S GOT TO BE ANOTHER BUCKET OR ANOTHER BUCKETS GOT TO BE BIGGER.

THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN NOW.

IF THERE IS A DEVIATION TO THAT STRATEGY, THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT NOW SO THAT THEY CAN ADJUST THAT AND SEARCH THAT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> I THINK IT'S TO WHAT BOTH OF YOU GUYS WERE SAYING IT'S OUR ROLE IS THE VALIDATION PROCESS.

LIKE, RECEIVED THE RECOMMENDATION.

WE'VE ASKED FOR THESE. WE WE ASKED FOR WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP AND AND TO YOUR POINT AT THE BEGINNING, WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, SHOW US THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, SHOW US A VERY DETAILED.

WE'RE GETTING RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY AS A BOARD ASKED FOR.

I THINK OUR ROLE NOW IS, WE WERE RECEIVING INFORMATION.

SEEK THE DATA, VALIDATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION YET, YEA OR NAY.

I THINK IT'S WHERE WE FALL IN ON IT.

THAT'S WHERE I THINK WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS GETS US TO THAT POINT.

TO JOE'S, I THINK, TO YOUR THOUGHT, IT'S WE CAN'T SPEND THREE, FOUR MONTHS GOING DOWN ONE PATH TO YANK THE CHAIN BACK AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND SAY, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

THEN THAT'S A BUNCH OF WASTED TIME AND SPINNING WILLS ON A ALREADY OVERSTRETCHED STAFF AS WELL.

I THINK IT'S JUST MAKING SURE FOR US, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE GIVING CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS SO THAT WHAT WE GET IN A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS, WE'RE NOT JUST RIPPING IT UP AND THROWING IT BACK, SAY NO, THAT'S NOT IT.

>> TO SECOND BEFORE YOU COMMENT, THAT, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WAS SURPRISING OUT OF THE SER COMMITTEE AS WELL.

LIKE THE SPEED AT WHICH THEY DECIDED THINGS AND ALSO THE SENTIMENT THAT JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WHAT THE PLAN IS.

THERE NOT KNOWING WHAT THE PLAN IS AND BEING IN LIMBO CREATES A LOT MORE TURN NOT ONLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT FOR OUR TEACHERS IN TERMS OF THEIR PLANNING AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

THAT'S ANOTHER DRIVING FACTOR HERE.

>> I AGREE COMPLETELY AND I WOULD APPLAUD STAFF FOR GIVING US EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR, WITHOUT A DOUBT.

YES. I APPLAUD THAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

I THINK ALL OF US.

IS JUST WHEN I LOOK AT THAT LIST, THE ONLY THE TOP 2 NEED BOARD APPROVAL.

YOU CAN ELIMINATE SHUTTLES RIGHT NOW OR WE DON'T NEED TO WEIGH IN HONESTLY ON THAT.

THE SECONDARY SCHEDULE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

FIGURE THAT PART OUT. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A LIMITED BANDWIDTH.

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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED.

WE HAVE A RETIRING SUPERINTENDENT.

>> I KNOW OUR BANDWIDTH IN ADDITION TO EVERYONE ELSE IS ALSO LIMITED.

WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER.

IF WHAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER IS THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLOSURES, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT OR NOT, AND I'M BLINKING NOW ON WHAT THE SECOND HUGE ONE IS.

BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT, THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT, WE HAVE TO FOCUS IN ON IT.

BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE TWO SCHOOLS IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION I'M GOING TO NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION WITH FIDELITY.

I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE NARROWING DOWN WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THAT ESSENTIAL QUESTION, LIKE ANY EXCELLENT EDUCATOR WOULD ASK, WHAT IS OUR DESIRED OUTCOME FROM TONIGHT? WHAT DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE INFLUENCE ON? WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY DECIDING? IF NEWTECH IS A PIECE OF THAT, THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT IT, IF IT'S NOT, AND WE JUST NEED TO VALIDATE AND ASK QUESTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT TOO BECAUSE.

AS WE ALL KNOW, LAST YEAR WAS BRUTAL FOR ALL OF US EMOTIONALLY. I'M NOT DOING THAT AGAIN.

AND SO I WANT TO FOCUS IN ON.

AND AGAIN, WE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, 100%. I GET YOU.

WE HAVE AN AMAZING CFO, DIANA SIRCAR, THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND YOU HAVE BEEN BEATING THIS DRUM FOR YEARS. I KNOW YOU HAVE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT URGENCY THAT WE HAVE TO.

WHEN WE SAY MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS, NOT HAVING SHUTTLES OR HAVING PEOPLE PAY FOR SHUTTLES.

THAT'S NOT A TOUGH DECISION FOR ME.

DECIDING WHICH ELEMENTARY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THAT'S A TOUGH DECISION FOR ME.

SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE AND REFRAIN THAT.

>> OH, MY KIDS TAKE BATH.

>> I DON'T WANT TO, I'M SORRY.

SOME OF US CLOSED OUR KIDS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

>> AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS.

>> THINGS HAPPENING.

>> WE'RE ALL FEELING THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PITY PARTY WHERE WE CAN COMPARE PAIN. I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THAT.

I PROMISE YOU, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A HUNGER GAMES OF ALL THAT.

I THINK MY BIG IDEA IS, I WANT TO PUT MY FOCUS AND TIME AND ENERGY ON THE DECISION MAKING THAT YOU NEED US TO DO AND THEN ACTUALLY DO THAT VERY WELL.

THAT IS MY QUESTION OF, WHAT DECISIONS DO YOU NEED US TO MEAN? WHAT DOES OUR COMMUNITY NEED TO WEIGH IN ON? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO RAMP THE COMMUNITY UP ON SOMETHING THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NOT AN INFLECTION POINT.

THE DECISIONS BEEN MADE.

THAT'S WHERE I AM.

>> I'D LIKE TO JUST ADD ON TO THAT.

THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DECIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO PROACTIVELY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE IT, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET WHEN THE FEEDBACK LOOP IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE THINGS THAT WE AREN'T DECIDING.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING, THAT THINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO WEIGH IN.

BUT AT LEAST THERE IS A CHECKPOINTS ALONG THE WAY THAT WE CAN AT LEAST KNOW, HOW IS THAT WORKING? AND ARE THOSE DECISIONS ARE THOSE ALIGNED WITH BEING FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE? YES, BUT WITH OUR CORE VALUES OR WITH KEEPING THE HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION THAT WE REAL VALUE HERE.

SO, YES, OUR INTENTIONS ARE KEEPING IT THAT WAY, BUT SOME CHECKPOINTS ALONG THE WAY FOR US TO MEASURE THAT OR BE IN THE NULL.

>> AND WE JUST NEED TO HOLD OURSELF ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T DISAGREE.

IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW AND WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION?

>> YES.

>> LET'S TAKE IT OFF OUR PLATE, BUT LET'S ALSO HOLD OURSELF ACCOUNTABLE TO WHEN THOSE DECISIONS DO GET MADE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOSING OUR MARBLES OR OTHER STUFF.

>> I THINK THAT'S ABOUT THE PROACTIVELY TELLING US WHAT'S GOING TO BE MEASURED, WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE MEASURED.

WE ALL HAVE AGREED INFORMALLY NO SURPRISES, IF EVER THAT APPLIED, WE SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING STAFF AND STAFF SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING US.

AND IN YOUR TRANSITION, THERE'S EVEN MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IN THE NORMAL STUFF.

SO WITH US DOING BIG THINGS, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE DOUBLY COMMITTED TO THAT.

>> AS WE TOUCH ON, I WON'T BE HERE NEXT MEETING.

I WANTED TO ASK HERE IN TERMS OF THE DRAFT SCHEDULE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE LOOK AT THE TIMING.

YOU SEE THAT SEPTEMBER COMMUNITY PRESENTATION, AND FEEDBACK, BUT THEN 29TH BOARD MEETING.

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WE DON'T HAVE WORKSHOP TIME IN BETWEEN THERE.

I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT THERE FOR YOU ALL THINKING ABOUT IT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD MORE OF THOSE IN THERE.

BUT NOT NECESSARILY IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

IF WE JUST NEED MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE DECISIONS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, IF WE GET THAT INFORMATION, IF WE'RE GOING TO SET UP TIME TO DISCUSS THEM AS A GROUP BEFORE, NOT NECESSARILY TAKE MORE PRESENTATIONS, BUT HEY, THIS IS THE DATA WE GOT, HOW ARE WE MAKING THE DECISION? I WON'T BE HERE, BUT I JUST THOUGHT MY TWO SENSE IS WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE MORE OF THOSE IN BETWEEN THERE.

SO AS YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT, THAT'S MY TWO SENSE.

WE PROBABLY NEED A COUPLE OF THOSE OR AT LEAST ONE.

>> I THINK YOU BUILD OFF THE COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU NEED.

I DON'T KNOW, JUST TO PUT THEM IN THERE, YOU COULD CREATE SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE AND THE CLARITY OF THE INFORMATION THAT COMES FROM THE WORKSHOPS.

BUT I FOLLOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, TO NOT BOX YOUR SALES IN AND NOT HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

BUT I THINK, PIVOTING OFF WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT TIME FRAME MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THOSE IN IF WE NEED THEM.

>> I WILL SAY LAST YEAR, WE HAD A PROBLEM ADDING STUFF IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE WE HAVE TASTASB.

AND I DO KNOW WE GET JAMMED UP WITH TASTASB AND A BOARD MEETING ALL BEING WITHIN A WEEK OF EACH OTHER.

SO IF WE THINK WE NEED A WORKSHOP, I WOULD SAY, IF YOU THINK YOU NEED WE NEED ONE, I WOULD PROBABLY ADD THE DATES NOW.

SO IT'S ON OUR CALENDAR.

GETTING A REAL TIME IN AUGUST IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.

>> AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS ARE GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND TALKING TO THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY NEED, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER TIME FOR US TO TALK.

THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT MORE, AND MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE LIKE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE IT, LET'S JUST SCHEDULE IT.

PUT ON BOOKS. IF WE DON'T NEED THEM, THEN WE DON'T HAVE.

>> I DO LIKE THAT MODEL OF HAVING IT AT THE TIME HELD FOR US, AND THEN IF WE DON'T NEED IT, WE PULL IT OFF AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO AT THE END.

I KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL CLOSURES AND BE BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME TO SEE A HEAT MAP OF WHERE OUR KIDS ARE.

I WANT TO KNOW WHERE DO OUR PRE K BABIES LIVE? WHERE DO OUR KINDER PEOPLE LIVE.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL REALIGNMENT, WHERE ARE OUR FOURTH, FIFTH? IF WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEMOGRAPHER CAN PROVIDE THAT, IF YOU ALL CAN PROVIDE THAT, IT WOULD BE CRAZY HELPFUL FOR ME TO SEE WHERE ARE OUR STUDENTS, WHAT AGES ARE THEY AND WHERE ARE THEY CLUSTERED.

THAT'S A PIECE OF INFORMATION I WOULD NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> I CAN ADD AN ITEM I WOULD LIKE FOR BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT FOR THE BOARD AND STAFF TO DISCUSS, IS IF WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE TWO MORE CAMPUSES.

WHAT'S OUR NEW PHILOSOPHY? IS OUR PHILOSOPHY STILL NEIGHBORHOOD CAMPUSES? IS OUR PHILOSOPHY SECURE THE OUTER BORDERS OF OUR PERIMETER? DO WE NEED TO MAKE A PHILOSOPHICAL SHIFT? AND IF SO, I'D LOVE FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND DO IT EYES WIDE OPEN BECAUSE THAT MAY ACTUALLY INFLUENCE CAMPUSES WE'D BE WILLING TO CONSIDER OR NOT CONSIDER BASED UPON WHAT THAT PHILOSOPHY IS AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY BEING DOWN? THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FROM WHERE WE STARTED A YEAR AGO.

THAT PHILOSOPHY, I THINK AT LEAST PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REVISITED OR REAFFIRMED IF NOT CHANGED.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> AND I STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF AROUND NEW TECH.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO EXPLORE THAT.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

I'LL JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD.

I WANT TO EXAMINE THAT MORE CLOSELY AS WELL.

>> YOU THINK, YOU GUYS?

>> I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO, LIKE I SAID, THE HILL I'LL DION.

WE ARE ABOUT SIX WEEKS OUT FROM THE JUNE BOARD MEETING WHERE COMPENSATION NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED, AND WE HAVEN'T.

TYPICALLY, AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR IANA AND I TO LOOK AT.

DO YOU HAVE AN APPETITE FOR A NUMBER OF SCENARIOS YOU'D WANT US TO DRAW UP OR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE TO BRING BACK, AND BE ABLE TO DISCUSS, KNOWING THAT THAT'S A LEGISLATIVE PIECE? THAT'S STILL BEING DISCUSSED AT THAT LEVEL.

BUT ANY DIRECTION YOU WANT US TO HEAD IS THE 3% THAT'S BEEN OUR GOLD STANDARD.

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MAYBE THE SCENARIO TO RUN AND ALLOW YOU GUYS TO ASK QUESTIONS FROM THERE, ALTHOUGH EACH PERCENTAGE IS ROUGHLY $1,000,000 WITH THE SIZE STAFF THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO SIT BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT IMPACTS THE NUMBERS PRESENTED TONIGHT.

>> I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED, GOING EARLIER IN THE CONVERSATION THAT 3% AND DOCTOR HUNT, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR THAT PEOPLE PLAYED CHICKEN A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT SINCE WE WERE OUT OF JULY 1ST, THAT INFORMATION MAY BUBBLE UP REAL QUICK IN THAT REGARD.

SO FOR ME, 3% WOULD BE AN APPLICABLE THING TO LOOK AT.

I MEAN, JUST NOT SAYING THAT.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT I THINK KNOWING THAT NUMBER AND BEING COMPETITIVE, ONCE AGAIN, TRYING TO RETAIN PEOPLE.

IF IT'S TIA YEAR, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYED OUT, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

SO WE NEED THIS.

>> RIGHT. AND I THINK THE HARD PIECE ABOUT TIA IS THOUGH EVERYBODY IN A TEACHING POSITION IS ELIGIBLE, NOT EVERYONE WILL RECEIVE A DESIGNATION.

IT'S NOT BUILT THAT WAY OR INTENDED THAT YOU'D REALLY EVER GET TO 100%.

YOU'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.

AND THEN, AGAIN, AS DOCTOR HUNT SAID, I LOVE IT BECAUSE IT IS OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

IT IS THE TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM WITH THE ROSTERS THAT ARE DOING THE GRADING THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.

THAT'S THE ONLY GROUP OF STAFF THAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.

NONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES, AS DOCTOR HUNT ONCE AGAIN, SAID, COUNSELORS, NURSES, LIBRARIANS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I LOVE THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION OF HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT A BLANKET FOR EVERYBODY.

>> AND DEFINITELY BECAUSE IN THE PRIOR CONVERSATIONS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL, NOT BEING THAT 100% COVERAGE IS THAT?

>> I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO SEE WHETHER THE HOUSE OR THE SENATE WITNESS BECAUSE THOSE BILLS ARE VERY DIFFERENT, AND HOW THEY WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

THEY BOTH PROVIDE FOR COMPENSATION INCREASES, BUT VERY DIFFERENTLY, ITSELF.

>> TRUE POINT.

>> I MEAN, THAT'S IT. THAT'S UP IN THE AIR, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, THREE IS WHAT WE'VE DONE.

NO SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE VARIABLES THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT AT LEAST KNOWING THAT IS A STARTING POINT AND THEN SAYING, WE'VE GOT TO DEVIATE BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THEN WE KNOW.

>> THANK YOU. IT'S LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TO DO THAT MUCH.

I'M WONDERING IS THAT GOING TO KEEP US STILL COMPETITIVELY.

>> I BELIEVE IT WILL BASED ON WHAT I KNOW FROM RECENT YEARS, AND AS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, THE DISTRICTS THAT WE COMPETE WITH THE MOST FOR STAFF LAND AT THAT AT TIMES A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

BUT IN GENERAL, IF WE CAN STAY CONSTANT WITH THAT, WE CONTINUE TO BE A LEADER IN THE METROPLEX AT ALL THE LEVELS, NOT JUST OUR STARTING SALARY, BUT AT FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, AND BEYOND.

WE ARE TYPICALLY, AS WE SHARE WITH YOU GUYS, IN THE TOP FIVE AND MOST CATEGORIES, DEFINITELY IN THE TOP 10 FOR THE DFW IN ALL CATEGORIES, AND THAT 3% HAS KEPT US THAT WAY FOR RECENT YEARS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, ON? SORRY, DANA.

>> JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I'VE HEARD TOO IS ALL OF WHAT WE'VE SAID THIS PLAN IS TO HELP TO FIX OUR FINANCIAL ISSUES.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE CHANGES.

WE KNOW THAT 10 YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

AND SO IT'S ALWAYS HARD TO GO BACKWARDS, OR TO TAKE THINGS AWAY.

BUT 10 YEARS AGO, WE'RE A TOP RATED DISTRICT NOW, AND SO THAT IS CERTAINLY OUR INTENTION IS TO KEEP THAT.

BUT IT MAY REQUIRE THOSE CHANGES.

AND I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE CONCENTRATING ON THE DECISIONS THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THAT LIST THAT WE NEED TO PUT, THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND BY COMMUNICATING WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

I THINK WE CAN COMMIT TO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TOO. THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, SHAW?

>> WELL, THANK YOU ALL AGAIN, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND TIME YOU PUT IN TO THIS AND ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH THE CIRC COMMITTEE AND THOSE MEETINGS THERE.

SO PAVE THAT I'M TRYING TO FIND MY AGENDA IS.

THAT WILL CLEAR WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT TO WORK ON.

WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL WE STUFF AND CLOSE. WE NEED TO GO BACK.

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THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING OUT.

LET US DO THAT EARLY ON.

FOR THAT, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN ONE FINAL MOTION.

>> MOVE ADJOURN.

>> I SECOND.

>> IS IT YOU, NICOLE?

>> I SECONDED. YES, SIR.

>> MOTION BY TRUSTEE HILL.

I SECOND BY TRUSTEE BEEN ADJOURN IN YOUR DISCUSSION.

HERE NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION PASSES 60, TIME IS 9:34.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.